Activate Your Energy: the iron, copper and magnesium connection with Dr. Talia Marcheggiani, ND 

Could you please share which brand of copper did you take ?! Appreciate it 🙏

Thank you for the testimonial. I took zinc and crashed, but copper alone isn't correcting the problem. However, I do have other stressors that might be crimping copper's impact. I need to focus there.

@@moniryousefian8782 You need to be topped off on retinol and magnesium in order to make sure your copper can be complexed into ceruloplasmin by the ATP7B "crane" that loads the copper atoms into the ceruloplasmin shuttle/activator. Otherwise, you can have reactive copper that oxidizes faster than toxic metallic iron! So, get those nutrients in line. High quality eggs from truly pastured chickens should be high in retinol. I have heard that the orange tint to a yolk is associated with higher retinol. Yellow yolks are supposedly depleted. I have not verified this. A natural form of copper is bee pollen, although it comes loaded with iron. I guess the idea is the copper is absorbed and the iron doesn't. Remember that copper absorbs with fat, so ingest the copper with a fatty drink or meal. A Rothschild recommended ingesting only copper distilled water. When I did this, my 0 PPM water turned into about 2 PPM water, and I suspect most of that was from the copper cooling tubes. In essence, he recommended micro-dosing copper throughout the day. My friend bought a kg of copper bisglycinate and shared an amount that might look like a bit less than a quarter ounce of weed in a baggy. Not that I know what that looks like -- my friend told me about it. Actually, I do know what it looks like, but have not been anywhere near the stuff in about 35 years, and have no desire to. He calculated how much distilled water to add to make the solution around two mg of copper per dropper drop. For me, that left a thick sediment at the bottom which required vigorous shaking, so I added distilled water and now get about 0.8 mg of copper. It still settles, but not as badly. I still shake it before use. Note, this is the amount of copper, not copper bisglycinate. That amount is obviously more, but I didn't bother to note the amount of glycine per drop. Again, get your retinol levels up and get your magnesium levels up.

@@moniryousefian8782 the best absorbed and effective Copper tablet supplement is Copper bisglyconate . Just 1 mg is enough if you are not taking zinc. For those who experience symptoms due to excessive zinc intake then 2 mg would be advised for around 4 weeks then just 1 mg for 4 weeks or longer if required but stopping zinc alone is enough to restore health its just that taking Copper after zinc has been stopped will help the process of healing a little faster...anyone taking zinc must always take Copper..zinc bisglyconate is most effective and eliminates any side effects..zinc at 15 mg with Copper at 2 mg to balance these minerals..bisglyconate is the preferred option 👌

@@Starchaser63 Thanks for quick reply, do you think after 4 weeks not taking zinc I can start taking zinc again or I still need to take both but different time of the day ( copper in the morning and zinc close to bed time ) I usually take 25 mg of zinc 3 times a week, is it too much ?!

How are you today? Is this still your opinion today?

How many PPM'S and what brand? Does copper with glycinate not digest with hours? I haven't seen any studies just going by popularity.

MOrley says only copper-bisglycinate is the only form we can properly absorb,

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Welcome! Glad to have you here!!

You can always slow down videos on RU-vid if someone is talking too fast for you to take in what they’re saying

Morley is a frustrated scammer I am sure

God made animals and mankind...."just as we exist today" mankind...has hybridized our food and animals over time...but we did NOT EVOLVE.. we were Created by....by what? Answer: God. Also now the "Big-Bang Theory has finally been debunked re entry due to the Hubble telescope. (Do some research here).

Hmmm🤔 Are you related perhaps to that awful godless human being Billy Boy Gates?

Beef liver, actually. 👍

What about chicken liver instead? I find it much more palatable. Does it contain enough copper to be a worthwhile substitute?

@@itzakpoelzig330 it doesn’t have the same nutrient profile. I take liver in capsules or cut raw liver (slightly sautéed on each side) in small pieces and swallow them to avoid the taste and texture

Thank you! I have been looking at it for a while and find it interesting.

