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@Don_of_the_Dad
@Don_of_the_Dad Месяц назад
The music in the background is my job’s tech support hold music
@freereacher
@freereacher Год назад
Hi and thanks for your effort with this video. This may be helpful to some of your viewers who want to capture sounds without the Tonex Capture hardware. In your setup section, you said that you are routing your signal directly to your amplifier and not using a re-amp box. The re-amp box is imperative to getting the right input impedance to your amplifier. That would be the main reason why the capture sounded different to the original amp. The capture was a little bit flat. Lacking in low end and to play it would’ve felt a bit lifeless. That is a result of the impedance mismatch from the output of your audio interface directly into the amplifier. I have an 11 Rack which has a dedicated high impedance output for that very reason. Of course if you have to get an Re-amp box you may as well just buy the Tonex Capture device which one can still use as a re-amp box for other applications.
@MadSteex
@MadSteex Год назад
Yes of course, I told in the video that will be better to have the reamp box..and I recommend to buy the tonex capture instead of a general reamp box cause is convenient to have the routing together.
@thehoppo
@thehoppo Год назад
Thank you so much for doing the follow up video for this, I think you are now the only person to do a decent tutorial of how to use Tonex without the capture hardware, brilliant!
@MadSteex
@MadSteex Год назад
Thank you man! and thanks for the suggestion!
@Buttface1981
@Buttface1981 Год назад
Dude, thank you so much! I was going mad trying to route all this without the CAPTURE box, but this use of the DAW to route the stuff was brilliant
@MadSteex
@MadSteex Год назад
You’re welcome ☺️
@hereonmars
@hereonmars Год назад
great video. I am going to play around with this and also try it using a boss pedal in bypass, which supposedly will work too, before I buy or make a reamp box. I get my tonex pedal tomorrow and am looking forward to it.
@alcimarramos
@alcimarramos 2 месяца назад
I've seen some people posting Captures of Plugins, in which case would I still have to use the 3 outputs, or can I do it with just 2v?
@nicolasthiry924
@nicolasthiry924 Год назад
Thanks for the instructive video. I have a CaptorX and an HX stomp which can be used as audio I/F and for re-amping, so I assume it could fix the issue you pointed out ? Perhaps it would be interesting to do a video explaining the routing for such a setup too ?
@MadSteex
@MadSteex Год назад
Hey thanks! I use the captor X too in this video. I don’t have the HX stomp sorry
@RJstudiomusikcondet
@RJstudiomusikcondet 2 месяца назад
Kali audio 🎉
@redkurn
@redkurn 3 месяца назад
My groove tubes direct box can be run in reverse apparently it can substitute a remap box. Makes sense to me.
@ecorona21
@ecorona21 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the tutorial!
@heartsquaremusic2953
@heartsquaremusic2953 Месяц назад
is the Tonex software receiving input from the physical hardware input ONLY, or physical hardware input through any other DAW plugins on the channel prior to Tonex? Since it is a plugin, I would assume the latter.
@MadSteex
@MadSteex Месяц назад
You can use Tonex as standalone too if you want so the signal would be through physical audio interface, but in this case is better to use a daw so to create the routing for the output for the capture process, so I'm going into the audio interface and then the plugin is opened in a channel of the daw
@zeppo20
@zeppo20 Год назад
Thank you, I'm capturing my Amp 1 now.
@Super-id7bq
@Super-id7bq Год назад
Awesome thank you for this. Do you know if you can also capture with the ToneX pedal?
@MadSteex
@MadSteex Год назад
Nope, the pedal is to bring with you and play live the captures. The capture is done by the software which od based on Nvidia GPU, so il your graphic card of pc that will elaborate and process the captures
@ivansandoval777
@ivansandoval777 Год назад
Is there any radial product to use instead the ik multimedia reamping box?
@MadSteex
@MadSteex Год назад
Yes radial DI/reamp box is ok to use from the audio interface to the amp
@ivansandoval777
@ivansandoval777 3 месяца назад
What are the issues by not using the reamp box? Lack of gain in the captures?
@paulcanz
@paulcanz 5 месяцев назад
Can you please explain how you get out of the daw into the stand alone Tonex app
@MadSteex
@MadSteex 5 месяцев назад
I've explained at 7:12
@paulcanz
@paulcanz 5 месяцев назад
Ok thanks for narrowing it down where you say this , the routing in the daw along with the patch bay routing makes this one a maze but it would be nice to figure it out as an option, good work !
