Wale came up during a different era he was competing with the drake's, the j Cole's and the Kendricks of the world. Wale pre dates the sliding on opps era so he didn't need to be a tough guy
I hear you. But DC always been a grimey/hood city. Wale never at no point of his career represented DC in a real way. That's what Ant is saying here. He don't speak the lingo , he don't look or act like a DC dude or nothing.
@@daoneandonlybravobut not every DC dude is a street dude. There are a lot of DC dudes that just be chillin, they cool, not on no street shit, but not soft though.
Guys like Ant glizzy is why they tell rappers who get big to stay away from their home towns. Some people you don’t even know have absolute hatred and resentment for you while you’re thinking you’re being loved and embraced by your community.
He’s animated but his point is. Dc don’t got no big homies like other cities and wale is supposed to be the face. Yo got to, young thug, Gucci, they save niggas lives
Dude is a reflection of just how entitled these no talented rappers are... NOBODY owes you anything and your rap career is YOUR sole responsibility.....Shawn should have asked this guy to name the person from the DMV that put Wale on and it would have ended the conversation....Point is Wale made things happen for himself and still represented where he came from, nothing else is required of him.
To be honest we don’t need anymore street rappers in actual reality the black community can’t afford to keep pushing street mentality. Imagine downplaying another man’s career because he doesn’t rap about murder and poisoning the community. Wale raps about reality and black women. I love keef music but we don’t need another keef
Sounds like a lot of jealousy to me. Why tf would he reach back and help any of those dudes. He said Wale doesn't represent D.C. but mad bc he didn't put anybody on
Damn this was sad…Why does Wale have to be in the streets or from the streets? There’s a lane for everybody…At least he’s being himself and not being CB4! And as far as Glorilla, Glorilla made “FNF” on her OWN! That song was so big and dope, Gotti HAD to pick her up…Somebody from DC gotta make a song as crazy as “FNF”.
Yeah he sound hella leechy lol... hes literally almost crying cus DC dont have a hood rapper that's poppin rn. Why does everyone gotta be hood. I'm from the Bronx and even tho all the drill rappers is whatever they are most ppl here aren't like that so they dnt represent the mass. Most ppl in the BX are just like every1 else in NYC we all ain't Kay Flock
@@Tuelz...and tbh ya lil drill movement in the Bronx was deaded before it even started. NYC has nomore original sound it’s just all immigrants imitating wat they believe to be black culture.
@@porkchopnu4096 Facts. Nyc drill sucks. Even if the southerners and others regions don’t like it nyc rap was always respected back then. Now that they gave up their boom bap real hip hop sound they lost respect and nobody likes it either
@@jirrellj they didnt give up on it... theres a bunch of new younger rappers rapping on Boom Bap... they just arent as big as the Drill rappers cus drill is popular rn. Yall just listen to the mainstream music so yall dont hear it... NY Drill wasn't mainstream in 2016-2018 but that doesn't mean it didnt exist its just noone listened to it back then
I was gonna say the same thing bro.....niggaz is just weak and wanna be victims sooooo bad smh.......this is the tru definition of a hater....he "don't like wale because wale don't sell drugs or act gangsta smh that's sad ninjas for ya
This man complained about Wale not putting people on then turned around and said Wale doesn’t represent their brand because he ain’t in the streets 🤦🏿♂️
Funny thing is the whole era Wale is from are not street guys. Also there’s more people like Wale then not like Wale. He’s not a street guy. Big Sean is a representation of Detroit not a street guy. Kendrick representation of LA not a street guy. His whole argument is ridiculous and embarrassing man.
I like how say cheese challenged him. One thing about say cheese he not just gon agree with everything even when he wrong lol. That’s what I think makes him a good interviewer.
Niggas in dc are so stuck in the kill murder shoot mindset I don’t think it’s gonna change until they kill each other off and we raise the newer generations with better morals
That’s like saying Detroit rappers aren’t on because of Big Sean or Em. Didn’t stop any motion for Detroit artists. Still got Tee Grizzley, sada baby , 42 dugg etc out of there. In DC , wale didn’t stop fat trel, shy glizzy ,no savage etc. He not as influential to the city , so find it be the influential person
Im from NC. Wale definitely put a heavy light on DC. Pretty Girls was the first song I heard from Wale back in 09. I was in college at A&T and I went up to Howard for homecoming. My homeboy put me onto it on the drive up from NC. Give Wale his credit he repped DC heavy even though he from Maryland. He put a spotlight on DC!