​@@DrTaliaMarcheggianiND What do you think about mito copper, they say it's bio available?!

​@@DrTaliaMarcheggianiND I agree with N B about you looking into German New Medicine. May I also suggest looking into the work of Dr. Stefan Lanka, Dr. Sam Bailey, Dr. Tom Cowan, and Dr. Andrew Kaufman. Much of what we have been taught about cells, DNA, ATP, bacteria, and almost everything else in biology has been disproven or based purely on hypothesis and theory.

Non scientists here, just keep following these quality channels. Eventually you will absorb the basics.

Ask the oracle..

Hi! You can do serum copper testing, along with zinc, vitamin A and ceruloplasmin. I'm not sure how to test how much iron is in muscles. Most should be bound in myoglobin. Excess, unbound iron likely ends up in the liver, causing NAFLD. I wouldn't take a copper supplement unless severely deficient and need to get levels up fast. It is easy to get into toxic levels and start to deplete zinc and get into problems with excess estrogen. I would take a grass-fed beef liver supplement (or consume liver) to get copper. Even in that case it can be easy to overdo it. About 2-3 ounces a week should suffice.

If you've not been diagnosed with a Copper deficiency and your in good general health then you shouldn't be concerned with Copper. Fatigue can be for a variety of reasons. Zinc is well known for causing a low Copper situation which causes Fatigue and Anemia. If your concerned then just ask a physician for a general blood test to check your vitamin / mineral status 😊

I did blood work and my copper was 102, Zimc 78. Very low ferritin 12. Does it mean I’m very low on zinc and should supplement? I have high cortisol and insomnia. I assumed my high cortisol caused by this imbalance… any advice? Thank you

@@nataliewei5186 best advice is to stop all supplements and your body will naturally balance out any nutritional imbalances. Constantly using supplements can actually cause health issues due to excessive supplements or an imbalance of nutrients...after several months without supplements you should not need any but any supplementation should be off and on ..a quality balanced vitamin and mineral formula is ok as its a balanced supplement but never take continuous daily..your body will work best on a quality diet of real whole food..

Ferritin is iron storage so if it's low, then iron is low. Beef liver!

@@DrTaliaMarcheggianiND I thought ferritin was an intracellular storage protein - in the cell - and really should not be in the blood.

@@susanwelch9087 You might be correct, but I'm not 100% certain. I've never seen bloodwork where ferritin was zero, and I've never seen low ferritin in a healthy individual. This article is interesting and has more to say on the topic. therootcauseprotocol.com/iron-toxicity-post-55-ferritin-is-nothing-hemosiderin-is-everything/

@@DrTaliaMarcheggianiNDdidn’t Morley say there’s active vs not active version of ferritin?

have you tested your iodine? We're being fried by EMFs/wifi..worth a look...iodine is low in 99% of people and without it, you will have thyroid issues.

Good question! each ATP molecule is turned over 1000-1500 times a day, so we're generating our body weight in ATP, but only a fraction of our body weight at any given time is that ATP...

Zinc should be taken at the same time. If you really want absorption look into Colloidal. Drs neglect to tell you the truth about ionic supplements. Everyone who has copper deficiency should look into Colloidal Copper or any other colloidal. Copper supplements take forever and accumulate in our system to toxic levels because they have a positive charge.. Colloidal Copper is processed immediately and what the body doesn't need, you urinate out. Unlike Ionic Copper, it has a negative charge and doesn't attach itself to internal organs and accumulate into toxic levels. It is the best way to process Copper or any other trace mineral.

Do not take copper with zinc , they will deplete each other, take your copper at a diff time than your zinc.

Take them at least 2 hours apart for the body to have time to absorb both copper and zinc.

