Advanced Tincture Making: Double Extracted Lion's Mane Mushroom

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Looking to make more potent and precise herbal medicine? Take your alcohol extract tinctures to the next level by learning this more intermediate/advanced herbal medicine making technique. Herb Nerd's founder Colleen has worked in medicinal herb labs for years and wants to share this double extract process with you! Advanced medicine making FREE content like this is hard to find, so please show your support by LIKING 👍🏾 this video and SUBSCRIBING to our channel.
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🎞 IN THIS VIDEO: This 30 minute video will walk you through the process step by step. Follow along with Colleen as she walks you through this 2 step process. Most mushrooms have both alcohol and hot-water soluble constituents. We will start by extracting the alcohol soluble constituents of LION'S MANE MUSHROOM, mainly its hericenones and erinacines, which are both neurotrophic and neuroprotective, using a full strength (100% ethanol) organic cane alcohol. Once this has macerated for 4 weeks, we will strain it and decoct the marc (left over plant material), simmering in hot water for a few hours. This hot water extract/decoction is then combined with the alcohol extract USING THE DILUTION EQUATION to make the final, double extracted, mushroom tincture.
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Time signatures:
22:41 see me using a hydraulic press to strain the liquid away from the solids
12:05 water amount for decoction = use a 1 to 10 ratio. So our pressed shroom weight was 162 g x 10 = 1620 ml as we need to put 875 ml decoction back into the tincture and need to account or loss. If you have any decoction left over, drink it!
key numbers for this preparation:
Original fresh mushroom weight: 580 grams
Ratio = 1:2 so 580 g mushroom x 2 = 1160 ml alcohol
alcohol strength = 95% ethanol, I used this at full strength
Final pressed tincture volume: 1500 ml
I curt this in half and only made the double extract w/ half of the tincture volume = 750 ml
Marc weight after pressing: 162 g (original weight 580g)
Amount of water for decoction [ 12:05 ] 1 part mushroom weight to 10 parts water
Dilution equation: [(65% / 30%)x750ml]-750 ml = 875 ml decoction
This method can be used for ANY HERB OR FUNGUS WITH BOTH WATER AND ALCOHOL SOLUBLE CONSTITUENTS, such as:
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Comfrey leaf/root
Burdock Root
Hawthron berry
Rose hips
Reishi mushroom
Cordycep mushroom
Chaga mushroom
Maitake mushroom
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@kennetharmbruster 29 дней назад

She speaks clearly. She gets straight to the point. Take notes RU-vidrs : THIS is how you do an instructional video!!!

@chrissavidge2062 Год назад

By far the best double extraction instruction video I've seen.

@lunahart 2 года назад

Excellent content--precise, thorough, and pleasantly delivered!

@hkmakeupartistry9487 2 года назад

You're just AMAZING! Thank you for this video and for being so clear and concise 🙏

@HerbNerdSchool 2 года назад

Awe…you’re amazing 😻

@homeslice4644 2 года назад

Holy cow! You explained everything so well! Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge with us 🙂

@HerbNerdSchool 2 года назад

Thank you!!!

@mainetiques 2 года назад

FINALLY !!!!!!!! After spending years watching videos that left me scratching my head about ratios and why they are important. Dosage amounts All my questions answered in one video . Excellent work you did . I had one unanswered question and you answered it in the comment section. I am a forager here in Maine, I prefer drying prior to extracting. You had an excellent answer on that topic as well. I am not only impressed by your knowledge . It is refreshing the straight forward approach you take in simple explanations rather than including "filler" information. Thank You Subscribed with only one thumbs up Lol

@HerbNerdSchool 2 года назад

I just want you to know that even though I never commented on this, I come back to it time and time again for motivation! Thanks for your kind words 🥰

@titaniumquarrion9838 Год назад

Why 30% or is that arbitrary? Off the shelf tinctures seem to sit anywhere between 20 and 30%. Is there a specific ratio of elements extracted using the water vs alcohol to achieve best medicinal effect? If not, it seems to be generally 50/50. In which case the maths whole not overly complicated seem to be unnecessary. Eg if my alcohol is anywhere between 60-70% I just go 1:1 and end up with a 30-35% tincture. Equally for those using lower potency alcohol say 47% OP rum on dried mushroom (so no excess water dilution) then going 1:1 will result in 20-23% tincture. I assume at this stage Alcohol percentages are more to do when the taste? Any thoughts on that are appreciated. If using plain alcohol I also add pure vanilla essence to the water before cooling while still just warm.

