When the Filmmakers Actually Understand the Gameplay 

I honestly didn’t think it was that great, lots of issues with the plot, the big twist is baffling dumb, and I never though Lucy’s arc was all that well done. As for the second question, I’m really looking forward to the Philippou brother’s Street Fighter movie, that’s gonna be awesome.

Naruto would be cool! Condense it by cutting a lot of the filler, focus on the intensity and intimacy with the combat. You know that surge of dopamine you get when a particularly complex set of ninjutsu is weaved by the ninja to culminate in their win? Focusing on the intense, by a hair's breadth, life and death combat without monologues would elevate the anime to it's next level. A.I. help will allow actors to do believable feats of strength and agility without ever having to leave their home.

I enjoyed it so far, But I’m already a loyal fan of the series and of the genre. I first played the original Interplay games in the early 2000s, when I was still in high school.

It's awful just like fallout 4 and 76, the only half-decent fallout game Bethesda ever made was fallout 3 and even that had huge problems. All of Bethesda's games have massively declined in quality since Emil Pagliarulo became head writer for Bethesda and that same terrible writing has infected the tv show and then you have Todd Howard directly involed who is clearly BIG envious of the original fallout series and ESPECIALLY New Vegas which was made very clear because he took every possible opportunity to shit on new vegas and OG fallout lore in this show! I mean hell, he blew up the NCR because 1) todds salty af that 1, 2 & new vegas are loved WAY more than any of the 'fallout' games he's made and 2) because Emil can't write to save his damn life so a completely desolate wastland is a lot easier for emil's 12yr old writing ability to work with rather than a post apocalyptic world that's back on it's feet again and rebuilding because god forbid that man has to rub some brain cells together and come up with actual creative storytelling... if you like this show you dont like fallout, if you like Bethesda's fan-fiction 'fallout' games then you don't like fallout, simple as. Fuck Bethesda and fuck this garbage show.

My favorite video game adaptation is the Netflix castlevania series the scene with the defeat of the priest in the season 1 finale is one of my favorite scenes in any piece of media

Similar cathartic was the scene where the plot-twist of the big scary vault 4 was... that they were good. After so many cliché "they are bad" it was so refreshing to finally have someone not be bad.

And totally something I would do in game.... Like I would hands down use NPCs as bait if I got the option.

I knew that he was using Lucy as bait. I just wasn't sure why he had to almost drown her to do so. I guess he's just a mean old man.

@@Gillsing New Nickname for the ghoul: Mean Mister Mustard.

@@Gillsinghe was hunting an aquatic animal that probably hunts via sound waves

I also think that was about the bug that was present in Fallout 76 with the player models 😅

It's totally accurate to how we tend to eat/drink in the games, aggressive chugging/wolfing things down quickly even mid fight XD

Also his walking style was based on “loser” animation from f1

The guy offering Lucy his house, "all this could be yours! ...you won't even have to wait long, I'll probably be dead soon!" really captured the Fallout vibe The bridge crossing later in season 1 though, where it's suspicious as hell and no one is honest is such a small yet tense moment that beautifully captured a moment that could totally happen in the Fallout games

or picking a dialogue option that doesnt do exactly what you thought it would do "sure you can have a sip of water" *npc drinks every drop* well ok then i guess

You drive that thing like a fuckin' shopping cart.

Ghoul is New Game+

I'm you, just give it a few years.

I totally see that plus it gives the characters a good dynamic especially since the players are usually nicer to newbies as long as they aren’t to toxic

@@levievil9220 Lol 98% of my fallout experience was solo single player games, not 76, so I was the only noob, and eventually the only old pro. It was a kind of nice feeling. Going from the only guy who doesn't know what's going on to being the only one who knows exactly what's going on and being nigh untouchable.

And the hacking minigame, I saw that and was absolutely giddy to seeing it

@@umokwhy2830 I actually whooped at that point, though I was hoping for the 3 tries and restart hack, that would have been the icing on the cake.

@@VeggieManUK "shit I messed up hold on let me reboot" That would have been too awesome

​@VeggieManUK knowing the character doing the hacking at that point it would have been better if he did the dummy code and refreshing tries from the hidden code strings in the hacks, spoofing his way to victory real quick

@@VeggieManUK didn't use the command for a free try?

when was this said?

you could even say "flowers are only flowers because they fall; thankfully, the wind." ;)

@@takeuchi5760 It's a quote from Age of Ultron, Vision talking to the last Ultron.

This show isn’t beautiful. It’s very ugly. I mean some of the visual and audio effects are nice but it’s a terribly written show.

@@bigideasthescholar Am I expected to be the first person to care for your opinion?

Glad to know other people had the same experience! I went to see it with my D&D group with literally 0 expectations and we were all pleasantly surprised at how fun it was.

@@Slewedleo Same😂

It definitely captured that feel of a gaggle of moderately competent morons just barely making it through by sheer audacity. It even ALTERED some stuff from the game in order to present a better story. I've talked with my other DnD friends about how they never had the Druid or the Bard casting any SPELL spells, because if they did it would have spoiled the Sorcerer's storyline. So they just let those two be awesome in different ways so the Sorcerer could have their own spotlight.

Fully agreed, you get the whole 'why should we be in a party' thing, you can see literal crits and fails happen, and sometimes the group just takes the most roundabout, complicated and over-the-top route to achieve a goal. Very enjoyable movie, reflecting the sentiments of real D&D sessions :)

Totally agree. It didn't feel like a "fantasy movie" but it felt like a GREAT "D&D movie"; which was hard to describe to my friends who didn't have any experience playing TTRPGs.

Well in Fallout 3 you can have dogmeat plus any companion. And in FNV you can have Rex plus any companion. You were originally supposed to be able to do the same in FO4, but it's cut content. There's actually voice lines for it. You can restore the feature with a mod.

@@Clos93 Yep, if you have modded multiple follower in Fallout 4 you will hear the Vault 81 security mentioned "But ma'am, what about his/her friend and the dog?". Giving the impression the devs do plan to implement having both dogmeat and one companion until final release was cut.

