I have no idea why so few adaptations of Cinderella don't just go with an obvious fix as to why looking for a shoe size makes so little sense; make the ball a masquerade. Everyone's in costume. That way, the Prince wouldn't know what she looks like, and the shoe thing becomes a lot more plausible.
The Muppets Cinderella did something like that , she didn't know he was the prince and he liked that she talked to him like a normal person since she thought he was a gardener. So he invites her and they plan to wear flowers so they can find each other but the flower plan is ruined when the king gives the flowers away as gifts so everyone wears the flowers. Then when the whole search happens he wishes that the shoe would fit her but thinks its not since everyone says she didn't go and he thought the girl he was looking for was a princess.
"Blinded by his love for his new wife." Okay I refuse to believe that he married the Bride of Frankenstein there of his own free will...someone clearly had a gun to his head
It would have been more interesting if she was ridiculously beautiful and him being too shallow to realize she's in fact a horrible person. But no, because beauty equals goodness, apparently.
Snl took this idea and rolled with it in their Disney Housewives sketch. It’s also implied that the prince only married Cinderella to add her one of a kind glass slippers to his extensive shoe collection.
"Hey, in the original story the stepsisters got attacked and blinded by birds. That's too violent for children so what should we replace it with?" "they get handsome husbands" "but sir, I-" "Husbands!"
Don't forget that (in the original story) one of them cut off her toes and the other cut off her heel to fit the glass slipper, too. And the prince fell for it both times. So not only is he a Gentleman (tm) but he's also totes smart.
Actually that is only exclusive to the Grimm Brothers version of the story, what this film and the Disney version take from Charles Perrault version of the story (Disney even credited his version to him), were the step sisters were given a free pass, though it was said that one sister was actually a lot less mean then the other sister and her mother.
"You have been cruel to me for as long as we've lived together and made my life a living hell, but what the heck, I forgive you. Your remorse would not have been different if I didn't get to marry my prince or anything."
yeah and as to her face I've seen version where the ball was a masked ball and the story was first published in late 1690's when makeup became popular again and women begun to put white paint on face and powered and rose on cheeks and were reddening their lips(this is even earlier than 1690's. I mean look at queen elizabeth I) so if Cinderella was to be dressed in fashion then it was possible the price wouldn't have recognised her. Makeup changes one's face a lot
I'm a friend of Ellen Kennedy (one of the voice actors credited for this movie), and here's what she had to say to me about it. "I honestly don’t remember doing this but I must have. It would have been one of my very first v/o jobs. I know Mike Donovan hired me for a bunch of these straight to video versions of fairy tales and classic stories. I remember doing a Black Beauty but I don’t remember the other fairy tales I did. In answer to your second question, of course it was worth it! It may be terrible but it gave me my first opportunity to cut my teeth in this part of the industry. Those of us who voiced it still took pride in what we did and did it to the best of our ability at the time." Guess we all have to start somewhere.
By marrying her sisters off to handsome but poor lords Cinderella made sure that they'd always be poor and have to show up in court every year in order to scrape and bow before her as the queen. That is how I choose to believe the story really went.
That's only in the Grimm brothers version of the story, this and Disneys version was based off Charles Perrault version of the story where the sisters were given a free pass.
KaylaTheHyena And if it's a Disney retelling then you're lucky to have any biological parents let alone just idiot brain dead daddy. I think Disney has a mausoleum under their headquarters where they keep the remains of dead parents.
@@smb-c3po Helped by the fact that he called out on "Gentleman" here for being an awful father while admitting himself not being entirely wholesome either? :D
I love how out of place the father's clothes look like compared to the other characters. At the wedding he looks like a cowboy, or a 1930s reporter about to yell: "Cristal shooes? What a scoop!".
I remember finding Good Times movies at yard sales for (usually) free and everytime I would take them home and regret it and end up selling it at yard sales myself. It was a vicious cycle.
Have you ever tried printing out the covers of the films they were rip offs of and replaced the covers to trick people into buying them like Good Times usually does?
I think my favorite part of Phelous's review of these cash in cartoons is calling out the lazy fat jokes. It'd be one thing if they made one or two food jokes (didn't matter who the character was) but it's another thing when an entire character's persona is "They're fat they like food! Food food food!"
