All That Matters Is Modern Horizons 2 | Dies To Removal Episode 33 | Magic: The Gathering 

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Professor: I'm only upset by one thing, and I'm sure everyone can guess what it is. Me: Is it the price? Professor: It's the price.

Dies to Removal ep 33: the gang admits Hasbro has traumatized them to the point of not caring about their trauma

"Oh whoops was it my turn? Overload cyclonic rift." The irony that this is an instant spell doesn't escape me.

In three years we’ll be paying 200$+ a box for awesome sets such as “pauper horizons”

When it comes to prices of new products I feel like we are being slapped on both cheeks. In a time when scalping is becoming a new pandemic, Wizards decides to raise the price across the board. Like the Prof said, Wizards has no care for a penniless player like myself. I haven't bought a product in a while do the rising prices, but nothing will change cause I don't matter.

The intro is great as always

"Why is it called 'Modern'?" "Because at the time you could only play cards with the sets using the 'Modern' border" "Oh, neat. So why don't these Commander and Conspiracy sets let me play these modern border cards in Modern?" "Those are supplemental sets, so they aren't REALLY sets, but you can play them in Legacy and Vintage." "What are those?" *shrug* "Okay, well time to play this all retro border deck in Modern with cards from the latest supplemental set"

"Two Abused Spouses Talk About How It's Not So Bad Once You Get Used To It." - alt title

My take on the pricing: I am honestly shocked that the whole Magic community isn't in revolt. They jacked up the price on what is essentially a must-have product if you want to remain competitive. They are selling powered-up cards for a premium and the loser is the player, especially the kids that would love to play the game but just can't afford it anymore. I'm all for premium versions and special collectible cards in Magic, but the game pieces, at least upon release, should be relatively affordable. Doubling the cost of something that costs them the same amount to produce, and trying to justify that on the back of "the cards are super-strong" is going down the road of some terrible precedents that they have been setting over the past few years. A lot of people tried to warn the community about where this was going to lead... and now we are here. This is not healthy for the game or for the player. They were told to double their profits, and instead of trying to expand the reach of the game and bring in new players, they are simply setting their sites on fleecing their customers. At what point does it break? It is not healthy in the long term for the game. They are simply trying to appease their shareholders with short term profits. At what point does the house of cards come tumbling down? When do we, as a community, say "enough is enough?" (and if they were just impacting Modern that would be one thing - but a LOT of these cards look specifically designed to impact other formats... especially Commander)

These prices are what has kept me from buying new product in like 4 years. I refuse to be a mindless consumer.

"Damp Kenobi" should have been the subtitle of Star Wars Ep. II

Prof: "If I were a gambling man - which I'm actually not" Also Prof: "It's the Modern Horizons 2 Booster Box Game!"

"This product may not be for you" Thats what I saw when I heard those numbers...

They've reached the ceiling as far as my wallet is concerned.

Stand-out cards from MH2 being Grief and Solitude? Insert obligatory joke about 2020.

That Simpsons scene, you are sadly so right :(

As a new magic player as of summer of 2020. The price for this type of set is the biggest turn off I’ve ever seen for someone. Even if someone makes good money. The price for this particular set is terrible and I feel like it caters to the fear of missing out before it gets even more expensive on the secondary market when people who have business and the cash to buy 50-100k worth of product and control it

I see the alt version fetchlands being crazy expensive and the regular fetch lands being pretty much the same price.

"I just like to collect relics of the past". Damn it made me laugh more than expected ^^.

re: price, the silver lining for me at least is that this is an unlimited print run. I can't afford to buy packs of this set, but I know a lot of other people will crack them for fetches and sell the chaff, so hopefully I'll be able to pick up the cards I like as singles. Asmora and Lonis are both so cool.

Companies listen to just one kind of feedback - profit.

the prices you quoted are insane, those are the same prices we are paying in Canada and we normally pay way more due to currency conversion

I feel bad for Prof. He's been in No-Exclusive-Spoiler timeout for the last 2 sets. Guessing Wizards got tired of him exposing their shifty practices.

the intro killed me

I'm priced out. Hope the singles are cheap.

I stoped playing magic when they started rotating modern and the power push we had roughly 2 years ago. I started playing again a few months ago thinking that they finally would stop flipping modern on its head, but that didn't stop. And now we have another rotation with modern horizons, I think the format and the game as whole is no longer for me. I'm happy for those who enjoy it because I remember the feeling of excitement with magic and that was great but I just keep feeling frustrated with power creep and the increase in prices, I played modern because I don't like running after cards all the time and having to go through constant change. I don't think I'll keep playing magic anymore. Great video though!

