Baal didn't understand the restrictions that the Ancients placed on Anubis, hence the final question, and the answer which reveals just how murderously insane Anubis was.
***** True to their mythology, Ra and Apophis battled every night in the underworld. Strange how they are brothers when all symbiotes are born asexually. Perhaps it was imprinted upon them by the queen for some reason?
Jacob Snyder Ba'al went from being a megalomaniac selling the idea that he was a god, maybe believing it himself, to basically becoming a Ted Turner / Donald Trump / Branson / Gates wannabe. :)
+Jacob Snyder Sadly, Ra had very little screen time to actually form his character fully - he died in the first Stargate movie. I would substitute Sokar for Ra, but sadly, he also had very little screen time, 2 episodes I think.
Right at the end, I can picture Baal uploading an FML story. "Today, I helped save the galaxy from the evil Replicators, only to learn my boss is gonna use my work to destroy everything in the galaxy. FML."
One of the more chilling diatribes on SG1. Not only because of what Anubis said, but I think Ba'al's reaction really sells it. Cliff Simon is an amazing actor!
Anubis is a great admirer of the bestseller 'A Handy Guide To Everlasting Power'. Chapter VI, Paragraph 14: Under any circumstance, if you know your minion to be a traitor, lay out your billiant grand design before him! If you then leave the room for some mysterious and to onlookers incomprehensible reason without executing aformentioned minion and onlookers, you have confused them and proven your vast superiority.
I just think of the scene in "The good, the bad, and the ugly".. Where Tuco the at was in the bath tub, and the guys come in to kill him, and then they start talking...blah Blah blah.. Tuco shoots them and gives them his words of wisdom.. "Shoot, don't talk"...
Nitpicking Nerd Nope. His plan was to wipe out all life with the device on Dakara and then use it to create new life that would be entirely subservient to him. He basically wanted to literally be a god, the creator of all life in the Milky Way. He just needed to destroy the existing life first.
"The extent of his power cannot be put into words... and his perceptions have grown as well. To him... you are dust motes in a storm... a grain upon the beach... and as insignificant as a body that orbits the graveyard of Abydos. He sees planets, stars... not people. To him, the plane below, the galaxy with its teeming life, only that is massive enough to demand his attention."
@IJN Yamato he did seem to enjoy it when he got the body that he has in this video , he admired it in the mirror after he got into it . probably picked it out from a large choice . too bad it only lasts a few days
Two of the best Stargate villains ever written in one scene. Ba'al was Intelligent ruthless and charming, for a Goa'uld. And Anubis was brilliant powerful and mad!
@@gerryfogarty8274 I always thought it was interesting about how he responded to not modifying the gates himself it wasn't that he couldn't do it he needed a mortal like baal to do it to prove to the others it could be done by a non ascended being
+Ryan Greenham Wrong, Anubis wasn't possessing a corporeal form, he was an ascended being, cast down half way. The sarcophagus had an effect on the physical bodies and eventually the mind, but he was beyond that existence, they would have no effect on him.
More like he knew he could survive it, therefore didn't care, as part way ascended he could use the device after destroying everything to re-create life the way the ancients did to rebuild the galaxy after the plague, but this time in his image. For egotistical maniacal sociopath warlords and tyrants, that is the ultimate dream-job.
He didn't go mental, from his perspective it is totally rational to destroy all life in the galaxy. He can then seed life as he sees fit and have them worship him, thus gaining more power. He is an incorporeal, eternal being, he has all the time in the world, literally.
@@danielleza908 Precisely. To an immortal time is a very different concept. If you live forever the concept doesn't have the same impetus on it, if you have a plan that takes a billion years to unfold, so be it. It's of little consequence. Time matters to us because we have a limited amount of it and we need to achieve our goals relatively quickly.
Baal was terrified and surprised at this scene Anubis wanted to destroy the galaxy and this is a great crime, Baal understood it and did not want to let it happen, he did not kill for no reason, he would rather rule the galaxy than destroy it Baal did nothing without sense and had emotions (we remember the episode 'Abyss' where a certain woman named Shanann performed, many Goauld would torture her /escape case/ and then ask, Baal locked her in order but didn't torture her, he preferred to do it to Jack and find out from him, this female slave was a sex slave /concubine of Baal , so he probably didn't want to spoil the relationship, the episode confirms that everything he did was thought out) he also always worked only for himself he was independent, even as it was said he supervised the work himself, he also made inventions himself, he was a scientist and a very good strategist in this scene, after talking, Baal realizes that Anubis is insane that's probably why he started working with Tauri or humans Anubis is a monster, and Baal realized it by the way- I dont know why they deleted this scene from episode, its very important,and great acting too
Ba'al would have no issues with wiping out all life either - as long as he can survive. The only reason he doesn't go along with any of this is because he'd be dead as he cannot ascend. If he had Anubis' powers he'd have done it himself.
