Another Western Developer Is Angry About Elden Ring's Success 

Hey everyone, thanks for watching. This is a follow up to my other video about Western devs dunking on Elden Ring. Let me know what you think, sub to give my life meaning & I am now gonna go sleep. Thumbnail art by Noah Thatcher Link: thearkon.artstation.com/projects/Ar6dQz

I can't believe that dev said that. I think journalists want an easy mode because they want to blaze through the game and write a review as soon as possible to beat others, but get frustrated when they spend hours losing to the same boss lol. It's actually quite funny to imagine.

A lot of these devs are really arrogant, their arrogance goes so far that now they are attacking eastern games for daring to be different and challenging.

The ubisoft style of making open world is actively being taught in game design classes ( see: devs who graduated from "ubi-schools" in Montreal) so it isn't surprising to see how SOME people can't wrap their heads around Elden Ring. Or Souls-like. It's called Level Design. Not just an environment that looks realistic, but wasn't designed with gameplay in mind. Bet word from the top that there was a new Mandate: Do things like Elden Ring. And they are breaking their minds understanding WHAT the heck that means. Because they weren't taught that in Ubischool and they don't know the first thing about Level Design....

Little story from me: There is that one dude that I meet years before, he was a kid at the time actually. Aaaand I was playing Dark Souls at this time. This kid was watching me fighting all of those enemies and bosses times bigger than my character with jaw dropped on the ground. He asked me if he could try for himself, and I gave him controlled. He shouted and screamed that all of that is shit and its impossible. So I showed him that all enemies have thier attacks that can be dodged or blocked. He started to learn. He went through entire Dark Souls 3 from start to bottom, sometimes asking me for a advice or tricks in some moments. But I never took controller from him, even for a second. I said to him "It's your journey, I cannot take you and just throw to USA, can't I?" So years later he saved money and brought ps4 with Bloodborne. And he's first call to me was "Dude, I have Bloodborne! We playing?" So we hopped in an yeah. We died like a morons MANY times. We never really raged. We laughed that we were a idiots to fall for easiest traps. And now? He brought Elden Ring. Without any hasitation he hopped in once again to get he's ass kicked. He ask me how the game works, where should we go, what should he use and that staff. We bounce off from many games for months, but From Games? Nope, there is always motivation to go on and learn some more. Is it lore? Mechanics? Play styles? There is always something we have to do, and God damn us if we won't try some wierd shiet XD

She clearly didn't play games in the 8 bit era. You weren't guaranteed to see a game to the end if you couldn't play it on its terms.

Games like the Soulsborne series are truly fitting of the term "hobby". You just want to go back to them and talk with your friends regarding secrets, boss fights, lore, builds, etc. It is like going to the gym or doing martial arts, or a sport, it creates a symbiotic relationship between motivation and fun to be had.

What you said about replaying these games deeply resonates with me. I've NEVER been compelled to replay any Ubisoft-like open world game, and yet, I do this all the time with the Souls series and Elden Ring, despite the fact that I have thousands of hours in the series. Western developers seriously need to rethink some aspects of their cookie cutter games.

"If you paid for it, you should be able to enjoy it" Before you pay for something, you should make sure that it's something you actually want. If you buy a car, only to realize after the fact that the boot is too small to fit everything you want to carry, the car factory is under no obligation to now redesign the whole model just to fit your needs. _YOU_ should've checked before buying the car whether it fulfils your needs. You _know_ what kind of games FS makes. You have no excuse. "MmMMmm, YyYeEeeEEs, let me buy a game from the developer, famous for making really difficult combat, and then let me complain about combat in said game being difficult" GTFOH

Elden Ring is my first From Soft game I played, and even though I dont consider my self to be very good at this game I never once thought this game is hard or unfair. Elden Ring gives you so many options in combat and rewards you for taking your time to explore the world. I really hope wester developers learn a thing or two from Elden Ring. P.S. Shout out to my homie Banish Knight Engvall for carrying me through most boss fights

"Everyone who PAID should get to enjoy the game!" It is up to every functioning adult to inform themselves about a product and decide whether it is something they would enjoy BEFORE paying for it. THat is your responsibility.