"in the games" you can have multiple companions, this crap about restricted to one is said only by people who came ro the series on third game. 1 and 2 allowed more and in fallout tactics u play a team of Brotherhood of Steel operatives and u can compose it of humans , synthetics, mutants, Ghouls, Deathclaws, etc.

@@galadballcrusher8182 you okay buddy? You know you don’t have to be a purist to enjoy a franchise right? Are you mad because the people who like what you like don’t like it in the same way that you do? I’m sorry if my statement bothered you but I don’t appreciate being gate kept. I grew up poor. We didn’t have a computer to play the original games. I was introduced to the franchise later in life but that doesn’t make my or anyone else’s experience with the games wrong or less just because we haven’t played every entry. I’m glad you know so much about fallout. We need people in the community who are passionate but please don’t attack others for loving the game differently than you do. Thanks.

@@BenjamenMcCauley for your info, i played several games coming half way through the franchise but made sure to play the previous ones too, my comment is based on some mentions i had by some people in some comments on fallout tv series reactions who very often mention 3 and 4 but actually diss the older ones because the graphics feel more antiquated to them. And imho 3 and 4 while looking more interactive or realistic in fps mode they loose aspects of the more tactical approach you can have in isometric. But see unlike 3 and 4 in 1 and 2 could have couple of companions and in Fallout Tactics a full fledged squad which made the game so much more tactical like when u resolve a hostage situation and use couple of your guys going mid range with auto rifles and a very good melee + shotguns guy with good stealth creep real close and at the point action starts shoot with the sniper the one with the detonator for the explosives while the rest take care of the ones heading closer to hostages and the melee + shotgun guy gets up behind a coverage defensive position the hostagetakers set up and keeps hostages safe.reminds me if the tactical aspect of games like the ufo series.

The cope...

Maybe not have played but at least they care about the game, the subject matter

@@InlandDiscoEmpire do you have a point to make, or is this just "TV show bad"

I almost makes you wonder how the hell they fucked the Halo Series so much.

@@Rayos_Catodicos Never forget that we could have had Niel Blomkamp directing a Halo movie along with Peter Jackson fresh out of LotR and Weta Workshops doing all the props and environments, but FOX was holding the IP and cancelled the whole thing because they didn't care about anything to do with sci-fi. We don't even have to speculate all that much on how good it could have been, just look at Halo: Landfall and District 9 to see what they did with the leftovers.

I will say it tries to be anti capitalist, when it's really anti corporo-fascist. Its funny how the wasteland is actually very free market capitalist.

@@hengineer are you saying that the wasteland is considered the standard for what the rest of the world should aspire to?

@@hengineer The wasteland is practically in a state of anarchy and in anarchy, the only possible economic system is a free market.

@@mikitz or in anarchy you can just steal and kill, which is not a free market and a free market can only exist under the stewardship and protection of a government.

@@hengineerThank you! Someone who understands what capitalism actually is, and isn’t.

make sure you tell this man that every real fallout fan is so grateful for this and is waiting for more eagerly, seriously. give them a thank you for me.

Yes please thank him. This show was such a treat.

This is one of my favorite games ever. I was skeptical going into this series but so happy with the execution. Please make sure he knows how thankful we are that he kept them on point.

Ask them how far they got in the writing so far this helps us guess the pace

Make sure he cooks on Season 2!

The first trailer I was hoping we'd see something like her journey turned out to be, and the clip in the second trailer that turned out to be her leaving the Super Duper Mart was when I got hyped.

Lucy fumbles her way out of every problem she encounters with pure luck. Her life gets saved repeatedly due to inexplicable coincidences and that goes for Maximus too.

@@bigideasthescholar well Maximus has a canonical luck of 10 and Lucy's is pretty high herself. Her stats are also impossible for a starting character in fallout 4, which seems to be what most of the lore has been pulled from, so while she doesn't have the experiences needed to not be a poor dumb vault dweller, she did do quite a bit of extracurriculars during her time in the vault, making her fairly formidable against the right opponent.

@@ABurntMuffin if these characters canonically have tons luck, how are there any stakes in the story? Why would I ever be scared that they would fail, or be defeated, or die? I find these type of characters incredibly annoying because I know that no matter what, they will always luck out of a negative situation with no consequences. It’s bad storytelling. Lucy is shown to be a bumbling idiot. Yes, there are times where she uses her skills, but those are far and a few between as luck as her main tool of getting out of situations. I found it infuriating that under circumstances that she should die or at least have negative consequences, she never does.

@@bigideasthescholar just because they can doesn't mean they will, but like, tell me, did you actually believe any of the main three would die from the vibe of even the trailers? Let alone episode 1. Nah. This is a power fantasy show, these characters are player characters on tv. This is not a Fallout 1 or 2 gritty tv show. It's not trying to be. You're not wrong, but it's just not the story they are trying to tell. Think of it more like a mystery. Nobody thought Sherlock Holmes would ever die. The thrill wasn't in thinking if he was going to get out, but how. Not if he was going to figure out the case, but HOW. And yet, *spoiler alert* when he throws himself and moriarty off the waterfall it SHOCKED people because it was such a change in tone. So, to reiterate, it still doesn't mean they won't kill anyone in the future. And hey, it might actually shock you. edit: You're really not wrong at all. And in a show that was TRYING to be gritty or have stakes in character deaths, even one that killed many main characters ala Game of Thrones, something like this WOULD be a major criticism worthy of trashing the writing whole cloth. But the only people who die get gibbed and explode and are nameless for the most part. And our named people, when they do die are either played as jokes (thinking of the doctor) or come across as extremely significant world moments (thinking of moldaver) and I don't think that by itself is objectively a writing sin.

Just say quality, that shit is lame

​@@michaelpacinus242 cry

@@johnnygreenface4195 you realize you’re the one crying because I bullied you and your friends, right?

@@michaelpacinus242 when was I bullied?