@mainetiques Год назад

@@HerbNerdSchool ⚗🧪🧫

@sb5149 Год назад

@Titanium Quarrion If the alcohol % drops below 25% it will go bad.

@tataratauffagoogle6634 4 месяца назад

You are great!!! Thank you so much all the questions popping in my head answered! Strait and clear thank you❤❤❤

@gregdedmanrocking4life549 10 месяцев назад

You are a wonderful teacher. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

@tigerlily222 11 месяцев назад

I love your press! Great info, just grew my first batch of Lion's Mane his week (yes, they're tasty to eat as well!). Thanks for the share!

@madtothemax8137 4 месяца назад

That’s exactly what I’ve been looking for. Great video.

@TheMultimarkanthony 7 месяцев назад

I started watching your tincture videos a month ago and I’m very grateful for all the information you shared with us. I ordered that awesome press you have for sell🤙

@HerbNerdSchool 7 месяцев назад

Rad! I’m glad you’re liking my content 😊

@ajmoore5155 8 месяцев назад

This was such an amazing video!! It was inspiring, educational and it was understandable! You did a wonderful job with this! I can not wait to try it. Also, please give your hubby a BIG THANKS for the formula! What a game changer!

@larryslugnutzs6990 2 года назад

Thanks, very helpful vid. I learned the dilution equation! Awesome! Thanks for doing this.

@emmatobin5825 3 года назад

Amazing info Colleen!!! You are a brilliant teacher

@HerbNerdSchool 3 года назад

Thank you Emma!!

@ellygeosad298 2 года назад

Thank you so much for this beautiful video, I enjoyed very much, and can see what it is that I needed to learn to make better tincture of Lions mane.

@Sh1rian 3 года назад

It was really easy to understand and the instructions were clean, thank you for the video.

@HerbNerdSchool 3 года назад

Yay, thanks for saying so! 🙌🏽

@Fooktard323 2 года назад

Thank you so much for this information. I have a couple pounds of dried lion's mane I've been saving. Now I can put it to use BTW, they are delicious fresh, fried in avocado oil with salt and pepper.

@ZeroRacer 2 года назад

I used this same process for making my Reishi extract thank you so much

@liaskyeyoga 2 года назад

Amazing video, so informative and you are a fantastic teacher! 💚🌿

@HerbNerdSchool 2 года назад

Thank you so much!

@shannonnava 3 года назад

Thank you for clarifying. Great video, it was very informative and well put together.

@HerbNerdSchool 3 года назад

Thanks for the feedback 🙏🏻❤️

@MataH1 10 месяцев назад

I nearly passed you on when I saw the dum intro, so glad my hands were busy cooking! Fantastic, clear, precise video, absolutely perfect thank you! I've subscribed!

@HerbNerdSchool 9 месяцев назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@hotforhaha1 3 года назад

I have to say, you piqued my interest from the very first words that came out of your mouth. Clean, concise, non-filling words. You're truly a remarkable teacher and speaker. Thank you so much for what you have to contribute to the world!

@HerbNerdSchool 3 года назад

Wow, your comment MADE MY DAY!! Thanks for taking the time to share this with me, it means a lot 💓

@hotforhaha1 2 года назад

@@HerbNerdSchool My goodness I can’t believe I’m just now seeing this after revisiting your video! You’re welcome and thank you!

@user-wd6xh3qs6h 9 месяцев назад

it " peaked. "

@user-in8bz3kd7d 3 месяца назад

@@HerbNerdSchoolBeauty, how to extract love hormones from ergot

@user-in8bz3kd7d 3 месяца назад

@@HerbNerdSchoolWhere are the Lion's Mane Mushroom fungal spores and how to extract the fungal spore species value?

@winstongludovatz111 5 месяцев назад

Great presentation, very thorough. Thanks!

@hillbillyherb Год назад

Awesome demo! That's a really slick press too!

@ZackAriah94 2 года назад

Impressive thank you very much for this video

@Deidra-Alchemist 12 дней назад

Great tutorial! Thanks so much. Been wondering for years about ABV, ratios and the math.

@elienwa6623 2 года назад

thank you for such a clear video!

@hunterbooth3929 Год назад

Man this is exactly what I was looking for

@tipntricksstuffnthings449 2 года назад

Love to see your take on a Moringa extract. That stuffs got a lot of hype recently, for good reason! Definitely recommend you look into it. From what I've read it's 4x richer source of Potassium than Bananas. Amazing stuff!

