Against the Odds: Triskaidekaphile 🔵⚪🟢 Standard MTG Gameplay & Deck Tech | MTG Arena 

58:36 Big lol at you saying "Bad dragons"

It's confusing because sometimes it's a trigger you can respond to. I'm pretty sure most cards that win you the game in similar ways go on the stack and check for current life totals etc. then resolve.

@@vulcanh254 Most if not all "If" triggers just don't trigger if you don't meet the condition, then the trigger checks if it's still true (You know, in case you get hit by K-Command).

I for one was confused because I come from YuGiOh where the Standby Phase comes after the Draw Phase, and I keep forgetting that in Magic things untap during Upkeep BEFORE you get to draw in Draw Step.

Did you notice you won with 13 damage exactly?

Wrenn’s paired up with six and seven, 6+7=13, so his inclusion is kind of flavorful I guess?

lol

"If they kill both Triskaidekaphiles, I guess as punishment I'll kill them with these two 10/10s"

@@hugeheadliang wrenn = she

@@willgary8792 I'd think it's a little early to start imposing roles on it, don't you?

Is there anyway to keep those numbers always in view?

😂 Seth is the best

came for this

Wrenn's helpful like that.

@@MTGGoldfish 😂🤣 Nice set though. It was awesome to see you get it very first set.

Ha, I know. I mostly just like to joke about RU-vid yelling at me, I know it's all in love and it didn't bother me :)

@@MTGGoldfish you make magic fun, never change! Your videos always make my day better 🥰

Hah, the username is even that much better knowing your actual name! Gotta be one of the better pun names I've seen

A very fortunate coincidence

@Todd Packer except this time most standard cards sucked unlike eldraine

@Todd Packer Oko was far better it invalidated creatures and equipment, allowed you to heal and built a board presence by itself and there was busted goose+oko or goose+once upon a time and Oko lines that only mystical dispute, duress or noxious grasp could stop and then you had to deal with Nissa who shakes the world, wicked wolf with food backup and eventually late game hydroid krasis to refill. Wrenn is so much weaker and I doubt it will make waves in older formats, nissa who shakes the world is a better green planeswalker and doesn't see much play in older formats.

Oh, good call.

But then we wouldn't get to hear Seth count to 13 a billion times.

I feel like Menace is the most overlooked battlefield keyword these days. Maybe because it seems so much more common suddenly.

@@Kasaaz I would say reach.

Maybe. Wizards Class felt fine. Not sure exactly what to cut from it.

Enjoy!

It seemed likely that the opponent had removal (they were a super removal heavy deck), so I didn't think it was especially likely it would work that turn.

I think it was game one of match two something like twenty five minutes in it felt like you were over extending your hand again like you can win sooner if you just keep more cards in hand it felt like.

Agreed. Never scoop early.

Unfortunately there isn't a place to stop before your upkeep (untap happens first, but that's not a real phase in the sense that you can do anything during it), so there isn't a window to draw with Triskaidekaphile on your upkeep to get to 13 (you can draw on your upkeep, but the beginning of upkeep would already be past so it wouldn't trigger). Would be nice if it did work though, would make the Trisk win a lot easier.

@@MTGGoldfish Thanks for the explanation.

The lands come in tapped with the ability sadly, though it would be insane if they came in untapped

W&7's '0' ability says those lands come in tapped, so he couldn't use them to cast the other W&7 until the next turn

I hate lessons so much

He’s had plenty of practice with triskaidekaphobia decks

@Todd Packer had to look this up cause I didn’t realize it was a thing XD thought Seth was just making a mistake but now I see why

No cause the trigger activates only if you have the right number of cards

The trigger has an intervening if clause, so it won't go on the stack unless you already have 13 cards in your hand.

I don't see a spot where that would have mattered.

@@alexschlinkert5856 12:06 twelve cards in hand and triska on board, go full control draw a card during upkeep with the trigger on the stack and win

@@rnarose6813 that doesn't work how you think. Because of the intervening if clause, the trigger won't be put onto the stack unless you already have 13 cards in hand.

@HughesClues huh. the more you know 🌈

If you are thinking of drawing on upkeep, that doesn't work.

@@alexschlinkert5856 ah I see since the wording is "At the beginning of upkeep" so it had to be on the opponent's end step with 4 open mana

Not even close to true mate

The times you plus are when you don't have enough loyalty to do the thing you actually want to do or when you just need to have lands in hand, or non-lands in the bin. You only zero when you need landfall triggers or when you have 3+ lands in hand, and making a treefolk isn't better. You make a treefolk if you're behind on board, if your opponent controls a decent amount of flying power, if you're at parity on board, or if making the treefolk gives you a much faster clock on the opponent. You also make a treefolk if you expect your opponent will be able to answer Wrenn quickly without using creatures. I'd say this does account for probably about 95% of first turns with Wrenn. I'd say it's always correct to ultimate Wrenn if you can recast her afterwards, and usually correct even if you can't. I'd go so far as to say that the strongest Wrenn decks will try to have some synergy with every ability, playing only land ramp where possible, caring about landfall, playing Esika's chariot, and having someway to have no maximum handsize or gain value from discarding to handsize after an ultimate.

@@TheCardq Within the realms of mtg hyperbole, I consider 5% approximately 0%. But your breakdown is pretty damn accurate.

@@michaelmcphee2006 yeah 5% is infact approximately 0 for the purposes of RU-vid comment sections.

also he has a million mana available and forgets that the 13-phile also has a draw ability

When are you talking about that it would have been profitable for him to draw cards with it?

@@MstrKipper in the first matchup, Seth has a few near misses in which he has 12 cards in hand and was looking for a way to draw 1 more. Later in the video he figured out that 13phile also draws

@@kedros45 I don't actually see anywhere in the first match where that would have mattered though.

@@kedros45 that's not how the card works. The ability doesn't go on the stack unless you have 13 at the BEGINNING of the upkeep. There is nothing to respond to

Nope! The ability doesn't go on the stack unless the card sees that you have 13 in hand at the BEGINNING of the upkeep.

Because there already is one?

Easy: because you already have one on your deck.