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Alexa Nikolas, Drake Bell, Christy Carlson Romano, and why I can't stomach Eat Predators 

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this is a nuanced look at Eat Predators, an activist organization/youtube channel founded by Alexa Nikolas, and what I perceive as some of its shortcomings, including the fixation on "apology activism" and the forgiveness campaign for Drake Bell.
My usage of clips from Eat Predators daily falls under "fair use" and it is not defamatory to hold activists to account for what they advocate for and the ways they do it. I do not discredit Alexa as a survivor for what she has lived through with her ex husband, with nickelodeon, with Dan Schneider, or with any other allegations she has made. I do, however, find something insidious about her brand of activism, and after she was able to distance herself so far from Christy Carlson Romano regarding their fight about Corey Feldman's episode of Vulnerable, the decision to like all of Drake Bell's posts and platform him so hard struck me as impossible to ignore. This is a feminist analysis and critique, and though it is meant to be constructive it is not meant to directly address Alexa or to ask for a response from her.
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@annecycornchip
@annecycornchip 5 месяцев назад
im a former mod/staff/volunteer of EP (we became friends in 2022 over instagram and EP started a few months later) and in February destroyed my best friends and also my own mental health (actually for my friend it started sooner). several other survivors at the same time and in the past also had similar situations and were harmed by how she treated them especially by the guess who things. all these people she keeps “exposing” in those videos are people who don’t have the platform to defend themselves and in turn they (p much all of them are survivors) have experienced horrific bullying from hee fans. i had to check myself into inpatient as a result of her and basically lost my job because of that. most of the time i had concerns that I voiced to other members or friends who’d become fans of hers starting in November 2022 I got shut down and/or talked out of them. I’m a survivor myself of someone in the industry and EP seemed like everything I’d been searching for - a community of survivors who understood the experience of dealing w someone we can’t escape seeing celebrated who has fans that attacked some of us for speaking up. And yet i walked away from EP with more trauma that im still coping with. there’s no one with credentials or who has been thoroughly trained in abuse advocacy mediating the group. it’s extremely disorganized and so many people have been harmed because of it. It’s devastating bc the visions for it were such good ideas in theory but they are executed poorly and have turned activism into a McDonald’s-like novelty. I really hope she will take accountability eventually and learn how to break the cycle because those are two things she preaches about yet hasn’t shown that she has the ability to do those very things.
@ophie-dokie
@ophie-dokie 5 месяцев назад
hi, thank you so much for reaching out!!! I think the mcdonalds comparison is so incredibly astute as far as what she's doing here. I'm so sorry to hear about your experience with EP especially when it seemed like something that would be so helpful at first. I really do feel so miserable for everyone who was invested in Eat Predators when it looked like it was about having solidarity with other survivors on so much more of a broad scale. Part of me thinks the focus on nick was inevitable but it could have been so much more partial than what it ended up being if she had cared about keeping up with what other survivors had gathered for in the first place, but Nick is shiny and special and I think most importantly something that she deems as even moreso "hers" than having an abuser in the music industry. In a way I sort of think that she must have not liked organizing with other people who had such similar trauma because it made it harder for her to be the main character, and there's absolutely no question of who is the main character if Eat Predators is all about the time she used to be on Nick. (the reaction to Angelique Bates telling a story about abuse so severe CPS was called and Alexa not even hesitating before being like "Wow this sounds like what I went through" proves that theres not even like... an understanding of different levels of harm when it comes to platforming the nick stuff. it's black and white "bad things happened at nick" -> "Alexa had bad things happen at nick" -> everything that happened at nick might as well have happened to Alexa -> let's sell $45 tee shirts everyone who feels sorry for alexa for going through everything bad that happened at Nick can buy.) It's such a letdown to see it not even just be ineffective but actively contribute to bullying and mobbing other survivors, and for it to be doing all of that while she's so singlemindedly focused on the Drake Bell defense train is even more disappointing. I care a lot more about the wellbeing of survivors who don't have whatever big PR funding Drake Bell obviously has right now, and she does not seem to, at all. Again I really, really appreciate you reaching out, this video took a lot of research and I was a bit afraid that I was going to be misrepresenting something from not being directly there, but it sounds like Alexa's actions are consistent enough for me to have gotten a good read on even if they're not actions I find understandable or necessarily forgivable.
@annecycornchip
@annecycornchip 5 месяцев назад
@@ophie-dokie thanks for responding. regarding the nick protests that’s something people were pointing out for a long time since 2022. she heavily focuses on call outs, protests or discussions about abusers tied to her own experience. Nickelodeon, her abuser Rhye, diplo who is best friends with her abuser, the lawyer who represents rhye, the record labels that put out rhyes music etc. i think these people and places should be called out but i feel like they take up at least half of Alexa’s focus. so sometimes it felt like it should be called eat Alexa’s predators and not eat predators. Or with the drake bell and Trisha paytas and megyn kelly stuff it’s like eat predators unless they’re your friends or people who can get you clout.
@juliethache2903
@juliethache2903 5 месяцев назад
@annecycornchip I am glad to see you on the internet again! ❤️ You don't know me at all I was just a member of Eat Predators who left in solidarity with the mods back in February. I just wanted to say I am glad you are okay and I am proud of you for taking care of yourself through all this trauma! ❤️
@annecycornchip
@annecycornchip 5 месяцев назад
@@juliethache2903 aw thank you for this sweet reply💜💜
@karmaklutz
@karmaklutz 5 месяцев назад
You need to be careful about joining survivor groups these days because many groups will have this as a front, when they're actually predators themselves. Be careful and take care of yourself. Continue to live in strength and in your truth.
@ReebaD
@ReebaD 5 месяцев назад
I had to stop listening to Alexa because every single video became about all the people who haven’t apologized to her, and I started noticing she carries very different energy for victims based on her personal experiences with them, their gender, their public stances differing with hers, etc. I think she means well (but what do I know really) but has some very serious blind spots about herself
@maximusprime3459
@maximusprime3459 5 месяцев назад
So true!
@ryancasey919
@ryancasey919 5 месяцев назад
1000%!! Well put.
@annelisemarier2588
@annelisemarier2588 4 месяца назад
every time she reacts to someone’s story she has to include her experience. i get that what happened to her was bad but it’s not always about her!!! especially when she’s downplaying grooming that she luckily was able to somewhat avoid
@baileyrobbins50
@baileyrobbins50 Месяц назад
Reminds me of what Lindsey Shaw said about her that she’s crazy lol… which I believe it now. She acts like a saint and that everything she says is right when half of the time she’s wrong and a jerk to other victims.
@nowyousieme
@nowyousieme 5 месяцев назад
the breaking point for me was the way she addressed removing the drake bell video because the article had "misinformation," when that could've been addressed a number of other ways. i also hate the way she talks about journalism/journalists, because her complaints are always about things that are ethical considerations in the industry (such as not paying sources). her new grudge against quiet on set feels like a petty personal grievance about her not getting enough of her story shown when the doc was literally about nickelodeon. i'm a long-time organizer, and she does not have a nuanced understanding of anything, let alone how to organize effectively.
@JNDReacts
@JNDReacts 8 дней назад
Spot on about her problem with journalists. Standard questions = personal attacks.
@fioregiallo
@fioregiallo 7 дней назад
​@JNDReacts right? This comment aged like fine wine
@caseymckenna7111
@caseymckenna7111 4 месяца назад
I cannot tell you how refreshing it is to have found this video. Her “activism” has never sat well with me. What happened to her should not ever have happened to her or anyone else, but she’s appropriating her own trauma and I feel a lotta damage still to come from her arc as it unfolds.
@booksvsmovies
@booksvsmovies 4 месяца назад
I just wanted to mention that the Lilo and Stitch scene you reference with the tourists was supposed to be part of a wider sequence where Lilo lashes out at white tourists who fetishize and commodify native Hawaiians by taking pictures of them and treat them as props in their "exotic" vacations. The whole sequence was cut from the final movie but that fragment remains. That doesn't undermine the hints of fatphobia woven into the joke but in the wider context of its original intentions it makes more sense. Lindsay Ellis has a great section about Lilo and Stitch and its treatment of indigeneity in her video on Pocahontas if you want to get more in depth info.
@HeatherFeng
@HeatherFeng 2 месяца назад
@maximusprime3459
@maximusprime3459 5 месяцев назад
I gotta admit. Alyson Stoner is the only person who doesnt seem like shes lowkey out for some kind of monitary or flat out financial personal gain for sharing her experience.
@DanielBurtonDidYourWife
@DanielBurtonDidYourWife 5 месяцев назад
Wouldn't be too sure of that. Time will be the factor in whether or not they mean it...
@maximusprime3459
@maximusprime3459 5 месяцев назад
Shes been at it for a while. I just see her telling her story in her fashion.
@the_erin_zone
@the_erin_zone Месяц назад
alyson rocks
@user-ft3pj1nr6c
@user-ft3pj1nr6c 7 дней назад
They did a betterhelp sponsorship and my heart sank. Then the very next week they apologized and said how they’d make better and different choices for their platform in the future. And I thought it was also important to remember that they said the reason they liked the sponsor was they happened to have used betterhelp in the past and had a good experience. Having a good personal experience prior to the sponsorship made the choice feel way less icky.