Carbon monoxide poisoning (where CO replaces oxygen in red blood cells) is different than oxidative stress, where extra free, unbound oxygen exceeds the capacity of antioxidants.

too much information for a pathetic 'short' that makes me lazy and therefore enables societal sloth oh which we need NO MORE.

glad to hear your iron levels are back to normal! I also had severe iron deficiency when I was vegetarian/vegan that took many years to correct.

Give blood every 3 months to reduce iron. Yes. Beef liver has retinol and copper to control the iron. When eating the meal with liver, avoid foods with citrus or vitamin C since they increase iron absorption. Eat those at a different meal.

Besides copper, what cured my backache was whole food B vitamins and under the tongue B12 and folate drops. This took about a year, but the pain is gone, and it was bad… Also, cut the sugar down as far as you can get it.

@@nataliewei5186 you could be zinc deficient! Copper excess can be tied into hormonal imbalance and dysbiosis. Definitely possible to have low Zinc and high copper.

I agree with you to some extent. He's not a practitioner, and some of his applications and connections are flawed, probably because he has a top-down approach that misses a lot of key factors that one would understand if looking from the bottom up (working directly with patients). I prefer individual treatment based on in-depth assessments of the person and always feel wary of "one-size-fits-all" protocols. There are always exceptions (more than rules with regard to the human body, in my experience). Thanks for sharing!

So what dosage would you recommend?

1 ounce of beef liver a day in capsule or whole food form.

There are a few connection points. The most obvious one is lack of menstruation (when one has previously menstruated monthly) can result in a build-up of iron to those who are susceptible.

usually about an ounce a day or 2-3 ounces a week. This is something like 4-6 capsules per day, depending on the company.

Beef capsules are ionic and have a positive charge. Colloidal Iron is the best supplement . If you really want absorption look into Colloidal. Drs neglect to tell you the truth about ionic supplements. Everyone who has a deficiency should look into Colloidal iron or any other colloidal. Ionic supplements take forever and accumulate in our system to toxic levels because they have a positive charge.. Colloidals are processed immediately and what the body doesn't need, you urinate out. Unlike Ionic capsules or any pill form, it has a negative charge and doesn't attach itself to internal organs and accumulate into toxic levels. It is the best way to process Iron or any other trace mineral like copper or zinc

And serotonin! It's a cofactor for tyrosine hydroxylase and tryptophan hydroxylase.

just beef liver!

Zinc should be taken at the same time. If you really want absorption look into Colloidal. Drs neglect to tell you the truth about ionic supplements. Everyone who has copper deficiency should look into Colloidal Copper or any other colloidal. Copper supplements take forever and accumulate in our system to toxic levels because they have a positive charge.. Colloidal Copper is processed immediately and what the body doesn't need, you urinate out. Unlike Ionic Copper, it has a negative charge and doesn't attach itself to internal organs and accumulate into toxic levels. It is the best way to process Copper or any other trace mineral.

check for H pylori, and also...high ferritin is high inflammation

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We can't digest grass.

@@DrTaliaMarcheggianiND but there are many vegan athletes that are thriving and doing well in their chosen sport, how are they doing it? i.e performing at such high energy performance on no animal products?

@@carolyn4407 Michael Phelps has been known to eat pizza, pasta and energy drinks for dinner 🤷‍♀ there are high-level athletes that follow "if it fits your macros." You can be a vegan athlete and live on refined carbs, protein powders, and nutritional supplements if that suits your ethics, I suppose, but it's not an optimal diet, in my opinion, and plant-based foods are generally not nutrient-dense enough for the average person who burns 2000-ish calories a day. Plant foods don't contain retinol, D3, creatine, carnitine, B12, significant amounts of copper, zinc, choline, bioavailable iron, bioavailable protein, saturated fat, vitamin K2, DHA or EPA. It's a massive and underrated challenge to receive optimal nutrition on a vegan diet and many people promoting this way of eating are either uninformed or not honest about this fact, sadly.