@theruralgardener123 9 месяцев назад

I have watched this about 100 times, and am totally inspired! I own a small mushroom company in Texas and grow a boatload of Lion's Mane for market. I dehydrate any that I don't sell [which is rare] and have been waiting to find a easily explained way to move toward tincture making. I bought a press on-line and it totally made the job of pressing so much easier. I reserved the menstruum and simmered it down for about 4 hours. I tried to press, but never got any clear liquid as you did.{any idea why?} So, I used fresh LM to make the decoction. I thought that by doing this, I'd probably get a stronger water extraction. Thank you for the math lesson. Very grateful for you.

@patriciamiceli1891 2 года назад

Thank you for an amazing instructional video!!!

@HerbNerdSchool 2 года назад

Thanks for saying so 🥰

@RipperYouTubeOfficial Год назад

Loved your video. Please make more of these type videos

@GodisGreat...89 2 года назад

I am ur subscriber now...crystal clear extraction process...

@HerbNerdSchool 2 года назад

yay!! welcome to the fam :)

@prestinenovelity6551 5 месяцев назад

That was really owesome. I need a press like that or bigger for my cosmetic extracts

@miheadhurts Год назад

Thank you for posting. If you put your mushroom and water mix in a clean cotton bag you can tie it up and hang it over a bowl and leave it overnight. The water part will be left in the bowl in the morning. You dont need any mathematical equations to do this. Just keep adding the mushroom water mix to the alcohol mix until you read 30% with your hydrometer.

@esmeeverhoef1016 2 года назад

Wauw this is such a powerful and well explained instruction video. Thank you so much for this share of knowledge. Absolutely appreciate it :-))

@HerbNerdSchool 2 года назад

thanks for saying so :) Glad it was helpful!

@InMushroomsWeTrust Месяц назад

Fantastic presentation great teacher 👏😁

@anidiquaojala1804 2 года назад

Thank you !

@yvonnebennatt9797 2 года назад

Inspirational!

@DementiaSurvivor 11 месяцев назад

Thanks so much ❤

@nicolelewis9969 10 месяцев назад

Amazing! Thank you

@bebbs4629 3 года назад

Thank you so much! finally someone explaining the ratios and the a proper tek to extract! not like all the others "add this much and this much and is good" thank you to take the time to explain the quantity and the reasons behind it and really explain EVERYTHING that we need to know to make our own tinctures properly! :)

@HerbNerdSchool 3 года назад

you are welcome! Its what I love to do ;)

@crazyjimmiy 2 года назад

Thank you. Very helpful video =)

@EnergyFlux2012 Год назад

Helpful video.

@bucksurf Год назад

I can see that everyone feels the same, after watching so many videos on herbs and tincture making you have finally made one that leaves no questions!! Very well done and I am excited to be a new subscriber to your channel and to see what else I can learn from you! I have one question, where can I find that hydraulic press you are using? Thanks again and keep up the great work!!

@HerbNerdSchool Год назад

HI, thanks for your kind words

@taffy-sophiashahbozian7327 10 месяцев назад

From all the videos I’ve watched must of them are first timers and really have no idea what they’re doing. I appreciate this woman’s knowledge and professionalism ❤

@sinepilot 2 года назад

I love this video! Thank you so much! I just wish you had shown the first pressing. I don't understand how you would have put something so relatively liquid into a tray seemingly meant for fruits/solids. I've never used a presser before so maybe it would be more obvious once I have some experience.

@HerbNerdSchool 2 года назад

Right, sorry about that! I usually run liquidy things like this through a fine mesh coffee filter before pressing the mass. Mr coffee makes one. I also have a pressing for infused oils that may offer some insight: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yMFpzzVbtFE.html

@katebarton7134 3 месяца назад

Thank you so much for this video. I’m in the process of making a lions mane tincture using freeze dried mushrooms and I didn’t know how to do the math

@gwenscott6999 2 года назад

Fantastic video Colleen! After watching numerous videos that have left me confused as to exactly what I’m supposed to be doing you’ve simplified it beautifully. Thank you so much for the dilution equation. One thing that I did not quite catch is the amount of water used for the decoction. Can you please tell me how you determine the amount for water for the decoction part of the extraction?

@HerbNerdSchool 2 года назад

Hi Gwen. Sorry I didn't cover that in the video. I would do a 1:5 to ensure you have enough volume to add back into the tincture.

@barrykershaw9818 9 месяцев назад

Great video,thx

@mitchellwintercat 2 года назад

I am amazed you have not contaminated your work.