@valerielevy8799
@valerielevy8799 14 часов назад
Hey just a heads up, Alyson’s pronouns are they/them. But yeah, they’re amazing
@AshChiCupcak
@AshChiCupcak 5 месяцев назад
I dont want to not like Alexa but i cant ignore some of her behavior. She took down her Drake expose before the show where they interviewed drake, ive seen her play guess who with victims stories that arent ready to come out, and just now, i was an article where she was complaining that quiet on the set aired on ID. That is like THE crime channel but she said it should be on a bigger platform? I would have thought as a victim, shed be happy to have her story heard and we all heard it. I dont understand what she wanted, a netflix documentary?
@maximusprime3459
@maximusprime3459 4 месяца назад
She said it should be on a "bigger platform"? Wow. Just. Wow.
@Lildeadthing420
@Lildeadthing420 5 месяцев назад
The pizzagate post was the first time i personally saw people call her out for lacking nuance and reducing something this serious to a cringy thumbnail. It did feel weird, unnecessary, and a bit obtuse
@mrspreminger
@mrspreminger 5 месяцев назад
I also want to mention that Alexa seems angry at any former Nickelodeon child actors who haven’t actively spoken out like she has or validated her story. But I don’t think victims have any obligation to speak out if they don’t want to, and it’s their right to stay silent if it’s by choice. I understand why she’s upset, but I don’t think she’s obligated to praise or validation from her former child costars.
@ophie-dokie
@ophie-dokie 5 месяцев назад
I completely agree!! In one of the more recent videos I did before I stopped talking abt her in videos I mentioned Keenan Thompson specifically as being someone who i don't blame for not wanting to bite the hand that feeds as it were but I think that I could truly give that compassion to pretty much anyone who was a child actor on those sets. It's awesome and brave to speak up but if you had a bad time and want to keep it to yourself it's your right and to be baited into it and then also exploited with clickbait videos as soon as you do say something on your own profile while she's blasting Christy Carlson Romano for similar is just...... man. I also understand her anger it just all feels really largely misplaced and unhealed and it makes me feel bad for the others
@maximusprime3459
@maximusprime3459 5 месяцев назад
I noticed that too. But then again, theres also a reason why a lot of those people wont affliate themselves with her presently too.
@3Cyborg
@3Cyborg 5 месяцев назад
Hi ophie, former EP subscriber and survivor here. Your videos greatly helped me assimilate my concerns about Alexa’s behavior in recent months. My hyper-vigilance creeps at the edges of my consciousness on a regular basis, and for whatever reason I continuously found myself mistrusting Alexa. Skipping live streams if I was feeling low, and distancing myself from the community. Subconsciously, I believe I could FEEL the revelations you espoused in this video, but just couldn’t get my words in a row. With your help I’ve come to realize the commodification of trauma and survivorship does not align with my values. I have a lot of personal beef with the way she communicates, but to list those here would feel like an indecorous attack on her personality- which I don’t intend to do. Simply put, I trusted Alexa. Her personable and vulnerable beginnings felt like talking to a friend. And that’s exactly what she wanted. She wants adoring fans and a special soft place to land that she created as a vacuum for her own values. There is shame that exists in me for not clocking all of this sooner and cancelling my membership before the insidious nature of her cycle became clear. She speaks openly about “breaking the cycle” when she herself is stuck in a cycle of self loftiness and victimization. I am endlessly disappointed that I have lost what felt like the perfect little spot on the Internet, something I desperately needed. I went to bat for her in the comments, made friends, and believed in the movement. Now I find myself despairing over the idea that restorative justice is something intangible and unreachable, and that accountability, true accountability, is something I can’t trust will come from those who need to take it. Predators and survivors alike.
@DanielBurtonDidYourWife
@DanielBurtonDidYourWife 5 месяцев назад
Hi 3Cyborg, thank you for sharing your story. I am sorry that you were made to feel like your instincts weren't valid and that you carry that shame. That's fucking awful. What I'm mostly sorry about is that your faith in movements and vehicles in building a just society have been damaged if not outright destroyed. There are organizations and people out there who mean what they say and are truly kind and thoughtful people fighting the good fight. I beleive the better world we want is being sought after and it will come. It just won't be an easy fight nor will it be lead by people with Hollywood backgrounds, it has to be lead in the most democratic way by ordinary people like you and me. You're probably not ready to think about all of that right now, you definitely need space and time to heal and reflect and just need a normal life, but when you feel like you're ready I'd like to make a book recommendation to you that I hope restore your faith in justice and compassion. American In the King Years is a three volume history that tells the story of MLK Jr and the Civil Rights movement from messy beginning to haunting and beautiful end. Those books pulled me out of a really dark space when I got disillusioned in a similar way so I'm hoping they'd provide the same for you. All we can do is try our best and mean we what we say when we say it. Wishing your all strength in the universe as you begin to actually heal. Take it easy, you got this! 💜 If you or anyone gets serious. Can't recommned enough! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_in_the_King_Years
@DanielBurtonDidYourWife
@DanielBurtonDidYourWife 5 месяцев назад
Also don't mind my screen name, I just have a thirteen year old's sense of humor sometimes lol.
@ophie-dokie
@ophie-dokie 5 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for sharing your experience!!! This is truthfully why I wanted to make these videos, I think I also had a lot of dissonance going on, wanting to believe the mission and seeing through it at times and then trying to just trust her judgement and coming back again and again to being very very disappointed by what she uses that judgement to do. I think it's very natural to feel some level of shame for having bought into this but I really don't think it's warranted, I think she explicitly created an environment where you have to push aside so much of your scruples to fit into that vaccuum you described for her own values and then once you realize you did that there's always a feeling of, "oh wait where was I!" that I get after the fact. This in and of itself is parasocial especially since I didn't participate in the EP community at all but it does feel even to me who didnt' have personal relationships inside of the organization the way that a really bad friendship breakup does where you realize after the fact like. oh wait I maybe didn't notice this was codependent but there's been something slowly tightening around my neck for a few months here. I'm very sorry that that was your experience, I'm really hopeful that by being able to acknowledge shortcomings like this when they happen someday we can have a large mainstream movement that actually does care about restorative justice, but again and again the people who are preaching it to large audiences and fot profit seem to end up preaching that because it means they would get to try again and again endlessly after hurting people on purpose and I struggle to get down with that. But just in terms of numbers I feel like such a large percentage of the people who were drawn in by Eat Predators were genuine and have true intentions and could do really meaningful work if someone could organize them in a way that's more meaningful than what Alexa is doing, but I think a lot of them either already are or if Alexa continues acting like this unchecked will end up in similar boats as us where it's just like "well most people trying to organize with this are not for real". I think maybe the best way to advocate for change online is to let your voice in the discourse be one that tries to help people plug in with local efforts near them and shape the conversations happening there and never some grand overarching project that will Solve everything. And yet also there are failings in that, a lot of people can much more easily participate in something online than in their tangible community. I myself am disabled and struggle to leave my house, like I was in no way making these videos to be like "and my feminist organization will be better" because I never want to be a feminist organization I just want to like, be a feminist buddy people might wanna have chats with sometimes to make sure we're not being weird lol
@becz9485
@becz9485 5 месяцев назад
I literally just subscribed to Alexas membership when this video was recommended to me. I canceled my sub now, i dont feel comfortable contributing what i can see now is a very self focused individual.
@HappyLookinAts
@HappyLookinAts 5 месяцев назад
Your videos give me old school RU-vid vibes and I’ve never been happier hahaha also going to bed is always the right option
@junji_cheeto
@junji_cheeto 5 месяцев назад
I have been weary and hovering on Alexa's content for a while now, it has always seemed to be very emotionally charged and personal in a way that made me feel unsure. It seems like she is looking to get justice for herself but framing it as something she's only doing for all other survivors. But every topic comes with how it relates to the abuse she endured and strays away from the actual topic at hand. That has always made me uncomfortable, but I would often defend her because I absolutely feel her pain (especially in the Ned's pod situation because to me, that podcast is a chaotic mess that maybe shouldn't be platformed). But her support of Drake Bell is very offputting to me and really sends the opposite message from what she insists are her core values. Maybe there's a bigger reason for it, only time will tell... The pushing of over priced merchandise does leave a gross taste in my mouth though... maybe if a portion of the proceeds were being donated or was a gift to those who chose to donate to a certain tier, it would feel less icky? Otherwise 45$ for a shirt I could easily silkscreen myself does feel like taking advantage of her platform and quite tasteless in general. I am still left with a lot of mixed feelings, and as I am a CSA/grooming survivor myself, I am thankful you tackled the nuance of these situations with such care. "✨️Nuance Corner✨️ was a nice added touch, btw 😅 Ps; You are very articulate in your delivery! I really enjoy your cadence and general vibe 😊 you definitely have a new subscriber in me!
@maximusprime3459
@maximusprime3459 5 месяцев назад
Its very much like what Corey Feldman was doing, trying to profit and piggyback on Corey Haim's trauma.