So, he's like the movie version (Deleted Scene) of that 'spokesman of Sauron' where speaking on behalf of 'The Dark Lord'(tm) causes physical 'corruption' to his mouth
"Today I had to beg for help from my arch-nemesis on Earth and he was a total dick about it. Still hasn't gotten over me killing and reviving him during torture. FML"
it must be frustrating for Anubis he knows where all the good ancient stuff is but he could never directly go for them. he needed others to work them out still gave him an advantage
eternal combat lol. in my opinion, that was the dumbest writing in the entire show. they could have descended him like they did with Daniel except without the goa'uld having the human as his host and never having a possibility of regaining his memory's as an ascended. they could have done the same thing with Adria when morgan defeated her.
@@user-tp5yb4hr4w It wasn't dumb, (at least at the time of writing) it was done because the Others wanted Oma to deal with her mistake, sure they could have descended him, but they care about cosmic issues and not the death of a single galaxy and Oma was a threat to the cosmic balance. That said it is made retroactively dubious by the Season 9 and 10 storyline revealing that the ascended get superpowered from worship, so they risked allowing Anubis to power up enough to be a threat on par with the Ori, like Adria was when the full Ori worshipper power went to her. To be fair to the Others we can probably assume they were betting on Oma stepping in at the last second. They knew she cared about the Milky Way and its people, that is why she aided people in ascension from her temple at Kheb after all. After spending thousands of years trying to convince her to end her work, they resorted to forcing her with the one piece of leverage they had. It's even possible that if Oma had not stepped in in the final moments then the Others would have still prevented Anubis from establishing a galaxy wide power base and would have taken him down, even if it was after he activated the weapon, after all they can just reseed the Milky Way galaxy with life afterwards. It makes sense if you look at it from the perspective of a group which does not value corporeal lifeforms in any major way, Oma, Daniel, Orlin, Merlin and such were outliers and not representatives of the normal ascended, it was abnormal that they cared so much for mortals.
@@Balgoriusis i know that, but they were often very stupid for being enlightened beings, i mean Anubis plans to basically destroy all life in the galaxy they didn't lift a finger, it was only Oma and her followers who were willing to fight him in that situation, i swear the OTHERS are the most moronic of all the ascended beings. they almost allowed the Ori to destroy them because of their stupid logic of not interfering, and it was only the ones who defied the OTHERS who ended up stopping both Anubis and the Ori.
@@user-tp5yb4hr4w Their approach to handling both crisis is actually perfectly consistent, from their point of view. Anubis was Oma's fault. The rule of not helping mortals ascend exists precisely to prevent those from ascending who don't deserve it at all. Forbidding from using any ascended powers pretty much de-ascended him. Since the knowledge of how to gain power from believers was probably not present anywhere in the mortal realms, Anubis was not a threat to them anymore. The rest was Oma's problem. She was probably expected to take the fall and bind Anubis in eternal combat right away, but she reasoned she could somehow balance his evil actions by helping a lot of his victims ascend. (Did she ever drop any hints on how to combat him?) Anubis regaining Dakara changed everything. The Ori couldn't be restricted that way. They were way too powerful. And it's not even likely that they would have won even if they had recruited followers on their own. Many would probably have broken ranks and joined the Ori. Maybe many ascended already did so long ago. The remainder stuck to their rules and would act very subtly only. Hiding Avalon and Pegasus from the Ori, allowing Myrddin to build the weapon, ignoring that Ganos Lal only fulfilled only the letters and not the instructions of her orders by putting Myrddin in statis, and her finally leaving for the Ori's galaxy to help SG1. Acting against the Ori was not even on the Ancient's agenda, ever. The root cause of the Ori invasion is Myrddin's attempt to build the weapon, and Ganos Lal being lenient with the cleanup. Finally, Ganos Lal sacrificing herself was not even necessary to defeat Adria. After turning her believers away, Adria was not much more powerful than any other ascended anymore. Ganos Lal really only had to engage Adria to save SG1 and to tie that loose end up once and for all. Mortals finding this approach reprehensive does not bother them. It might even be their intention. To prevent there ever being another schism, they have to prevent mortals from knowing about them and worshipping them. Preventing each other from crossing that moral event horizon is the only thing they can do for mortals without eventually becoming like the Ori.