About this, in my "project" I have a character, one of the most important and powerful in the setting, who plays a big role in the story. But they also are pretty fat, and I wonder if it would be normal to make some jokes about them
In one of the earlier versions of the tale(pre-Grimm), it was more of a semi-masquerade ball, in others they were celebrating the prince's coming of age. Only in later versions it became the whole brideshow-affair. Also, some versions mention a kind of veil, the fairy cast in order to make Cinderella unrecognizable to not only her family, but also other people, including the prince. Hence the importance of both the shoe and Cinderella's punctual departure.
I don't know who keeps complaining about the background info. That's the most interesting parts most of the time. Few reviewers these days take time to actually inform you about the thing they're making fun of. I really hope you keep it up, Phelous.
(Personally I would have found it funny, if this happened) Prince puts the slipper on a foot and it fits Old Man: The slipper fits me perfectly, we have to get married now! Prince: You're obviously not the woman I danced with, but if the shoe fits you must be her. Old Man: Yeah, I'm definitely that whoever... when do I get my money? Hhhhheeeeeeeeee!
Phelan Porteous fair point. I didn't see that before I posted and decided to leave it. though, and correct me if I'm wrong, didn't the original version kill him, too?
I actually don't remember reading about the father being a full-on "villain". Most of the renditions I've read make him a weak person who was overpowered by his wicked wife, too afraid to say anything to her.
Well, in "Into the Woods", he just didn't care about her as he was always drunk. But in some of the pantos, he's still around and more of a bumbling character who doesn't realize his new wife is after his fortune.
@@casualvanilla in other tellings of the story, Cinderella wore gold slippers, which didn't have heels. (High heels used to be for rich and powerful men, women wore flats). I'm just questioning which is more uncomfortable, gold slippers, or glass ones. 'Slippers' are defined as a type of loose, light indoor footwear, and you are right, it's an English term.
@@yippedoodah Actually, I wish that was the story. Instead of a ball, Cinderella goes to a slumber party, with glass bunny slippers and beautiful silk pajamas.
It's actually a translation issue. In the original story she wore slippers made from (squirrel) fur and somewhere along the line it was changed to glass (misstranslation maybe?) I found this out on an episode of QI with Stephen Fry.
It actually makes sense that the prince has prosopagnosia, since he cannot determine who cinderella is, but when he hears her voice, he instantly recognizes her. Also, that is the best ending to cinderella ever, that you described phelan, thanks.
I wish one of these adaptations would just come out and admit, the prince had a foot/shoe fascination . the fairy godmother knew this, that's why she gave Cindy glass shoes, so he could see her in heels and barefoot at the same time. "oh my, that fair maiden left her shoe behind!"......SNOOOORT!! on top of that, he knew exactly what she looked like, he was just thinking "sweet! an excuse to look at and hold the bare feet of every girl in the kingdom, happy birthday to me! hyeeeeeeeeeeee8D oh God look what years of watching phelous, critic, and their ilk has done to me!!
I wonder if Goodtimes ever expected one of their shitty bootleg characters to get so popular because of an Internet reviewer that the character gets his own T-shirt. That's amazing. :D Awesome review once again.
Now you mention it, he kinda does look a little like Balthazar Cavendish from Milo Murphy's Law (which takes place in the same universe as Phineas and Ferb)
Am I the only one who thinks the entire story of Cinderella would be more realistic if the stepsisters were actually very gorgeous and talented, and SHE was the one who was unattractive, therefore giving her kind heart more of an impact? I mean, you're more likely to come across such a situation, really. But it's a fairytale, so I guess that's not the point. XD
That's probably better since its about goodness in the heart morally, so makes for a better version tbh. There is a version of the wicked stepsister and Gregory Mcguire wrote it and you feel sympathetic towards the stepsister more. He also re-wrote Alice, Snow White and of course Wizard of Oz in Wicked (Wicked is my favourite musical and book).
You're absolutely right, but back in the old days, these fairy tale writers were very superficial. If you were good, you had to be beautiful: beautiful princess, handsome prince. If you were bad, you were ugly, usually a witch. Now adays, it would be the other way around: the witch would be beautiful and the protagonists would be ugly. But back then, it was all about looks.