@100mmatte
@100mmatte 5 месяцев назад
You are correct! If you listen to the way she speaks, her streams are completely driven by her emotions. Not saying she didn’t experience abuse, because she did and that’s been verified. But now it’s difficult to tell which parts are true and which parts have been overly exaggerated. Hyperbolizing things comes naturally when experiencing trauma. Also in Alexa’s last video she goes on a rant about how ppl spend too much time on drama with others when that time and energy could be used for something valuable or productive which is true, but very hypocritical coming from her because that’s PRECISELY what she does in nearly every video of hers. I could care less what other actors and actresses say and do, I want to see how eatnpredators has healed the lives of others and made a a positive change in the world. Not listen to Alexa’s beef which everyone in life goes through. Let’s be honest:
@bydivadream
@bydivadream 5 месяцев назад
Wait, does the merchandise not go solely to Eat Predators' efforts?!
@100mmatte
@100mmatte 5 месяцев назад
@@bydivadream it goes to Alexa
@withoutaname-u3m
@withoutaname-u3m 5 месяцев назад
I used to support EP. Even purchased a tshirt, that never arrived or was even shipped. They were prompt in refunding me though so I’ll give them that.
@ORIONSTARGATE
@ORIONSTARGATE 5 месяцев назад
yea i had a similar experience
@SquidFiction
@SquidFiction Месяц назад
Glad they didn’t ship to the UK when I thought about ordering one at the time😅
@muttley3050
@muttley3050 2 месяца назад
Glad somebody else pointed out how weird the Ned's Declassified pod is! There's just something off about it
@marinawilson3337
@marinawilson3337 3 месяца назад
A lot of the Nickelodeon kid stars seem very stunted in their emotional development and struggle with empathy for other people not reacting in the way they think they would react. It reminds me of how teenagers understand empathy and not how 30 year olds should.
@buffyb0nes
@buffyb0nes 5 месяцев назад
i also find it weird she name drops britney like every day when britney mentioned her once and not even by name. but she didn’t talk about britney’s conservatorship until it was about her did she? idk
@prophetessoftroy
@prophetessoftroy 5 месяцев назад
Kind of like CCR and Shia Leboeuf
@gloriana13
@gloriana13 4 месяца назад
@@lmnlstesI hope Britney blocks Alexa and doesn’t address that tbh.
@abbyygross
@abbyygross 5 месяцев назад
this is so comprehensive and you are so well spoken. i am going to send into the Do We Know Them Podcast!
@fernlikespossums
@fernlikespossums 4 месяца назад
looove the dwkt podcast
@tori-ding6819
@tori-ding6819 4 месяца назад
this video perfectly articulates the icky feelings i’ve had about her from the start, like there’s this air of ego/dishonest intentions when it comes to EP. that said, i’ll be billing you for the therapy i’m gonna need from hearing my Amazon Alexa devices go off constantly for the past two hours 😭 great video, Ophie!
@MadisonL36
@MadisonL36 5 месяцев назад
I would love to hear your thoughts on the podcast episode that Trisha just released with Alexa. It seemed like Trisha tried to bring up the nuances of drake bell being a victim that perpetuated trauma and Alexa was avoiding the statements.
@ophie-dokie
@ophie-dokie 5 месяцев назад
oh thank you, watching right now!! I think I'm def gonna have to follow up at this point. I've been seeing her catch surprise/criticism for going on Just Trish in the first place but I think it makes so much sense lol
@antiqueclock2606
@antiqueclock2606 Месяц назад
I've been binge watching your videos these last couple of days and I really appreciate your takes on stuff like this
@prophetessoftroy
@prophetessoftroy 5 месяцев назад
I want to preface this by saying that I was honestly slightly aged out for most of the Nick shows that Alexa and the others came from, so I didn’t know who she was until CCR had her on Vulnerable. So I don’t have a lot of the associations with the properties or the actors that a lot of people do. I was also not a huge Even Stevens fan, but eventually I gave in to the algorithm when Alyson Stoner was on CCR’s show because I’d seen their* Pipeline videos and was interested in what they* had to say. From there I popped in and out, and when I saw that Alexa was also talking about the issues related to children in entertainment, I gave it a go. From what I saw, she had clearly suffered some trauma and was at least partially processing that by trying to raise awareness about the issue. She basically dropped off my radar and I didn’t really dip back into any of the PodCo stuff because the millennial nostalgia thing isn’t all that interesting to me. But I do work in an investigative role related to special situations, and so when Alyson dropped their* Hollywood series, I watched it. And I watched Quiet on Set when it came out. And, like a lot of others (I imagine), I started looking around to see if the people I remembered from Nick who hadn’t been featured in the doc had things to say. And Alexa kept coming up, over and over again. So I tried sitting through several EP…episodes? Streams? I hesitate to call it a podcast because it’s really more of a twitch stream on the wrong platform than anything. And my conclusion is basically the same as it was before: Alexa is obviously passionate about the treatment of survivors of abuse, not just child actors, in the entertainment industry. She is just as clearly as person who is still processing her own stuff and is doing so externally. She just as obviously wants to leverage this new passion for activism into something with some staying power. The problem is, she really isn’t good at it. She isn’t any better at it now than she was in 2022 when she was on Vulnerable. In fact, she’s kind of worse. Her communication style hasn’t evolved, the way she presents the issue isn’t any more polished, and most of what she’s centering is just gossip designed to elicit emotional reactions from people. Part of being a successful activist is drawing people to the cause, and she isn’t doing that in any way that’s effective either to advance EP’s (somewhat nebulous) goals, or to advance her own agenda…whatever that even is. She’s just playing at it, like she expects charisma and her story to get her there. It’s not going to. The “podcast” is a mess. CCR may be more of a capitalist than a creator, but at least the PodCo shows are mastering their audio and (some of them) have a loose format instead of dumping for over an hour and complaining about technical issues that they should easily be able to avoid after this long. EP can’t say any of those things, in large part because the organization (such as it is) doesn’t seem to know what it really wants to be or to accomplish. It’s just become a vehicle for Alexa to desperately try to make herself relevant. More than that, watching the episodes of EP feels manipulative of traumatized people being orchestrated by a person who either cannot, has not, or simply will not address their own issues. She comes off as fragile and somewhat unstable. It makes me concerned that she hasn’t really sought the help she deserves in order to work through her stuff, and it’s really painful as a fellow survivor of SA to watch. Genuinely hope she can 5 that in a more private forum. Anyway, tldr; the only former child star turned activist of this group who is really actively doing the work right rn is Alyson Stoner; and, to a lesser degree, Jeanette McCurdy. If Alexa’s goal is actually activism, is actually to affect change, those are the people in the same trenches she should be looking to. *edited to correct pronouns & clarify a couple of points
@maximusprime3459
@maximusprime3459 5 месяцев назад
I was pre- any of this. I tapped out of Nickelodeon after Roundhouse left the air. My generation was more Danger Mouse, Today's Special, Pinwheel and You Can't Do That on Television.
@radishfest
@radishfest 11 дней назад
I love this comment. The parasocial aspect is really standing out to me. I didn't get to watch much TV as a kid. I think that's why I am here trying to figure out who this woman is and why she's getting so much attention. I do not know her... most people do not *know* her! But I guess she's had an audience for a while. _(I want you to know that I laughed extremely hard when you said she "really isn't good at activism." That's such honest, valid criticism! And I never see anyone say it!! Your words have healed my heart. 😌)_ I want to know why she is suddenly in my world, why she's being presented as an Activist. It feels off. Usually, this is where we would joke about glowies and ops. I wonder if capitalism could turn a person into an unwitting sort of op. Laughing and joking, obviously. Anyone can be an activist, but I will gatekeep here and say activism is for humanity, never individuals. I do not think egocentric campaigns are activism. I think just talking to people about a cause you care about is activism. I think the messy space between the two hurts and confuses people. It can turn people away from community and empowerment. Or: A desire to control others has no place in activism. Convince? Yes. Control? Never. I think the difference between the two is the essence of humanity. A soul. Something went wrong here. I want to locate it, study it, and speak out. This thing keeps happening. It keeps hurting people. I think it is easy to confuse intensity with activism when the American/English internet largely runs on parasocial relationships. Most of our media seems to, actually. When was the word "parasocial" first used, and are you sure? If we have known about this phenomenon for so long... why have we ended up this way? I love to read old studies. I think I will go do that after hitting send. I am wearing my tinfoil hat and saying that it would be extremely profitable to turn "activism" into a brand. I am thinking about what was done to the Panthers, and I am noting that it was not only the Panthers who were ever targeted. I 100% believe that feminists, especially feminists who want equal rights for all humans (idk what RU-vid removes so 🏳️‍⚧️✊💜) are being Messed With. Again, I am wearing my tinfoil hat. I think sometimes people who are extremely not-doing-okay end up with surprisingly large platforms. Like opportunity manifests. My tinfoil hat says that many of them are being used. Okay, I am stepping out of activist mode and setting the tinfoil hat down. 💖 I sincerely hope she is able to heal for herself, to not require others for validation. 💖 Not everyone is cool with Therapy, therapy is expensive and can be traumatic. Maybe we can move away from that word if we mean mind or emotional healing...? 💖 I hope she is able to have privacy when needed. Anxious about this part. I am up in her business right now, after all. I think it's going to get gnarly. 💖 I hope we all continue to learn, grow, and deepen our love for humanity. 💖 We are all equals. I hope all people learn to feel this in their hearts. Last thought. Do for-profit businesses have to share donor/stakeholder/funding info if they aren't publicly traded?