@@johnnygreenface4195 when you sided with the nerds on the matter of saying “qualia”

One minor correction! And I mean this in a loving way-Howard wore the T-45. He says this when he meets Bud Askins for the first time. In the show, they wear the T-60. In his final shootout scene he says, “There was only one problem…there was a flaw in the welding, just below the chest plate. I wonder if they fixed that in this NEW model.”

@@omni379 Yeah, my bad. Still the point mostly stays the same

This show was a disaster but let me illustrate this with a few questions. 1. Why did moldaver kill the residents of vault 33 when the show portrays her as someone who cares for other people’s wellbeing and who’s only real enemy is Vault Tech as well as cares very much for Rose and Rose’s children who she puts in considerable danger? Why didn’t she just quietly kidnap Hank after the sham wedding instead of slaughtering innocent people? 2. Why didn’t Vault 33 people think it was weird they didn’t recognize any of the Vault 32 people when they would’ve sent over relatives over the years and had been loose friends with them as well? 3. How did Vault 32 find out the truth and why did they kill each other/commit suicide when they discovered the truth? 4. How was Vault 32 cleaned up so quickly without Vault 33 residents noticing? 5. Why did moldaver just go get the head herself when she was in the neighborhood? 6. Why do the evil capitalists want to blow up the word? Wouldn’t they know that would decrease their resources, power, control, influence, monetary stability, comfort, freedom, and security? 7. How is Hank just able to nuke the New California Republic because he was made at his wife? Does every Vault Tech leader have this capability? 8. Why does Bud want to meet with Betty in person? And how can Bud not verify that it is Betty, instead of someone random like Norm? How are there no other defenses besides Bud for Vault 31? 9. Isn’t it lucky that Lucy runs into exactly what will lead her to her dad? Lucky that Maximus happens to pump into her exactly in time to save her from the ghoul? Lucky that she runs into Maximus just before she passes out from radiation poisoning? Lucky that when she loses a finger, she is taken to a place that replaces she finger immediately (for no reason because why give someone a replacement finger when you’re going to harvest their organs)? Lucky that she and Maximus run into one of the only places that can heal them and restock their resources in Vault 4 at their most desperate? And we haven’t even gotten to Maximus’s luck. 10. Isn’t it lucky that Maximus just so happens to get promoted after obviously intentionally wounding a brotherhood of steel? Lucky that his knight happens to be heading in the direction of Filly and then randomly wants to go kill something because he is bored when they happen to stumble across a Yau Guai’s den and attack only the knight enough to fatally wound him? Lucky that this also happens to be exactly where the target was that night? Lucky that the Ghoul doesn’t instantly kill him when we see the ghoul take out many knights very quickly in the final episode? Lucky that the raiders don’t kill him but shove him into the power armor in just the right way to squish the raider’s head? Lucky that the gulper vomited the head up instead of digesting it? Lucky that Lucy just so happened to come across Maximus while he was trapped in his power armor? Lucky that the two armed fiends are not able to take out Maximus who takes them out without dying? Lucky that the arrow pierced Thaddeus in the neck to learn that he is a ghoul in order for Thaddeus to give up the head? Lucky that afternoon lying to the brotherhood again, he gets promoted again? Lucky that he is in the exact position at the end of the movie to claim the ultimate victory for the brotherhood? Conclusion: yikes that’s bad.

Points #9 and #10- have you ever played a video game? That's what video game narratives do, dude.​@@bigideasthescholar

@@drmcfacekick8912 not good games. Characters aren’t just bailed out by luck. That’s bad storytelling.

@@bigideasthescholar 1. It looks a bit like Moldaver allied with a group of bandits to raid the vault and promised them a lot of fun. Although the series doesn't suggest anything like that. 3. I don't know because none of the characters checked it. Nobody investigated. Maybe someone overheard something or noticed something during the vault exchange. 4. Bud could unfreeze a few people for cleaning. They finished the job quickly and returned to the freezer. Although the series doesn't suggest anything like that. 5. The scientist was going to her, so why make a fuss. 6. They already had resources, power, control, influence, monetary stability, comfort, freedom, and security. They wanted more, they wanted to be creators of a new world. 8. The contact was made from a secured computer, which is some kind of verification. Another thing is that Bud is resourceful in corporate work, but in matters of life he is somewhat clumsy. 9/10. In games, things happen around the player. In Fallout 4, you have emergency calls by radio about someone being in trouble, and you arrive a week later and the enemy attack is taking place (it should have been over long ago). Did the game wait for the player to have an event? Yes, because the game is happening around him. Coincidences and serendipity are, in a sense, natural to game plots. These are my thoughts. I'm not defending the series at all costs because it's full of holes, but I also don't think that everything has to be handed to me on a platter.

@@raidolato 1. Moldaver slaughters innocent people for no reason, but at the end of the series, she is supposed to be the one who sacrificed everything for the good of humankind by giving them cold fusion. This is incompatible with the psychopathic mass murderer that she showed herself to be at the beginning of the series. It makes no sense that she would carry both of these qualities of being a psychopathic serial killer and an altruistic savior of humanity who brings unlimited resources to them. 3. That still doesn’t explain why they killed each other and committed suicide. 4. Exactly, the series doesn’t suggest anything like that. 5. Moldaver could have provided security for the scientist with the remaining raiders she had so that he didn’t have to die and she would be securing the thing that she wanted. It would not have been far out of the way and it only further ensures that she gets what she wants. The only reason that she does not take this course of action is because the plot needed it to happen this way. That is the only reason. 6. Yeah, and they got less resources, less power, less control, less influence, less monetary stability, less comfort, less freedom, and less security. They should’ve known this. 8. But, come on. You would think that Hank would have some sort of other security check to ensure that nobody just happened to wander over to vault 31 before Betsy did. Something like a camera or a particular password, or anything at all to verify that the person coming to vault 31 was Betsy before simply letting them in. 9/10. I don’t care, that is bad storytelling. Even in a video game, that is bad. Inconsistencies, contrivances, and major coincidences are all major examples of bad storytelling whether it is in a video game, movie, book, or TV show.