Seeing all these western devs with their cookie cutter open world games being angry fills me with so much joy. Elden ring brought that gaming magic I felt last time as a child

She was just probably fishing for reactions just so she could later write an article in some shill website about how the Souls community is toxic and they were mean to her, or whatever. Seems to be whats in fashion these days.

Lol. Kids/ teens my age haven’t even picked up a souls game before and we’re already enjoying Elden ring. It’s incredibly multifaceted in terms of builds with a cool world to boot. And I personally love the story. These developers can get over themselves.

You’re fair and responsible with your criticisms. That is very much appreciated.

Miyazaki is 6? then he made demon souls and ds1 before he was even born. That's pretty impressive honestly. Miyazaki is the chuck Norris of video game design

1:17 There's something so sad about that dev experiencing what I can only assume is Agheel's entrance to his boss fight and somehow finding away to be *disappointed* by it. As if that moment of him appearing out of the sky and taking the small settlement AND YOU by surprise isn't not just a great moment of spectacle before a boss fight, but also a great lore moment showing off the immense destructive power of a single dragon (and not even one of the most poweful ones you get to meet) and getting your first taste of seeing this force that once ruled over the whole of the Lands Between before the arrival of the Greater Will. The dragons in the Lands Between have such an impressive yet tragic story and Agheel is one of your first pieces in that puzzle; acting like he's *nothing but* a spectacle is just blatant minimizing. Like, god damn, Agheel is one of the small fry and he STILL has an entire lake named after him, and that somehow is worth *less* than all the questions that dev had. And now that I think about it, Agheel's entrance answers most of their questions: Where are you going? Nowhere, because Agheel's here now. Who are these guys? The people on the lowest rungs of this society that are trambled by every facet of power, like the dragons. Why are you killing them? You don't have to, but you can. Where are you? You're in Agheel's fucking lake so get ready to rumble.

My first Souls game and the community is so f-ing cool! I loved the game, got the Platinum! It was a SOLID 9/10. The NPC quest lines are a bit weird / could be better. Be yeah… it’s game of the year material.

"I should be able to enjoy something that interests me and I paid for." Ok but... How do you get to being "interested" in the seventh From game with this formula withou knowing it's basically ABOUT getting owned and lost and not getting what's going on at first? Kinda sounds like "I paid for this Batman movie so I have the right to enjoy it without that stupid adult man in a bat costume." "I hate dough, mozzarella and tomato, but I paid for my pizza margherita, I should be able to like its taste."

Some thoughts I have on the "toxic" get good mentality: yeah some people do use it as an insult but sometimes the only solution to the problem is to get good. I know people don't like to be told they're bad at something (I know I don't) but you have to acknowledge that you're not always going to pick something up and immediately be good at it, be that a game, a real world skill, whatever. And you can either say the thing is too hard, get upset over it and stop doing it or you can admit that you're not very good at this yet but you're gonna stick it out, learn and improve at it. Both options are completely valid

Good video. My partner and I are all about accessibility in games and making it for more people. However as you pointed out, there are genres for a reason, and hating on and calling games like DS or ER trash bc they aren’t for everyone is honestly a very selfish take. ER especially has made the series far more accessible to where my partner who couldn’t get into DS3 has been having the time of his life with ER. Games are like books, music and movies; everything is based on your taste and not everything will always taste good

Restaurant menu: we only sell seafood here Customer: I hate seafood, give me the lobster Customer, while gagging: I PAID FOR THIS I SHOULD BE ABLE TO ENJOY IT This is exactly what all these people are doing. They know Elden Ring, as part of the Souls series, is a hardcore experience before they buy it (if they don't, that's on them for not properly researching what they spend their money on). They buy it anyway, then get mad when they don't like it, and demand that other people put in time and money to tailor the game to their interests, rather than the interests of the game's core audience. And all I've got to say is.......we have an entitlement problem in the modern world.