@radishfest
@radishfest 11 дней назад
Someone recommended coming to your channel for an explainer- I was not prepared for how thorough and thoughtful your videos are! (I saw that you have videos about A Documentarian so I hope you know exactly I mean. All love. 😊) Chapters or timestamps would be super super useful if they aren't too much trouble. I have memory/attention trouble - this is good info and analysis, so I want to revisit specific parts. ...aaand I just remembered the transcript feature exists while writing this. Oop. You touched on so many things that (imo) make people feel like activism isn't for them. My brain is sticking on that aspect bc that's My Thing. I love big picture views like this because they help me find generalized words to describe common issues. Apology activism is a great term. My friends and I have called it "Spreading Me Awareness" bc "performative activism" doesn't fit quite right. I will say that ime, celebrities/influencers are best kept far away from the actual center of movements. Their income relies on their ability to make things about themselves. It doesn't really matter if they mean well, their brains have developed shortcuts that don't really vibe with collective action. It's a lot to unlearn or even become aware of. It can end up hurting them as well as the movement they're attached to. Feels wrong to say that organizers should protect them, bc that's an easy way to derail. I'll leave this end messy.
@ruthie8872
@ruthie8872 2 месяца назад
I have always felt weird about both EP and CCR but I think EP's handling felt a bit more sensible, so I passively engaged with it more. The Ned's Declassified beef era was really around the time when I started feeling the least tolerant of it on any level. Alexa started threatening the kids from Ned's with revealing her own inside info about a party with the implication that something truly horrible happened to Lindsey at that party and the guy who played Ned knew and/or did something. Unrelated, but those kids from Boy Meets World were adults when they wrote the letters in support of Peck. Peck had just lied to them about the entire basis of the case and they took him at his word as a friend. Oh and Alexa also implied that Ashton Kutcher murdered an ex gf on a live in backlash to his letter in support of Masterson. I have so much empathy for her as a person but I don't like her leadership style or her rhetorical style as it currently exists.
@WordsofTheLamb
@WordsofTheLamb 5 месяцев назад
There's a lot to unpack, so let’s begin, I empathize a lot with her because finding your footing after being abused for so long and having your truth invalidated can be challenging. In the past, I was the same way, and by not being solid in my faith or getting therapy, it was overwhelming to myself and other people. I think we should extend a little grace to Alexa, but that's just me. Also, if she doesn’t have friends holding her accountable about how Eat Predators might be coming across, then Alexa not gonna see in issue with some of the things she is doing. There were times when Alexa was sarcastic more than she needed to be in her reaction videos. In retrospect, she could have recognized that Corey Feldman might be a problem, but he's also a survivor. There is a lot of mention of Britney Spears, but that's because Britney apologized to her. I do not think Alexa got the many apologies she deserved. Similarly, Alexa leads with her emotions instead of determining if she can trust someone with her story, like Christy Ramono. I do feel this would've been a TOTALLY different outcome if Jamie-Lynn Spears would have just apologized, also. As much as I believe she has good intentions, I hope she opens the narrative to others sharing their experience in the industry, and providing their necessary resources for them. Alexa seems to have bit off more than she can chew. I pray that she doesn't crash and burn in her activism.
@bydivadream
@bydivadream 5 месяцев назад
Agree with everything here -- speaking of how often she mentions Britney --- as a lifelong megafan of Britney who has met her several times and even interned for her charity foundation in my teens, I've been gaslighting myself to feel guilty by how uncomfortable it feels the way she name-drops her left and right and very much comes across as a show-off, "look how special I am that Britney Spears apologized to me and sent her book to me?"
@lilianaledesma7254
@lilianaledesma7254 4 месяца назад
Thank you for bringing up the hypocrisy about Drake vs Corey in Alexas perspective. I've been trying to explain that sentiment and people are just not agreeing with me.
@Lildeadthing420
@Lildeadthing420 5 месяцев назад
Very very last thing I will say. I hope she will eventually get better at not doing an over the top surprised reaction on her stream to things she is aware of and has already posted about cuz it comes off forced and makes her sincerity come into question more
@ophie-dokie
@ophie-dokie 5 месяцев назад
completely agree!!! it's jarring to just be reminded so often if you follow her both on twitter and youtube that she is An Actress Doing Acting when she acts so stunned or tearful or whatever and I hate being like "these feel like crocodile tears" but especially in the case of that one clip about Drake it just feels like such intentional audience manipulation or if she really does get that overwhelmed maybe News Reporter is not her career path lol. Thank you so much for watching and for the comments I loved seeing your thoughts!!
@slydakota8143
@slydakota8143 5 месяцев назад
I love the advocacy work and hope something good comes from it continuing. I can barely participate anymore though because of Alexa’s emotional reactivity and personalization of EVERY topic discussed. There’s no nuance corner and if it was her own channel, while I would still take issue, it wouldn’t be as big of a deal. The issue is it’s now an organization that’s accepting money from people to actually do things, and it lacks so much professionalism.
@ophie-dokie
@ophie-dokie 5 месяцев назад
yes!!! and every tweet on my dash criticizing EP gets replied to like "but they're a nonprofit they're doing good" and even when they're corrected they're like oh well it's an organization it's still doing good work, but like, she's projecting a lot more "organizing" than actually seems to be there, I think it's just her and her husband running a podcast where she gets to gossip but be a hero for it
@bydivadream
@bydivadream 5 месяцев назад
if you don't mind, would you elaborate more in-depth on both the feelings/context of the reactivity and especially the personalization?
@Derbearxo
@Derbearxo 4 месяца назад
I really enjoyed the videos in the beginning when I found the channel, but idk, I don’t mean this to sound horrible because I know she’s been victimized a lot by her ex husband, but with all the stories of Nickelodeon coming out and details and things I feel like she acts like she went through way more than she did at the hands of that company. Not to say what she did experience wasn’t wrong and gross but like, she acts like it was on the same level of a Jeanette McCurdy or Amanda Bynes. “Nickelodeon didn’t protect me” just hits different when she has the same 2-3 allegations of bullying on set and that’s all. Idk maybe this is way off base I just get a weird vibe.
@bydivadream
@bydivadream 4 месяца назад
It has taken such a long time for many of us to not gaslight ourselves into feeling guilty by realizing this. Alexa is the epitome of Main Character Syndrome - we should all find her important and protect her, she is a savior who believes her opinions are needed on every topic.
@chatoyantsfriend
@chatoyantsfriend 3 месяца назад
Okay but the "Coolsville sucks" reference 😆
@justanotherinternetwiseguy8018
@justanotherinternetwiseguy8018 5 месяцев назад
No music No zoom ins No awkward cutaways to a sponsor/video/ meme No clickbait No toxic fandom No sexual innuendos No bullshit, just straight to the point. love that. Wish more youtubers did this. I also wanted to say i was a supporter of hers. never gave money just watched a few videos. i stopped being a fan because she seems to go on a tangent about irrelevant topics half the time. She also laughs alot. It's ok to laugh, but she does it in almost every video so it feels less like a coping mechanism and more like she isn’t taking things seriously. If alexa really wants to be serious then she should go beyond nickelodeon. It's great that she advocates for nick actors but the line does not end there. So many other companies are exploiting children and it needs to be brought to everyones attention. Anyways i enjoyed your video, i love how well spoken and insightful you are!
@mv9653
@mv9653 3 месяца назад
4:32 Iappreciate the disclaimer. I feel like most of Alexa’s issues can be boiled down to not wanting to work through misunderstandings because she either doesn’t have the emotional energy or becomes overwhelmed with reactive anxiety that results in harm . Some of the GMM criticism of Alexa was very valid, but I had a lot of issues with the way Shift framed things. It feels a little too “debate bro,” and trying to find closure and be “right” than to have a conversation. The latter two qualities are also things Alexa has been guilty of, and Shift’s seeming inability or unwillingness to recognize those qualities within themself is a red flag . Also, his “I’m not a victim but will list every single way I was wronged” framing felt very weird.
@diana_le5210
@diana_le5210 5 месяцев назад
I have mixed feeling about Alexa because do feel for her and I love that she is trying to fight for change, but it does get personal very quick anytime someone has a story to tell. The fact that she included Christi Romano in her issues with Lindsey Shaw did rub me the wrong way. Why are you getting mad at one person because they aren’t getting someone else, who grown, to apologize!?! I do think she internalizes a lot and that gets in the way of what she’s fighting for.
@JNDReacts
@JNDReacts 7 дней назад
10:41 It may not matter to this specific video’s topic, but you’re still right. Even after she grew out the bob and stopped trying to drown Emily, something about Paige always creeped me out, and the only reason I’ve ever been able to come up with is that it had something to do with Lindsay’s acting. I’m not just sure what exactly that was.
@prophetessoftroy
@prophetessoftroy 5 месяцев назад
Just a note as I’m getting toward the end of the video: the over-emoting could be an actor acting, but it could also legit be just emotional disregulation related to unaddressed trauma and/or hormones. Anecdotally, the unresolved trauma thing and dealing with burnout from some undiagnosed stuff of my own made me absurdly emotionally reactive to things, usually in the form of crying at the stupidest, unrelated-to-me things. And then I’d be fine again. It was just how my brain was processing overstimulation at that point. Absolutely not excusing all the over-identification and centering of herself in things (that’s a whole other thing that she should be held accountable for), but in the interest of being fair, at least some of the emoting and rapid tone shift could actually be legit.