Not everything is about you. They want new fans who have not played the game to maximize the viewership. Americans need to stop thinking the world revolves around them

@@suzygirl1843 the hell does that mean?

@@philippelavoie9245 Meaning, I have never played the video games, I don't know what half the references mean so it's good thing that Amazon gives the OG fans 50% and new audiences like me 50% so that I don't feel lost.

@@suzygirl1843but then the fan/viewership they gained from such would not be an organic extension of the source material and thus fails the purpose of an adaptation which /should/ capture the qualia of the game at the very least

@TR-qf2gt Nerds, not everything is about you. GAMES are for you. Entertainment is for everyone. Stop gatekeeping, and let the artists do their job in spreading the I.P to newer audiences. The BIGGEST issue with fandoms is the greedy nerds who think nobody else is entitled to the fantasy/sci-fi stories spawned from a very niche market. Not everyone can afford to buy video games, tv series are the preferred mainstream distribution system

Literally just watched the show over the last days, to return to this bookmark.

did you like the show?

Arcane is a masterpiece

YES! Like, there's never any attempt to portray the "Top lane vs bottom lane vs jungle" or anything. It just took the pieces on the board, and wrote this masterful and compelling story around them. A counter point to your counter point would be the Warcraft movie. It was TRYING to do that, and it was honestly not as bad as some make it out to be, but it wasn't GOOD. It failed at providing a compelling enough independent story using the lore of the universe that it could stand apart from the stories of the lore or the joy of the gameplay that it left the game fans soured.

I think he almost explicitly didn't discuss Arcane here, as it is not in any way trying to replicate the game/ the story that the game tells. I would be very surprised if he doesn't like Arcane, but it is not at all involved in the discussion he is trying to have here.

But Arcane isn't an adaptation. At least not in the way described in the video. It is just IP that was turned into a show. The whole point of adaptation is that it is derivative, if you don't have connection to the original art, then it's just inspiration, not an adaptation.

What streaming service is it on? Prime or Netflix?

I felt that too when watching it, until the very end where the romance element felt forced. Nearly every party I've been in that has player on player romance usually backfires hard. Huge props for giving out the name Jarnathon as its the exact kinda name that someone would come up with on the fly.

Too bad it was based on 5th ed. D&D, which is trash.

Exactly. It explains why D&D remains popular 50 years later. It's *fun* .

This show was a disaster but let me illustrate this with a few questions. 1. Why did moldaver kill the residents of vault 33 when the show portrays her as someone who cares for other people’s wellbeing and who’s only real enemy is Vault Tech as well as cares very much for Rose and Rose’s children who she puts in considerable danger? Why didn’t she just quietly kidnap Hank after the sham wedding instead of slaughtering innocent people? 2. Why didn’t Vault 33 people think it was weird they didn’t recognize any of the Vault 32 people when they would’ve sent over relatives over the years and had been loose friends with them as well? 3. How did Vault 32 find out the truth and why did they kill each other/commit suicide when they discovered the truth? 4. How was Vault 32 cleaned up so quickly without Vault 33 residents noticing? 5. Why did moldaver just go get the head herself when she was in the neighborhood? 6. Why do the evil capitalists want to blow up the word? Wouldn’t they know that would decrease their resources, power, control, influence, monetary stability, comfort, freedom, and security? 7. How is Hank just able to nuke the New California Republic because he was made at his wife? Does every Vault Tech leader have this capability? 8. Why does Bud want to meet with Betty in person? And how can Bud not verify that it is Betty, instead of someone random like Norm? How are there no other defenses besides Bud for Vault 31? 9. Isn’t it lucky that Lucy runs into exactly what will lead her to her dad? Lucky that Maximus happens to pump into her exactly in time to save her from the ghoul? Lucky that she runs into Maximus just before she passes out from radiation poisoning? Lucky that when she loses a finger, she is taken to a place that replaces she finger immediately (for no reason because why give someone a replacement finger when you’re going to harvest their organs)? Lucky that she and Maximus run into one of the only places that can heal them and restock their resources in Vault 4 at their most desperate? And we haven’t even gotten to Maximus’s luck. 10. Isn’t it lucky that Maximus just so happens to get promoted after obviously intentionally wounding a brotherhood of steel? Lucky that his knight happens to be heading in the direction of Filly and then randomly wants to go kill something because he is bored when they happen to stumble across a Yau Guai’s den and attack only the knight enough to fatally wound him? Lucky that this also happens to be exactly where the target was that night? Lucky that the Ghoul doesn’t instantly kill him when we see the ghoul take out many knights very quickly in the final episode? Lucky that the raiders don’t kill him but shove him into the power armor in just the right way to squish the raider’s head? Lucky that the gulper vomited the head up instead of digesting it? Lucky that Lucy just so happened to come across Maximus while he was trapped in his power armor? Lucky that the two armed fiends are not able to take out Maximus who takes them out without dying? Lucky that the arrow pierced Thaddeus in the neck to learn that he is a ghoul in order for Thaddeus to give up the head? Lucky that afternoon lying to the brotherhood again, he gets promoted again? Lucky that he is in the exact position at the end of the movie to claim the ultimate victory for the brotherhood? Conclusion: yikes that’s bad.