@hybrydsanity5857
@hybrydsanity5857 5 месяцев назад
so am I to understand your routing through your DAW and back into the Tonex stand alone APP ?
@MadSteex
@MadSteex 5 месяцев назад
That’s a way.
@luciopooh
@luciopooh 9 месяцев назад
Ciao rieccomi a chiederti consigli, ho poi catturato con ottimi risultati il mio laney vc30 con un sm57... Potresti fare un tutorial dove fai vedere passo passo la cattura di un pedale overdrive? Ci ho provato ma mi blocco... il manuale non e' chiaro. Grazie
@MadSteex
@MadSteex 9 месяцев назад
Ciao, in realtà è lo stesso procedimento, un pedale overdrive è un pò come catturare il preamp di un amplificatore, seguendo passo passo la videata Tonex non è chiaro?
@luciopooh
@luciopooh 9 месяцев назад
no perche' in quella videata mette un altro accessorio che non ho capito cosa sia... @@MadSteex
@wildmilne
@wildmilne 8 месяцев назад
With the Tonex capture box what do you set your input attenuation to? I had to set by ear which was close to 0dv but not all the way to 0. (To match how it sounds like plugged in to the front of the amp)
@MadSteex
@MadSteex 8 месяцев назад
I think you should see a light telling you you are clipping... if I remember well..cause I'm not using it anymore since I've builtt-in reamp output in my Antelope Orion Studio Synergy Core audio interface
@ithebastardking2800
@ithebastardking2800 Год назад
@Madsteex What do you prefer, the dedicated IK capture box or this way? Did you noticed any difference in the 2 ways? Thanks!
@MadSteex
@MadSteex Год назад
My way is without a reamp box so is lacking of that piece of gear. The capture box is a reamp box and routing box and I really enjoy to use it…it’s convenient
@ithebastardking2800
@ithebastardking2800 Год назад
@@MadSteex my interface has a reamp output so I don’t really need the ik capture box just wondering if it would sound better,… anyway think I’m gonna give the tonex a try. Thanks! Ps as always great video!
@MadSteex
@MadSteex Год назад
@@ithebastardking2800 in that case you do not need any other hardware
@albrenguesjean8177
@albrenguesjean8177 Год назад
Thanks for the really informative video ! I was wondering how you get to run studio one and the stanalone version of tonex at the same time (because i can't) ? Also, how can you actually do all the routing within studio one (indeed i have to do it within my audio interface software, which won t allow me to run an IR loader or an eq before profiling). Thanks
@MadSteex
@MadSteex Год назад
Well my answer is in the full video 😉. If you open studio one and tonex in standalone you can use both…I can not help you fir technical stuff without seeing anything sorry
@albrenguesjean8177
@albrenguesjean8177 Год назад
@@MadSteex this is actually what is not working for me ! Will look into it. Thans for the quick reply
@keemarcello1000
@keemarcello1000 Год назад
Hello, could you help me with a question? I have captured my amp and I want to save the file on my pc or on a flash drive, but it has been saved in Tonex as a tone model, not as a preset and I cannot export it. Could you tell me how I can export my own capture to my hard drive? I would also like to know if there is a difference in capturing in Advanced mode or in Default mode
@MadSteex
@MadSteex Год назад
Hi the Advanced mode is for complex sound with high gain sounds, to save the tone model you have to create the preset cause is the only way to export. So save a preset with that tone model and then you can export it
@masterofreality230
@masterofreality230 Год назад
I think I am going to try this by using my effects send and return, just need an rca to 1/4 adapter
@MadSteex
@MadSteex Год назад
With send return you will capture only the preamp…rca?
@masterofreality230
@masterofreality230 Год назад
@@MadSteex Yea, thats all I want to capture. I can use different power amps in the Two Notes Wall of Sound app. Its RCA out because its a 1st gen Focusrite Solo or something. I dont know if they call it RCA everywhere, but its like smaller connectors they used on stereos and vcrs a while back. If I want to try to reamp it from the software I would need to run out of my interface though.
@MadSteex
@MadSteex Год назад
@@masterofreality230 yes I know RCA, I thought was from the amp :)
@masterofreality230
@masterofreality230 Год назад
@@MadSteex Ok, I thought it was a universal term, I mean I am taking the output from the interface into the amp, or maybe I dont need to? idk lol I know I can use my effects send to get my preamp, I guess I really dont need to send my interface out come to think of it.
@MadSteex
@MadSteex Год назад
@@masterofreality230 The tonex will send sounds to your amp and will listen so you'll need to use your audio interface to both send and receive sound.