@@ExplorerDS6789 I don't know, as a society, we're still really fixated about looks, especially in Hollywood. It amuses me when a character in a film is described as being ugly or unattractive when in reality, no-one would describe them as such. Though I guess we don't necessarily equate beauty with absolute goodness to the extent that fairy tales did.
When the fairy godmother said "Their deeds will not go unpunished," I had a feeling that they really would go unpunished. Thanks movie, for making me right to have low expectations.
The voice actress who plays as Goodtime's Cinderella and from the Goodtime's Alice is the same voice actress to play female Ranma from Ranma 1/2 ... what a small world
The (very debatable) idea that hard work is how people become rich was definitely not around back in the days the fairy tale of Cinderella was thought up, and in those same old days the term "gentleman" strongly implied a man did not work at all. The term "working class' didn't come out of nowhere, and it stood in contrast to the rich and genteel. Why GoodTimes felt the need to revise history by slipping in a little Horatio Alger-style BS is beyond me, but let's at least be conscious of how our understanding of these things has changed. Despite the underlying reality not changing quite so much.
This movie comes from the creators of Old Man HEEE-EEEE and was apparently made with crazy crack, clearly any accurate grasp of history or economics is beyond its grasp, left for those stanch defenders of accuracy, Dingo Pictures.
Just like the Disney version, I think she looks better in her "sooty rags" than with the "super ultra-beautiful deluxe magical makeover." Also, her name is supposed to be Ella (hence "Cinder Ella"), as she sweeps the cinders from the fireplace and gets covered in soot. So again like the Disney version, the other characters do indeed create a new nickname from her demeaning nickname instead of using her ACTUAL name.
@@WxIxLxLxIxAxMxSI do wonder if there was a meaning behind the memorable nickname in other languages since it was supposed to be an insulting nickname, which I had no idea until now.
Regarding Phelous' suggestion that Cinderella go to the prince herself, instead of wait for him to come to the house, she actually does in the original version of Rodgers and Hammerstein's _Cinderella_ (with Julie Andrews in the titular role). Hammerstein also got rid of the Fairy Godmother telling Cinderella to fetch her the pumpkin and animals, by having the Fairy Godmother ask Cinderella how she expects to go to the ball with no coach, and _she_ suggests transforming the pumpkin and the animals (something I wish more adaptations would do).
I have yet to watch the Julie Andrews version (I personally grew up with the Brandi version), but if it's like the 2013 Broadway version, I assume it's when she's still disguised as a peasant (again, assuming that element is in the Andrews version) and Cinderella suggests it as fun, lighthearted talk. But I personally don't see how her suggesting those things knowingly to her fairy godmother requires that much suspension of disbelief, especially since fairy tales all of magic is common knowledge even to those who don't use it.
The story of Cinderella would make a bit more sense if the ball was a masquerade ball. That would explain why the prince doesn't know what Cinderella looks like because everyone at the ball was wearing masks.
That's one way of doing it, the other way would be to have the Slipper used to narrow down the list of Woman to send to see him as letting the sole heir to the thrown wonder around to the homes of literally every eligible woman in the kingdom is not a good idea, and a glass slipper would only fit a small number very well as it has no flex,
I kind of like the idea of blind Prince because it would require the characters to develop more chemistry together through dialogue rather than go down the "love at first glance" route which so many versions of the story do. It would buck the fairytale trend a little, Possibly going so far as to have her transform back to her rags and the price not even notice if the adaptation is bold enough to change elements of the story in that way.
"and cinderella saw to it that her sisters both married two handsome lords." those poor lords. they probably tried to blackmail the prince or something and that was their punishment.
Dream on. Cinderella was beat to death by her wicked step mother and the events of the film are simply her dying thoughts and dreams... Everything she wanted to do with her life, what she knew she deserved rather than hatred and beatings... love. And the prince was the angel who carried her beyond the pale into heaven's embrace... WHAT DID YOU MAKE ME THINK, PHELOUS?! Also, sad but true, but a father's love for his wife can make him blind to the painfully obvious. Cinderella's more of a parable at the beginning... Doesn't make Gentle Man any less of a cheese for the neglect though... Unless he literally wasn't present.
I think Cinderella's might be Ella, and Cinderella was just made of Cinder + Ella. Its not an uncommon mockery to join someone's name with something thats offensive depending on the context.