@@bigideasthescholar 1a) hard to say for sure. But I would first posit that "not having a question answered is not inherently a flaw. 1b) If you have to insist on hypothesizing an answer, it's not a guarantee Moldaver knew the Vault 33 people were trustworthy. Maybe Hank has let them in on the Vault-Tec game or otherwise brain-washed them. Maybe her people are just too angry and want vengeance for Shady Sands and her command of them isn't secure enough to demand a bloodless victory. 2) The show makes it pretty clear the Vaults don't interact *in-person* all that often. Vault 31 being a giant cryo storage facility was successfully kept secret for 2 centuries. The 32 residents looking kinda funny isn't going to raise eyebrows if they haven't seen anyone from there in years or decades (and remember, there WAS a cover story about a crop blight, which would justify the lack of familiar faces) 3) See 1a. We don't know how they figured out. And honestly, we don't need to know. The only thing important to Norm's story is THAT they found out. 4) Vault 31 residents getting out of cryosleep. Maybe members of Bud's buds who were already in 33 took shifts to do it. Maybe Bud had protectron units in storage somewhere between the vaults for cleanup (and even security) purposes. Again, see 1a. How isn't even actually important. THAT it happened - and the weirdness of it serving as another clue to Norm that shit just isn't right in the 3-Vault alliance - is. 5) What are you even talking about? The only time we see Moldaver "in the neighborhood" is during the raid on 33. All available evidence is she goes back to the observatory after that to do whatever work goes into leading an NCR remnant faction. And I would remind you that Wilzig's head was still very much attached to his body at that time. 6) A bunch of detached ivory-tower weirdos who have more money than they know what to do with? Their bet is that the Vaults will give them enough comfort to ride out the chaos. And whatever's left after is "all" theirs. It's a hamfisted caricature of both capitalism and people - but if your critique is that humans aren't always logical actors, I would have to ask how many actual humans you've met. 7) Hank is explicitly called out as a member of an exclusive group of Vault-Tec employees that were kept on ice to lead the company (and prob. the world) after the war. And "b/c he was mad at his wife" is just his personal motive. The way he'd pitch it to any other committees/superiors is that their plan of having uncontested control of America/Earth is invalidated by the NCR's existence. Just another move to eliminate the competition. 8) If there's one thing rich elitists are good at, it's underestimating the common "clay of the earth" types. Vault-Tec never planned for the 32/33 peons both suspecting something was amiss AND successfully hacking their terminals (and Norm is pretty well established to be smarter than the average Vault Dweller). There was no security because there was no perceived need for security. Or is saying Bud had a character flaw - hubris - somehow bad writing? 9) It's an adaptation of a video game. Nothing you said here even scratches the surface of the absolute bullshit a high Luck stat can get you in any of the games. Also, this is a common theme in almost every piece of media - that fate tends to smile on protagonists. That's why they're the protagonist and not the 50 other people who died in a ditch sometime before the camera started rolling. 10) See #9. TL;DR: You need to learn to relax and like things. If you're this picky about every unanswered question, unexplored line of thought, and stroke of coincidence/good fortune in a tv show, you are never going to be able to cope with the real world (where things get left unsaid and people get lucky breaks ALL the fucking time for no apparent reason).

@@Hidden_Sage 1. “not having a question answered is not inherently a flaw.” I agree, but there should be possibilities of a logical explanation. “it's not a guarantee Moldaver knew the Vault 33 people were trustworthy.” So kill them all? I would simply suggest that she request to talk to him and pull him aside and then quietly kidnap him without the bloodshed. You don’t need the people from vault 33 to be trustworthy for this plan to come to fruition. “Maybe her people are just too angry and want vengeance for Shady Sands and her command of them isn't secure enough to demand a bloodless victory.” First, it seems like she has a very solid command of the raiders. Second, she still could have simply done what I suggest where Hank is secured and then let the raiders do their rampage, but Hank is completely unsecured and in danger the entire time the attack is commencing. He only survives because no one happened to kill him. 2. The show makes it pretty clear that the vaults exchange people approximately every three years, particularly for marriage. That means that there would be family members, cousins, and other friends that have gone to other vaults that people would look forward to seeing approximately every three years. Imagine if you only saw your cousins every three years. You would still recognize them as your cousins. And if they were missing from the family gathering, you would probably ask why they weren’t there. You would probably look forward to seeing old friends that you hadn’t seen in years and if they were missing, you would be pretty disappointed and wondering what was going on. “and remember, there WAS a cover story about a crop blight, which would justify the lack of familiar faces” No it would not. New fully grown adults don’t just magically populate in vaults. 3. Again, I agree. But they’re just needs to be a logical explanation which I don’t really see with the other factors that are in play. The other factors being that it does not explain why they decided to kill themselves and suicide one another without trying to reach out to Vault 33. It also doesn’t explain why despite radio silence from Vault 32 for two years, that Vault 33 never checked out how everyone was doing. 4. OK, so you would have to infer Betty discovered all of the corpses when she decided to wander over to vault 32 at some point. She would need to contact Bud that somebody needs to clean it up. And then you would have to infer that Bud unfroze people from vault 31 and told them that they needed to clean up some corpses. Then, once that is done, the people that he released need to be refrozen again. That’s a fine explanation, but you are doing the writing for the show runners. They didn’t write that. “How isn't even actually important.” It absolutely does matter. That is the job of writing. Writing is problem solving. The problem is how do I tell a good story. The solution is found in the writing. When writers give up on why something happened the way it did, that’s when you get bad stories like this one. 5. Exactly, she is very close by where Wilzig is passing through after the Vault 33 raid. This is based on the travel we see from Lucy. If Moldaver simply went to Filly with her band of raiders and waited where she knew Wilzig was going to go, then she would have secured literally everything she needed to accomplish her goals. 6. BUT WHY CAUSE THE CHAOS?!? It will limit you in every conceivable way. They gain absolutely no benefit from NUKING THE WORLD! They should be smart enough to know that nuking the world is incredibly disadvantageous for them. 7. That doesn’t really answer my question. I just wanna know why Hank is able to execute these insane capabilities on his whim. But this is only in the beginning of my questions on this topic. Is he able to launch nuclear weapons at a whim? Are other vault tech executives able to do the same? Wouldn’t another way to eliminate the competition be to nuke other executives and be king of the vaults? Were are these vaults operationally planned to launch nuclear warheads at a whim? And, if yes, then why? You already nuked the entire world! Why would you need more capabilities for firing off nuclear warheads? 8. The information that Bud is responsible for will literally destroy the vaults as he knows them and as they were intended. And based on what we need to infer about what happened to vault 32, he would want to ensure with every fiber of his maintained being to keep this information a secret. It makes sense to me that Bud would have a vested interest in maintaining the security of these secrets. This is not something that would be flippant about. If it had occurred to Bud to simply validate in any way that it wasn’t just some random person who is asking to enter into vault 31 which he has every incentive to do so, then Norman is screwed, and the secret is maintained. However, he doesn’t double check and he doesn’t because the show needs him to be retarded. Hubris does not explain a lack of security around guarding a secret that destroyed half of the civilization that you are trying to maintain. 9/10. A luck stat is stupid. The universe should not bend to the wheel of the protagonist just because they are the protagonist. “Also, this is a common theme in almost every piece of media - that fate tends to smile on protagonists.” I vehemently disagree with this. Most of my favorite movies have a protagonist that is incredibly unlucky. Let me ask you this, what is more satisfying in a story? A character who achieve something by pure luck or a character who achieves something through hard work, skill, and willpower to overcome obstacles that stand in the way of him and the achievement? Which character is more rewarding to follow and cheer on in there journey to achieving what they set out to achieve? I would also argue that, in any piece of media, the story gets better if the protagonist is under the same rules and nature of the world. and here’s the thing, luck is much more forgivable in a story if there are consequences that the characters actions. In fallout, the main three characters, but particularly Lucy and Maximus, receive almost no negative consequences despite being bumbling idiots throughout the series. And the negative consequences that they do receive are resolved very quickly which is absolutely infuriating to watch. “You need to learn to relax and like things.” -No, you need to stop relaxing on things like this.- Do you see how patronizing this sounds? Here’s the thing about unanswered questions, there are logical explanations that can answer those questions in the real world. I don’t even know what you’re trying to say with the unexplored line of thought. There is more than one stroke of coincidence/good fortune in this show. It is continuous and nonstop. It is nauseating the amount of luck that Maximus and Lucy possess. I mean, how can I be invested in characters that I come to realize will never be in any serious threat of any major negative consequences? How are there any stakes? We need to demand better from our media. There are plenty of absolutely wonderful examples for how to execute storytelling well. And if we praise this rubbish as gold, we’re just going to keep receiving the same garbage.