@missionmushroom 2 года назад

Could you share the make and model of the press? Thank you - LOVED this video

@kimleow6662 2 года назад

Best tutorial I've seen.Well explained.Thank you. What is your opinion on using the magical butter machine for extraction ?

@blenderbenderguy 2 года назад

My understanding is the Magic Butter machine as well as the Levo are intended only for extracting into oils..... I may be wrong. But also consider the safety of heating 95% Ethanol which is highly flammable. Extreme caution would be advised.

@mrstigbittys Год назад

Lovely, informative video! I am curious, for this tincture why must the alcohol extraction take place first? Or is it fine to start with the water extraction? Either way, I am able to understand your process in this video. Can't wait to extract some mushrooms!

@stratocaster1134 3 года назад

Thanks for the amazing video, super helpful! I was wondering if you have sent the tinctures to get lab tested just to see how potent the extract is? Cheers!

@HerbNerdSchool 3 года назад

I have not, but would be interested to see!

@rationalgaze-vy1ik Год назад

You have some very useful information and for that I thank you. The only thing I'm struggling with is how diluted your final product is.

@michelletaylor3240 2 года назад

I love the detail but am curious if you can use regular mason jars for the fermentation process does the lid contact change the chemical dynamic of the tincture?

@dr.iftikharahmad8274 Год назад

Very nice

@claytune8075 Год назад

I've seen other videos where they use a machine that heats up and reclaims the alcohol - taking it out of the mixture completely - just wondering what affect that has on the final tincture? Good / Bad - Indifferent? Great Video by the way. I really like the press option!

@traviswheatley2921 Год назад

Absolutely loved your double extraction of Lion's Mane video. I am currently growing a batch from a kit and plan to follow this process when the time comes. I do have a couple of questions. Firstly, I am wondering about dosing. How much of he tincture is considered one dose? Also, I am wondering about using such a tincture in food or drink. Other than alcohol, which you covered in the video, will heat or other constituents in a recipe cause any issues?

@danielxmiller 2 года назад

Such a great video! Haven't seen this before but was always curious! Thank you :) I was wondering if there is a way after this to remove the alcohol completely? And then you can take it as a supplement powder instead of ingesting the alcohol as well?

@HerbNerdSchool 2 года назад

Yes! This is what extract powders are. I’m guessing you dehydrate or freeze dry. Never done it, out of my scope! Research it and let me know!!

@tenacioustinkerer7661 2 года назад

That would typically be done via a process called spray drying, where the liquid is atomized into a chamber and instantly dehydrated, falling as a powder.

@midbl 10 месяцев назад

Awesome video! Recently, I started to develop this curiosity for herbalism and alchemy/chemistry and it is SoOo amazing that I don’t have to pay anything for such information that you provided! Amazing details… Subscribed & Liked and Stored! You’re a pretty beautiful women… lol

@HerbNerdSchool 10 месяцев назад

Herbalism is life changing! Welcome 🤗

@midbl 10 месяцев назад

@@HerbNerdSchool Thank you 🤗

@strahinjamacesic3974 2 года назад

This was literally one of the best videos I hav eever seen in terms of contents. For someone who is a beginner in the world of herbalism, this brings quite an impressive note of seriousness to the tincture making tutorials because they are usually the DIY homesteading videos (also cool of course) and this is showing you the science behind the process thus raising the credibility of the video. Thank you very much. I have a quick question though. I have browsed the comments and noticed that the same can be done if we use the powdered mushroom rather than the fresh fruiting body except the ratio would be 1:5 (mushroom:alcohol). Am I correct? Also, once we have created the double-extracted tincture, may we dilute it even more just for the sake of practicality if we will use the droppers. (I don't mind shaking them :) ). How do we figure out what the dosage would need to be though? Thanks in advance.

@HerbNerdSchool 2 года назад

Hey, thanks for all of your kind words! You’re correct, dry herbs/fungus are all extracted typically at 1:5, although I’ve done them at 1:3 as well (more concentrated but better for bigger batches). Yes, if you keep it in the fridge you can dilute it further. Actually the more you dilute with your decoction, the more likely the polysaccharides will stay in solution, but keep it in the fridge and use it up as it will be more susceptible to mold.

@logiclab1 2 года назад

Great video. How long can the final product be stored in the fridge! Do you use Everclear or vodka or ... Thanks!

