AD-1 Amp Dyno Soundstream Tarantula TXP1.18000D by Jones Subwoofer Solutions JSS 

Thanks for the support!

@Scott Miller you're right... Soundstream used to be very legit. They still make decent products here & there, just have to know what Soundstream products to buy these days. Sad they went downhill. Scott I have still have a Soundstream headunit in one of my cars that I installed back in 2015. It's been solid up until a few months back. When trying to use the CD Player it will make it shut off & back on & then switch between all the media sources. Very frustrating & on top of that the radio transmitter has gotten to where it will not pick up local radio stations. So I'm ordering a new headunit. I was going to get the Bluetooth Soundstream double din w/navigation, DVD player etc but I think I'm going to shy away from Soundstream this go around & spend the extra $ on Sony. I really like the new Sony ax7000 that has the high output onboard 45 rms x4 channel class d amp built in. It is cta-approved rated rms which should sound nice until I stop being lazy & motivate myself to install my 4 channel amp.

@@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 do they carry the same sony headunit in a single din. I need something like that because I keep frying my 6x9s evrytime I hook up a second amp to run highs or mids. I get a very dirty signal and ive tried just about everything except upgrading my stock alt because of some whining I get from just connecting the remote wire to second amp.

@@RomaVilla you are wanting a single din headunit that puts out 45 or 50 watts rms x 4 channels? If that's what you're asking then yes Sony also offers their "High Power" headunits in single din aswell, even make a couple of the High Powered units in Marine rated! Btw the Sony Ax7000 I mentioned in my previous comment is actually a single din chassis besides it having a full size almost 7 inch touchscreen. It didn't make much sense to me a touchscreen being single din because they a typically all double din chassis. But go look at pictures of the Sony ax7000 headunit so you'll understand how it is considered a true single din headunit then you'll see what I'm talking about. I'm thinking about pulling the trigger & going ahead to order it even though the ax7000 lacks some features that I think Sony truly should've included for their customers. Its chassis behind the touchscreen monitor is so small (like other single DIN headunits) & I think it is also slightly shorter in depth too which is why it does not have a DVD/CD Player.... The single din design sure seems like it will make it easier to fit in dashes where space is very limited. I know my vehicle does not have much space behind the dash so this unit should benefit me greatly as I have a lot of RCAs & other added wires, amp, dsp wires etc that I have to connect to the back of this headunit. Roma2189 Villa have a good day, hope my comment helped answer your questions or clear up confusion.

And early 2000’s

@@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 jo

Definitely a faulty amp I've been running one of these for 4yrs now even made the mistake of letting the positive sub wire hit the negative battery terminal sparks out both ends 😂 shut it down turned back on didn't skip a beat now I'm currently pushing 2 skar zvx 18d1 at 1ohm and it's crazy good love this amp

❤ absolutely not to mention his system had big issues. Dyno has it's thang and head unit issue 😢 how about you fix your shit before you destroy others stuff and bash it

That's true bro 😅😅😅

Exactly!!! That's an insane watts per dollar amp! I have one and have been running a couple of ID 500wrms subs until I get the 3 12 box done and I can't wait to run it at 1ohm.

And the size of a surf board 😆

And absolutely massive, too. We had a rack mount PA amp at a music shop where I worked when at college in the early '90s and it was 19" by 30" by 4" and need two people to carry it, and that was only 2 x 500w!

20 years ago it woulda burnt the car down these things are for small setups to talk big. Ive personally seen these amps at 1 ohm simply pop and solder the power to the negative i think they should be taken off the shelves

Ha! "Gained" a "Sub" 😂 Lol sorry, couldn't help it

@@MemphisMojo15s lol 😂 I knew someone would get it lol

NO.. its a 5500 watt RMS 1 ohm stable amp.. Thats an old school rating.. ... Wired at 1.. It will never see it. But it is safe to wire at 1 ohm all day...