Do you think it’s because one media is interactive (games) and the other is interpassive (film)?

That's literally what an adaptation means.

What show/movie does it right?

@@laxett I believe that both what he and our video-essayist are pointing to is the extreme difficulty, though perhaps not impossibility, of adapting interactive gameplay for the interpassive screen (Lacan), compared to simply *basing* a film on the stories, characters, plot points, dialogues, etc. of the game, but NOT the feel of gameplay, just as one would do from other passive media such as literature. I’m surprised that no one has brought up _Bandersnatch_ yet, Netflix’ attempt from a couple years ago to adapt (not base) a “choose your own adventure” book to their streaming platform. I thought it was largely successful and interesting.

@@Loki- Fallout, according to this video

Being a space opera, Mass Effect is perfectly setup for endless stories that could go every which way. The problem is the highly restrictive timeframe if you want any humans in the story; consider that there are barely 30 years between the First Contact War and the Reaper Invasion. It won't help that for any player watching, the narrative will be underlined by the fact that everything's guaranteed to get blown up in a few years--meaning the writing has to work really hard to maintain the gravity of a personal story. Vega's story perfectly showed how an individualized arc can get obliterated against the backdrop of a galactic conflict. I've honestly felt that it was a bit of a waste that Bioware went with such a definitive conclusion, but Shepard was always a power fantasy so scaling it down would've been akin to regression. Of course, this will all change once ME5 finally solidifies a post-invasion canon. Depending on how it goes, we can even have the potential for non-Andromeda space western stories with the destruction of the relays. Then again, picking a pre-FCW setting is always possible--but humans are front and center in these kinds of things for a reason.

Agreed

I used to want a direct ME adaption into a show or movie, and then I wanted hollywood to stay the heck away, but now I see that if they do it like Fallout, where they treat it as a new game entry in the series (that's how Todd Howard says they approached the Fallout show) instead of a retread over old ground, I see it can be done really well, and complement what already exists.

Literally the first time I've ever seen "qualia" used in a youtube comment in 18 years

@@DolphLundgrensDolphinDungeonthese biggas all tryin to sound smart now that they learned this dumbass word from this Frenchman

What

I just deep thrpwted a damn Billy goat

If the other reply is a bot, that’s a new one. Also I agree

New vegas and fallout 2 but yeah.

@@johnnydjiurkopff True, I forgot to mention Fallout 2, which set the stage for most of the lore. Also Fallout1, striclty speaking, since most of the story takes place in Southern California.

@@johnnydjiurkopff you had sex?

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Seeing this comment at 8:17 EST on a Monday reminding me "Oh, he'll have a new video up!"

link?

@@rishabhrastogi17 Coming to Terms with the Last of Us: Part 2 - Complete Review and Analysis is the proper title

@@Turnoutburndown thank you. I've always just referred to it as what the Thumbnail says. 👌👌

I actually greatly enjoyed Battleship. I have no idea whey they tried to theme it to a basic board game.. but the movie is great and would have done a lot better if they had just named it something else.

@@waymire01 I liked it more than most people seemed to also. It has a fun script, Didn’t take itself too seriously, but was well paced, competently acted, and clicked most of my boxes for a summer blockbuster action film. Or maybe I’m just a sucker for naval warfare.

@@waymire01 I feel like Hollywood execs have two stacks, one of scripts and one of IP, and they just go along matching them up until they find something that nominally works.

I really liked the way the pegs became alien ordinance.

I like this film, too.

If Lucy ever happened to accidentally squeeze off a near-headshot when someone talks to her for too long, that would be an accurate depiction of me learning to take the right hand off the mouse and use the enter button instead.

That just sounds like a VR demo that would be fun to do once. I'm interested in hearing how you would make that enjoyable in multiple genres, repeatedly.

@@Loki- Well, that’s a good question. Hmm...

This actually exists, just not in VR due to safety reasons.

Lots of other adaptations did the same thing.