The increased pricing of these premium products just hammers home how disingenuous WOTC is about their reprint policy. They'll say and do anything to turn a profit, milking every last dollar from their player-base. Not only are people gambling on what they open, but also gambling on whether or not it'll be playable in months to come... because pushed and overpowered design choices have been rampant within the past 2 years. Also, I don't know how WOTC gets away with claiming they don't pay attention to the secondary market, yet ratchets up the prices on these sets due to the "value" of established cards.

I found myself proxying this year (for edh) for the first time ever. I just want to ejoy the game man without getting bankrupt. I love the collecting part too but with the ever increasing price of products and and endless stream of them there's just no way I can get all I need. There are sites that print proxies for 50 cents each that look almost like real magic cards, it's just such a relief, and everybody in my playgroup does the same. I have no problem with whale products like collectors boosters but when a box of regular draft boosters are 300 dollars that's just problematic.

"yearly podcast" sounds about right

Bottom line: WotC has gone the way of Activision, EA Sports, politicians, etc. "Shut up and take it"

That discussion about price is exactly how I feel post-Walking Dead/Universes Beyond. I hate it, I've stopped buying Magic in a vain attempt to do something about it, but WotC's busy printing money, so why should they care? Good luck to them I suppose, but it's sad to think a game I've loved for so long is increasingly not for me anymore.

Wizards of the coast hears our concerns, but they don't LISTEN.

@44:55 They've been printing a "Modern oriented" supp. set every 2 years since Modern Masters: 2013 - MM 2015 - MM2 2017 - MM3 2019 - MH 2021 - MH2 2023? - MH3, MH Remastered or new Product ;)

Secret Lair: Modern Horizons II will be the sketch treatments for the allied-color fetches and sell for $250

That intro gave me the genuine chuckle I really needed to start the day.

I was waiting for a video about Prof and the Merfolk and thought he died from excitement due to the lack of video. Glad to see the excitement in his eyes.

At 10:36 , the date is incorrect. Modern horizons 1 came out in 2019. You almost made me feel older than I was!

It doesn't feel like Wotc is making sets for people to play the cards, it feels like they're getting high off of whale hunting.

OMFG, I FEEL LIKE I DIDNT SEE YOU GUYS TOGETHER IN LIKE A YEAR!!, So glad to watch and listen this videos again 😍

Oh my god, I did not expect that special guest in the intro, that was perfect 🤣

That opening skit is brilliant.

Almost seems like wotc is trying to get everyone to forget about legacy, and turn modern into an "affordable" version of legacy. Then pioneer kind of picks up moderns spot. I don't know but it feels like there's a shift going on.

Man I've been checking hourly for this video.

Loved Vince’s answer to that last question! “Oh yeah Wizards can do better!” 😂

Best intro to DtR I've ever seen. When you popped CR, I spit out my water all over my screen.

I love the commentary of EDH MOM in the spell table bit.

If i can buy a scalding tarn for

I like listening to the happy Merfolk Prof!

Wow. That Simpsons clip is just so... so fitting. It's sad.

Now with Rishadan Dockhand existing I'd love to see your updated Modern Merfolk Deck Prof!

Prof grabbing his heart at the end was his true self fighting against possession by Hasbro's greed demon

This set kinda broke me on collecting MtG. I like collecting singleton sets, that way I can play what I want in Commander, and I did it with the none Masters products alongside Standard. I've given up on it now, I baught a box of MH2 because of fetches and I wanted to support my local after they reopened but I can't keep shelling out that kinda cash. It's actually silly how expensive this stuff is.

Modern Horizons 1 came out in 2019. Just so some people don't get confused.

Sad to not see any preview from you, was this another Strixhaven situation?

As someone who gave up on magic and went into Digimans I still love these podcasts

The Professor (Capital P) is always so much more interesting to listen to when he's not reading off a script.

"We'll just keep creeping" - Pleasant Kenobi

I need to remember to watch these more for the intros because that was amazing

@1:10 ahahaha made my night guys, the cyclonic rift follow up ahahaha💯

Idea: Now that RU-vid is doing Shorts you should also release all the start of show skits as a separate skit. #GetDemViews

I'll be buying a collectors box. Its probably a bad idea, but as a relatively low income person I'd like to buy at least one premium product once in my life 😅

love this series...it was too long without an episode!

Finally this series is back! Thank you!!!!!!

I like ignoble hierarch, but I feel like it shouldn't have exalted. I thought exalted was a Bant mechanic, so seeing it on a Jund card feels wrong. Something like devour would make me like it a lot more.