How ironic is that to acomplish her goal, she has to exclude "hardcore Dark Souls players" from her definition of "everyone".

Thank you for not even hiding your contempt lmao. People like Delaney should be talked down to in every hilarious way possible. I love how these Western devs always cry and complain whenever FromSoft releases a new game. Meanwhile chad Miyazaki out there is just chilling with his yet another successful (and a surefire GOTY) of a game and promising his fans he will continue making challenging games. That statement from him alone must have made a Western dev or two die from stroke. 🤣 Imagine getting beaten by a "six-year-old" lmfao comedy gold.

Wait wait... has she not been paying her dentist?!

In the idea of a game is the concept that you might lose, losing is part of the experience of playing a game. In this regard Elden Ring is still very forgiving, there are infinite continues so you can't really lose unless you give up.

Man I can't stress how that I have NEVER, EVER seen such an AMAZING world created by FromSoft, the artwork, the music, the design, the... lore.. ahem. My first time entering the Altus Platau I had to just sit and stare at my screen for five minutes, I was in awe, the beauty of the distant capital, the falling golden leaves, golden landscapes and the music. Every game I get so immersed because of FromSofts creativity and genuine hard work put into their games.

Funny, that analogy about horror movies is almost exactly what happened to The Exorcist when it first came out. Parents complained when they brought their children to see it in theatres, because they "had no idea" it was a horror movie. They even lobbied to have it banned in cinemas.

I bought this ticket to Barcelona when I actually wanted to go to England. I think all tickets should bring me to where ever I want, and having tickets to only Barcelona, really stigmatizes the people who don’t wish to think about where each specific ticket would bring them. Seriously, are we all supposed to know geography and plan out our actions as an autonomous human being?

My fav. Part was "complaining the horror movie was too scary" oddly i have seen this with horror movies or mordit thing's... many complain it's too scary or creepy and so is water-down. 😔😔😔😔😔😔

To be honest, only FromSoft could have pulled that kind of open world. It's really the Dark souls philosophy extended to an open world. I am not sure any developer could have replicated something similar and have the same success.

I tried Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 and I couldn't continue after 10 minutes. I wasn't feeling it. Sekiro I actually managed to play for a few hours but eventually gave up after getting stuck on the first horse boss (dude after the huge snake). That was a few years ago. I'm 200+ hours into Elden Ring and it is the greatest game I've ever played (which was previously Skyrim). I'm at the last boss and I don't want it to end. I'm actually sad, but after I find the courage to finish the story, I'm going back to Yarnham to fuck shit up. Thank you FromSoft.

What I would love is a from software game that summarizes all the bits of information you have about the world in a journal and let you piece the mythology and story as part of a sandbox game, like a “scribe” gear that has note taking tools . Even if I love these games, in the end I have to go to RU-vid to understand the lore, but that feels like having people telling me things about the game instead of the game helping me piece together the bits I got. I keep forgetting about the information I got and I can’t even replay cinematics and dialogues

Exactly why I haven't bought it. Years ago when I was in the army, every night was my own and I could put the hours in. I only get the odd 2-3hrs spread through the week now if I'm lucky with a challenging job, 2 kids etc. So I can't commit to the effort and time of this game. Do enjoy a good story though which is why I'm enjoying your lore vids

It's the same mindset that results in generic uninspired movies, as well. The idea that it has to appeal to the lowest common denominator to make the most money. Movie adaptations of works from other forms of media are a huge culprit of this. Greedy executives leech off the success of a popular IP and dumb down all of its themes and nuances in an attempt to appeal to people who don't even like the story's genre in the first place. Like the video said, this is also how you end up with entire movie genres seeming formulaic and homogenized, like they came off a conveyor belt. It's sad when you can watch a horror movie for the first time and predict every cheap jumpscare that's flung at the audience.

One of the things I like about the Souls games is being a part of the community, even on its periphery, by getting hints on what to experience online, hints at builds to try and hints at story though youtubers. I may be too goblin brained to find everything myself but if I get pointed in the right direction there's so much to enjoy.