Wale and cordae are the two best artist from DC currently. I give them respect because they never tried to be anything beyond themselves. People don't give them enough credit if you listening to the artistry they get better with time. It so many intelligent lyrical cats from DC but our problem is we try to ride the wave of other cities just to get on. That's what hold us back more than anything. We don't develop our own unique sound and the artist that's talented have real lyricism ..word play classified as cornballs...we not Chicago...we not Atlanta...so many people think that's that's the top of the top...but we in a position to literally change the sound and the direction of music and culture for black people with the talent here and all we gotta do is be ourselves...support each other.
All those rappers are from PG county, along with great athletes like Kevin Durant, Chase Young etc. When DC ppl say MD they really mean PG. They just hate on PG so they say MD to take credit from PG we hip to em.
I think he saying is he not helping the DMV artist, that’s his gripe, it comes off as hate though, he just wants Wale to help up and coming DMV artists
@@coachbo1112 he wants DC to have movements like Chicago or Memphis or something. That has nothing to do with Wale it's up to the rappers. I live in the Bronx and from 2016 to 2019 we was using UK drill beats and noone outside of NYC knew. We slowly build up a street buzz here then finally one of us popped off (Pop Smoke) and now we have a NY Drill movement. DC just needs to find a type of sound or remix a type like we did then slowly build it. Noone helped these kids here make it mainstream. JayZ, Diddy... we got hella legends here and none of them helped the new sound pop off. DC cnt just expect someone to help either
I definitely see what Ant is saying at a point. Once he used the chief keep analogy I understood. But like cheese said, they dropping the ball themselves. Wale shined that light on the dmv so its on other artists to blow. But he definitely is different from other DC artists. Assuming there are more "gangsta" rappers than there are regular rappers is prematurely ignorant. Maybe Ant is just speaking from his lense I think his argument is biased.
Ant Glizzy represents the wrong aspects of D.C. and has the wrong mindset. I'm from DC and we have never been nationally known for rap. DC created GO GO music which put us on the map musically but GOGO music only went so far. Memphis, Atlanta, New York, California all have their own sound. DC never had a rap scene so we can't expect Wale to create a sound and put the whole city on his back. Wale did his part by bringing light to where he claims he from and it's your job to grind and make the most of the attention just like Fat Trel and Shy Glizzy did. The only thing holding Ant back is he talks too much and nobody even responds to him 🤣🤣🤣Wale could've come out and never even mentioned DC or GOGO music 😂 he brought the attention. Ant looking for a father figure to guide him through life and make him successful but he needs to find his real daddy and stop putting some much pressure on Shy and Wale to help him out.
Fat Trel and Shy Glizzy ain’t even that big. What do you nigga be talking about. Wale can’t even sell out capital one. Shit all the DMV artists combined can’t even sell out Capital One.
@@gregoryhawkins9897 Techno music is Detroit music !! And Detroit music scene was the soundtrack of black American music across the world..With living and dead icons… #Motown #funk
Wale came up in a whole different era & isn’t trynna be no extra tough guy. And he put on for DC super heavy whether it be explicitly repping the city or doing shit like paying homage to GoGo etc
Fact of the matter is a lot of the DC rappers are not doing anything to stand out for real. All rapping about the same shit, similar ass beats, same Chief Keef type videos. No Savage could have done something on the mainstream level because although he was rapping about the same shit as every other DC artist. He had good work ethic and actually was lyrical with it. I honestly believe that being on Glizzy Gang was not good for him because Shy never really put anybody on successfully, even though he has plenty industry connections.
It is crazy because I typed this right before the part where he say he would have no savage be the face of the DMV rap scene, with which I agree with 100%. He has both the culture and the image in order to sustain a brand and continually bring attention to himself, on top of being a skilled artist. honorable mention would be SCHLISH, but his music is more lyrical and for the introspective crowd
Fuck outta here, savage one dimensional and not the proper representative for the most politically powerful place on the planet. (Dc) Maybe if he was from Louisiana or Chi we might have something.
Thanks Wale for stamping PG county, making videos in PG mall, where you use to work, putting on gogo, going bck to Landover, and putting on the culture. Respect slim!
Dc is like 12 miles long, you could sneeze and miss that shit on the interstate. Street niggas are broke, the 80’s are over. Wale is the greatest thing to happen to DC’s rap scene. Bruh will forever blame other people for his problems. DC IS ONE OF THE RICHEST AREAS IN AMERICA. A very small portion is the hood.
DC is one of the most wealthiest cities in the U.S. though. Look it up. That doesn’t mean that there aren’t a lot of poor people. Also, there are a lot a public housing complexes all over the city. Some are literally right a couple blocks away from each other.