In the animated Disney movie, Cinderella is her birth name, but the 2015 live-action film wanted to stick more with the tradional story so her name is Ella and got called Cinderella for sleeping near the fireplace and getting covered in ashes.
But they literally still kept calling her Cinderella in the narration at the end and the prince called her that too. If there was a correct name they should have used it
4:06 "His life was filled with beauty"........"Awkward....." Also, there are so many quotes to list them all XD This is one of the funniest videos ever
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Disney's Cinderella : I hope I can go to the ball. I want to have a fun, for at least one day....... Goodtime Cinderella : I want to go to the ball, because........I DON'T KNOW
Old Man gradually becoming less and less of an awful father by comparison after every one of these horrible things is hilarious. Also, even if we assume that Cindy the slave girl had an extremely petite shoe size, there still should be a bunch of females able to fit the shoe: little girls. Are we sure the Prince wasn't aiming for that? Cause I wouldn't put it past that gentleman.
In some, her real name is Ella. However, in most tales, her birth name is Cinderella so it depends on which Cinderella story you read. It would tell you her names.
9:03 That tower is leaning a bit precariously. Was the architect drunk when he designed this place? 10:19 Glad I wasn't the only one who thought the Prince looked liked cartoon Peter Venkman. 15:13 Is that even human? 16:05 AAAARGHHH! MAKE IT STOP!!!
Maybe the Prince wanted a husband from the very start and he did all the foot wearing crap to win time and not get married at all with the excuse of "I can't remember her face father!"
22:38 - If I was Cinderella, I'd be like: Not sure if genuinely sorry for what they've done, or just feel the urge to apologize now when I am about to become their queen [and would be able to punish them].
8:49 I say, the Fairy Godmother is being too merciful. You should see what the Grimms did to Cinderella's stepsisters. Those weirdly sadistic fairy-tale (Writers? Collectors? Whatever!) men from Germany gave Cinderella (they changed her name to Aschenputtel, too!) the ability to manipulate birds and pigeons into gouging her stepsisters' eyes out! As if them cutting their heels and toes off to make the glass slipper fit wasn't enough!
That would make more sense, either pretty and good at faking kindness to get his money, or she should be rich and ugly and he is desperate to get her money either way it explains what they see in each other
Good god this was funny. I burst out laughing when I noticed your Old Man shirt. Throughout the review it seemed to be mocking your rage. Your epilogue was perfect. Now we need a showdown between Old Man and Gentleman!
And honestly, one of my favorite tv adaptations of Cinderella, had her father pay for the neglect by working at the palace while his daughter was queen.
As low budget animated princesses go it's probably the closest to an attractive example as can be found. Not that that's saying much considering the competition...
Does anyone have an actual name in this movie? We have Cinderella, stepmother, step sisters, Gentleman, the Prince, the King and Queen, I didn't hear any names though.
Maybe it's supposed to represent the fact that these people could be anyone, that this story could be happening anywhere. Giving any character other than Cinderella a name would make it easier to pinpoint the culture that this story is meant to represent, ruining the ambiguity. ...or maybe the writers were just being lazy.
7:20 Since she got the name "Cinderella" because of the cinder and ash that got stuck on her, I guess her real name would be "Ella". Like, Cinder-Ella.
I believe certain version of the fairytale, and the surprisingly good Disney remake went with that, the classic Disney one just called her Cinderella. Which looking back, Dumbo did the same thing. That isn't his name, his name is Jumbo Jr, but everyone called him that. We keep calling these characters by there derogatory names! It blows my mind when you learn stuff like that.
"the surprisingly good Disney remake" Tyler, the remake isn't good. It thinks that "being good-at-heart" is the same thing as "being a doormat". Haven't you seen "Everything Wrong With Cinderella (2015)" by CinemaSins?
James Armstrong Look I don't for CinemaSins that much. I quite liked it, and while I get some of the complaints, you can't say its worse then say, Maleficent and Alice In Wonderland, those movies completely missed the point. You have the right to not like it, I won't argue with you.
16:22 If you're wondering or confused about what is on her plate, that she is eating well, that is a Sfogliatella, all known as (lobster tails) which is a pastry filled with cream.