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I don't usually recommend iron supplements anymore, except in extreme cases! Beef Liver for the iron metabolism components.

@@DrTaliaMarcheggianiND will chicken or veal liver also work?

@@ilnino3422 not sure about veal, it must be essentially the same, but chicken has a different nutrient profile.

Interesting. What about beef liver capsules?

If you really want absorption look into Colloidal. Drs neglect to tell you the truth about ionic supplements. Everyone who has copper deficiency should look into Colloidal Copper or any other colloidal. Copper supplements take forever and accumulate in our system to toxic levels because they have a positive charge.. Colloidal Copper is processed immediately and what the body doesn't need, you urinate out. Unlike Ionic Copper, it has a negative charge and doesn't attach itself to internal organs and accumulate into toxic levels. It is the best way to process Copper or any other trace mineral.

No, it's not bad for us, but many people supplement with only alpha-tocopherol. The key is mixed tocopherols. Choosing the right supplement is essential.

It only causes cancer...no big deal....research it.''Several studies show that a lower vitamin E nutritional status is associated with an increased risk of certain cancers ''...National Institute of Health.Gov

I'm 6 and 4 - mold toxic ....they eat iron

Yes, look to nature. You can fight natural law, but natural law is undefeated. Eat organ meats from grass fed animals. I never ate organ meats for over 50 years... now they are pretty much all I eat. Start with heart and Rosita's cod liver oil. The heart has a tone of copper and the Rosita's provides a ton of retinol. Get some sun to break down the retinol into retinoic acid. One caveat -- this is one root cause of at least two. Acidosis will shut down the body's acid producing energy systems. One can eat an acidic Root Cause Protocol. I ate mostly dairy for three or four decades. The #1 acidic food is dairy. My sweat didn't budge the 4.5 pH strip... so 4.5 pH is a best case scenario for my interstitial fluids. This is bad. This was after 3 years of an aggressive RPC. The key elements of the RPC are alkaline, but the secondary elements can be quite acidic. I recommend synthesizing the following programs to try to Jumpstart your energy production: 1. Cure Your Fatigue by Morley Robbins 2. The pH Miracle by Dr. Robert O. Young 3. The Soy Zone Diet by Dr. Barry Sears. #1 addresses the motors and catalytic converters of the cells. #2 and #3 address the room ventilation into which the engines exhaust. Once acidosis sets in, the body has to shut down energy production or the acidosis will kill the person sooner rather than later.

Just eat organ meats for copper. Pure Encapsulation has a copper supplement.. Rosita's Cod Liver Oil provides retinol. Chop the liver and put in a curry -- YT "vegan skeptic rainbow curry." Acidosis plays a role, too. Eat alkaline + RPC + Zone Diet.

I typically wouldn't recommend straight copper. Maybe a zinc-copper supplement for vegans/veg but beef liver is where it's at!

