Analyzing HEAVEN in Hazbin Hotel - WERE THEY RIGHT? 

I know this might be a controversial idea, but these are my genuine thoughts on the story so far. Would love to read your lot's own thoughts on this divine matter...😇✨

I love a good video with an alternative perspective that’s based on facts and not feelings, this was very good ! Reminds me of another video where someone argued that Adam isn’t actually a villain, and they were lowkey right

Another aspect to consider is that the way that sinners grow in power is through the dealing and binding of souls. Therefore, by conducting the exterminations, Heaven effectively limits the potential amount of soul power that the sinners can accumulate, thus minimizing their threat level. Also, it's stated in the lore that any sinner that isn't perma-killed by an angelic weapon will eventually remanifest, no matter how injured or eviscerated they are. SO, from a certain point of view, the exterminations also decrease the total amount of potential suffering that the sinners have to go through by giving them a means to die permanently.

Another thing Charlie doesn’t see hell as evil notice in her a happy day in hell she passes by horrible things like hanged men and corpses and just walks right on by singing girl is avoiding the real reality of hell and focuses on Her view of heaven and when heaven doesn’t match her view or standards they are the antagonist

Innocence doesn’t equal good. The sinners went to hell for being bad in the living world, but up until Carmella killed an angel, the sinners were completely defenseless.

Some very good points on the matter of heaven. And cool video!

While I largely I agree with you analysis, I need to point out two things you haven't taken into account: First: Sera specifically instructed Adam and his Exorcist to never speak about the Exterminations to other Angels, ergo Sera was deliberately hiding the Exterminations from the all of Heaven populace, not just the Winners, not just Emily, but even the other Elders of Heaven as we see their shocked reactions. Why would Sera even have to hide this from the Elders? It would make sense to hide it from the general Heaven populace as well as from Emily, because, as we saw with Emily, the general population might react negatively, specially if Winners were to have relatives down in Hell such as Molly, Angel's twin sister. But why weren't the Elders informed of this as well? Was it because Sera thought that they wouldn't accept it either? Makes you think, doesn't it? Second: The Council of Heaven, not even Sera herself, seems to know what determines if a soul goes to Hell or Heaven, they just know when a soul arrives in Heaven, but not why besides assuming they were a good person on Earth. The implication being that whoever or whatever passes Divine Judgment, most likely God, is something that not even Sera is privy to. But not only that, when we look at Helluva Boss, we see evidence that the system that determines the fates of souls is flaw, in one of the early episodes we see a Sinner that in life was a good woman, a caring and loving person and teacher, but she ended up in Hell, why? Because when she found out that her husband cheated on her with another woman, she killed him, almost killed the other woman (And at the time she thought she did) and then killed herself. Now, taking lives, attempting to take lives and even taking your own life are very big sins, but tell me, do you believe they are enough to outweigh an otherwise honorable life? Do you think it's fair that for only one big bad action she should have been sent to the same place that other, more evil people were sent to for much worse offenses? Not, it's not fair. You see the flaw with this system now? It's very rigid and black and white with seemingly very little room for nuances, it's very easy to screw up and end up in Hell. Emily might have been naïve in calling the Sinners innocent, because they're not, but was she entirely wrong? Knowing what we do, it's easy to determine that probably a lot of Sinners aren't evil people, they were just stuck in a very shitty situation that they couldn't overcome. Look at Sir Pentious and Angel Dust, they weren't innately evil, Pentious was very incompetent at being evil and very quickly embraced being a good person and Angel's debauchery was as a way of coping with how utterly terrible his life in Hell is, and in the Music Video Addict, Angel states he died due to an overdose, pointing at him always relying in substance abuse and other vices to cope with his life back on Earth. So whatever they did on life that lead them to end up in Hell, more than likely was something beyond their control. Not just that, but let's look at Molly, like I said, she's Angel's sister, but she is in Heaven, how? Well, the running theory is that Angel, or Anthony, had to sacrifice himself to ensure his sister had a good life, being possibly why he would have had to rely on substance abuse to cope with his situation he couldn't walk out of because he was in it to protect his sister, shielding her from whatever sort of awful thing would have happened to her had he not took the brunt of it instead. Evidence of this is how protective, and even brotherly Angel acted with Nifty in Episode 6, taking care of her in a way a big brother would take care of a younger sibling. So if this is true, and I feel it is, then Angel did a very noble action in life, but he still ended up in Hell, how unfair would that be? Another example we can point to as to show that not all Sinners are bad by default are the Cannibals. Sure they eat people, and Rosie did say they love carnage and bloodshed, but other than that, they are rather nice and civilized, even friendly as we see in Rosie, of course this would be as so long as you respect their customs, but they are not very evil. Sure, killing and eating people is bad, very bad, but the point still stands doing bad actions doesn't equate to being evil. And there's more, let's go back to Helluva Boss, in one episode we see Cherubs send to Heaven in an attempt to ensure an old man in his deathbed would go to Heaven, even if he wasn't exactly a good person for most of his life. Why would they do that? To avoid him going to Hell? But again, why? If he wasn't a good person, then he should go to Hell. There's something missing here clearly. Maybe a relative in Heaven requested the Cherubs ensure the old man goes to Heaven? Possibly, but we just don't have the full picture. But what I can discern is that if the Cherubs attempted to ensure this old man goes to Heaven when he dies is that while he wasn't very nice in life, is that he at very least didn't do anything too bad that couldn't be offset by good actions before passing, thus ensuring passage to Heaven. More food for thought. In conclusion, while Sera might have had a point in allow Adam and his Legion to exterminate Sinners on a yearly basis, not all of them would have deserved to be purged, for not all of them would have been that bad of a people. And whatever this Divine Judgement is, it's flawed and uncapable of seeing the nuances of a person and only what their actions in life were. These are my thoughts, I hope you enjoyed my analysis.

