Adjusting the PTO stage of a 2 stage clutch

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This one has been a request I get reasonably frequently and I finally had the opportunity to address it. I had this engine out to make for good visibility so I could show how a PTO clutch is adjusted for many International and Massey Ferguson tractors.

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@terrycarl8923 Месяц назад

This video was very helpful thanks for making it i have a 1968 ih444 thats been abused for years by previous owners and now i have it and im learning how to fix it

@CanadianRedneck15 Месяц назад

I am glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!

@280813jb Год назад

Dave, you make it look easy, try doing that up through the inspection plate. We also found that the heads on the adjustment screws on the pressure plate fingers will become worn and if you turn these screws a quarter turn then a new surface will be used and PTO will engage properly. This was problem occurred more on tractors used with front end loaders.

@CanadianRedneck15 Год назад

Thanks for the tip on the lever bolts! Loader tractors definitely take more abuse to the clutch. Thanks for watching!

@leinhit Год назад

I just did it thru the inspection plate today.. wasn't fun but it worked and is now fixed.. ( I didn't try the adjustment screws though)

@CanadianRedneck15 Год назад

@@leinhit Excellent, glad to hear it turned out!

@landroverihtractor1965 Год назад

Very helpful as always - thanks Dave

@CanadianRedneck15 Год назад

I'm glad you enjoyed it thanks for watching!

@dtm8073 4 месяца назад

Didn't realize I could adjust the 2nd stage clutch on my B275 I thought I had to replace it. Will definitely give that a try. Thanks Dave.

@CanadianRedneck15 4 месяца назад

I'm glad to be helpful, thanks for watching!

@danieledistefano3651 Год назад

Good to see ya CR!

@CanadianRedneck15 Год назад

You as well, thanks for watching!

@thegreatchickenoverlord5976 Год назад

Exactly what i needed. The 2 stage on my clutch does not work at all but i had no idea how to adjust it

@CanadianRedneck15 Год назад

I am glad you found the video helpful, thanks for watching!

@masseymm Год назад

great vid Dave, good timing as I'm fixing up a MF 255 and I have to check the clutch on it

@CanadianRedneck15 Год назад

I'm glad the timing worked out, thanks for watching!

@ihus9950 Год назад

Great info 👍🏻

@CanadianRedneck15 Год назад

I'm glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!

@noelstractors-firewood57 Год назад

Great to know. As I was watching I wondered, jumpins do you have to split the tractor. Any way, great video, hope you had a good Canada day weekend.

@starflite3 7 месяцев назад

Very helpful. Thanks.

@CanadianRedneck15 7 месяцев назад

I am glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!

@jeepcj3b436 9 месяцев назад

Yes. Thank you for this video. Your other one of MF 175 2 stage clutch assembly was helpful as well. I'm still having trouble really understanding how these two stage clutches work to understand the "why" on the adjustments - if you have a written explanation or can do a video that explains how the components work as the clutch pedal is pressed in or let out that would be useful for some of us.

@CanadianRedneck15 9 месяцев назад

I had been wondering if anybody would be interested in a video like that, I will see what I can do. Thanks for watching!

@penderkev 7 месяцев назад

The 3 bolts he adjusted, screw into the main clutch pressure plate, as the main clutch disc wears that pressure plate will move forward and cause the 3 bolts to be further away from the PTO pressure plate, dictating their readjustment.

@tonybunch543 Год назад

👍 I’ve got a 275 Massey that needs that, thought I was gonna have to split it.😓

@CanadianRedneck15 Год назад

Its tight but you should be able to get to it through the inspection plate on the bottom of the clutch housing. Thanks for watching!

@rc9119 3 месяца назад

Hey Dave thanks for the channel it’s been a ton of help. ? I have a David Brown 880 and am wondering how to adjust the clutch… peddle is at the top but it still engages and drives. Thanks

@CanadianRedneck15 3 месяца назад

I am not certain on an 880 but check you pedal linkage, there may be a way to get yourself some free-play there. Thanks for watching!