@@DrTaliaMarcheggianiND There is a historical context to "copper toxicity" that most don't know. The zinc is supposed to prevent this copper toxicity. Taking zinc with copper effectively nullifies the copper's ability to become functional. This is akin to taking calcium and magnesium supplements where the calcium effectively blocks magnesium absorption. In essence, it is 9nly a calcium supplement. On to the little known historical facts. 1. The Royal and Bank8ng Families refer to themselves as "Blue Bloods." They literally named themselves this and use it as differentiator. They know how important ceruloplasmin-boujd copper is! Ceruloplasmin translates to "blue blood." Of course it does. 2. Ceruloplasmin-bound copper was injected into 30 schizophrenics in the late 1950's. One shot of it and 13 had complete and total remission. They were no longer schizophrenic. Another 13 showed significant improvement. What would a second shot have done? We don't know. Injecting Cp-Cu into humans was made illegal thereafter. No zinc was injected. They also dosed rhesus mokeys with LSD and ended their high with shots of Cp-Cu. 3. Dr. Carl Pfeiffer was instrumental in covering up the research, above. He ostensibly studied schizophrenia, and he not only covered up the cure for it, he demonized the cure for it -- Cp-Cu. The Blue Bloods have benefited a lot from this deception. 4. Pfeiffer did experiments on children with the CIA and MK-Ultra, and word is some of these children were never seen again. 5. Copper in the body is not even a meaningful term. There is Cp-bound copper which can end schizophrenia with a single shot... the absence of this form is obviously toxic, no matter what a CIA and MK Ultra operative would have you believe. Then there is the copper not bound to Cp. High levels of this copper can indeed be toxic! The best lies are packaged with some truth! 6. High levels of non-Cp-bound copper means that a person's ability to recycle iron has been compromised. Cp-Cu acts as ferroxidase which allows iron recycling.. If Cp-unbound copper is high, Cp-Cu will be low. IOW, if one has high non-Cp copper then their iron levels in their tissues will be high. 7. No copper is added to the foold supply. It is depleted. Copper can come in through birth control and water supplies. Food sources of copper are best. The copper comes from the grass... copper chelators come with GMO feed. 8. Metallic iron filings where added to the foold supply in 1941. The doses in the foold have been found to be much higher than on the label... maybe twice as high. There is 60x more iron in a healthy body than copper. 9. Focusing on copper while ignoring iron is irrational... but promoted by a CIA affiliated MK Ultra "doctor" such that the focus demonized the Cu-re and covered for what we really ought to Fe-ar... the iron. 10. Why do the Blue Bloods want to mix iron with humanity and demonize and deplete what they hold so precious for themselves? Read Daniel 2:43-44. They Money Power Royals and Blue Bloods believe God chose them to finance Biblical prophecy upon the masses, including mixing iron with humanity, and they believe their reward is to set up their kingdom over Earth as God's "most fit" creation. So they paid Pfeiffer to misdirect away from iron toxicity and put the spotlight on copper to demonize the only potential solution as the problem! It is a genius psy-op and has worked very well. 11. There is nuance to copper status. Cp-Cu copper is the gold standard. Non-Cp-Cu can be a problem. One has to know how to promote the best Cp-Cu synthesis environment in their body... and known what inhibits its formation to avoid those inhibitors. 12. Livers can be so toxic with heavy metals that zinc can be used to detox the liver. This worked for a very sick friend of mine. I took zinc due to a high Na/K hair ratio, it killed my motivation and energy (straw that broke camel's back -- lots of stressor in my life), and I took zinc well beyond the Na/K stop point. I should have stopped at 2.5, but went down to at least 1.8... and that's an average so I was actually lower. Interestingly, my Na/K dropped in a very linear fashion... it was basically a straight line for well over a year, maybe two. 13. One either understands the nuances of the applied biochemical natural law or one will invariably develop principles that don't make sense -- especially when promoted by CIA operatives to experiment on and disappear orphans. 14. Truth is far stranger than fiction. In the movie Lucy, the superpower injection fluid was ceruloplasmin colored. The Blue Bloods ultimately financed that movie... to mock us, perhaps? In the movie Spectral, it was metallic iron filings that crippled the spirits of those trapped entities and sucked away all their energy. Again... is it more mockery deployed at the unfit eating their energy siphoning iron filings while watching the movie? Only the fit survive, so if the masses aren't fit enough to "get a clue" when depicted on the big screen, the Blue Bloods believe we defy natural law and deserve to not survive like "the fit."

@@DrTaliaMarcheggianiND Beef live it shall be then! (though not without a period of stomach churning trepidation).

Therapeutic phlebotomy is the term you’re looking for.

They are different molecules, different in their actions and bioavailability. We convert B-carotene to retinol at a sometimes 28:1 ratio (depending on genetic factors, the nutritional status of the person, and factors present in food). They are certainly not interchangeable and don't convert at a 1:1 ratio like babies and adults, and some people are very poor converters and cannot rely on B-carotene for their source of retinol.