@HerbNerdSchool 2 года назад

@@logiclab1 you don’t have to store in the fridge, it contains alcohol and is shelf stable as long as your final etoh is 25% or higher. I use an organic cane alcohol for the organic alcohol company. It is 95% alcohol, and gets diluted down by the fresh mushroom and the decocted tea.

@tenacioustinkerer7661 2 года назад

Great video, thanks for uploading. Quick question - I see you are doing the 1:2 ratio as a measure of w/v instead of w/w, is this typical in this application? In my experience ratios are a function of like:like unless the procedure otherwise states. Since azeotropic alcohol has a 0.7 density the amount of alcohol used will vary quite a bit between weight and volume

@HerbNerdSchool 2 года назад

Good question. This is how I learned because it’s herb or fungus weight as a solid to volume solvent as a liquid. But milliliters and grans are so similar, you could totally get away with doing weight to weight, your outcome will still be the same. And then there’s alcohol density which I know nothing about! That will affect the hydrometer reading as well, right?

@LukeVoigt 3 года назад

Loved this breakdown. Best I’ve seen. Curious what you use for the material in between the press? Cheesecloth?

@HerbNerdSchool 3 года назад

Hey Luke, thanks for saying so! Cheesecloth is too porous, I use unbleached muslin. You can get it by the yard at your local fabric store, and cut it into squares, about 15x15 inch is usually good. Be sure to wash before use, and you can wash and reuse again and again!

@LukeVoigt 3 года назад

@@HerbNerdSchool thanks for your quick response! Love your energy, keep rocking :)

@Bv3276 Год назад

You did an amazing job breaking this down!!! Thank you so very much! I did have a few questions. Can you do this method with powders?

@HerbNerdSchool Год назад

Thank you for the awesome feedback! Yes, I work with powders a lot. They’re harder to press out though. They are also great for the percolation method.

@MoonShroomMan 2 года назад

this should be done in science classes

@HerbNerdSchool 2 года назад

Right?! Probably is somewhere

@gera8634u3 Год назад

Thanks for sharing such amazing video! Can i ask if the temperature of decoction have some limit or specific range?

@PrairieJournals Год назад

Is there any use for the pressed material? Could you dehydrate and put into gel caps for medicine or maybe add some to a soup base?

@jamesbarnett1009 10 месяцев назад

Wow this is absolutely amazing. I love how you broke the math down and made it so easy for us to make tinctures. These things are a crucial part of our Health due to what our corrupt government puts in our food. Thank you for the knowledge

@olgathehandmaid 9 месяцев назад

This is a great video. I have a question you may be able to help with! I'm searching for how to best utilize some mushroom powder I got from the company OM. We don't want to drink it (obviously, considering it's still in sealed bags uselessly), and I was hoping to make gummies out of it. Would making a tea, or tincture like this be best for processing the powder?

@panagNik 3 года назад

Your video is very thorought and informative. I was looking for info on how to process dried lion's mane mushroom that I was gifted with a while ago and was worried on how to do the dual extraction. Given that I have dried material available at the moment and no access to an alcohol hygrometer or a hydraulic press yet I was wondering if I could still do the dual extract. I was originally planning to do a 1:5 extraction on 95% alcohol with dried lion's mane and then boil the marc with water, possibly wait for enough water to evaporate and then and mix with the alcohol menstrum. Assuming that the menstrum would still be arround 95%vol (since no water would have been introduced from the dried mushroom) and not knowing that the polysacharides precipitate when the alcohol is above 35% I was originally thinkging of mixing the menstrum with the mushroom enriched water on a 1:1 ratio, aiming for a dual extract with around 40% - 47% alcohol. Right now I think I might be using your equation to achieve less alcohol and keep the polysacharides in the solution. I would also like to ask you some questions. 1) Do you have any experience dual extracting dried mushrooms? and if so how different would your approach be to the way you work with the fresh mushroom? 2) Any suggestions for people who do not have more advanced equipment yet (alcohol hydrometer, hydraulic press)? 3) I was aware that tinctures containing less than 40% alcohol have an increased chance of becoming spoiled (I might be misinformed thought). Do you treat 30% alcohol dual extracts differently than say 40+% alcohol tinctures when it comes to preserving them (i.e keep them in the fridge)? How much self life would a 30% alcohol dual extract have? Thanks in advance Keep up your wonderful and inspiring work!

@HerbNerdSchool 3 года назад

hello! I would be happy to talk all of this out with you. Email me for my hourly rate: HELLO@HERBNERD.COM

@joesucher Месяц назад

Excellent content. Thanks a lot. How long do you simmer the LM in hot water (at a max of 175 F degrees right)? Do you have to stir the preparation during the 4 hours?