I am so happy there are content creators like you defending this beauty of a game. From Software put their heart into this game. Magic is more valuable than any other souls game. I actually have fun with it. The combat system is smoother than ever. The open world feels like an actual open world. The amount of money From software has put in the pockets of content creators, blogs, websites from this game all of those people need to be screaming thank you!!! From them not explaining everything has made money for so many folks. I hope from software keeps pushing the limits.

Me and my Hubby often discuss/debate Elden Ring lore during our walks to the grocery store and such. It's so much fun to speculate on the mysteries of the game since they are provided in such tantalizing and enticing ways :>

Another great video Endymion! Personal experience that I don't remember pretty much anything from Horizon Zero Dawn as the game lore was always threw in front of me in a way that didn't make me wonder or think of what happened. When I started Forbidden West, it didn't hooked me at all. After putting 150h in Elden Ring I might have put almost the double just watching theory / lore videos, where the game actually instigsge me to learn more, making me come with MY conclusions about what happened. It's so ingenious that its difficult to articulate so I am not surprised that even devs doesn't understand since offering context isn't something that they're used to.

If you buy a guitar, the act of paying for it doesn’t entitle you to be able to play it. You have to learn and develop those skills, and there is tremendous satisfaction in doing so. Similarly if you buy a basketball hoop it’s on you to develop the ability to throw the ball through the hoop. If you buy a book of poetry by John Keats but you don’t like poetry and don’t understand it, you aren’t entitled to an explanation and just looking for one online isn’t half as compelling. The whole “argument” that you should be given everything because you paid money reveals a worldview that utterly toxic in its entitlement.

Actually, this whole reaction from certain western devs, ragging on Elden Ring and saying that it's a bad game, that its overrated and its success undeserved, made a connection immediately form in my mind. I mean, it's a bit familiar, isn't it? An unexpected result comes in, one that doesn't correspond to your personal beliefs or prejudices - and instead of accepting that your opinions might not be universally shared, or even trying to learn something from this result, you attack it - ignoring the fact that critics, user reviews, and sales-figures all make it clear that this thing is a HUGE SUCCESS. You disregard all the inconvenient facts, wave them off as illegitimate, undeserved. The objective truth is irrelevant, the facts are irrelevant - if the results don't match your beliefs, they are *not real* . So yeah. This seems to be just another expression of the 'post-truth' society that has arisen in the US in recent years. And frankly, a bunch of devs blindly insisting that THEIR game-design philosophy is superior despite abundant evidence to the contrary is about the *least* of its consequences...

It's like some of these developers hate learning. Also I see why Assassins Creed has such an identity crisis.

That would be like me being mad at paying to go see a brand new movie because I didn't enjoy it and I don't think anyone else should either because I did not enjoy the experience then get told by other reviewers that it was a great film

The issue is that game devs were told to "dumb down" their games so that they can be enjoyed by people that do not have experience or mental capacity to deal with more complex tasks (because then they can sell the product to more people). And while it is true that many games (Elder Ring included) have been primarily built to accommodate the tastes of fans with previous experience, the solution is to bring new gamers up to speed with an optional tutorial or offering ways *in the game world* to adjust the difficulty (builds that minimize the damage taken, health upgrades that are scattered around, consumables that exploit planted weaknesses, etc.), not to have a list of difficulty levels before the game starts or to remove the sense of discovery by marking everything.

Another tweet that I remember from the thread made by that dev is when they said something along the lines of: Players shouldn't come up with an idea and doing things or going to places they're not designed/directed to They should be following the path that the devs have carefully designed for them This one in particular boggles my mind, since it's like they're saying players shouldn't have agency and dictate how they want to play the game.

Elden ring is my first souls game and i liked it so much it's actually incredible. Heck it's even my first playstation game and i fucking love it. The mise en scène, the design, the writing, *THE MUSIC MY GOD* , the lore. Anyway this is a masterpiece.