@bydivadream
@bydivadream 5 месяцев назад
Any chance you could elaborate on the over-emoting, over-identification/centering herself? I'm super curious to examine them, if you wouldn't mind adding examples and/or context ❤
@TindraSan
@TindraSan 4 месяца назад
the icon with the hand coming out of the mouth does remind me of Rocky Horror Picture Show, which I don't feel is a good thing in that context
@Lildeadthing420
@Lildeadthing420 5 месяцев назад
Yes and the megyn kelly thing. Its all just starting to feel more like a means to an end
@MrGMovieReviews
@MrGMovieReviews 5 месяцев назад
Megyn Kelly was also sexually assaulted.
@GroovyGizmos
@GroovyGizmos 5 месяцев назад
this is a great video and very validating of the views I have towards Eat Predators
@vivianjustine1779
@vivianjustine1779 2 месяца назад
Thank you for promoting the #unsilenced movement. Child abuse shouldn’t be legal.
@Fawkseyness
@Fawkseyness 4 месяца назад
As someone with a ton of trauma from years of therapy (actively used to manipulate me and enable my abusers etc) I just can't jump on board with the "therapy is the best thing ever and the one and only best solution for everyone" bandwagon. It mostly only benefits those that are mostly privileged to begin with. And the entire industry is full of oppression in both origin and contemporary practice. It's automatically lost a lot of legitimacy in my eyes since conversion therapy is something that can be practiced without losing a license (and is frequently allowed to rebrand or otherwise go stealth to trick queer adults into paying to be out through it. Also including ABA, which gets public funds and mainstream support even), and is only ever challenged by societal legal laws. And not actual Hippocratic type codes of ethical medical practice. And that's only *one* issue with the industry.
@Fawkseyness
@Fawkseyness 4 месяца назад
I also don't agree with the "just say sorry" or the overly aggressive kinda performative stuff (would never listen to a podcast called "eat predators" or anything like that. Huge red flag for at least the kinds of conversations I'd find pointless if not counter productive). I kinda think the over the top aggressive stuff gives cover to a lot of abusive people that use the cloak of victimhood (their own or the vulnerable. Something even vegans do at times) to just excuse anything they say or do in the name of the greater good or at least reading down the greater evil. (Even trump incontinence jokes tbh). Real "dark empath" energy It just isn't a healthy way to have social dialogue. I just also don't think that privilege is a virtue and think a lot of mental health discourse kinda ends up falling into that. Especially with the over glorification of therapy and the complete erasure that it can cause serious harm and that there are things that sometimes just work better for individuals.
@mv9653
@mv9653 3 месяца назад
The problem, like most overarching problems with things that are supposed to be good, can be traced to capitalism. ABA and conversion therapy come from the Lovassian mindset that “normalcy”=ability to participate in capitalist society=success. Therapy should just be about working through mental health issues or just having a space to vent, but because capitalism determines so many social norms of want behaviors are or aren’t acceptable, toxic behaviorism seeps its way into too many therapeutic practices. Capitalism is also the reason therapy is inaccessible to everyone who can’t pay for it or get insurance.
@MoonAndStars25
@MoonAndStars25 12 дней назад
@@mv9653While capitalism plays a role, I think it is overly simplistic to state that ABA and conversion therapy exist because of it. There are many factors such as religion, prejudice and ignorance that also play more of a role in the way autistic and queer people are treated
@MoonAndStars25
@MoonAndStars25 12 дней назад
Hey I too am a victim of certain therapies that have messed me up beyond belief. I am slowly healing and am now in talk therapy which I made very clear to my therapist would be in my control but I had a fear of therapy and psychologists and psychiatrists for years and I still do. I wish you luck and i am sorry the world isn’t a better place for us ❤
@veestreams
@veestreams 11 дней назад
To be clear, there is no reputable mental health licensing agency that endorses conversion therapy as ethical or efficacious practice. You can absolutely file complaints with the relevant licensing board if you find one doing this. What you’ve likely encountered are wacko religious organizations that do not actually employ real, licensed mental health professionals, but still brand their practices as “therapy” to try and trick people into believing their practices have merit. That, or wacko ex-mental health professionals working for religious organizations who have had their licenses revoked or lapsed. Every state should have a database of licensed professionals you can use to confirm if someone is ACTUALLY currently licensed. This isn’t really surprising, considering they’ve done similar things to abortion clinics (branding as a “pregnancy crisis center” and advertising offering abortion services with no intention to deliver those services to try and trick pregnant women into not getting abortions). It’s also common to see unlicensed people parading around as “mental health professionals” when they aren’t licensed (e.g. “life coaches” do things that resemble therapy, but they are not licensed nor overseen by any board to ensure they aren’t doing harm) If you want conversion therapy to go away then demonizing the mental health field is not going to get you far. Support local, state, and federal legislation that bans conversion therapy, so these weirdos have no where to hide.
@AmeliaDesign
@AmeliaDesign 5 месяцев назад
I was a member for 9 days. I tend to get hyper-focused on things, and I had followed her before the Cristy CR stuff happened. I unfollowed Alexa after I watched a video of hers (maybe about Colleen and Alex) where she mispronounced people’s names and misstated facts that were very easy to fact check. As someone who goes down research rabbit holes, I remember thinking, this is dangerous. You are throwing around people’s reputations and trauma, and not even knowing basics before you live stream and react in very emotional ways. I also didn’t like how she hasn’t addressed the Aftermath Foundation scandal as at all, but still promotes the ex-Scientology fundraiser tee shirt that promotes TAF. I’m not decided in that whole situation, but you have to address it if you are a saying you are a “survivor centered space.” I also got weirded out about how it was so obvious she hadn’t really teased out her own beliefs about victims versus cycle of abuse perpetrators in general. She seems to align quickly with people claiming to only be survivors, and then says, “Oops well they were abused as kids, and they abused others, and now they are sorry - so we support them. But THIS survivor who also abused others, we don’t support.” It just feels like she needs more therapy and training before she platforms as a safe space for survivors. It’s very nuanced and very difficult to create a space where people can heal let alone advocate. It just seems like you need to focus on one or the other. Also, why is her “artivism” only done by her and her husband and they keep all the money (except the Scientology tee). It’s just a little bit strange. It wasn’t adding up. Glad to see a nuanced take here. Again, I wish Alexa the best and will still watch her content as a subscriber and hope that, with time and experience, she can begin putting in more research and also aligning with other support groups. You don’t have to heal alone or reinvent the wheel. People have been healing and figuring out what works since the dawn of time and suffering began. Off to watch the rest of your video now 9:42 … 1:09:58 Yes, the logo is creepy to me too! Like we hate how Nick sexualizes feet, here is our logo of red lips with a man (?) being a eaten. These are not the same. What?
@maximusprime3459
@maximusprime3459 5 месяцев назад
Yes. Alexa is very irresponsible and reckless with information or often times lack thereof.
@bydivadream
@bydivadream 5 месяцев назад
hey, any chance you remember which Colleen video?
@AmeliaDesign
@AmeliaDesign 5 месяцев назад
@@bydivadream I’ll have to check.
@AmeliaDesign
@AmeliaDesign 5 месяцев назад
@@bydivadream ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jMqRzycnUe4.htmlsi=VG4xsN1vVsYjk3UR about 4 minutes in calls Adam McIntyre “Adam McKinner” instead of Mac-in-tire
@bydivadream
@bydivadream 5 месяцев назад
​@@AmeliaDesign thank you! I actually remember that, now that you bring it up -- on a related note, why do you think Alexa only makes livestream videos and not pre-recorded put-together content?
@guizhongs
@guizhongs 5 месяцев назад
alexa makes me very uncomfortable
@user-hr6lo8yt6x
@user-hr6lo8yt6x 4 месяца назад
Really enjoyed the video and I especially liked how thoughtful you were (sometimes it's hard to find nuance with "call out" videos, for lack of a better term). Alexa has rubbed me the wrong way for a while but I couldn't really articulate exactly why. You should have way more subscribers and I'm definitely going to binge the rest of your video backlog now.
@emmylunaa
@emmylunaa 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for this video! I tune into Alexa's content when I can and I always liked it until recently when she was boarder line defending Drake Bell. This video informed me of so many other red flags. Thank you for the research and heart this video took to post!!
@fernlikespossums
@fernlikespossums 4 месяца назад
christy carilson ramano jumpscare (i only know her from the do we know them podcast)
@Loveless9441
@Loveless9441 2 месяца назад
So I loved I'm glad my mom died too but I would not say that the book was about her work in therapy. In fact I actually think that was a pretty small part of the book. If you literally look at the pages devoted to it, she gets to her work in therapy in perhaps the last third of the book. As we know, her attempt at therapy the first time doesn't go so well. She eventually journeys back to it, and then they eventually TIMESKIP. Suddenly she's been in therapy and she's realizing how much she's changed. The actual therapy and work she did is not there. I would say most of the book is the lead up to it. I loved the book, but I actually felt like the last third of the book was somewhat weaker because she didn't go into those details.
