Air Gun Spring Upgrade! the quest for FPS! 

where can i buy a stronger spring?

Your method of assembling mainspring is definitely ingenious.

this was one of the most enjoyable vids i have watched on tweaking air rifles , and has helped me gain a little more confidence to have a go on my own rifle as and when i need to GREAT JOB thanks for taking the time to share this , stay good from uk .

“throw it in the spring compressor” **does it with bare hands, pliers, and a flathead**

Excellent idea making the spring compressor. Makes the job alot easier 👍

This is exactly what i was looking for. Thanks a lot

Just for balance of course… Many years ago a friend of mine, whilst putting an Ox in his Hw35 got the breech block cross threaded. He brought it over so we could mount it in my jig and hopefully resurrect the situation. Well..couldn’t get it out so I held the breech tight with a leather gauntlet, while he twisted. Some you guys will know that the HW spring carrier is roughly cut and splayed out in a cross shape - remember the roughly cut bit, it’s important. Yep..we twisted..something thudded onto my thumb and the spring went airborne. The first sign of trouble was that there didn’t seem to be a proper thumb in the thumb of the gauntlet any more. There was a neat “v” shaped cut in the leather where my thumb should have been. The spring carrier went through the leather, hit the top of the base of my thumb, went through down to the bone and dislocated it so it was laying next to my wrist. One surgery and plenty of ribbing later, all was good. Still got my Venom arms HW 77k, must be 35years old and I’d still rather hunt with it than use my pre charged rifles.

Make two short pins the size of the trigger group so that you can push out the long pins and leave the two short ones in place to keep the trigger group all in line and it makes assembly a doddle as everything is held in place and the safety simply slides in again no problems I made mine from brass rod and they are a godsend for servicing the rifle. The video is great and the results are very good you are doing a great job. And Nice to see someone actually doing things the safe way. Keep on keeping on stay safe from the UK.

thank you sir I learned again about the length and the diameter of the Main Spring less 2.3 !!!

Moronic how the govts of certain countries see these as Firearms .In the 70s we have 20 ft lb air rifles .The one and only reason the 12 ftlb rule came in was to protect the British air rifle makers as they could not compete with the HW german make. Treating adults like kids is moronic

I have a cheap B2 Chinese. 22 air rifle that the spring got weak after couple of years. So bought a vortek spring for the rifle same length as the old one played hell getting the new one in. And cocking was hard also. So I cut the new spring down a couple of coils and flatten and polish the end. That rifle shoots 10 time better then when I first bought new awesome now. I even got one of their moly seal for that rifle even better. Vortek Inc. make great products for your air rifles American made from Michigan. More fps dose not mean better accuracy that's what you want accuracy with the right fps. And the right pellets also. Good luck bud.

That's a huge clamp you've got there mate😄😄

Man what a good video....I was really impressed with the gun vice may steal your idea its perfect!!!!

Another Great video. Thank you so much.

They have these things now, they're called 'workbenches',..or something like that...

Great video thanks, u made a Perfect spring compressor, I’m gonna make one 👍

Outstanding!👍👍👍

Like your gun jig,im making one of those bad boys. Will make it loads easier 👍

The space of the compressed spring is already determined so that it engages, what is your idea? Buy an equal spring but of better quality. greetings

very satisfied with this product

We jus need the lil table u have for sale ?? 😂😂

Love it

It's not just me who wants to make things more powerful than they are intended lol 😆

Dude.... thank you!

What brand of pellet rifle is that dude ? Never seen one exactly like it. Great work on that spring compressor. That comes in handy for sure. Great work thanks for the video dude.

Hi, I am about ready to change my spring - but I don't have a spring compressor or the means to make the version you use (I saw your video on how to make it and it is very good, it's just not something I can make at the moment). Is there a way to do this without a compressor? Ie by putting pressure yourself on the spring using the flat head of a file etc? I know it won't be as easy or as safe, but is there a way? Thanks!

Awesome tutorial, thanks!