Elden Ring is my first souls game, and I've been *obsessed* with it since I got it, but I will say that I'm not too fond of how certain questlines are structured in that you pretty much HAVE to look up a guide in order to know what to do in them. Like, not quest related but, I would find it very hard to believe if someone managed to find the Dectus medallion without a guide, and that unlocks like an entire half of the map. Which having to look up guides isnt like necessarily bad, but it does get annoying having to constantly alt-tab to google something. I still have loads of fun on the game but this does irk me a bit.

Played over 300 hours of elden ring. Finally played horizon for 2 hours and now back to elden ring at 309th hour

Good video, I agree with a lot of what you said- especially so many game design crutches getting relied on so heavily in the 'West' these days. And that developer had the worst takes. The entitlement BLOWS MY MIND. Seriously, and then instead of keeping such a take to themselves they thought it was a good idea to throw it onto the internet. Amazing. I do have to disagree intensely with a minor point you made on WHY people campaign for 'easy modes'. (Not to say every game SHOULD have easy modes, but the way you spoke about the discussion at all came across as incredibly reductive and represented it in very bad faith). Sure, some people may use it to bypass the challenge- but the reason many are arguing for 'easy modes' is so whole groups of people can experience the games at all. There are many, MANY subtle and non subtle disabilities that would make many titles impossible to play. Adjusting some settings would not lower the difficulty to those players, it might even still be harder for them than the usual experience would be for you. This is not to say every game should cater to every person, obviously the whole point of the video is that that is impossible. On top of that I think 'easy mode' isn't a very elegant solution, but accessibility as a growing challenge is definitely a problem that is worth discussing with respect, not handwaved aside as 'these people just don't wanna learn the game'. I also don't think you need mysterious lore to discuss a game's themes, those are fully separate to me. I agree, the type of engagement you get from FromSoft is different in nature- but the implication that you can only have a meaningful discussion about a property when everything is shrouded in mystery does not ring true to me at all. 'How do you think the Horizon franchise handles the climate crisis in its story' could be a super interesting theme related discussion. As you said, different people look for different experiences. I'll never play Horizon, I've seen a playthrough and gotten all I needed from that, but thought its story was quite strong. I'm on my second Elden Ring playthrough. Just because the games require different types of engaging with the themes does not mean there is nothing to discuss. But the way Elden Ring handles LORE definitely encourages the type of long-term investment so typical of Soulsborne fandoms. I wouldn't tie the way a game handles lore to the values or depth of a theme the way this video seemed to.

I know I'm throw this cheesey line out to those whiny wester Dev's. Line that all soulborne fans to the newbies. "GIT GUD!" maybe your games won't be so trash. 🤣

01:20 Her: "Who are these guys? Why am I killing them? Where am I? Where am I going?" Me: "Godfried's soldiers and armed peasants. They're trying to kill you. Limgrave. Castle Stormveil" Her: "Wait. How do you know all of that!? How am I supposed to know?" Me: "They're obviously dressed as soldiers and peasants and have weapons, it isn't a difficult conclusion to reach. The NPCs and item descriptions tell you lore info about The Lands Between. You not wanting to get killed should be a natural reaction. The map. The NPCs telling you where to go along with Grace literally pointing in the direction to go." These people are as stupid as they are defensive about the consequences of ignoring what their customers keep telling them.

This was my first FromSoftware game like many other people. It's the first game I've played that truly let's you decide how to play it. You can completely ignore the story, or dig for lore. Play only using swords and shields or only using magic. If something is too hard, just grind or find a stronger weapon and come back later. There are so many ways to come at it. I'd say in some ways it's the MOST inclusive game, you just have to find what works for you.

Well said duder, and kudos for the Mastodon reference. One of the biggest reasons why I keep playing Destiny is its lore. It hasn't always been represented in a good way, but part of the fun was piecing it all together, and Elden Ring does the same but on an even grander scale. My only real gripe with Elden Ring was keeping track of progress in certain quests. I know that its up to me (the player) to keep track of the steps or progress, but I legitimately would not have been able to finish Ranni's questline if not for a guide. Maybe this type of quest design would work in a more linear game, but, to me, it doesn't work in a vast and open world like Elden Ring. I'm not saying spell everything out for me, or hold my hand, but even a quest log with extremely vague descriptions would of been nice.