@tombennett7722 Год назад

Hi, Liked the video very much, I would like to know if there is any goodness in the mushroom solid after the water decoction. I wondered could it be dried and made into powder, or just the compost. cheers Tom

@sequoialewien8063 3 года назад

Very clear and descriptive! It's interesting to hear that the polysaccharides aren't lost in a dual extraction where the alcohol % is too high, I've been struggling to find an answer to that. Just wondering what can you do to use the leftover mushroom solids at the end of the process?

@HerbNerdSchool 3 года назад

Yes, double extracts are the secret to capturing those polysaccharides! Once you’re done with the double extract, the mushroom material is void of nutrients so it’s pretty much compost...OR Here’s an fun article on making mushroom paper with your left over pulp: namyco.org/paper_from_fungi_basics.php

@madhur2k9 Год назад

@MushroomHobby Could you please share those readings with me? I'm very interested in this. Thanks!!

@lucindahudson8483 2 года назад

I loved this, I have just started studying herbal medicine and making tinctures and have been growing lionsmane for a while, so this was perfect for me...one question though - how did you press the alcohol to make the pancakes?

@HerbNerdSchool 2 года назад

Great question! I’ll hopefully be making them available on my website in the next couple of months but I use the Welles juice press, it’s awesome, and the cheapest thing out there if it’s kind Welles or Peoples Juice Press www.amazon.com/dp/B001ACDLX0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_MR30FY12KY3RNF68M7SG

@dalelane1948 7 месяцев назад

As a compounding pharmaceutical chemist I was very interested in this "dilution equation" and was rather disappointed to learn it didn't exist and you were simply balancing a normal solve for x. I could never teach others something that I know so little about, I would feel silly, like a fraud. You are very brave to do so.

@tylersathern1076 6 месяцев назад

If you are a Compounding Pharmaceutical Chemist, lend a hand here, what would an accurate "dilution equation" be for making the most effective tincture? Step up and help us all out please. We would love to hear some professionalism here. Ready, GO!!

@dalelane1948 6 месяцев назад

umm this magical "dilution equation" is just year 8 mathematics, I think they call it solve for x. Like "if you know a/b = x/c , given a,b & c what is x?". im sure a primary school teacher explains solve for x better but there's my attempt since you asked@@tylersathern1076

@user-je2xn4jy3b 4 месяца назад

You’re playing with semantics

@dalelane1948 4 месяца назад

thats ok, im not anti-semantic at all!@@user-je2xn4jy3b

@leahsilvia3624 2 года назад

Hi there, first of all I love this video so much! Thank you for sharing such great knowledge! I wanted to ask you how you pressure the mushrooms when you steianed it. What exactly was your process and tools used?

@HerbNerdSchool 2 года назад

Hi! I use a unbleached muslin cloth and a juice press. The best and most affordable option I’ve found is the Welles juice press. You can usually find them on eBay and Amazon: Welles or Peoples Juice Press www.amazon.com/dp/B001ACDLX0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_H671MGYDGN9NCHM7MPJ9?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

@Green-talk Год назад

I absolutely love your teaching style. I read all the comments hoping to find my answer. Is it better to use fresh marc for the decoction and tincture? Also, I couldn't figure out where you got the 800+ ML of liquid that you measured and added to your decoction. The liquid in the hydrometer? Where did it come from? (29.02 minutes) then you put the whole decoction into your tincture. I am lost. How do you know if you simmer enough of the water away when making your decoction. Thanks for this amazing video.

@dvscif5977 3 года назад

Great video, Colleen, ty! So, because my time is very limited now, and I am mostly only interested in LM's neurotrophic benefits right now, I was thinking of only performing the alcohol extraction (and maybe not even straining it). Any comments or suggestions? Ty.

@HerbNerdSchool 3 года назад

Fresh or dry mushroom?

@plu2601 Год назад

Which brand of hydrometer do you recommend? Thank you for the sharing your knowledge and the video!

@trobaughryan 2 года назад

Hey, Colleen. Thank you for the vid. I have been researching extractions and made a Reishi dual extract with glycerin. Would we be able to make a dual extract in one by letting the mushrooms sit in glycerin for the specified time then heat that up?

@HerbNerdSchool 2 года назад

Yes, glycerin is interchangeable with alcohol. In my experience, it’s best to keep the alcohol or glycerin high for the best extraction of the alcohol soluble constituents, and same with the water soluble constituents. In order to do it all at once, you’d have to have enough of each solvent which potentially dilutes them both.