Should use a nitro piston spring with a 5/16 shaft and piston should be 155 mm long

Please can you tell me is the new spring longer and or stiffer than the original one in the rifle .thanks

Hi - this was such a useful video - thank you. I just have a few questions if you don't mind - a) what's the name of that flat-lying vice-like thing with the screw adjuster clamped to the end? (The thing you put the barrel in to work on)? B) I see you ordered the spring cut to 34 coils, but you said you realised you had to cut a couple more off. How were you able to tell that, and to know how much to cut off? (I ask so that I'll know when i do the same thing) C) you mention something about "locking" the screws at the end- do you mean using "thread lock" liquid? D) I'm going to order from the website you linked, specifying at 34 coils - the 142 Wire Spring 830OD. Will this spring fit most springer makes and models, or only certain ones? I have a variety of springers so would be good to know if it could work with any of them. Cheers!

Happy new years Ryan. Would you have any links or know who could mod my webley tracker. Thanks from Vancouver Island.

Wowww... top gun.. greetings one hobby friend. let's drink coffee together☕🍵👈

Hi mate- from the catalogue you link, there is a "148 Wire Spring 905 OD". I've figured out this means Outer Diameter is 0.905 inches = 22.5mm. What I don't understand is the "148". Is this the strength/ thickness of the wire itself? If so, is 148 a good standard to stick to? Cheers!

Nice vid 👍

Flatten both ends of the spring, grind flat then polish to a mirror finish. Hope this helps you

Great video man. Can you attempt this on a gamo speedster? to uprate the spring for more ft/lbs and fps? Cheers

Before anyone complains about this video please remember it was made for “scientifical” reasons 😂

Just to let you know, your spring end is not finished correctly , you should heat it up with a blow lamp then when it gets red pinche the top coil so its inline with the coil unneath it pointed nose pliers then let it cool down naturally before placing it back into the action.

Can these springs go in red ryders?

Peter Gore Seer, There Are Some Fantastic Springs Sold, Oval Shaped Springs. There Are Some Guns With Barrels Bent.

I've heard that an alternative way to add potential energy to your existing spring is to stretch out each coil slightly - so that the entire spring becomes marginally longer, and so when it is compressed it holds more potential energy - is this true? Cheers!

Is it an umarex ruger hawk air rifle?I just got one myself today,if it's the same model,I can just apply the spring size you use to mine

Hi friend, where did you get the new spring from? Thanks I am in Canada too.

That is the only other gun like that i have ever seen...that is the same as mine...is that a spa xt208

you think it possible to 3d print a spacer to insert into the airgun to get higher fps whit the same spring?

How do we consider a stronger spring for upgrade? Is it longer, harder, or thicker than the original? Thanks.

Should have bought yourself a table before the spring 😂

I had a crossman phantom . 22 500fps pellet gun from Walmart 99cad. I ordered a spring from vortek air springs... Brought it up to 1200 fps lol couldn't even keep a scope on it without a stop... Fuck it had some power... The spring was 12 bucks and like 30 to ship it to Canada lol well worth it

I have a 7,5 joule umarex .177 air gun and i want to mod it, what do you suggest? Like lubing the piston or what spring should i get, Thanks🙏

Hi , nice job , how much did you gain and where did you get your spring from .

So, how many FPS was it before? Wish you had a before and after on this gun.

Wow some countries have super lame airgun laws.

Please take care if you don't have a Chrono or an FAC as if you get caught with a gun over 12 ft lbs the punishment is 5 years in prison no excuses not knowing the power is no excuse

I used to do this when I was ten I used my weight to compress the spring and tap the pin out easy you don't need jigs and clamps crappy tools

How would you s screw the end cap back on say if it was a hw 80 with it being under pressure

Any tips for improving the fps on the glock 17 bb gun gen 3?

Power is nothing without accuracy, what are your groups like at say 30 yards, ?

What I am interested in is how harsh is the recoil and what is accuracy like now?