I wonder how the gaming landscape will look like with everyone talking about developers copying Fromsoft in a few years from now. People are scared and rightfully so, but seeing Nioh and Jedi Fallen Order is proof that people can recreate their gameplay with their own twists!

when you pay for the game, you pay to own it thats it nothing more nothing less you can choose to do what you want to with it, such as playing, modding or even trying to enjoy it but fromsoftware or any seller in general never made an agreement with you that you will definitely enjoy the game

What were those games you showed snippets of? They look pretty cool.

For a while I avoided playing elden, now that I have, it is a breath of fresh air, combining all the best elements of the best ps2 games. Not having to worry about a quest log or markers really helps, it reminds me of when I would repeat the same levels in old games.

I think a lot of negativity from the community comes from a person complaining and not necessarily asking for help. Not saying there isn't some d bags in the souls Fandom, but from my experience it's been 90% helpful. Sharing ideas, theories, and strategy, patting each other on the back, etc. It's a brotherhood forged I'm shared experience. So when somebody new to the series comes in to complain on something we love and bonded over, yeah people get defensive. Git gud is actually the advice, if someone tells you to get good, ask them how. You'll be surprised

Elden Ring is a very fun game to play, and I love exploration. And sometimes even the lore stuff can be fascinating. But if there's anything I don't like, it's the fact that, well... most NPCs hardly ever interact with one another. They'll often talk to YOU and refer to other NPCs, but never really have any on-screen interactions. It just feels like there's a disconnect; like I'm seeing signs that the video game world is just that; a video game.

I genuinely enjoy elden ring quest system where each and every quest felt like hidden event that you need to solve on your own/community helped to solve. It's make the adventure felt real

if a "six year old" created elden ring, how old are some specific western devs :D

In the HORIZON series' defense. The games actually do have a lot of SOULS-style lore about the world outside of the main story for those willing to look. But yeah, I agree that the tired old "UBISOFT formula" is holding the series back and the developers should really drop it for the third game.

How to tell someone never leveled vigor, died to tree sentinel, and quit before ever leaving limgrave

Honestly, I just really like not being pressured or coaxed to do mini-quests, which I feel compelled to do because it's on the list, they might be good, and I don't want to miss things as I have no intention of coming back to it.

For me its just a cope mechanism from mediocre developers unable to understand that innovation doesnt mean gimmick, it also shows how much intolerant and bigoted western devs are about embracing oriental physolophy of game making.

“Everyone that paid for a game should be allowed to enjoy it.” “I didn’t enjoy the last of us, 1 or 2” “Bigot!!” Prove to me that this wouldn’t happen.

@9:37 This description couldn't have been better worded or phrased. Thank you, I'll reference it anytime someone has an opinion on hard games. Heck this logic can be applied to pretty much everything, and it sadly is in some cases.

Elden ring had enough hype around it that we have a situation where a group of people stepped in a room where they don't fit in. Some people mingled and others got mad about not fitting in.

So sad... She´s just internalized the pathetic excuses the industry uses to push these bloated samey games, whose real and only purpose is to make more money.

When elden ring blew up I googled if it had an easy/story mode because I was after the lore then I heard GRRM had a hand in it and got more interested. I sucked it up and just played out of curiosity what the difficulty is like. to my surprise I enjoyed the thrill of winning what I thought were challenges I can never overcome with bosses. 50+ hrs in and now I'm playing Sekiro too! I thought the souls genre wasn't for me but FS blew me away Good take btw! Well said

I enjoy From Software gameplay but find criticism of their thin narratives to be justified.

Which horror game were you playing when you gave the example of the horror genre? At 4:28

This Is what happens when you mix a narcissistic ideology with art. You get artists that treat their art the way they treat their ideology, when it gets criticized even with objective facts the answer is demonize and deny.