@samanthamcnair7967 2 года назад

Wonderful tutorial! Like others have said, I didn't even realize it was a half hour long. Went by so quick and smoothly! Question! Since their is water in the mixture, what are the proper storing methods? Shelf life, ect? Can you just put it in a Mason jar and leave on a shelf, taking a spoonful here and there? Can tinctures spoil?

@HerbNerdSchool 2 года назад

Pretty much all tinctures have some amount of water content. As long as the final etoh is 25% or higher it is shelf stable and will last years without refrigeration.

@daviddickson8327 2 года назад

What a great video, so classy and informative I love your presentation. My geek alarm went wild when you mentioned polysaccharides are lipophilic! I have been experimenting with AruVedic oil extractions. Can you tell me more do you have any standard operating procedures for lipophilic extraction?

@HerbNerdSchool 2 года назад

Polysaccharides are lipoPHOBIC, they are not oil soluble. Hopefully I said that correctly in the video. If you are interested in doing a deeper dive into herbal remedies making, and specifically infused oil and lipophilic constituents, check out my upcoming Intro to Handmade Herbal Remedies course: www.herbnerd.com/intro-herbal-remedies-sales-page

@lukeraywithaj 10 месяцев назад

Thank you, very informative. Is there a reason you would pursue this method vs a soxhlet extraction (which would be faster and allow you to concentrate the extract)?

@HerbNerdSchool 10 месяцев назад

I’m unfamiliar, probably because this is a more accessible method for most folks

@basta153 2 года назад

Thx.💯👍💯

@staticGenerator4You 2 года назад

How do you determine a good daily dosage of the final product? Does the final mixture of alcohol and water extract offer the optimal amounts of both methods? What about keeping both extracts separate, then adding alcohol to just the water based as a preservative so you can dose it individually?

@HerbNerdSchool 2 года назад

2-3 mls two times a day. Yes, you could separate out the two, but I made this video to explain the process for making a double extract tincture.

@magorzatake924 Год назад

don't throw it away while everything is done, make vinegar from it :just add cool bolied sweet water ( 4 tbsp for 1 liter of water), cover with clean cloth and tie (protect from insects), stir once daliy with clean wooden spoon for about two weeks, after 3 weeks it's ready to use, it can stand for a long time

@hbwatermelon 10 месяцев назад

Thank you, love the knowledge share. I've been tincturing since 2020. I have encountered the slime you described when pressing the decoction and finally know what it is...polysaccharides! Should I be adding back a bit of the slime to the final product? Also, whated to pick your brain about shelf life. What % of alcohol is shelf stable? Thank you for this video!!!

@HerbNerdSchool 9 месяцев назад

25% is shelf stable. There should be plenty of polysaccharides left without you adding back in the slime 😊

@DTA-me3kv 2 года назад

You're amazing

@HerbNerdSchool 2 года назад

you are! also, if you're interested, we're offering an Intro to Handmade Herbal Remedies course available on our site, check it out! www.herbnerd.com/intro-herbal-remedies-sales-page

@zenwhispers 2 года назад

I love this, thank you. Question - if this is both heat and alcohol soluble, is there a reason you wouldn’t heat it in the alcohol solution (thinking of the way I make Rick Simpson’s oil). Thank you 🙏

@HerbNerdSchool 2 года назад

The polysaccharides are actually water soluble, the heat just speeds up the extraction time. Good thinking though!

@zeeh1758 Год назад

Fantastic video, thank you so much for creating and sharing it. Please let me know which press do you use and where can I buy it from ?

@HerbNerdSchool Год назад

Thanks! Sadly it’s no longer available…not sure what the deal is but I think the manufacturer stopped making it. www.amazon.com/Welles-Peoples-Juice-Samson-Brands/dp/B001ACDLX0

@arnoldasskulskis9276 2 года назад

Maybe it would be much easier to dehydrate lions mane for example in the oven for a while and we could skip hydrometer step? Also different levels of alcohol would be required for dried mushrooms because they lost most of the water? Correct me if im wrong. Preparing to make a tincture and trying to figure out the best way:)

@tristanbrandt3886 3 года назад

Thank you for the info! Is there a reason you started with fresh material instead of dehydrated mushroom? Seems you would avoid any alcohol dilution. Just curious

@HerbNerdSchool 3 года назад

Hi! I like working with both! I really love doing a percolation of dried powdered mushroom, but I still dilute my alcohol with water for dried mushrooms as their alcohol soluble constituents are best extracted in a hydroethanolic solution. I usually dilute the ethanol for dry mushroom to around 60/70% etoh.