False people will help once it's beneficial some people don't have the right grind or when they do they don't network with the right people this guy is too emotional u supposed to take the e off emotion n roll wit motion
I’m glad u spoke on this Shawn literally everyone I kno from DC nobody fw Wale an I never understood it lol but ironically he sayin wale soft etc but Wale one of the only rappers who you haven’t heard ever get his chain took tho 🤷♂️
It’s a difference between putting someone on and complaining about getting put on. 1. The current crop of DMV rappers with deals, Not under Wale’s umbrella. 2. The bulk of the artists that were associated with Board of Administration didn’t blown up per se. Trel got his, but did a lot of grinding after he left BOA. 3. There are other DMV Rappers with deals. Ade, Goldlink, Logic, Rico Nasty, Oddisee… They just aren’t in the trap space. What Ant is saying is, Wale’s 10+ year run hasn’t been filled with a flood of rappers after him. Granted there’s others for sure. But the Yo Gotti’s, The Durk’s, The Lil Baby’s, The Gucci’s, they all brought others to the table and set plays for others to flourish. THAT hasn’t happened YET here in The DMV. So when random rappers say, “Wale put me on.” It’s more so, “Wale co-signed me and looked out.” And not, “Wale used his platform to get me a deal.” I get what Ant saying. Ant ain’t complaining about not being out on.
Great points and I'll add that DC has never been known for having rap stars or a major label and Wale wasn't even wanted it was by default. DCTC aka Deacon Preizt would've been the best choice but he went the CHH wrote at that time and labels weren't supporting that yet.
As a 90s baby, Wale definitely made an impact in his prime, with HEAVY competition (as mentioned In here before me). Wale was absolutely DC and everything he did tapped into DC 's roots despite him being from Africa! I'm from the south and I didn't start digging into Go Go music until he hit the scene
I’m from Landover and the problem with the DMV rappers are they put too much focus on being the biggest rapper in the DMV. The world is too big, yeah it’s cool to pop off here but this ain’t it. They make it here and get complacent
I see that a lot with East Coast rappers (DC, Baltimore, NYC, Philly etc) my perspective is this. Since the east coast is so densely populated and some of the largest metro areas and population in the country it’s easy to get local/hood buzz and like you mentioned it makes y’all very complacent.
Just Imagine If Niggas Said Kayne west wasn’t From Chicago Cause He wasn’t Street Rapper Or Kendrick Lamar Doesn’t Represent Los Angeles Because He isn’t street artist or doesn’t sound Like The Old Death Row .
I don't like how he is saying it, but what he is saying is mostly correct. Thr city can't have a movement if the biggest name isn't a reflection of the city. But to me Wale represents the DMV, which is not the city, at least not to the old school guys like me. Having said that, if these guys want to get on, stay out of jail, create a sound that is distinct and stop the petty beefs and work together. If you can't do that, then shut up about it.
Ant doesn’t represent DC he is a has been that got kicked out of Glizzy Gang, but still carries the name😩His platform is all hate and he changes his story up every 2 minutes. He has something negative to say about anybody otw to success from the DMV Also, DC GoGo is splitting the audience for potential rappers
Wale will always get respect in DC for Nike Boots 🫶🏾 that IS the real DC… but it’s been 15 years, and I do agree with Ant that he could put more energy to assisting DC artists make it in the industry. However let’s not forget, Wale really from Maryland so it’s not like he’s connected to a neighborhood in the city anyway 🤷🏽♂️ & Shawn is right our artists don’t do enough on their own to make it if we’re being real. No Savage a perfect example 😢
Bruh the industry don’t even like Wale he has no pull, that’s a testament to want ant saying Wale put a lot of bad taste in ppls mouths n he’s the representation of this area so it’s just all bad fr. Gotta burn this shit from the root then regrow it so I ain’t mad at ant for doing what he doing
@@cabbage1593 I respect Ant for his opinion but he helped ppl. He was on Shy glizzy first mixtape, helped him by bringing him on tour, this before Shy was anybody and before Chief Keef diss. Secondly he still was fucking with Fat Trel. He also stamped lightshow. He also put gogo in his music, dress and swag was us. Wale was on that fly shit before rappers was wearing SB dunks, slim jeans etc. Put respect on wale name.
@@yessir8805 Trust I used to be a fan but I know he’s done more bad than good deserves no respect honestly. I’ve been around artist who are bigger than Wale who have told me personally they have had bad experiences with him. And shit like that does nothing but hurt my city.
@@yessir8805 and all those ppl u named rather they didn’t take advantage or watever the case may be aren’t nowhere nobody cares bout those artist they have no respect in the industry no big relationship let alone successful careers so they not even “put on” fr lol we gotta be real
I agree with everything you said except the part where you used No Savage as a example. How No Savage didn't do enough on his own when he got 1 million plus views on multiple songs? I think No Savage was on his way to blowing up, I think that mall situation set him back tho, if that whole mall situation didn't happen, it would have only been a matter of time, he would have started blowing up eventually