@@whoman3466 So your definition of "old school" rating is lying about power output and shooting out flames at rated minimum load. I think you and I must have been using very different equipment back then.

@@hispls Incorrect. Even though they were more accurate on power.. No doubt.. But their ratings were based off wired loads. Not resistive loads... Measuring impedance rise wasn't a super common thing.. And virtually NOBODY outside of competition was .

@@whoman3466 So if you are an amp company, how do you rate your amps while figuring in "rise"?

@@hispls ohm will generally rise at best is 50 to 60% so 1.5 to 1.6 wired at 1 ohm. If you want to get technical. I've been going to competitions a long time and those some 1 ohm amps you could wired 1/2 ohm daily many you could not including name brands. And to see a true one ohm load you would have to be wired to point six to .67. And in some cases half ohm. Many of the old school amps would become incredibly hot running These ohms daily and shut off due to Thermal limitation. So often manufacturers would rate their amps on a 1 ohm resistive load because it's not a lie but the safe wiring rating would would be the wired ohm not the resistive ohm.

All you need is the Big 3 and High output Alternator and lithium Ion batteries and Soundstream will do the rest.

Lol yeah as if there isn't already enough amp dyno channels smfh. Jones really needs to step up his videos if he actually plans on surviving making these vids. This vid was very low b rated quality. C'mon its 2020. On top of that he's running welding cable for power & ground, yet he's using a $4000 plus amp dyno WTF!!!? Dude really needs to step it up! Yes, yes I know welding cable works... But why cheap out!? Not like quality OFC costs a fortune... Think maybe that welding cable could have played a small role into the amp popping at 1 ohm? We'll never know. BUT I WILL SAY it sure is odd that Big D was able to do a dyno test vid of this Soundstream 18k amp, he ran it at ohm & did more rms at 1 ohm than Jones did & Bid D did not pop his Soundstream 18k... Is it the welding cable, maybe other shortcuts that Jones took that may not have been as obvious on video, we may never know. I will say Williston Audio Labs is MUCH more professional & knowledgeable than the fly by night cat in this video. Lol everyone have a great day.

@@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 it may not be on par with Williston audio Labs but it still provides information we can use when we're trying to find an amp Dyno that none of the bigger channels have Dyno yet. There used to be a time when RU-vid was a dating site and finding help video information like this was very scarce and extremely B rated quality. Also I only know of 2 other channels who primarily focus on amp dynos, beside the few manufactures who have done a few vids. Budget Gem, and Williston. SMD don't really do dynos even though he made the tool.

@@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 Welding cable is superior to car audio cable in pretty much every aspect. It played zero role in the amp popping and use of welding cable was a performance move, and nothing to do with my budget. Stay tuned for more of my "cheap" videos or pack your ignorance somewhere else 👊

@@Facekicker I will never claim to know everything, only then does one cease gaining knowledge. So possibly I am lacking in my knowledge of welding cable. If so educate on my lack thereof. Imagine it this way. Dawn dish liquid is for washing dishes & greasy pots & pans. Do I doubt its ability to clean my body if I showered with it? Of course not. But that doesn't mean I use dish liquid to shower with due to it being more cost effective & possibly stronger on grease & dirt.? No, I still choose to use soap specifically made with the intended purpose of being used on human skin when showering. In the same way that welding cable's intended purpose is not for car audio. Will it work yes, does it perform in a superior manner when compared to a quality ofc copper power wire? Well, I would think not. That would be something you would have to prove to me. Then I would be stand up enough to admit I was wrong & had learned something new through being properly educated. Of course welding cable will be superior to a inferior power wire consisting of only 30% or less of true copper & using 70% or more of aluminum or whatever other fillers some manufacturers choose to use. BUT I can even name quality CCA power wires that have excellent performance ability & power transfer. So if a car audio company can make a mid tier CCA power wire that has achieved at powering a car audio build to a certified 180+ DB... Why not show some love by supporting that car audio business & running one of their power wires instead of welding cable? After all it is that type of mentality that keeps what we all love moving forward & progressing. Btw one of the companies I'm speaking of offers both CCA & OFC if one prefers one over the other. But for a person who has a passion for music & car audio doesn't using car audio power wire instead of welding cable just make sense? Idk, maybe I'm just missing something & if that's the case then its nobody's fault but my own. Though I was raised to & still believe in supporting locally owned independent business. Music & car audio being a long time passion of mine I try to support those working in the business who strive to keep it alive & moving forward! So far I'm not aware of any car audio companies making nor supplying welding cable for the use of power/ground wires. Though I haven't specifically looked neither. So Facekicker if you want to educate me on what you think I should know about welding cable, I'm all ears. I'll read whatever info you want to provide. I know everyone seems to have different preferences on many different subjects in car audio BUT preferences are not always facts. So if you want to take another moment of your time to bring me up to speed then I'll read any info you comment. Btw I didn't even bring up the usual difference in the strand size of car audio power wires when compared to the size of welding cable. Strand size can play a large role in the power flow & efficiency aswell. (Which I'm sure you already knew that) PS Facekicker I have seen this same model Soundstream amp tested on the dyno @1 ohm with no issues. It didn't fail.