Voidwalkers can cast cards exiled with other voidwalkers and that might be too strong

Proxy up a cube of Modern Horizons II putting in all the good stuff.

Gosh its so great having this back. I hope it's not another year until the next Dies to Removal.

It's funny to see Prof and Kenobi realize they can't do anything about MTG prices. They probably realize their beef is with Magic players for continuing to buy.

The 299 draft box seems insane to me. This set looks so fun, and at normal prices I probably would've bought two, three, maybe more boxes of it to play limited and maybe open some fetches. At 300, I'm not buying any of it. Honestly - it feels like buying it is a vote for future sets to be 300/box.

I really hope that faeries gets some love soon. I’ve had a lot of people mention that we got brazen borrower recently and I tell them the same thing that you, Brian, say about true name nemesis: this isn’t a faeries card, it’s just a really good card that happens to be a faerie. It does nothing for us specifically, and any other blue deck can play it as well. I love the tools merfolk got in this set. Very true to what the deck wants to do and very powerful.

Just making a note: the graphic at 10:33 said MH1 was released June 14th 2017, when it was really released on that day in 2019. Overall great insight on the upcoming MH2 and discussion on the fallout of MH1

Grief is clearly better than solitude. When you start the game you cant ephemerate solitude for any value, but you can play grief 3 times by turn 2 and destroy their hand. But if youre using ephemerate you might as well just play both of them.

"Historic Horizons" I mean.. there's been like 5 Historic Anthologies already.. we even got Abundant Harvest before Modern.. sure they're not nearly as large, but I'd say it's the historic equivalent

Literally rewound to watch the intro again.

Great to see the duo discussing Magic again!

Wow, Prof admitted that Vince actually has a RU-vid channel!?!? What is this world coming to?

Modern Horizons was 2019, not 2017 :) Great video as always, keep it up!

The ending got me real good! Thank you

evoke subtlety -> tunnel vision would be a pretty wicked thing to do

"Noble Hierarch" and "Ignoble Hierarch" don't suggest a cycle. They're clearly a mirrored pair. And "Ignoble Hierarch" is already a stretch.

You are a gambling man, professor. You have a series called The Booster Box Game 😂😂😂

I really enjoyed this video Professor. Your insight into this set in this back and forth conversation is very enlightening.

Yeah when I saw Dauthi Voidwalker spoiled I had to read it a few times to make sure it wasn't somehow worse than I thought it was, and I'm still not sure how it's OK. Oko of the set.

Thank you, Wotc, for reprinting HALF the fetchlands.

Any idea when you're going to start uploading these to Spotify again? I really enjoy listening while I'm working

That alternate artwork of Svyelun is gorgeous. I’m not even a merfolk player and I want a copy.

$399 nzd for draft box preorders here in New Zealand. That’s almost a weeks rent. Magic can sit on the shelf.

Still waiting for something like an Emeria, Merfolk Sky Goddess / Emrakul, Breaker of Formats MDFC card to be a commander for my merfolk deck.

Oh my god I was looking at my screen at an angle and I thought the Prof's vest was his hair 😂

Not sure I have time to watch the whole episode but the intro was epic xD

The issue with Rishadan Dockhand is that the merfolk player usually deploys their threats to attack. now you're in the awkward spot to either hit dem with the dockhand and not being able to tax their opponent, or vise versa

Get used to set boosters. The print run for draft boosters has been strangled way too much for my liking...

What's your opinion on the 3rd Mythic card being removed from White, so that Green can have a 4th Mythic? Regardless I think it's still a well designed set with cards for everyone.

Omg, that intro was awesome. Im new to it all, and probably buying a mh2 pack, bundle, also looked at commander pack to start. Guess im best going to a shop and seeing the guys playing and collecting. I lean towards collecting for fun

I’m stoked for Merfolk, between Dockhand, Tide Shaper, and Svyelun I think it’s getting all the things it needed.

Vince must be jumping in joy for the Fetchlands finally getting reprinted

I think it's better for wotc to bring back the original msrp like before to stop the spiking of the prices for MH2 and future products? I may be wrong since I forgot the reason why they took it out in the first place.

40:27 I'm not sure if the lack of sound for a few seconds was an editing error but either way, it appeared to be an awkward silence while the song in the background kept playing and idk why but it made me laugh uncontrollably lmfao xD

In reference to Kira and Svyelun and the different automatic counterspell - Don't forget WARD only affects enemy spells. So one advantage that word has is you can cash friendly spells on your creatures for no extra cost. Whereas Kira would counter your own GIANT GROWTH-like spell.