Down we go back down the Goodtimes rabbit hole with their take on Alice in Wonderland! It's Fall and they've got a lot of fountains... phelous.com / phelous
I think that the reason why Old Man never gets old as a joke is the fact that most of his humor comes from him interacting with different kinds of people and enviroments. So while he has his catchphrases like "Hieeee!" and "Completely useless now", he stays fresh by being in different situation everytime.
Plus he brings in new material like when one of the characters threatens to eat one of the alternate "old men" of one of the Beauty and the Beast movies, he "Sliders" his way out of there.
+AT Productions Yeah, that'd be like making a high-budget thriller movie that takes place in dreams and only show regular city streets and buildings in it, the only "dream wonder" being buildings that turn upside-down slowly. Wait...
+Gaucelm de Villaret Paprika is a fucking beautiful and crazy movie. You'll probably like it, but as with most anime you'll want to watch it with the original Japanese voice-acting + English subtitles. The dub is terrible imo.
okay in the book Alice does talk about a candle when she is shrinking for the first time but in the book she was comparing herself shrinking to a candle flame and wondering if she'll shrink until she is no more like a candle flame that goes out.
AND it's a satire on infinite numbers concept. The book is full of math! Author actually mocks the silliness of then-modern theories (like negative numbers, infinite decimals etc.) that can only exist in theory, instead of basic math that can be described with apples. You can add, reduce or even split apples, but you can't have X to the minus two apples. Or minus infinite apples etc.
Phelous, I'm sure you could easily get the rights to "Old Man" from GT Media for pennies. Do that and work on an official "Old Man" TV series. Ratings would go through the roof.
I've mentioned it somewhere, and this comment will most likely be lost under all the others, but I highly recommend the cheap knockoff of The Hunchback of Notre Dame. There is a scene where the love interest is in jail and sings and the prison bars come to life, but instead of fleeing, she ends her song and the bars go into place again while she whines that she can't get out. I watched this in 4th grade and was so insulted, I left class.
+MwieZorro I saw another cheap knockoff of the Hunchback of Notre Dame by Dingo pictures where the movie ends with Esmerelda walking free while Quasimodo is left in prison.
McCammalot The animated version makes her look much older than 7, which made this comment about books rather odd (was she lazy, not very smart or just not into reading ? ).
Serious lack of Phelous yelling "THE CARE BEARS DID IT BETTER!" I always wanted to see Alice and Gaston hang out together, I think they'd get along really well! I want to know what kind of things HE imagines compared to what SHE imagines...I feel like the two of them would have a 'Return to Oz' or 'Neverending Story' kind of adventure together:):)
[starts chanting] One pill makes you larger / and one pill makes you small / and the ones that mother gives you / don't do anything at all / go ask Alice / when she's ten feet tall ... (sorry, I couldn't resist.)
+Chris Wilson (Fantom979) I love White Rabbit, even though they called the Queen of Hearts the Red Queen. Oh well, that was a problem back in Lewis Carol's days, so eh, great song. Long live Grace Slick.
Yeah, not a big fan of Zach Snider. Though I am 100% positive that the movie inspired the Origin zombie map for Call of Duty Black Ops 2. So I am thankful for that.
I actually listened to an audiobook version of the original "Alice in Wonderland" story recently and was surprised to discover how much closer the Goodtimes version is to its source material. Of course, I'm not saying it's a good movie. A lot of the dialogue in this version is ripped straight from the book and comes off feeling very forced, like the narration at the beginning and the part with Alice saying she feels like candle at 7:21.
Hey! It's me! Fyrekobra! From Deviantart! Hi there! Also, a lot of Goodtimes stuff is much closer to the source material, but it seems that you're right about the delivery of the lines, though.
+leahcim That's pretty much exactly what this is! My mom bought me a "Princess Movie Collection" dvd from our local dollar store that was just a collection of the princess films made by this company. So, on it is a copy of the Beauty and the Beast movie that Old Man comes from......
LittleBlueTrain67, In The tradition of Disneys live action adaptations, I’d be down for a live action Stoned Gremlin adaptation of Good Times’ beauty and the beast with Allison as Beauty, Brian or Brad as Beast and Phelous as Old Man. HEEEEEEEEEEEE!
I have a feeling(Not that tonight's gonna be a good night) that Phelous is doomed to review every Goodtimes move for the rest of his Reviewing carreer. Just like how Spoony is doomed to review every final fantasy game, and how Bobsheaux is doomed to review every Alpha and Omega Movie, and how the Angry Video Game Nerd is Doomed to review every game in the LJN library!
You may have made a joke about your old man impression being over used at this point, but I still love it. The laugh especially gets me every single time.
I really love these. As I've never seen or heard of many of these animations and they are just such perfect material. You keep doing Old Man. The uninvited guest that makes anything better.
I once babysit a little girl who had this particular Alice in Wonderland dvd. I showed her the Disney one, and she hated it, saying it was 'boring and not as good' XD BTW, you should do more of these Good Time Entertainment films.
I guess she really likes fountains. It's been seven years since this comment; any chance you can check on her and find out if she became a waterbender?
+MrsXanatrix Nah, of course not. The link's just there for the info. And since Robert Walker pointed out, it's already on RU-vid, so there it is, for the reviewer's future horror.