@@DrTaliaMarcheggianiND It's got a bottleneck for a reason. You do NOT want too much retinol. It converts to retinoic acids. Accutane is a prime example of a retinoic acid. Trisenox/tretinoin, a chemotherapeutic agent, another example of a retinoic acid. You do not want excesses of either. You will get them by supplementing retinol in fish oil.

it's a necessary element for life but can be toxic. best to take it in food: beef liver, rather than synthetic.

@@DrTaliaMarcheggianiND thank you for this talk. Just 3oz of cooked beef liver has 10mg of copper along with 400+% of vitamin A so for me I indulge 2x/month. Dessicated liver supps *UnDeffated though seems to hit sweet spot 3g has .6mg/cu, 2.5mg heme iron, 5mcg B12,

​@@runzizationwow, that's a lot! I'm working on making liverwurst. Taking time to watch different recipe videos. Wanna get it right cuz I hate eating it.

Drs neglect to tell you the truth about ionic supplements. Everyone who has copper deficiency should look into Colloidal Copper or any other colloidal. Copper supplements take forever and accumulate in our system to toxic levels because they have a positive charge.. Colloidal Copper is processed immediately and what the body doesn't need, you urinate out. Unlike Ionic Copper, it has a negative charge and doesn't attach itself to internal organs and accumulate into toxic levels. It is the best way to process Copper or any other trace mineral.

for some of them, that might be the reason. no processed food, for others it's a fasting mimicking diet, others it's an elimination diet, and depending on how you do it, can be a keto diet. depends on the person, the style of carnivore and if fruits, or some veggies are added.

I got increasingly worse fatigue on Keto, then Carnivore. turned out to be magnesium deficiency which is very low on a carnivore diet. Magnesium Glycinate sorted the issue

I'm healing on the Carnivore diet, but my energy levels are still not where I'd like them all the time. I was clued into wearing copper jewelry at about the same time as starting diet. The arthritic joints on my hand have almost healed to baseline, with this combo. I totally don't care if any of it is Placebo, but I am former nurse and don't believe that's the case. I've been trying to utilize sunlight grounding red light, taking electrolyte and mineral drops in my water. Still trying to rid myself of night leg cramps, and having to wake to urinate. I got as far as ordering copper drops and caps, but really wasn't sure how much to aim for? And Damn, didn't realize how important copper was, been using magnesium for a while and thought Zinc was the miracle for immunity etc, 🤦‍♀️also make my own dessicated liver caps, which I'm going to be better about taking. Thank you

My podcasts can be long--if you know anyone who would volunteer to break the audio and video into snippets... let me know!

It's okay, it's worth it to revisit when you have time later

I like long podcasts (for listening while driving) and shorter videos. But a long video is much better than no video!

I appreciate long format, in depth juicy lectures do much more than snippets imho.

you can also stop and come back - pause buttons, etc. I have brain damage, so I need to do that. I'd never say something that is free education from a darling teacher, is "too long," I'm grateful and do what I have to do :)

baha if you think I'm long-winded, read the book I'm reviewing! 😂 ☮ much love to Morley, though.

More more! Bravo! Listened to every word. Copper!

@@DrTaliaMarcheggianiND don't pay attention to detractors. It was an a amazing presentation

Thank you dr Talia for an eye opening presentation. It so happened I've been eating 200 grams liver daily for the past 6 months, together with bone broth to a heal shoulder injury. Was gonna do it for a month only fearing vitamin a, iron overload. But I was getting better and experiencing no sides, so I continued. My energy level has been really good. I didn't realize the power of copper and iron in beef liver. Now I know. Thank you. Keep it up.

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a mixed tocopherol and tocotrienol-- New Roots E8 or AOR vitamin e.

Any liver gotta be good for ya. But beef and... (runinant?) animals I think have the best liver