@mallymalz8014
@mallymalz8014 6 часов назад
everything she’s done is terrible, but the thing that really took me aback is the kesha bashing. kesha has endured some of the worst abuse and hatred in the music industry and just as a human being. so disgusting of her and really not “pro-survivor”
@Lildeadthing420
@Lildeadthing420 5 месяцев назад
Was unaware of the kesha situation that's so disappointing.(a lot of what she's done and is doing disappointing as well) I'm realizing how when alexa feels when she isn't respected even if it that other person might not know of her or her situation she takes it personally and will either intentionally or unintentionally lump those people in with the predators she's protesting.
@ophie-dokie
@ophie-dokie 5 месяцев назад
I name searched for Kesha on her profile too and despite the fact that Eat Predators DID protest Sony as she mentioned in that response with "literally protested Sony. Take care" even after Kesha fixed it and pulled out, I didn't see Alexa/Eat Predators celebrating her getting out from her record deal recently, I couldn't find any tweets about Gag Order or anything. Or her mentioned by name in the tweets about protesting Sony, she seems to only have mentioned what she's been through by saying "oh she's she's an inspiration to other survivors" as why Alexa was so disappointed. again if Kesha had gone through with that concert some level of disappointment would have been more than justified imo but to approach it like a big cancellation before it happened really did not sit right with me, I'm glad it's not just me lol. I think a lot of it does come down to how easy the Survivor vs Predator dichotomy makes painting anyone who isn't directly in the exact line Alexa wants to set as a Predator or Predator Protector is so easy. But then Alexa does that with Drake Bell and likes all his posts on ig and platforms him and doesn't want us to think she's also protecting a predator, it's so frustrating.
@Lildeadthing420
@Lildeadthing420 5 месяцев назад
I wanna believe she has good intentions but some of these blind spots come across as someone in the early stages of a grift and that worries me so much
@TheEighthAct
@TheEighthAct 5 месяцев назад
Lol the pll tangent. Thanks for the vid and commitment
@ophie-dokie
@ophie-dokie 5 месяцев назад
what did Maya know!!!!! why was there no real pay off for maya knew!!!!! miss aria youre a killer not ezras wife!! things that still haunt me lol. thank you for watching!!!!!
@peacelovekris93
@peacelovekris93 5 месяцев назад
New subscriber! Your thoughts have been very similar to mine over the past year or two. Thank you for giving a voice to this ❤
@TindraSan
@TindraSan 4 месяца назад
1:28:30 I'm p sure the point of Lilo taking photos of the tourists is a sort of response to the way the tourists tend to treat her and other natives of the island, and that's the joke. (tho I also think it just mean to be another showcase of her being a very quirky kid) buuuuut from a meta pov they definitely didn't have to make the focus be so much on fat tourists
@CheyenneNKStone
@CheyenneNKStone 3 месяца назад
I'm a little more understanding of people not wanting to go non-profit because when I looked into it myself there is a lot of those in the industry advising against it. Obviously, none of this is Alexa's reasoning so it's a moot point. But, a lot of people pointed out that there is limited funding and the oversaturation of groups is taking funding that does exist. It is much more helpful to join up with a larger group or so I've been told. There's just not enough resources to go around and you can easily overpromise not be able to anything because the funds just aren't there.
@CheyenneNKStone
@CheyenneNKStone 3 месяца назад
I also forgot to validate, as someone who has been in the non-profit/activism industry... The idea that we have to do labour for free or we don't care enough is so prevalent and so exhausting. People are being taken advantage of this way so often and it does lead to burnout and people leaving the industry. I really think it;s an important topic to cover because this is important work we are doing, but operating in this way is so unsustainable.
@Blue_Parappa
@Blue_Parappa 3 дня назад
at the risk of being too "medium is the message", the guerrilla girls were specifically protesting against the sexism present in the art world, which ties their art directly to the activism in a meaningful way. idk, the citing of the guerrilla girls annoys me a lot because she's clearly missing a big part of why they did what they did.
@Kittyfris
@Kittyfris Месяц назад
I know this video is from a months ago, but I'd like to add something. Rider was actually 13 when he met Brian Peck. He revealed this in a Pod Meets World episode released in June.
@Lildeadthing420
@Lildeadthing420 5 месяцев назад
I truly do not want to turn your comments into a place i keep venting about alexa I just truly feel this is the safest space to do so and after I say this I'll push myself to just disengage. The last thing I wanna say about about the situation that I hadn't seen others mention is how I just realized how absolutely weird and unnecessary it is how she will do reactions to watching child actors kiss adults on her stream just to say what we already know that its creepy and wrong. She could literally just call out that it's wrong and leave it at that but she plays on her stream and makes a spectacle about it and I'd be sitting there thinking, wait do you not think it's weird you're just replaying this trauma to gawk at and are literally profiting off that?????
@Lildeadthing420
@Lildeadthing420 5 месяцев назад
She called out lizzo for not taking accountability and running away(justified) but o'm starting to feel it's gonna end the same way with her based off the ccr situation.
@ophie-dokie
@ophie-dokie 5 месяцев назад
yeah theres even a big redacted part in hindsight in that matthew underwood letter she was trashing and I truly do not know if was sent to her that way or if she knew that about him, because in context in the email he sent to the fan about dan (which like, I don't cosign everything he said in that, I think he was too forgiving of Dan and not open to the fact that nick shows are explicitly pretty sexualized) there's a big black box and then the next thing is something along the lines of "So I would never question that kind of claim" or something like that... maybe she didn't previously know he had also had a history but maybe that person didnt redact that for him and she's known this whole time but still wants him painted as a villain since he was on Zoey 101 with her and she has to hate that whole cast even though Nick as a structure/Dan was the problem and maybe not the other teens she just might not have gotten along with at the time. Idk. It's weird!!! and for her to clickbait it immediately as soon as he puts out a statement is so so weird and something she would hate literally any other person for doing. Imagine if Christy Carlson Romano made a video talking about someone's trauma and they weren't there. We would hear about that for weeks, but it's what she does daily on the Alexa Show.
@ophie-dokie
@ophie-dokie 5 месяцев назад
I definitely could see her moving Eat Predators to explicitly being a merch factory and maybe throwing her hands up and giving up on clickbaiting other people's trauma if she gets enough pushback about it. It's already mostly about selling shirts and merch and I think she's a double-downer so we'll be seeing more ugly nick themed shirts soon lol
@aroorooroo
@aroorooroo 5 месяцев назад
That really confused me too. Like couldn’t she have just talked about how there were kissing scenes involving children and adult actors?? And brought up their ages? She didn’t need to actually watch and show the clips. Sometimes it comes across as her purposely triggering herself for the views.
@Lildeadthing420
@Lildeadthing420 5 месяцев назад
@@aroorooroo LITERALLY
@hilarycraig5360
@hilarycraig5360 5 месяцев назад
You know Will and Ryder were not kids when they wrote the letter? They were in their 20s. Also she mentions pizza gate because the podcast did. Did you watch her episode on it?
@HappyLookinAts
@HappyLookinAts 5 месяцев назад
So well put!!!! I’m so so glad I’m not alone. I have been collecting some information on this too we should chat
@karmaklutz
@karmaklutz 5 месяцев назад
I'm sorry, but this is a group effort at this point, not a one woman show. Alexa is annoying to me for some reason
@maximusprime3459
@maximusprime3459 5 месяцев назад
She wants the fortune and glory all to herself for doing something other folks have dedicated themselves to for years.
@maximusprime3459
@maximusprime3459 5 месяцев назад
​@@SAMEntalhealthI agree.
@karmaklutz
@karmaklutz 5 месяцев назад
@@maximusprime3459 I am so glad someone else sees what I see bc it's very rare that people perceive truth these days
@bydivadream
@bydivadream 5 месяцев назад
​@@SAMEntalhealth considering you are making some of the worst possible accusations about a person you don't know in real life, it's highly recommended you include all your sources to back up all the judgements you're stating as fact as otherwise, you're defaming her.
@bydivadream
@bydivadream 5 месяцев назад
@@SAMEntalhealth Never said I was a fan. All my comment mentioned was if you're going to make such a dangerous accusation about any person that they are lying or making up being an abuse victim, surely you would have evidence to back up your claims since your actions without proof are considered defamation.