Best part of when Phelous does a cartoon review is that you know there's going to be a Crazy Old Man bit. I get a look on my face like Spongebob every time I see that guy :D
I've been reading Alice in Wonderland to my daughter at bedtime and everytime I tell her to come on it's time to read I catch myself singing that stupid "Alice in Wonderland, growning tall, getting small down the rabbit hole she'll fall." Its pretty sad, but funny.
The Snowman movie (Magic Gift of the Snowman IIRC) is actually their backstory. Not that it matters, even in this film they're completely useless. HEEEEEEEEE.
Loganberries were accidentally created in 1881, sixteen years after Alice in Wonderland was published. Boysenberries were a further hybrid from the loganberry, and only came about in like the 1920s, decades after Lewis Carrol's death. Also, neither of them are as easily available as regular, non-hybrid fruits, so what the hell?
I must say this cartoon version is pretty accurate to the book. like 90% of the plot silliness you complained about was straight from the original story.
I figure it's mainly because they normally can't be bothered to come up with a good adaptation, so they just fallow the book, whether it makes for good cinema or not.
Clint Howard The age gap makes it kinda creepy but I doubt it's not something the average teenager fantasized about back then. Disney Snow White is bae, though.
loliH9 one of the reasons is, because books and stories need to be changed a little or tinkered to make for a better movie. Things that work in a book may prove to be difficult to convey to an audience or too difficult to animate, so they're cut or melt into other aspects of the story, like how Disney's Alice and Wonderland's Queen of Hearts is a combination of the Red Queen and Queen of Hearts. These cheap knockoffs can't think about all of these aspects or of what to change, so they just rush it into production with as little changes as possible to save time and money on writing.
Math. The original story is about math and how then-new theories on it were silly to the point of absurdity... Author was a math professor and he thought imaginary and negative numbers are ridiculous.
... I'll NEVER get tired of those Old Man jokes. They make me giddy everytime I see him in your reviews. XD And for a movie such as Alice in Wonderland, you would think it would be a little more creative.
Yes! I remember him saying in another video (I can’t remember which one) that more accurate to the source material doesn’t automatically make something good.
I don't know if you should really make fun of stuff in the movie that actually happens in the original story, which I've read. For example Alice really does drink from a bottle marked "Drink Me" when she saw that it didn't have "poison" written on it. It was because she had read several nice little stories that were common in Lewis Carrolls' day about horrible things happening to children because they didn't listen to what their friends told them, such as if you drink much from a bottle marked poison, it's bound to disagree with you, sooner or later. On the other hand, the Caterpillar smoked from a bong instead of a glass of juice with a crazy straw. Make fun of that all you like.
I think as other people has said before about these movies following the story,just because they do doesn't mean that it will be good same how books don't always translate into movies. Which is why people say disney movies do better because they either streamline or Mish mash from other versions of the tail to tell a better story that would be problematic or not make sense. That's not to say that others couldn't make a competent story while staying true. It's just what worked back then dosnt work now.
I think Ocean Group had a hand in this production... The rabbit sounds like he's using Don Brown's King Kai voice, and I'm pretty sure Alice is Venus Terzo (female Ranma among other voices...)
+Davethe3rd I think a good number of Good Times Entertaintment films featured Ocean Dub. Check the credits and you'll definitely recognise their voice acting crew.
well the Narrator Is played by Gary Chalk and the Mad Hatter and the cards are played by Ian James Corlett (who funny enough also played Goku in the ocean dub)
This is one of the few adaptations that actually keeps the part of her neck growing and has the line of "You must be mad, because you wouldn't be here otherwise."
+AnnoyingSquib They were all in the 1999 NBC version. Alice even had dark hair! I remember liking it when I was younger, not sure of how good it is by my current standards though.
I remember seeing that one. It had Whoopi Goldberg as the Cheshire Cat right? As I recall, for a place that seemed interesting and backward, Wonderland sure was dull in that one. They had everyone in it but it was so boring.
AnnoyingSquib Yeah it was that one. Looking at clips of it, it seemed really comprehensive plot-wise, but like you mentioned, Wonderland itself was was pretty bland.
+AnnoyingSquib Its a weird paradox, the more accurate versions are usually dull. The Disney version isn't the most accurate, but it got the spirit far better then the rest, and Tim Burton created a bastardized version that was dull AND not at all accurate. That is somehow getting a sequel in three month's.
+Tyler Bioshock R I personally enjoy the video game American McGee's Alice I think its a very interesting take on the tale and it does include everyone while making wonderland look interesting. The sequel is also pretty good but that's my personal taste and I would like to see a good theatrical take on the tale.
12:38 Alice: "What's this? The door to White Rabbit's house is unlocked? This must mean... I'm EXPECTED! :D Be our Guest, Be our Guest, eat all our food, leave us dead! Well, don't mind if I do! " Old Man: "Aw MAN! Why couldn't I have had HER as my sixth kid instead of Monsieur Rodent??"
Who is that guy who keeps getting his neck snapped by the old man anyway? What movie is he from? Also, while this was a very poor telling of the original story... one has to remember that every character in Wonderland is insane or works on nonsense logic so really some of the things Phelous commented on were IN the actual story as well.
Phelous' reviews are always hilarious, but the craptastic animated movies are the best! Add in Old Man antics, and I laugh far harder than I probably should! Nice job!