@sarzorro 8 месяцев назад

This is so cool. Amazing video! I’m going to try making this. Two questions. How long does the final product last at room temperature and how long does the alcohol tincture last at room temperature. I’m assuming you store these at room temperature. also, is there any chance if you don’t get the alcohol proportions right that you can get food poisoning. Thank you for this wonderful video.

@momsmushroomsjodyfoster5786 2 года назад

Hi I'm wondering if my tinctures can be salvaged. I just got my hydrometer and used it to test my products. Only to discover the alcohol by volume is way too low :(( also the tinctures were made over a year ago and I'm wondering if they are ruined!! Ughh,...I'm so discouraged 😞 this is probably a silly question but, can alcohol be added to bring up the ABV? Thx for your excellent videos.

@ccamp5 Год назад

Thank you ! Very informative! Is there any use for the leftover lions mane after its extracted and pressed?

@HerbNerdSchool Год назад

Yes but its mostly void of anything nutritious.

@BrandonCase 2 года назад

Very nice instructional video. My only concern would be the pretty insignificant amount of mushroom material contained within the final product (pesky maths, dividing that original pound of mushrooms by 128oz, and again by the dropper volume). Bioavailability goes up through extraction, but I believe the clinical studies were also using extracted lions mane at a rate of several grams per day. If a dropper holds about 1/30th of an ounce, that’s effectively .1g of fruiting body per dose, thirty times less than in the studies. Which I believe is why most products have a final stage of significant concentration, lest the customer mostly be buying alcohol, water, and placebo. Anyhow, I’ll definitely be using some of your excellent methodology when I extract my mushrooms, although I’ll probably recapture the alcohol and concentrate down to a powder (pending further research). Thanks for the video!

@HerbNerdSchool 2 года назад

I really appreciate this perspective, traditional herbal medicine making techniques can certainly benefit from more modern extraction equipment. If/when you find an affordable way to dehydrate tincture at home please keep me in the loop!

@blenderbenderguy 2 года назад

I've considered distilling the final tincture but have no clue if anything is lost in the process besides ethanol and water. So I'd be curious also as to what your pending research turns up. Thanks!

@yousuckmorethanido 2 года назад

@@HerbNerdSchool can a 1:1 or 1:2 alcohol ratio be used on dried mushrooms and not a 1:5 on raw? this would probably 10x the concentration or is there a min alcohol concentration to use?

@BrandonCase 2 года назад

@@blenderbenderguy - You shouldn’t lose any of the heavier mushroom molecules. Plus, you get to recapture your alcohol if you’ve got a condenser hooked up, so it’s really a win win :)

@jimmcgarvey3855 Год назад

So Brandon, I think I get what you are saying; If I, for example, was interested in taking 3g of mushroom per day I would need to take 8.4ml of the tincture. Seems like a more concentrated tincture would be more efficient or cost effective. Do you think an extraction starting with dry mushroom as suggested below would work, and if so, do you have suggestions on changes to the rest of the ingredient volumes?

@scottjenkins2177 3 года назад

Hey Colleen! Great video. My question is for dried fruit. I’m assuming the ratio would be different for the tincture. Do you happen to know what that might be? thanks again for the great content.

@HerbNerdSchool 3 года назад

Hey Scott! Thanks for the feedback, and yes, typically herbalists do dried herbs/fruits/mushrooms etc at anywhere in the range of 1:3 to 1:5, 1:3 being more concentrated but giving you less yield. Just out of curiosity, what dried fruits are you wanting to extract using this method?

@t.j.6130 Год назад

Thanks for the video and detailed explanation. One question that came up was, why do you do the alcohol extract first, rather than the hot water extraction? I read that hot water extraction should come first to break the chitin walls, which the alcohol cannot break. Thanks!

@HerbNerdSchool Год назад

Yes you can absolutely do it in the reverse order

@ricknelson9422 2 года назад

Great Video, thanks for putting this together and sharing. Quick question, is the 30-35% alcohol content of the final tincture enough to keep it stable over long term storage (years)? Thanks! :)

@HerbNerdSchool 2 года назад

Yes it is 👍🏼

@oneqclub Год назад

after the decoction (which I assume one can drink?), do you throw the rest of the mushroom away or can it be used for cooking or something else? thanks