@marseillesulfur2592
@marseillesulfur2592 3 месяца назад
this is a great video. i feel compelled to say something about the whole drake bell thing, but i do not want to seem too trauma dump-y, all i will say is similar to drake bell, the man who sexually assaulted me as a child had been victimized as a child himself. seeing people practically fight tooth & nail to defend drake bell & shut down any conversation around his own sex crimes had me feeling some type of way. seeing alexa nikolas suddenly lack the nuanced take so desperately needed for this situation was also incredibly disheartening. i would, in a sense, be glad if the man who assaulted me got some sort of justice for the abuse he faced. I sympathize with him in that regard. But i would not be able to cope with, hypothetically, the world painting him solely as a victim when he is both victim & perpetrator & there must be a way to highlight both at once. If that makes sense lol
@tegantalks9612
@tegantalks9612 8 дней назад
Please take this with a grain of salt because I am not a mental health professional, but Alexis sounds like a covert narcissist. According to the Cleveland Clinic, here are the traits of a covert narcissist: 1. An overinflated sense of self importance- during the initial coverage of Quiet on Set she seemed mad her story wasn’t featured more. 2. Lack of empathy- this is very clear when she literally doxxed one of Drake Bell’s victims. 3. A need for excessive admiration- you can tell by the way she acts in her podcasts how much she wants people to love and admire her for her charity work. This would also explain her very harsh reaction to being called irrelevant. 4. A sense of entitlement- her insistence upon monetizing her trauma because she didn’t get, what she felt, was fair compensation from Nickelodeon. 5. Surrounding yourself with superficial relationships- sounds kind of like her relationship with Christy and Lindsay. 6. Taking advantage of other for personal gain- the fact that she commandeered the whole Eat Predators operation as well as her sharp turn in defending Drake Bell. 7. Resistance to change- she doesn’t seem to want to go the therapy and do the work to get over her trauma. She seems to want to stay in this victim mentality because she can monetize it and get attention from it. Again, please do not take this comment as me trying to diagnose Alexis or trying to say all victims/survivors of trauma do this, this is just a pattern I’ve noticed looking over the evidence from things Alexis herself has put out.
@the_erin_zone
@the_erin_zone Месяц назад
dude you are converting me like i finally have to break the seal and become a commentary youtuber. watch this space
@the_erin_zone
@the_erin_zone Месяц назад
on the taran killam part.... didn't he date a 16 year old amanda bynes??? i might be mixing him up with seth mcfarland.
@the_erin_zone
@the_erin_zone Месяц назад
like why start there at a guy to guy betrayal
@alexisgrey3633
@alexisgrey3633 Месяц назад
I lost respect for Alexa with the drake bell thing and how badly she responded to criticism for it, but recently i actually had to unfollow her on IG because she basically has started this huge campaign against Kamala Harris, Kamala isnt perfect yes but seriously a Trump presidency would be millions of times worse, she also paints Kamala as this genocidal zionist when i have a feeling theres evidence she actually supports ceasefire in palestine, like yeah Kamala isnt perfect but i dunno, seeing a white woman like Alexa going in so hard on a black woman doesnt sit right with me, especially since she hyped up a third party candidate white woman in comparison, and people have been going in very hard disproportinately on poc and jewish celebs and public figures in general for not openly doing what they see as enough for Palestine to the point of literal harassment and bullying.
@CharlieConcepts-pw9ur
@CharlieConcepts-pw9ur 5 месяцев назад
To be fair, Alexa's battle plan might be to act supportive and Friendly with Drake Bell while she is working to hold Dan Schneider accountable. And the moment she has accomplished that, she might turn back around to hold Drake Bell accountable. Ideologically, that would line up with the ideological concept of "Holding space for people, while still holding them accountable". Cynically, I think that by showing outward support for Drake Bell. She's likely earned his trust. Gained access to information from him that she wouldn't other wise be able to gain access to. And thus gained valuable information that she can use to expose Drake Bell as soon as the "Quiet on Set" discourse dies down.
@ophie-dokie
@ophie-dokie 5 месяцев назад
I would be glad if this was the case!! I think she could have done without liking all of his instagram posts maybe if it's a long plan but yeah maybe even Drake's edited version of the claim will prove to her that he just shouldn't have been sexting fans and she'll report fairly on that, I really hope she would if she makes those videos but I'm not sure the public tide of acceptance toward drake bell being a Minor Sexter would change now that theyve all decided it was fine as long as he had thought she was an older teen and then stopped.
@CLJlovesmal
@CLJlovesmal 5 месяцев назад
Umm...Alexa had a video on Drake, one of her "EXPOSES" video. I was in the middle of it. A few days after the documentary was out, I went back to finish it- the video is now private. I'd seen her reaction video to the doc's first 2 episodes and in the comments people said she needed to take the video down. I guess she listened.
@karmaklutz
@karmaklutz 5 месяцев назад
@@Du-yw1pz he did do stuff with minors, but didn't get in trouble for it. He was abused, yes, but he also has the choice to be a survivor or an abuser, and he is both. Dont make claims u know nothing about. Do your research before u sound like a 🤡
@CharlieConcepts-pw9ur
@CharlieConcepts-pw9ur 5 месяцев назад
@@Du-yw1pz You don't have access to those court sealed documents. So how can you explain in full detail what happened?
@ophie-dokie
@ophie-dokie 5 месяцев назад
@@CLJlovesmal if you haven't already found it, this twitter user has a copy of the Alexa video about Drake Bell, I downloaded it from here and watched it on my computer, I'm going to be using clips in my next video but I found it very illuminating :) twitter.com/ItEndsNow_Blog/status/1772292019517297023?t=_zTmxFXB5m56BcB5mOxQjw
@SMP2390
@SMP2390 5 месяцев назад
This is a good analysation and hope that CCR and Alexa can learn from especially Alexa because even though her intentions are good but I feel like get trama still has her a bit by the neck to the point that the issues that she highlights trigger her and gives a biased stance which can hurt her cause most times.
@AnxiousBox98
@AnxiousBox98 5 месяцев назад
Im really enjoying this video! Watching it right now and info is v interesting. One suggestion i have is to edit out the inbetween dead air you have left in. It adds a lot of space that is not necessary. I hope this doesnt come across as hurtful or over critical. Youve gained a subscriber 😊
@ophie-dokie
@ophie-dokie 5 месяцев назад
Thank you so much!! You definitely don't come across as hurtful or critical, I appreciate the note! I was kind of working through a lot of my thoughts as I was talking/filming and I think I was trying to strike a balance in editing between showing that/feeling conversational and leaving a little bit too much of it so I definitely appreciate hearing how it comes across and will be mindful of it in the future!
@karmaklutz
@karmaklutz 5 месяцев назад
Remember, u must pay attention to what streaming services these shows r on and who the people r that own these companies, such as HBO Max, Netflix, etc.
@Steph-zo5zk
@Steph-zo5zk 5 месяцев назад
I'm glad to know this information about eat predators, thank you. I love the nuance corner
@ophie-dokie
@ophie-dokie 5 месяцев назад
thank you so much!! I was giggling to myself the whole time I was taping the sign up I think it's a new channel staple lol
@SalTheeSalt-jd6uu
@SalTheeSalt-jd6uu 6 дней назад
Hi Ophie do you take critique from audiences who are interested in this topic on how to maybe make these videos more understandable. Idk if it’s just me, but this was pretty hard to follow with the bouncing back and forth between editing inserts of you clarifying things and the segments of you saying “xyz, but that’ll be clear later”. There’s been abt 3 “oh you’ll know later as this video is structured on” comments and im abt half way through the video. Like I said, it’s hard to follow and I have questions abt when this is all taking place in a linear timeline. The long pauses of seconds of dead air where you take to think is also rather distracting and for me gives moments for my attention to be drawn to something off topic when it happens, and it can be difficult to refocus back on what you say as it happens fairly often. Lastly, the lack of clarity on who’s who in this set up makes some of the things you speak of confusing. You are clearly well spoken and while I don’t necessarily agree with some of your video topics, I appreciate the insight you have and have been following your vids on this specific topic for awhile as we come from a similar place of once being fans of ep and Alexa Nicholas. You have many great insights to say, and you have a audience who’s engaged with them, my advice going forward is perhaps find some ways to make your videos 1) clearer + more concise 2) less dead air moments 3) streamlined into some kind of linear timeline perhaps with a short acknowledgment of who’s who and 4) less “oh you’ll understand what I’m referencing now 5 minutes later bc of the structure.” That needs to be structured better. I want to be able to understand what’s going on better as a audience member invested in following this and I would love to see what you do with any kind of pointers you get to utilize going forward!! Thank you for your time and dedication to the care around a heavy and nuanced topic such as this.
@ophie-dokie
@ophie-dokie 6 дней назад
oh if youre going through the series the later videos are much better on this front lol, I was still only a couple months into making/editing videos at this point, I think I've gotten a lot better at presentation and whenever someone comments a timestamp and i watch to see what they meant on these older ones im like.. oh! lots of growth quick lol.
@JNDReacts
@JNDReacts 7 дней назад
1:54:13 Wait, does she ever mention having a problem with Tarran due to his age-inappropriate relationship with Amanda Bynes when she was a minor?
@MadisonL36
@MadisonL36 5 месяцев назад
You articulate so well. I could listen all day
@ophie-dokie
@ophie-dokie 5 месяцев назад
this is like a dream comment to receive! thank you so much
@hoodys
@hoodys 5 месяцев назад
1:37:18 i have still never fully understood what she came forward about her ‘cracking up’ about not getting a book deal is so….
@ophie-dokie
@ophie-dokie 5 месяцев назад
i even rewatched the livestream she did and it was very "working on zoey 101 was bad" which like I said in the video, like, fair, come out about that, I don't think kids should work in those environments either. But yeah straight up laughable to pretend like having not gotten along with child costars would have been a ticket to a book deal I think it really says a lot lol
@DrBoyZepho
@DrBoyZepho 11 дней назад
​@@ophie-dokiewasn't she groomed on set by her ex husband or did I misunderstand that situation
@JNDReacts
@JNDReacts 7 дней назад
1:41:46 Is that a Glee reference I’m hearing?