As Sseth said, elden ring should be played after doing a frontal lobe lobotomy. . . for maximum enjoyment. . . prolly for the western doo doo gamers, devs and journos

When I watch videos about these, it reminds me of fallout 76, and how the main premise was to explore for yourself. It blows my mind

at the risk of being told to get good, I'm standing up for an easy mode. me playing on easy hurts no one, ruins no ones experience but mine. why do i want an easy mode? I have long covid and broken fingers. I can't play in normal in a game at first. It takes me a long time to learn the dodges and the attacks, to get my fingers to respond fast enough, I don't have enough pressure or feeling in them. Easy mode is where I learn the game, get confident in it and then try my luck in normal, knowing that i have a reasonable chance now of dying in three hits, not two. It's not fun for me to continue to die in one hit when i used to be half decent. it's disheartening and reminds me how different things were for me before. But I like a challenge and I do get there. I just have to start way further back than most people.

I played Horizon Zero Dawn before playing Elden Ring. While Horizon has a cool story, Elden Ring blows it out of the water in terms of sheer content. There were some aspects I hated at first, like how quests progress, but it felt great when they did because I did it on my own terms. You actually have to run around and do stuff with that pink sponge in your head instead of just reading what you have to do from the quest log in the upper right. And for those that use the argument that difficulty settings could make it easier for disabled people to play, I myself have one arm and I have 100 hours in ER, not to mention there are COUNTLESS people who have disabilities that are much worse than mine that manage to play games still. Also, hearing that every entry in the Soulsborne games has no difficulty setting because the creator wanted everyone to experience the same victories is actually really cool.

Hey western devs, you can either A) Cry us a river, or B) take pointers from Elden Ring to actualy improve your own lame games! The choise is yours, but make it fast, i'm kinda tired of hearing you whining about Elden Ring.

2:50 - I don't think this kind of thinking is right even for food, if someone hates pizza and goes to a pizzeria then he shouldn't expect to enjoy the pizza...

The reason I like from software lore style is because I 100% skip through all the dialogue, but I can still enjoy the game because the gameplay is fun. Then I watch lore videos or read lore theories online, and I love doing that. Seeing all the different perspectives is so much fun!

Elden Ring was the first ever Fromsoft game I’ve played. I was the dumb one who started playing on mouse and keyboard and my friends laughed at the steep learning curve I experienced and the frustration I felt because I actually HAD to learn attack patterns and utilise dodging etc. I’m my first full play through, it took me almost 20 HOURS to move onto Rennala because I explored Limgrave and Raya Lucaria and realised only now on my brand new game, I’m exploring NEW areas I didn’t dare explore because my confidence in my skill playing the game has increased. You’re rewarded endlessly as you learn, but you can simply spend ages travelling around each area exploring and picking up items and it doesn’t feel boring. The negative reaction to Elden Ring feels like a demand for instant gratification instead of failing, retrying, failing again (in my case 4/5 times) and then succeeding and the rush of pride from managing to get past an obstacle in the road, even when that road isn’t the ONLY road you have to go.

I think one factor here is that these devs kind of miss the forest for the trees. Elden Ring is a cohesive game that comes together to be greater than the sum of its parts, but most devs spend years of their lives working on one part of a game, and will often care a lot about that part. I think it’s fair to say that there are disparate parts of Elden Ring that are a lot worse than their counterparts in many western games when taken on their own. If you were the guy who made the nemesis system from Shadow of Mordor, it might be a bit demoralizing that a game with pretty simplistic AI can blow yours out of the water in critical reception, sales, etc. it just wouldn’t feel fair, because maybe you actually did do a better job than your counterparts in From Software. Western games are often less than the sum of their parts. That’s the sad truth of it. A lot of great work goes into them, but so often it doesn’t really make for an end product that’s enjoyable to the consumer.