power wire has 1 purpose supply power. if you honestly think welding cable manufacturers cheap out on there cables that are intended to supply equipment with brutal power requirements (basically holding a dead short constant while melting away a rod anywhere from 1/8" to 3/8"+ day in day out some places 24/7 for months on end your seriously mistaken its just not pretty with a different logo PRINTED on the side. lmao i wonder how much R&D money you think sky high spent "designing" the car audio only power wire? your probly buying left handed screwdrivers too

Exactly my thoughts as well.

Or your electrical system smh.

Ran my hifonics brz 1700.1 at 1ohm all its life. Never even got warm. Had a xs power 3400 under hood. and big three. 14.4 volts all day.

Especially .5 ohms. I run that in a lexus. Buddahoutchea on youtube 2 see it flex

@@knikkaknikk86 the thing is when you have them on the speakers the impedance rises sonits not on 1 ohm exactly might be like 1. Something

I was just wondering if this amp can handle half ohm thanks I’ll be buying this next

Update, this amp does not like half ohm! I rock 2 now because of that

I had the soundstream class A Continuum amp, when I used to be in competitions. That thing went from 25 watts to a thousand Watts. It was a beautiful amp!

Big D ain't burning up amps to need to explain that, cuz thats why he explained it cuz it happened.

big d has.. just not every time...

He burned up a Hifonics in one video, tried to run at half ohm and toasted it. Look it up.

I mean it did fail tho 😢

You're right. It's on fire. So you can't touch it

Still wouldn't put that crap in my ride.

@@mac4782 definitely not

@@mac4782 Why not?

@@JasonWW2000 Be patient save your money and buy quality. It's cheap for a reason. Cheap doesn't last long no matter what it is. Even if you're a beginner be patient.

How was it wired to 1ohm on 2 comp 15's when comp is either single 8 or single 4 ohm coils?

L7 Q class 15s

I appreciate that.

Budget piece of shit if you ask me! Blew on the table! 😳

@@tammyforbes2101 yeah it blew at 1ohm when pushed but 4-5K watts for $300? Cmon that’s a gem

@@Hectoriousz rated at >.3 THD 🤔 means it's a piece of shit for subs 🤫. Almost no cone control! Not to mention 5k and they boast 18k. Damn not even 9k. This amp has SHIT written all over it. $450 on average may be ok for mids, but not for dirty power on the subs

Its junk

Junk soundstream junk so disappointing to what they become from what they were junk junk junk junk

box rise tho

How is the sq at low frequencies and how much hissing do they make through the subs? I'm considering one but my subs are sitting in the back of my suv. I don't want any weird high frequency noises coming from the subs that I can hear. Some class d amps do it and it's normal because of their design.