I mean, it depends on the game/ adaptation. Halo failed in part because it didn't understand that Master Chief is ALWAYS at his apex, period. When it took off his helmet and dragged him down into their plot, it broke what Master Chief was.

what I find interesting is I think we also see the main antagonist starting out as a rank noob. Maybe not the antagonist of the show, but I'd be willing to bet a driving force of the broader franchise.

This show was a disaster but let me illustrate this with a few questions. 1. Why did moldaver kill the residents of vault 33 when the show portrays her as someone who cares for other people’s wellbeing and who’s only real enemy is Vault Tech as well as cares very much for Rose and Rose’s children who she puts in considerable danger? Why didn’t she just quietly kidnap Hank after the sham wedding instead of slaughtering innocent people? 2. Why didn’t Vault 33 people think it was weird they didn’t recognize any of the Vault 32 people when they would’ve sent over relatives over the years and had been loose friends with them as well? 3. How did Vault 32 find out the truth and why did they kill each other/commit suicide when they discovered the truth? 4. How was Vault 32 cleaned up so quickly without Vault 33 residents noticing? 5. Why did moldaver just go get the head herself when she was in the neighborhood? 6. Why do the evil capitalists want to blow up the word? Wouldn’t they know that would decrease their resources, power, control, influence, monetary stability, comfort, freedom, and security? 7. How is Hank just able to nuke the New California Republic because he was made at his wife? Does every Vault Tech leader have this capability? 8. Why does Bud want to meet with Betty in person? And how can Bud not verify that it is Betty, instead of someone random like Norm? How are there no other defenses besides Bud for Vault 31? 9. Isn’t it lucky that Lucy runs into exactly what will lead her to her dad? Lucky that Maximus happens to pump into her exactly in time to save her from the ghoul? Lucky that she runs into Maximus just before she passes out from radiation poisoning? Lucky that when she loses a finger, she is taken to a place that replaces she finger immediately (for no reason because why give someone a replacement finger when you’re going to harvest their organs)? Lucky that she and Maximus run into one of the only places that can heal them and restock their resources in Vault 4 at their most desperate? And we haven’t even gotten to Maximus’s luck. 10. Isn’t it lucky that Maximus just so happens to get promoted after obviously intentionally wounding a brotherhood of steel? Lucky that his knight happens to be heading in the direction of Filly and then randomly wants to go kill something because he is bored when they happen to stumble across a Yau Guai’s den and attack only the knight enough to fatally wound him? Lucky that this also happens to be exactly where the target was that night? Lucky that the Ghoul doesn’t instantly kill him when we see the ghoul take out many knights very quickly in the final episode? Lucky that the raiders don’t kill him but shove him into the power armor in just the right way to squish the raider’s head? Lucky that the gulper vomited the head up instead of digesting it? Lucky that Lucy just so happened to come across Maximus while he was trapped in his power armor? Lucky that the two armed fiends are not able to take out Maximus who takes them out without dying? Lucky that the arrow pierced Thaddeus in the neck to learn that he is a ghoul in order for Thaddeus to give up the head? Lucky that afternoon lying to the brotherhood again, he gets promoted again? Lucky that he is in the exact position at the end of the movie to claim the ultimate victory for the brotherhood? Conclusion: yikes that’s bad.

The cope over this show is sad, it's fxcking trash lol.

@@bigideasthescholar Thank you.

Oh, brother. I didn't realize you raided the comments with this shit ​@@bigideasthescholar

The master didn't exist in Fallout TV show universe, but remember guys, they nailed it 100%

It´s often overlooked in discussions like this sadly.

@@petrfedor1851 A lot of people (myself included) watched the anime before playing the videogame. Also, I think it is because it was announced before the game even released. Like two or three months in advance, if my memory works. I emotionally feel that Cyberpunk 2077 is a good expansion of Edgerunners, even if I rationally know that I have it backwards.

Arcane, Edgerunners, and Fallout were adaptation I didn't expect, and for being reliant solemnly on world building and lore. I 1st thought most adaptations would be linear story driven games and add up the success of TLOU since it already had the essentials (mocap, pacing, cinematics, established characters, etc..)

Came here to mention Arcane specifically. Unbelievable masterpiece of a show.

Nice guesses, he mentions two. But here LSOO takes a much different, highly original theory that revolves around a kind of adaptation (but not simulation) of _gameplay._ Another commentator compared it to the difference between “basing” a film on a game instead of “adapting” a game to film.

@@ZargX76 No seriously! Its a marvel everytime I watch it. It makes no sense how they managed to make it so damn goof

That said, Arcane and Edgerunners do not appear as welcoming as they might truly be. People not invested in the games immediately perceive those as locked out to them. It would take knowing fans or watching a trusted online creator to tell them the door is open to them. I don't really agree that Last of Us is a good adaptation, but it does feel vastly more accessible on its cover than Arcane or Edgerunners.

Can the difference in opinion about “Mary’s Room,” or rather the debate about the ontological status of Qualia and it’s usefulness in knowledge/epistemology basically come down to the old debate between rationalism and empiricism? Another example that popped into mind would be a male OB/GYN. He has no access to the “qualia” of pregnancy, assuming that it exists, but can make knowledge-claims and truth-claims about pregnancy and child birth with far more authority than a pregnant woman who has never studied the subject (which is why he can make a living as a Doctor). Does a Doctor who has experienced pregnancy and childbirth first-hand have any privileged-access to knowledge when it comes to helping someone else through their pregnancy, assuming that she was taught the exact same things as her male counterpart in medical school? I personally tend to say no, because I don’t believe that any further information can be obtained through “Qualia” in this hypothetical. All of the information is arrived at through reasoning, pedagogy, and _learned experience as a doctor; NOT as a patient._ (Sorry, philosophy is a hobby of mine!)