I bought a book today, but it was above my reading level. The author should write another version of the book with more accessible language because I gave them my money lol

Hard is trying to play Wallstreet Kid without reading the manual. The first tweet was really complaining about what a good openworld should be. I remember a couple times so far looking for one thing and stumbling onto something else entirely that was really cool.

"They PAID so they are ENTITLED to the enjoyment" Tell me you're painfully american, without telling me you're painfully american. I HOPE that woman never gets to direct anything creative. Ever.

Playing Elden Ring is like stepping 5 years into the future of game design.

We need people like you Endy

There's a man on RU-vid named Max0r who occasionally reviews games and oversaturates them with fast paced memes and never tells what's going on properly and yet SOMEHOW he's more reliable than any mf in polygon or really name any game journalist

What do you expect from a terminally online dev who spends her whole days on Twitter and has her pronouns in her bio? Those people are hopeless, whether they are dev, game journalists, streamers...

We have game companies left and right releasing buggy, unplayable messes, using predatory loot boxes and microtransactions to line their pockets, and straight up lying about the content of their games. But ohhhhh nooooo. The real problem that needs to be addressed is developers releasing games that you happen to not enjoy for purely subjective reasons, especially if those games happen to be a) challenging and b) popular. I'm all for allowing anyone and everyone to express their opinions about a piece of media and level it with their own personal criticisms. But acting as if a game "should" cater to you out of moral obligation is downright entitled. If I buy a game and happen to not enjoy it, well... That sucks, but I'm sure I'll survive. And if lots of other people really enjoy it then it must be doing _something_ right, and it just happens to not be to my preference. I don't like Minecraft. At all. I don't like the lack of concrete goals, I don't like mining for materials, I don't care for the creation options, and I don't like its open-endedness. But I'm not about to jump online and claim that Minecraft should've been made differently simply because I don't like it. These people are essentially screaming "STOP HAVING FUN!" at the millions of fans and hoping everyone will listen. They simply can't fathom that other people like different types of games.

I’m not the biggest gamer. But my fav games were fall out 4 and witcher 3. I’ve replayed witcher so many times and love it so much. But I started playing elden ring and I’ve just been killing the knights at the start for HOURS but I LOVE it everytime 😂 can’t wait to explore rest of the world. It’s such a good game. I knew a regular souls game would be too hard for me but the basics are pretty easy to grasp. You just gotta level up 🤦‍♀️

The thing is... Elden ring already is fairly easy compared to previous Souls games. With bosses at the end it comes to learning their movesets and finding a weakness. Or if you're extra smug... try parrying them and get massive damage. ( I still need to learn it, haha.)

If someone is going to put their nonsense out there, they should expect whatever fallout comes from it. People should not feel bad replying to it in whatever manner they see fit. If a dev doesn't want the negative attention there is a simple solution. Shut your trap.

to summarized, how to make a successful timeless game: Please the fandom community, not game journos & wokenism

I bought this game a couple of weeks back and it's my first souls game. Im glad that I'm actually able to die now and I'm just left to explore with no hand holding. So far the only marker that I've ever been given on the map is the entrance to Nokron. And now I'm loving Nokron, just found the merchant playing violin by accident. It's such a great feeling just finding stuff like this. It's feels like im playing Ocarina of Time as a kid, having that same sense of wonder, hell last night I fought the Mimic Tear and got that shadow link battle vibe. And speaking of tears, I'm liking this game more than Tears of the Kingdom. I don't get their hate towards this game at all. It's wonderful.

1:47 as a dentist who loves From Software games, I think I could feel offended

these takes literally feel like a person attack on me since the eastern developers actually made this game piece by piece to appeal to people like me and people who don't even want to enjoy the game are trying to get it changed? how selfish can you get?? smh

"so who are these guys? why am i killing them? where am i? where am i going?" funny thing is that it's all answered within the first 4 minute cutscene.

"Everyone who PAID the game should be allowed to enjoy a game that interests them" Right, you almost got there, the answer is right in front of your face

5:54 wow the disrespect of that play though, duck born ending in D's armor