🐂💩! HOW IS THAT STRESSING THE AMP THAT'S RATED AT 1OHM? 🤔

@@2slofouru excellent with no his whatsoever. Also, the higher impedance seems to make the gain control less sensitive and this is always a plus.

@@Mr.NpK143 it's actually 👌 The rating of 1 ohm, is simply stating the amplifier "can" be wired that low. The manual offers wattge ratings for 4, 2 and 1 ohm loads respectively and like I told someone else it seems like there is more controlled or dare I say cleaner power at higher ohm loads, where it does not work the amplifier as hard to produce. More than six months and the only thing it's missing is... stay tuned to my page for a "1 year review" of both the Soundstream extreme 12k and the L7 Q Class 15's!

These two amps replaced my two taramps md 8000.1 I had more problems out of the taramps and I still said I’m waiting for someone else to do a better dyno on this amp Because I have had these amps for three months running in a 1 ohm with no problems

Agreed to much power going in needs to be no higher then 14.5v I ran mine with my amm1 and got 6700 rms at 1ohm no problem 😉

@@nvx8k what problems were you having out of your Taramps md8000? (curious since I have a 1 ohm md8 amp) I'm shocked to hear that someone switched from 2 Taramps 8k amps to 2 of these Soundstream.... No way these Soundstream are putting out even close to the rms the Taramps do! And even those these Soundstream may not be as power hungry as some other Chinese I'll never believe that when wired at 1 ohm that these Soundstream are more efficient than the Brazilian Taramps. Even when a Taramps 8k putting out more rms than this Soundstream I still think the Taramps would draw less Amperage & be easier on the cars electrical system than these Soundstream "18000" *BTW I'm by no means a Soundstream hater. I know they make some decent products long as one knows which to buy & which to leave on the shelf. Too bad they aren't the same company they were a long time ago. They did make GREAT audio gear years ago instead of this mediocre stuff they make now. Idk my opinion bang for the buck & running at 1 ohm I prefer Taramps. That's just my preference & everyone has different opinions & different experiences with car audio products given they are running different quality wiring, alternators, batteries etc. *Current new amps I have: 1. Taramps Smart3 (been running it for months on a single 18 and pushing amp & sub both hard, have had problems out of neither. Plus I can't even begin to describe how amazed I am at how efficient the 3k Smart3 is! At full till playing rebassed rap I see ZERO voltage drop) 2. Trauma Concussion Series 3.5k Bluetooth amp (Korea amp for anyone not familiar with Trauma amps) 3. Taramps md8000.1

Agreed as a member of team soundstream im here to say all numbers that epsilon rates there products at are rated according to specs and this being a fullbridge amp with high current low power design in mind honestly sits real happy at 14.2 volts and the packaging also clearly states that it can be drivin at 16 volts testing was done at 14.4 and it recomends not to exceed 15 volts because the current draw is much higher than that of a standard halfbridge esspecially with a resistive load speakers in enclosures change there own impeadance quite a bit you never wind up being at 1 ohm due to the box rise so case in point sir you have diligantly shown the world how to improperly utilize an amplifier dyno

@@matthewlewis7630 yeah and if you look on every single Dino he did certified uncertified and music simulation it's distorting the whole time the red light is blinking which means he's clipping the whole time he's testing from when he it's that button to start it till it finishes up that red light is blinking and blinking and blinking!!! It's a damn shame people make videos and act like they know what they're doing and misinform people! Shit if it was up to me and I was in charge I would be finding all these fucking idiots that are leading anyone in a public and lying and providing misinformation this world would be a better place too many fucking scammers and dickheads anymore

It's still a good 1 ohm amp. Something to realize is a 40hz test on an amp dyno is really hard on an amp.

@@beardedforlife3740 NICE your right I'm wired way under ohms but after box rise I'm probably only seeing 1.2 at most on each one of my amps.

Can I blame the smoke and excitement? Resistive on the dyno, reactive on a sub - I got confused indeed. I don't think hitting pause sooner would have saved this amp though, the dyno had just barely locked the numbers down when it went, maybe 2 seconds later it popped. I see what you mean though.