I have a Air Hawk Elite one pump pellet rifle the ball that rode on the barrel that helped cock it came off in the spring came out but the ball fell down in the barrel

What makes a spring stronger, the thickness or the number of the coils?

What increase in fps did you get? You never showed the results - only the final result. Was it worth it?

Man u did what soo many wish 2 do ..Time constraints..😔 Life i$ more than cha$ing money 1🤫

Just found your vid timely. Opened up my Benjamin Classic 22 to see what is up. Chrono showing 426. Not much preload in the spring as I put a little pressure on cylinder the main support pin fell out... Gets better, Piston needed to be forced out using a probe to slide out of sleeve. Found scrubbing on the piston and ID of sleeve. Seal had metal filings embedded in it. Got pics to prove it. Removed spring and found one end squared of and reasonable smooth, However the other end appeared to be hacked off with bolt cutters and not squared or cleaned up. On the end of piston, seal end, there is a small hole drilled through not centered, not done obviously on a lathe...Metal chips.... Got some work to do but need, to replace the seal and spring for sure after I calculate an appropriate length. Then lotsa polishing and lube. If this is how they "detune" for CA Market am not impressed. Bought this brand new and wasn't cheap at that time. Wish me luck cuz, skill is no problem here. Am not on the Quest for more FPS, just what I paid for. Just subbed and liked.

Hi I have crossman .177 it’s not getting the pellets out , I have to shoot about 7 times before the pellet comes out, some debris is coming out, do you know how to fix it, thanks

The only problem with fitting a stronger spring is that it makes it harder to hit the target to much kick back

Try all copper pellets...expensive af...but they're light and retain their shape on impact...they do like 5x the damage....i used to shoot them into a block of wood , pick them out and shoot them again

Found an older one than this in my dad's stuff.....he died a few years ago. Would love to have someone that knows what they're doing to fix mine. I tried some new pellets and it's not working. The pellet basically just drips/falls out of the barrel. Know anyone in western NC that may know how to fix it. I took it to a local gun shop and they wouldn't look at it.

I wonder how much dieseling would increasing fps with this setup.

How much increase in velocity??Thanks

Can I put a stronger spring on a youth break barrel

Hey Where can I order a spring for my gamo varmint air gun in Canada ???

where did you get the springs and upgrades

If you don’t have a pal license and make a 495 fps into something over 500 fps would that be illegal?

Where did you get the spring from?

Are the springs same in .22 and .177 Cali guns

Can .22 spring be put in .177 rifle?

Looks like a pain in the ass. I'd pay you to do it but im in London Ont. Canada eh.

Ryan, I have a Ruger Air Hawk .177 and would like to fit a moderator to help make it more backyard friendly. Any ideas?

I CAN`T BELIEVE YOU DIDN`T TAKE THE PISTON OUT. POLISH IT AND PUT A NEW SEAL ON IT AND LUB IT UP FOR REASSEMBLE.

No Lube ?

what kind of fish do you have?

I guess with crappy tools comes a crappy workbench. LOL

did you try drilling holes in your piston to get it lighter AND MORE FPS

can we use .25 spring to .177 air gun to improve for power and fps

No front spring guide..... 😮

500 fps limit? Sounds like everyone wouldn't be able to get anything more than a multi pump air pistol.

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Is the gun a .22 or .177?

how much fps gain? justin trudue is a pain in the butt, so i was wonder how much my crossman 1377 can gain.

Upgrading a spring or modifying one is illegal

Qué calibre es 4.5 Ho 5.5

air riffle classified as a firearm, that's ludicrous, they can't come close to the velocity of a projectile fired by ignited propellant, not to mention the dinky size and weight of a 177 or even a .22 pellet, they are no way near the mass of an actual bullet, you can do more damage with a sling shot.....

you didnt tell us the speed before

Bro you need a work bench

I saw a video where the guy put some vaseline in the pellets and he gained alot of velocity. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AVVQxbRa8DM.html (9:50).

Increase tube and piston to dramatically increase ft/lbs per square inch.

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