⁠Two things. 1) Actually, a doctor who has personally experienced what their patient seeks treatment for is more likely to able to treat them effectively. They will be more likely to be able to recognise and take seriously any unexpected data from the patient, for instance, rather than brush it off. They will be better able to communicate what the patient should expect to experience and what would be concerning. They may have a better bedside manner. 2) Knowledge-claims are not the same thing as knowledge - this is an old and well-trod distinction in philosophy and communication, the difference between know-that and know-how, and observed in practice. Institutional knowledge is lost when a mentor writes down everything they know for an apprentice to read on their own, versus when they are able to observe and correct. Governmental decisions made without the input of people who will be affected by them become disastrous. Flight simulators exist, and pilots are required to have mandatory minimum hours in them before being allowed in the cockpit. The fact that some knowledge is not as easily communicated verbally proves that not all knowledge is verbal. Hearsay is necessarily less valuable than eyewitness reports.

@@noatrope Thank you so much for your thoughtful response! I agree with most of what you said actually, I didn’t mean to imply that Qualia isn’t a potentially powerful tool towards gaining knowledge outside of pure Abstraction or Reason alone. Maybe an example of it which doesn’t involve human experience as the subject of investigation would’ve made for a better example? Something like gaining knowledge of how far an object will fly if thrown by a machine, by using Reason (Fluid dynamics, trigonometry, physics, etc) vs. throwing the object oneself, observing the mechanism or object being used, or observing the event itself; which is _not_ to say that _some_ knowledge cannot be gained by, say, the Qualia of throwing the object first-hand, or of observing it being thrown, but only that it’s seems comparatively infinitesimal when attempting to calculate for things like the trajectory, velocity, speed, and resting position of the object. I suppose that my main question is this: Does the debate over the existence (or perhaps importance is the better word?) of Qualia fall along the lines of the debate between Rationalism (the use of Reason to gain knowledge about a thing) and Empiricism (the use of sensory inputs or sense-experience to gain knowledge about a thing)? I want to make sure that I’m understanding both the theory and the debate correctly.

@@dethkon I consider myself very ignorant, so feel free to ignore this if you can't tolerate how dumb this line of thought is xD And English is not my first language, so apologies for the mistakes. Very few people ask themselves (because that is not really what Jackson is asking you, even if I consider it more interesting) why Mary even cared about the theory of color to begin with? My answer to that, is perhaps to convince herself that everything was alright while being trapped in that room, even if the concept _trapped_ wasn't something she really understood... or that _color_ was related to her being there. And that would be qualia already: the understanding that something is wrong even if you can't explain why, just based on sensation alone. About your mathematic example... _It was because the apple fell, that he wondered why._ _Why apples always fall straight to the ground instead of other directions?_ I never saw it (and maybe I am completely wrong on that) as which one is more _efficient_ at transmiting knowledge. But that without qualia, there is no rational knowledge to be had from the start: you won't bother to translate that qualia=feelings to another language=logic. If you recite a bunch of mathematic formulas to me while walking under the Tower of Pisa, my question will be: _why are you telling me this?_ The answer is probably: _because I care about that stuff_ Then I will say: _oh, cool_ I don't have a qualia of being scared of the building falling on top of me, to bother to learn why is not doing it. And I will forget what you were saying in a minute, because I don't care. I hope I conveyed what I tried to say properly, even if it was something dumb that again, you are free to ignore xD

You people are ruining our IPs.

FALLOUT does not capture the themses of the games AT ALL.

If you haven't already watched the Fallout series, I think you'd really like it for this very reason. It's not all easter eggs and inside references with a plot like which assume you are familiar with the lore. By making one of the characters a "starting characte4r" in game terms, the show introduces the viewer to the story in exactly the same way a game does. (which also reinforces the qualia of the show vis a vis the game). I've never played a Fallout game myself. The closest I've ever come is watching my son play, but the show does an awesome job of drawing even non-players into the story.

​@@hgman3920 I think the problem remains that most video game stories aren't very good. And I love Fallout, especially New Vegas, but I don't play these games for the story, not the main quest specifically, but to be immersed in a world and the characters and to shape both with my actions. This can't be replicated in a series or movie. And the point stands that there are not many stories in video games that are realy on par with great books or movies. Some indies come to mind (Disco Elysium, Undertale, The cat lady), but most stories don't hold up on their own.

@hgman3920 Thanks! I'll check into this series. I really hope this one's different from the ones I'm familiar with cuz there are lots of really cool games out there I think I'd really like to watch a movie about, but then I sorta get lost in all the stuff I don't know. If this series is different & gers it right, I hope other games follow their example with their own movies from now on. Here's hoping!

Lol no he does not

I've never heard the term before this video. Is there anything I could look up that would describe it in more detail? Bonus points if you can tell me what he got wrong with it. I love little bits of trivia like this.

@@brewdaly1873 Qualia refers to something that can be felt but can't be explained, like you can't explain to a color-blind person what blue looks like, that's how blue is qualia. But playing a game pretty much can be explained, in fact the video suggests that's what the movie successfully did. Qualia refers to sounds, tastes, colors, not something complex.

@@XOPOIIIO huh, very interesting. That's something that's always been very interesting to me, how we really are incapable of truly describing basic things, like we have no way of knowing if how I see the color blue is the same as for you see it. I appreciate the insight, thanks!

What internal inconsistencies did you find?

@@Lzyboy49did you even watch episode 1 😂

What Fallout games did you play where the jokes were ever unexpected or rare? Every single game, back to the first, is firmly tongue in cheek the entire way through. All of Fallout is jokes with occasional seriousness sprinkled in.

@@pedrobettt EVERY FALLOUT!? Yeah, you normies have ruined this series COMPLETELY.

​@@InlandDiscoEmpire Don't be stupid. Fallout 1 and 2 had Monty Python references, don't you be spouting any of that nonsense about the first two games not having funny stuff in em.

Normies have ruined EVERYTHING.

True.

Based

Fallout 2 did that to itself. You guys need to get over the fact that your idea of what a cRPG from 1997 was like is the end-all be-all of Fallout.

Talking about the story, not the genre of the game. The world of Fallout is very big, and they can do so much more with it. I just question myself, why keep focusing on a specific plot in the story that has already been solved, many times before.

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Except no they didn't lol. The cope over this show is sad, it's fxcking trash lol.