@@Facekicker Why did you expect rated with one run of 0? You were trying to push too much power through the tiny power wire imo.

@@Facekicker Go to bcae1 dot com and go to the Power Wire Calculator and input your 15 feet, watch it tell you to use bigger wire.

I think he faked it blowing up. Freudian slip say its gonna blow at the beginning of the video then when it does blow he's missing the power clamp and there is NO smoke from the amp and the lights are still blue... 🤔

@@drjd2real Perhaps the manufacturer should use a pair of 1/0 inputs and outputs.

Which is a knockoff Zigzags logo.

w/the Unibomber sketch

I think the author has corrected himself in the comments many times 😉

I had my t1 6000dl for 6 years at .5 ohms i finally smoked it but i rebuilt it with alittle bit of modifications and ramped it up to 6000 watts rms this was a certified run at .5 and it still runs to this day although it takes its toll on woofers gotta be some strong subs to take it now

Damn bubb you make me want to get 2. Great explanation

It's not 3%, it's 0.3%. That's an important difference.

@@JasonWW2000 oooh, yes. You are correct. That will change the expectation of hitting actual power as advertised. Hmm, even more interesting is that they're claiming 1/3rd the THD than the amp dyno tests at yet the amp still won't make rated power. Good catch homie. I still feel these amps are great bang for the buck. :)

@@Bugglebub Yes, they just need to name it as a legit 6,000 watt amp. Using the 18,000 number just makes it seem cheap and unworthy. They are shooting themselves in the foot.

as long as he test the amps subscribers request its all good

@@allmotorhash Right on I'm just being a snarky prick. But seriously though. What is he going to test that others don't or haven't already covered? The walmart shit?

@@666hobart The wolfram O series that nobody had tested yet

@@allmotorhash I see a lot of people in groups talking about those, so that makes sense. Especially if the less heard of budget companies are seeing some testing I guess that makes sense. I give em all views anyway lol. Someone needs to test an older Soundstream TA1.3000D I have one in excellent condition to test but won't mail it. I would bring it to a tuber if one was close-ish. But yaa like I said I was just being a cunt with my original comment.

O Series will be here Tuesday I've got a list of viewer requested amps either pending bench time or pending editing/upload. Holidays got me a little behind but we've got a lot prepared.

I'll check em out

@@Facekicker I appreciate it. Just so you know, am retired Purchasing Manager for a Electronics Manufacture, so I know how the system works. This information is not solely based on my experience but insider information as well. It pains me to see the decline of the great company Hifonics used to be to what it is now....

Thank you sir Gotta pay to play and I was expecting it on this one 😢

@@Facekicker you have an idea how many amps it was pullin before it popped?

@@kswis it had climbed somewhere in the 600a area

I popped my old chrome Rockford Fosgate Power 1100a2 a couple weeks ago I hate that sound

@@justinkelsey9218 oh man, that's horrible! I'm sorry to hear. That's the stuff nightmares are made of. I had a tramp 3k that popped and my first amp a pioneer that popped but it's been a few yrs since I've smelled that horrible scent. Good excuse to upgrade

That amp is a Beast. I heard it on two Rockville destroyer 15s at 1 ohm. The dude's car sounded wicked with the Bass

I blame the amp smoke for the confusion

@@Facekicker Lmao🤣🤣🤣 ......good answer.

Yeah, I'd like to see that too. I had one I just sold and never even ran it in my vehicle. Has way more transistors than this soundstream, but obviously won't make numbers as high. I've never seen those earthquakes dynoed, the last US built amps earthquake put out. Wouldn't have sold mine, but I needed something more compact.

@@2slofouru I have mine hooked up to alpine 9515 head unit. Epic center. 4 old school pioneer 12's not even turned up a qtr. It slaps. Big 7 upgrade and 320 amp JS Alternator .... I got same series PHD5000W/2 same setup in truck . still need to upgrade alternator.