@luciopooh
@luciopooh Год назад
ottimo lavoro, ma se volessi catturare un combo? io ho un LaneyVc30, devo perforza usare un microfono davanti al cono? Io non ho una loadbox. Grazie
@MadSteex
@MadSteex Год назад
Ciao, beh dipende cosa vuoi catturare del combo...se vuoi catturare la sua interezza quindi anche il cono, beh si lui deve lavorare e quindi necessiti di un microfono, se invece vuoi catturare sono il reparo amplificazione puoi caurare solo l'ampli, ammesso che tu possa staccare il cono e lo tratti come testata e cassa. Se non hai una loadbox colleghi sempre la cassa/cono ma dal Tonex Capture che te lo permette
@luciopooh
@luciopooh Год назад
@@MadSteex Grazie, ma questa parte non l'ho capita: "Se non hai una loadbox colleghi sempre la cassa/cono ma dal Tonex Capture che te lo permette" io ho unna reamp box Palmer daccapo Grazie ancora per la tua disponibilta'
@MadSteex
@MadSteex Год назад
@@luciopooh Dipende dalla tua reamp box. siccome non hai una loadbox per catturare in silenzio o comunque catturare l'intero amplificatore, devi sempre in qualche modo collegare la cassa perchè l'ampli deve scaricare la sua potenza. il Tonex Capture ha questa funzionalità di avere anche l'uscita per la cassa, la tua reamp box non saprei.
@aris9125
@aris9125 2 месяца назад
What about FX Send from Amp?
@MadSteex
@MadSteex 2 месяца назад
It can works but partially cause you will use the “preamp” of your amp, and not the whole amp with also the poweramp section. I used that trick before when I haven’t the torpedo captor x
@aris9125
@aris9125 2 месяца назад
@@MadSteex Those ID Captures on ToneNet aren't preamp only?
@aris9125
@aris9125 2 месяца назад
But if i want only Preamp Captures cause i just want Captures without PowerAmp to use my TONEX in the FX Loop Return of my Amp and Cab, wouldn't''t it be the best way?
@MadSteex
@MadSteex 2 месяца назад
@@aris9125in that way yes
@tomchagas
@tomchagas Год назад
It is possible to make the toneX capture with Kemper Profiler DI Box?
@MadSteex
@MadSteex Год назад
Sorry don't understand tthe question, You want to capture the Kemper? YES you can
@ivansandoval777
@ivansandoval777 Год назад
If I have a torpedo captor (not x) and an axe FX .. what else do I need?
@MadSteex
@MadSteex Год назад
Axe fx is digital, you don’t need neither the torpedo captor. You can go directly to your audio interface
@ivansandoval777
@ivansandoval777 Год назад
@@MadSteex I use axe FX as interface.... I'm not profiling it... I'm going to use it as my interface. I need to know reamping box alternatives like a radial product
@MadSteex
@MadSteex Год назад
@@ivansandoval777 That's what you are searching. the Radial Pro RMP amzn.to/3iiae0W it's passive and allow you to send signal from audio interface al Line level to amplifier an Hi-z level
@ivansandoval777
@ivansandoval777 Год назад
@@MadSteex I want to buy the tonex and profile my mesa amps.. I use axe FX 3 as an interface... Do I need a reamping box? I'm not profiling the axe FX.. I'm using it as an audio interface only... My question is if I need to buy a reamping box...I don't know if axe can send high impedance signal to my amp
@ivansandoval777
@ivansandoval777 Год назад
@@MadSteex I have seen axe FX 4 cable method videos... So I'd like you to confirm me I won't need a DI box... Axe FX looks like it is capable to send hi impedance signal to my amp. Correct? Or I just need the di box anyway?
@thiagoborsari7364
@thiagoborsari7364 Год назад
Hi there. Did you manage to capture your Kemper without using the IK capture box? I mean , same as what you did but the kemper being captured by the tone x via sound card. Thanks in advance.
@MadSteex
@MadSteex Год назад
Hi! good question, never tried cause my kemper has captures or my real amps, so I preferred to capture directly my real amps. Anyway I've to try it.
@thiagoborsari7364
@thiagoborsari7364 Год назад
@@MadSteex thanx for the answer. Let us know if you have any success. I would love to have my kemper profiles inside rhe Tone X as well.
@zeppo20
@zeppo20 Год назад
Hi. , I´m trying to model my Bluguitar Amp 1, with 12 inch speaker. Clean channel sounds amazing, so first try the result is that the tonex model. sounds much quiet than the real one. I don´t have the tonex capture I manage the routing on studio one, like you.