@sarah30932
@sarah30932 5 месяцев назад
I came for the lesbian masterdoc and I’m staying here for the nuance corner! 💕
@ophie-dokie
@ophie-dokie 5 месяцев назад
Yay thank you!!!! So glad you enjoyed I'm ngl I was definitely hoping the lesbians would come back for these lol
@lisa-lisa-lisa
@lisa-lisa-lisa 3 месяца назад
the Neds declassified people are awful, laughing at the abuse in the documentary is them in a nutshell. CCR is a clout goblin and terrible in a different way and AN is problematic in a different way from all of them. last time I checked on drew she was hiring scabs.
@meesh11p
@meesh11p 5 месяцев назад
Your content is amazing - look forward to more
@bugbug75
@bugbug75 Месяц назад
Ive always found her 'movement' to be very uncomfortable and not actually supportive of survivors. It's always been supportive for just alexa.
@kamalasheiress4035
@kamalasheiress4035 5 месяцев назад
She helped get Brian Peck finally exposed. It wasn’t JUST business insider, it was a combination of multiple actors in an uncoordinated movement. In a world of lies, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
@maximusprime3459
@maximusprime3459 5 месяцев назад
Hol' up. Anybody whos been following the situation of child xesual abuse in Hollywood long enough has known about Brian Peck for years. I'd heard of his name even before An Open Secret was released. Its sad that it took nearly two decades for a larger amount of people to know about him.
@maximusprime3459
@maximusprime3459 5 месяцев назад
Brian Peck was a known problem. It was kept largely quiet publicly but knowing the circles he ran with was no surprise he was a creep.
@abbyygross
@abbyygross 5 месяцев назад
i agree with you 100000%
@xixislibrary164
@xixislibrary164 2 месяца назад
Not related but your black lipstick looks so good.
@continuallycountingchicken7338
@continuallycountingchicken7338 7 дней назад
I’ve thought the “logo” of EP is sexuality’s since I first saw it. I don’t understand it one bit. Nope. Not at all. 🤷🏻‍♀️
@ophie-dokie
@ophie-dokie 5 месяцев назад
NEXT DAY UPDATE AND PETITION LINK: Alexa is still out there spouting off into the universe, as Lindsay would say. She's started an exclusive run of $45 nick themed Eat Predators Tees and is blasting HBO/ID for profiting off of the documentary I guess?? I assume she knew she wouldn't be paid when she agreed to sit, this feels like the same deal as deciding after the fact that she wasn't happy that featuring on Vulnerable didn't mean that she owned it in perpetuity and got to make big decisions about it. I think the pushback she's getting about these designs is very well justified. I'm attaching a petition started by a former member of Eat Predators here: www.change.org/p/alexa-nikolas-must-resign-from-eat-predators?signed=true
@lajourdanne
@lajourdanne Месяц назад
Love that you waited to be invited to sit with your cat 🐱 ❤
@user-hr6lo8yt6x
@user-hr6lo8yt6x 4 месяца назад
30:00 👋 Hey just a small correction (because i have for some reason listened to every episode of the Ned's pod because i constantly need audio playing in my ears): a lot of the clickbaity stuff particularly about Devon and Lindsey's relationship has been taken out of context and nothing they talk about regarding that was ever on set. They didn't start dating until months after the show wrapped. Theyve addressed this on the pod because people seem to think they were hooking up during production of the show. Honestly, they mostly talk about their lives as adults on the podcast and it's not so much about Ned's declassified except when they have guests on the show. I only say this because from what they tell about the set, it seems like the gold standard of what a set with a large child cast should be like. I think if you just watch out of context clips the picture might be very different than the one they portray in the full episodes.
@ophie-dokie
@ophie-dokie 4 месяца назад
oh that's really reassuring to hear!!! I'm so glad to hear that it wasn't stuff that was happening on set, I definitely just saw stuff out of context. Thank you for letting me know!!
@DrBoyZepho
@DrBoyZepho 11 дней назад
what about when they were talking about Lindsey being "passed around" the cast while not sober. that was a little odd to me the flippant way they talked about it
@user-hr6lo8yt6x
@user-hr6lo8yt6x 11 дней назад
@@DrBoyZepho I remember this. They like to clip things out of context for shock value reasons I'm sure (which I think is a terrible idea considering what people are going to assume based on other shows' sets), but Lindsey was just making a gross joke about how she told one cast member she liked him but then held hands on a date at the movies with a different cast member. I don't know about the not sober thing? She definitely had serious substance use problems for years and talks about it a lot on the podcast (she is now sober), but I don't think that was until years later. It was certainly after her relationship with Devon which started after the show ended (and was also more innocent than clips make it seem cause they never even slept together (I hate that I know this lol))
@yanksrgreat
@yanksrgreat 5 месяцев назад
some fair points but ryder said he was more concerned about how it made hollywood look and pizza gate so no i don't buy they had any remorse at all
@yanksrgreat
@yanksrgreat 5 месяцев назад
really need a follow up video since it seems alexa is turning her thing into a cult
@ophie-dokie
@ophie-dokie 5 месяцев назад
​@@yanksrgreat working on a follow-up now! I'm not positive I've got what you mean on my list yet but if you check my community post and none of those hit on what you mean I'd love to hear more!!
@tutu3909
@tutu3909 4 месяца назад
You have good analysis, but your microphone girl is not that great.
@ophie-dokie
@ophie-dokie 4 месяца назад
LOL the new one just came today so anything i upload after the end of april should be way better!!! totally agree, that lav mic was a real struggle. Thank you for sticking with the audio quality enough to notice the analysis at all I really appreciate it
@DiezDedosDown
@DiezDedosDown 12 дней назад
I really want to listen to what you have to say but you do so much table setting that I am completely lost as to what your point is. Say what you need to say. Why are you couching it in so many pillows that I'm forever lost in what your point even was? I'm trying to watch this video and understand but omg! you've permission to have an opinion and express it without having to explain yourself first. This is so hard to watch. I don't understand what you're saying.
@akilasarathy959
@akilasarathy959 Месяц назад
I love Alyson Stoner but she used better help sponsorship without checking and all her comments on there video warned her not to. I stopped watching and following after that
@karmaklutz
@karmaklutz 5 месяцев назад
Dont give creators money, I never will
@catherinecampbell1215
@catherinecampbell1215 5 месяцев назад
I only give Sims CC creators money. They tend to make some content the Sims won’t make. Other than that, I don’t give creators money.
@puccahyeon
@puccahyeon 10 дней назад
10:10 ME TOO
@ledjeet2985
@ledjeet2985 5 месяцев назад
Great presentation.
@dwaalatticsalt7886
@dwaalatticsalt7886 4 месяца назад
I’m loving this video and have kept an open mind as I’ve only recently started becoming disillusioned with Alexa, but those letters written by the BMW cast were not written when they were children. The youngest of them was 19, and the oldest in his late 20’s. And either way, 19 is plenty old enough to know a grown adult having sex with a teenager isn’t ok. They victim blamed the teenage victim and only apologized for the letter when they were given a heads up that they were going to be released. They’ve had over a decade to apologize for them on their own, but chose to keep those actions to themselves. I don’t think they were being genuine or remorseful at all.
@bluebaron6858
@bluebaron6858 5 месяцев назад
Nice cat
@SushiStriker
@SushiStriker 5 месяцев назад
Jesus Christ, this is 2 hours of the pettiest bullshit. Eat predators, including Ophie Dokie.
@mv9653
@mv9653 3 месяца назад
Did you call someone a predator for being petty???
@SushiStriker
@SushiStriker 3 месяца назад
@@mv9653 Read it again if you can’t figure it out
@missnubooty
@missnubooty 5 месяцев назад
No longer a member as of today and I’ve spent the past week and a half (?) going through almost this exact thought process. I’m a very emotional person but the constant merch plugs, “fake” crying and turning personal beef into a crusade against “all survivors” were starting to bug even me. “COREY FELDMAN IS DRAKE BELL” I didn’t even have to listen to the segment lmao. I still hope that she’ll address this one day, if she continues to support Drake publicly to the extent that she is right now
@ophie-dokie
@ophie-dokie 5 месяцев назад
thank you so much!! I was rewatching her Drake Bell reaction video (which imo comes across a lot less coached than a lot of her recent videos) for the follow up and she kept pointing out that Drake was doing Nick Sitcom acting faces during the victim's statement and how obviously not genuine that is but she's doing so much of it now herself with all the tearjerking during lives. I think a lot of the crusading she does is projection in a way, how much she hated Christy and then also all of this with being so so pro Drake Bell the way she wants everyone to unquestioningly back her.
@missnubooty
@missnubooty 5 месяцев назад
@@ophie-dokie it really does feel like what she says in any given situation goes and her people follow which is the craziest part
@missnubooty
@missnubooty 5 месяцев назад
I remember him doing the faces lol! It was smarmy then and it’s smarmy now. But everyone is either pure evil or an angel and I guess Drake’s in angelmode.
@91n3tr33
@91n3tr33 5 месяцев назад
Got roped up into the Alexa shit until today when watching her new vid. I blatantly remember her making fun of Matt. Made me so sad to see her flip like that. glad that I got recommended this video of yours
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