Oh man I'll try to tone it down

@@Facekicker Thank you for the video.

They're typical Chinese standard fare these days

A good power supply like the Taramps Procharger series will do standalone operation without a battery, but on 120v you'd be looking at 1000w of support max without adding battery or running multiple supplies. Each power supply would need its own 20a breaker as well. I am a Taramps dealer and if you'd like pricing or other info, you are welcome to message me through YT, or the Jones Subwoofer Solutions page on FB, Instagram, or the web.

Always Contact info is on the channel

It's been commented on already but yeah I let it eat 🤷 I'll be ready to smack pause when doing future 1 ohm cert runs on full bridge amps.

It seams to me that there trashing other companies, he had ever intentions on blowing that amp, all others that tests amps never make comments like that, still good power from that amp as well as the Soundstream 6000d he trashed on.

I buy these amps with my own money, trust me I don't want to blow anything on my bench.

We just randomly spin the gain knob with zero regard

Personally I'd feel safer using something like Taramps, but yes.

Faulty amp is likely, these apparently have a weak QA/QC process.

It will push it a little bit

@@hammett1985 I got it hooked up you can hear it half a mile away we tested it 😂

I may be able to arrange that

@@Facekicker you're the GOAT man!

~300a is the biggest you should run on a single 1/0 run

Someone who is I terestwd in this 8snt going to be running a 16v CMAX bank

Voltage wasn't a factor. Mfgr rates them for 16v operation. They can't handle extended clipping at rated impedance on the bench - it's inherent in every Chinese SD clone board. Same as Wolfram O Series and Sundown SFB. They need to see rise.

@@Facekicker so with box rise 1.3 ohm it should run fine? Real world situation

@@lol-ld3jh I would be hesitant to wire under 1 ohm no matter the rise, and don't think I'd do it at all personally unless I know I'm gonna rise past 2 ohms. I'd say rising to only 1.3ohms would be playing with fire, literally. And as mentioned before this would apply to any of the Chinese SD clones, not just the Soundstream. Taramps Smart5k or Smart5BASS would be a much safer and more reliable amp with low rise in this case, in my opinion, and will match or beat the clamped power of the Soundstream.

@@Facekicker was really looking for something to put out 2500 range a 1 ohm. I saw this figured I'd have plenty of head room for bigger build in the future.

Dynamic is a burst track and everything worked as one should expect it to. No difference in any other amp doing dynamic runs.

We'll be doing the full Taramps lineup on our new bank soon

He was stopping dyno pretty fast, I may have let the thing eat too long.

@@Facekicker maybe it was still cool too hear it break though.

Thats because big d knows what he is doing with his dyno alot of pricipals here that are overlooked that caused this failure pure operator error

Or, the failure point of the amp was demonstrated, rather than playing it safe. I don't see anything wrong with that type of transparency.

Dude if that thing does what they say, then I think my next purchase will be one of them

We'll be testing one.

How do you like the audio legion? I have a pair of their tweeters which I'm happy with 👍

@@charlespetersonii6989 I love it! Its rated 1550 rms but I know it puts out more now that my electrical is good. It can be strapped and has tiffany RCA's inputs. It's a Korean board also. Strong amp. Never gets hot!💪💪💪👍💯

@@bassjunkie2020 same dude I have an audio legion 3500 on 1 18. Plays all day!!

@@moonmanmike26hz71 Thats the amp I want is the 3500. But I can buy a 2nd 1600 and strap them for same results!👍👊😎💯

Bring it by any time during business hours and I will get it done. Thanks Omarr!

12 minutes lol

@@randymoore1805 haha my thoughts exactly

Made in China. 😳😢

@@stckyjoey1 you do not own anything made in China?

@@itdoesntmatterwhatyourname6128 Yes I do that's why I hade that comment. Electronics from there are called throw aways. I still have my Lanzar opti made in the USA. 😊

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