@MadSteex
@MadSteex Год назад
Having drop in volume is strange cause Tonex should manage it making the capture...be sure to have all the level correctly, no any clipping..maybe better with a load box?
@zeppo20
@zeppo20 Год назад
@@MadSteex Hi, I just did. it, I increase both the guitar line input and the amp input, almost in red, and it was successful. Thank you.
@guitarandmore69
@guitarandmore69 Год назад
I have a 16 ohm THD Hotplate. But have various amps with different impedance. Does it matter if I just use it on load?
@MadSteex
@MadSteex Год назад
Yes it matters...if the amp cannot discharge correctly the power into a loadbox you can damage the poweramp or the loadbox.
@guitarandmore69
@guitarandmore69 Год назад
@@MadSteex Thanks!
@guitarandmore69
@guitarandmore69 Год назад
​@@MadSteex I'm doing something wrong. Every logical way I route this, all I get is feedback on the return from amp input. Any advice would be very appreciated! Thanks!
@theriffbandit9375
@theriffbandit9375 Год назад
im not sure how to set up a line out in logic pro, i have an audient id44 and it has 4 output on the back, 1L 2R 3L 4R so i should be able to get it to work i just dont know how to set up the line out like you did, ive tried to search for it on the internet but i cant find it.
@MadSteex
@MadSteex Год назад
Hi on logic you have to go to the settings of the audio interface, I don't use it but for you when you find the audio interface settings, you can manage the input and output
@miked5487
@miked5487 Год назад
Can you just use regular toneX version?
@MadSteex
@MadSteex Год назад
Yes!
@mikesmith1290
@mikesmith1290 Год назад
Do solid state amps need a load box? I have an old Laney amp, with a tube pre and solid state power section
@MadSteex
@MadSteex Год назад
I think so. The Poweramp needs to discharge the power to a device, speaker or loadbox
@mikesmith1290
@mikesmith1290 Год назад
After some research, if there’s headphones plugged into the headphone Jack, it disables the power amp section. I’ve read that using reactive load boxes on a SS power amp could cause a direct short, depending on they type of loadbox, and the power amp circuit.
@mikesmith1290
@mikesmith1290 Год назад
After some research, if there’s headphones plugged into the headphone Jack, it disables the power amp section. I’ve read that using reactive load boxes on a SS power amp could cause a direct short, depending on they type of loadbox, and the power amp circuit.
@mikesmith1290
@mikesmith1290 Год назад
After some research, if there’s headphones plugged into the headphone Jack, it disables the power amp section. I’ve read that using reactive load boxes on a SS power amp could cause a direct short, depending on they type of loadbox, and the power amp circuit.
@mikesmith1290
@mikesmith1290 Год назад
After some research, if there’s headphones plugged into the headphone Jack, it disables the power amp section. I’ve read that using reactive load boxes on a SS power amp could cause a direct short, depending on they type of loadbox, and the power amp circuit.
@Burbah
@Burbah Год назад
It's not too good of a capture cause you used the fast mode on a highly saturated signal which has a lot of harmonic content and requires more processing power. For the gainy and fuzzy sounds it's necessary use the advanced mode.
@MadSteex
@MadSteex Год назад
Yes I know...this was the second video, is not meant to show the mode....only the routing in this video, I did a video dedicated to the advanced mode.
@Burbah
@Burbah Год назад
@@MadSteex Thanks! I've been looking for one
@guitarandmore69
@guitarandmore69 Год назад
Seems like a total hassel. I'll just spend the $200 for the capture hardware.😊
@notalkguitarampplug-insrev784
ToneX is progressively replacing my kemper. I didn’t want to switch too fast and I also wait for the ToneX pedal. And also nobody wants to buy kemper.
@AaronOwenSmith
@AaronOwenSmith Год назад
sell the kemper now for 400 or 500 less maybe 700 before its worthless, in 2 yeas they will be worth 200-300
@PippPriss
@PippPriss Год назад
​@@AaronOwenSmithAbsolutely not. The Kemper is far to established in live rigs and studio applications to be replaced, and it also has everything in one place. Capturing unit, power amp, preamp setting. Now the Kemper is also a USB interface and gets liquid profiling, so there's tons more to discover on this unit. Form the average consumer base, yes, those sales are gonna completely crash due to ToneX pedal and whatever might come next. But, if the prices fall drastically, I will definitely buy a Kemper 😂
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