@oldtractorandcats6352 6 месяцев назад

how do you adjust the other clutch i havent pulled the panel yet but plan to in the next couple days the pedal has to be pushed all the way down

@ronirazyoren 9 месяцев назад

Thank you so much Dave. This is super informative and clear. I have a 1966 IH B414 that my dad is its first owner. You mentioned it can be done via the clutch's inspection plates. Sorry for the dumb question but where are they located? TIA

@CanadianRedneck15 9 месяцев назад

There is a large rectangular tin plate under the clutch housing. Thanks for watching!

@donvoll2580 Год назад

Good day Dave from Ontario. Yes interesting video. Were wild fires close to you.?? Thanks

@CanadianRedneck15 Год назад

Thanks Don, thankfully there were no fires close to me and it's been raining a lot here since early june, we be hard pressed to light a fire4 with gas right now. LOL Thanks for watching!

@leinhit Год назад

Dave, exactly what i needed for my 444.. i was about to split it for the first time but i will try thru the inspection plate first. The trans clutch works fine, the pto clutch doesn't work at all.. Any chance of showing how to replace the pto lever on a 444? Mine broke off and i have the new one.. you explained it once to me but a video would be easier to understand.. Wish u were near me in Michigan! Thanks for the vids, i watch them all. - steve

@CanadianRedneck15 Год назад

I am glad you found the video helpful. I will try to do one on the PTO lever some time when I have the chance. Thanks for watching!

@leinhit Год назад

FIXED! Dave, today I got under there... Rotated the engine by hand found the three adjusting bolts as you indicated. There was way too much clearance. I adjust them down to .80 as you said. I then adjusted almost all of the play out of the clutch pedal, and then with someone standing on the clutch pedal as hard as they could I use a hammer to bang on the clutch and it split apart. I tested it and it seems to be working... First time in years. It sat in a barn for years and I think the clutch just corroded together. Thanks! ( Oh, and I did it through the inspection plate). That alone makes up for all the smoke you guys sent last week, wow that was thick here! :)

@CanadianRedneck15 Год назад

@@leinhit Awesome, glad you found the cure! :)

@pierregagne6109 4 месяца назад

B250 looking for the 3 spring holding the carbon bearing on the pressure plate, plus the 2 pieces carbon bearing

@CanadianRedneck15 4 месяца назад

cast iron plate on the pressure plate, the carbon is in the release bearing. Those pieces aren't available separately so you will likely have to buy a complete pressure plate. Thanks for watching!

@upatthefarm6888 Год назад

Wish you were my neighbor, that would be super handy! HAHA - would you now anyone in the Ottawa area with this level of knowledge with these old red tractors?

@CanadianRedneck15 Год назад

Sorry I don't but if you check in with a couple of the smaller farms in your area they might be able to guide you in the right direction. Thanks for watching!

@dtm8073 4 месяца назад

Did you try Bourbonnais in Sarsfield?

Год назад

Hi Dave! I got a IH 616 from 1963,and I can’t find anything on the internet about the tractor. Do you know something about it? Sweden farmers 🇸🇪👍

@CanadianRedneck15 Год назад

I'm not familiar with a 616 but if it's the tractor in your profile picture it looks a lot like a 414. I understand in the UK there was a 6 cylinder version, your 616 may be one like that. Thanks for watching!

@terrycarl8923 Месяц назад

What distance do the fingers need to be from the throwout bearing i accidently loosened the wrong adjuster and its now way to close

@CanadianRedneck15 Месяц назад

You want about 1" to 1 1/2" of free play on your clutch pedal. Thanks for watching!

@terrycarl8923 Месяц назад

Thanks

@user-qz6iv3ox4u 8 месяцев назад

I am in a pickle with the glow plugs on 424 international tractor diesel Power goes to 432 but not 1 But no heat Test them with battery and burned glow plugs instantly 😢😢😢 Do t nkow what aelse to do Please help😢😢