This scene puts into perspective why Anubis kept his First Prime, Her'ak, around even when he messed up a little when he tolerated failure from no one else. Good help, loyalty and absolute faith are difficult qualities to find in henchmen 😅
It's all explained throughout the series. It's unclear if the Goa'uld were malevolent to begin with or if them being evil was caused by their use of the sarcophagus, but in any case the immortality that came with it's use and the ability to take a fresh host when their body died made them consider themselves gods, even though they knew their power was limited by their technology. Then Anubis tricked Oma Desala into helping him ascend, which made him an actual divine being of sorts. This only added to the already existing evil-god-complex he had as a Goa'uld, as showcased in this video.
The Goa'uld understood the dangers of the Sarcophagus and were actively trying to fix the flaw when Anubis killed the only 1 who understood the tech. The existence of the Tok'Ra and the fact that Yu (and even Ba'al to an extent) were level headed prove that they weren't inherently evil. Anubis was a genocidal madman before they became corrupted, basically a cartoon villain. Most bad guys are the heroes of their own stories, Anubis was evil because being evil was fun.
@@davidkelly4210 you only believe he was written as a cartoon villain based off of this scene, but his plan was to commit genocide as well recreate life in the galaxy to serve him just as the Ori do.
I like how the opening shot is just reused footage of Sokar's base. I'm pretty sure the moon shown (Netu) blew up, hehe! :) Also, I like how Anubis' chamber or whatever it's called is dark and has fire everywhere. Very nice.
SPOILER ALERT! Even in "Continuum", he wasn't about killing, just the power of taking over the galaxy. (From the regular series, he was flirting outrageously with Sam[and who could blame him, being influenced by LUST the host undoubtabally had for pretty fellow humans!] in almost every one of their interactions.)
@HaBooBo0 Anubis is a partially ascended being, and up til the end of season 7 (episode Lost City), he had an energy shield keeping his form intact. Since then he is able to possess humans for a time, like any Goa'uld. Something about his essence causes their body to rot and he has to move from host to host. Thats why he has the scabs on his face in this clip.
True, true! Sokar was scary and of course Ra was awesome being the Supreme System Lord and all! But i guess it would have been hard to bring him back since he died in the movie...I really hope Anubis returns for one of the Stargate SG1 TV movies coming out soon...or maybe he or Baal will move to the Pegasus Galaxy and threaten Atlantis!
He's right about it missing. The problem with US Television is that they don't want to teach in cruel accuracies of life. This scene depicts betrayal, loyalty, and cruelty of ambition. In 'real life' this is how it works more often than not.
When they defeated the replicators they essentialy did the mass effect 3 "destroy" ending, Anubis wants to do the destroy endign without sufficient assets. Im guesing the writers for ME3 were Stargate fans.
i think sc2 was loosely based off of sg1 and sga. THE planet meinhoff in sc2, was based of the hoffman planet in sga. Although sg1, sga kinda borrowed some of its elements from star trek ds9.
And then he genetically engineered a progeny just as fucking intimidating. God, Anubis was the most bad ass goa'ould of all time, next to Apophis!!! Fuck the rest
After 8 years of war with the Goa'uld, the Jaffa are finally about to be free, the Tok'ra no longer needing to be in hiding in underground tunnels and the Tauri (Humans of Earth)no longer needing to fear being wiped out. Now all of that is within their grasp. Anubis is about to ruin 8 years of hard work in a few days with the oush of a button.
@rikilicious The original version of Threads is roughly 70 minutes long. So, they cut several scenes for the reruns. The full version is on the Season 8 DVD.
It would have been SO easy for the series writers to make a few changes and create an actual alliance between Ba'al and "the good guys". He was both a class act, a highly intelligent and competent player, and completely rational in pursuit of his goals. He would have made a very powerful ally and if he had become allied, it would have established a safe haven of sorts for the Head Snakes. (Goa'uld)
it would've been cool to have Sokar around so he would go against Anubis. That would've been an interesting storyline...both evil geniuses and ruthless.
anubis is cool. i wish he hadn't been destroyed and we could have watched him more in the series. especially, a struggle btwn him and the ori would be so exciting.