“They were uprising Emily.” “She could empower the people of Hell with her songs.” These 2 lines lead me to believe that Lilith could make the sinners powerful enough to kill angels and even lead them in an attack on heaven. This would explain the golden gates (why would heaven need a physical defensive barrier) and the bloodthirst of the exorcist. I’m even willing to bet Lute lost a husband or father in that fight and uses Adam to fill the void.

Solid video and pretty enjoyable. I do have just a little push back on some of your points. There's not much to disagree with on the topic of Lucifer. Really we need more information to pick a side in that. What were the ideas that were seen as unacceptable and what explanation was given for why. Next, the Hypocrisy of Heaven. Charlie and Emma are technically on point with their assessment. As you said yourself, the Hellborn are technically innocent of any immediate wrongdoing. The fact that their home was eventually engulfed by some of the worst souls society had to offer and then were given powers didn't help. But in addition to the Hellborn, there are also the not quite good enough souls that are there too. And the relationships they have with each other. The hotel dwellers were upset by the death of Sir Pentious. Which one could argue would cause suffering to Charlie, a more or less innocent soul. Now, Sara's motivations can be called into question because she allowed the Exterminations to go forward but kept everyone else in the dark about it. If it was such of righteous decision then there would be no reason to hide from it. In a roundabout way, Charlie and Sera are trying to do the same job, both trying to make things better. Despite her youthful naivety (no clue how old she is) Charlie is under no delusion on how bad some of her citizens are and knows it when she sees it, but she's still trying to get them all to be better. Sera and Adam refuse to even acknowledge the idea of sinners redemption... which will be interesting to see how she'll deal with Pentious. Hell, I don't think Sara knows Lilith is even up there, how is she getting her information? There are a lot of gaps in Heaven's information. As for the whole genocide thing, not genocidal at all. But, as an American I can see some parallels on bad decision making out of fear.

Thank you for bringing these points up. When you are dealing with a realm of the prideful, and the willful, protecting the righteous and redeemed, take no chances. Welcome to Heaven also shows the series making two amateur writing mistakes. The fact the Divine Council doesn't know about the extermination, or even what saves a soul makes an idiot plot. An idiot plot is sustained by the fact everyone is an idiot. Charlie, as hard as she tries, is naive, and this was the only way to build up her cause. It is a case of protagonist centered morality, where what is right and wrong is framed around what the protagonist desires, not an objective standard. When Lucifer says, "I gave them free will and this is what they did with it," it is anger inducing. Humans already had free will, or they couldn't choose rebellion to begin with. But because he is on the designated hero team, he is framed as a victim, and Emily agrees with Charlie, so she is heroic.

We could add that extermination is not genocide cas much as it's a mercy to sinners, do you wanna be bound and enslaved innhell or just be dead or potentially even redeemed? Besides that it's clear history of banishment is in fact a lie, beacose Lucyfer is a known liar,his history implies humans had no free will yet that story contradicts itself when Lilith rejects Adam wich means they were built by heaven with free will already, plus Lucyfer's sin is pride and saying "i was thrown out beacose i wanted humans to have free will" is showing him in much better light then " i staged a civil war in heaven coz i thought ill be better god than Elohim(hebrew Word for God) himself

i hope they flesh the other angles like sera more out since something doesnt seem really right especially when it comes to lilth

Well, I could be mistaken, but the exterminators do kill hellborns. - Franklin (Rosie's business partner) - hellborn child Vaggie spared. If she had killed the innocent hellborn, she would not have fallen. Edit: yes, I now know the cannibals are sinner demons. I was working under a previous statement that Rosie never died, which suggested she was Hellborn.

The real question is...how would Hell rebel against Heaven if demons can not climb up physically? They can not go up there to burn the place down. We never saw any signs that Hell wants to fight Heaven if you don't count Velvette.

Yes they were both right.

Good video but I gotta say how can the sinners or overlords go to heaven they can’t open portals to it and they can’t take on all the angels especially sera and the elders

Most unhinged hazbin video I have ever seen

you might have have a point but they went against morality and christianity

Hell might be forever but it is obvious that Heaven is not.