Archery | Thumb Rings 

Not too many explain this technique very completely... tried to use it just from looking at archers shooting it but didn't have any success...

​@@tbcoachniblick1208any success? Im new to stick and string former mathews shooter lived it but i now need to something new but old. 😊 enough about me if u have success can you makea video and thank u in advance wven if you dont answer i still Thank You 😊

@@user-gk6om1dy9d here, try reading pages 20-22 from this: koreanbow.com/Freddie-Archery-Catalogue.pdf

wow, that's nasty

I'm confused. Is this a warning or a boast?

@@Susikohmelo hahahahah i read his comment and was thinking hmm weird what does he even mean and read your comment ahahaha

@@Susikohmelo I took it as a gross but kinda cool story lol

Same here, when I got the first toy bow I instantly going for thumb draw. It's just so natural.

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@Mustafa Gordon Instablaster =)

Yes for me Fasho

Indeed.

It has some learning curve, also accentuated by the fact that most local stores don't know much about it or carry what you need makes it harder. But it just makes more sense to shoot like this.

@@iamnotavictim69 Indeed, depending on where you live, the shops offering archery equipment varies in quality. At least that's my case here in Quebec, Canada. And those rare shop who devote themselves to archery equipment, are often too expensive compared to the average price that one can find on the internet. When a local merchant asks me for an additional $100 for an item that would normally come back to me around $250 .. you can believe me that I say thank's but no thank's and I salute him, but just with a finger.. I let you guess which one. . :-) Have a nice day !

I think in part it's popularity is due to the preparedness movements currently burgeoning worldwide, Swords and bows are preferable in countries where firearms are less widely available, but also more practicable longterm as materials and processes are far simpler to obtain and perform in the dreaded/awaited Societal collapse, And of course pre-collapse, the savvy have cottoned onto the trend in thought and are making their last few dollars from the demand.

In old manuscripts, leather protection is described as a better option for consistency and accuracy.

@@marektaziar5402 yea, the militaries use leather thumb ring because it's cheap and flexible, the reason is they need quantity and shooting speed to rain down arrows on the enemies.

@@kaikart123 sotoy!

Well, a Yumi bow has pretty light draw weight so you don't really need a full glove. Just use a leather thumb ring and that's all you need.

you can always make yourself a wooden thumb ring from some old bed leg or any other big enough chunk of hardwood

I am maker of this ring

I make this

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You have to use left hand to shoot then

@@Unlocos. Thanks!

the stone rings are for the string hand, manchu rings!

@@quisazaderak9257 Thank you for the reply. I've just looked up manchu thumb rings and watched the videos so now understand how they are used. I may try one to see how easy it is to keep the ring on the thumb.

After year of training I'm comfortable with 50# bow without ring. It is all about technique. Strength comes from clench and not from thumb.

@@marektaziar5402 The pain/numbness isn't in the thumb muscle, it's from pinching the nerve or bruising the pad before it's conditioned. It's like when you learn to play guitar, you get terrible blisters on your finger tips for the first few months

​@@mrnice752 But 20# bow and 9 arrows ? There must be something wrong with technique.

hol up, 20# bow is very light. I am a skinny and weak yet I could still bare thumb draw my 40# bow all day (until I got fed up with sore joint and skin). You must be doing something really wrong.

If I am not remembering wrong, you can repeat research thumb ring and eventually make your archers a gattling gunner

What we can say... WTF RU-vid! There should be more competition, atleast some companies that are willing to respect their own customers/creators!

"Shoot" won't get you demonetized.

r. decline shoot is associated with guns on RU-vid so I'd imagine saying shoot anything RU-vid would determine it as gun violence stuff so that would get you demonetized

@@humphrey7079 how do you describe pool moves then? What about skeet ball ? What about the sport in the Olympics call "shot put ?" I think it's a matter of how you base your tagging/ linking things to your channel rather than over reaching for demonitozation. Now cussing, racism, sexism, slander, etc. That might just do the trick. A single word should have to be validated within the context used to be demonitized. If it's not then YT needs to fix their policies. They are gonna lose alot of people for bullying the crap out of their own site. Funny how there's so many more companies commercialing their ads and campaigns... Why not make it harder for them?

@@tableauxofficial7895 that's precisely why RU-vidrs getting mad at RU-vid, they associate even the littlest thing to gun and instantly demonetize them. This is why so many content creator now rely on Patreon so they can use the correct term "shoot" freely.

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Specifically which barebow competitions?

@@NUSensei Good point, I did not think this through. I guess a world competition. (I am fairly new to all things archery)

@@valeriemcdonald440 Same question though: which world competition? Each competition has their own rule sets and definitions of "barebow".

@@NUSensei Okay, I will revise the question: Are there any world class competitions at all that allow you to chose the way you draw, or is it typically restricted to one style?

@@valeriemcdonald440 The Conquest Cup is an example of an international competition that allows for a range of bow types and draw styles. The World Horse Archery Championships are also similar in that the riders can choose whichever style they want to use.

The index finger isn't hooked onto the string.

@@NUSensei Thanks, somehow I missed the section starting around 3:45. That is very useful. I've been doing it wrong! No wonder I didn't like it.

One man can't cover all styles of archery competently. There are other channels that cover Native American styles. Check out Panagiotis.

It's really hard without strong pinching on even 30# bow.

When I was a Kid(about 10) we used to play in the woods with home made bows and arrows, we used the pinch draw because we didn't know any other way, we only made small nocks on the arrows so the pinch draw held the arrow in place not the nock, very low draw weight bows, made from green wood and ordinary parcel string, But hey we were only kids!

A couple of things about using a thumb ring. In loosing an arrow, the string will travel outwards along the ring even as the string moves forward over the blade of the ring. This should take it past the side of your head and your glasses without contacting either. A second more relevant point is to cant your bow slightly. This will take the upper half of the string off the side of your head. The amount of cant mentioned to me by Korean friends at my jeong (club) is five degrees. In fact I cant my bow about 15 so as to allow me to see the target better. When using a thumb ring, the upper part of your index finger is used to apply slight pressure to the arrow just in front of the nock. This pressure will hold the arrow in the V formed by your gripping thumb and the side of the bow. This allows you to cant the bow thus taking the string away from you and your glasses. My wife wears glasses and barely cants her bow and has absolutely no contact with the string. Many other Koreans I shoot with shoot much the same as her. As far as canting your bow and getting the feel of it canted, try this. Just draw your bow, hold the draw, then let off. Take the time to sense where the string is at full draw. Have you drawn your hand in close to your neck? Is the string touching the side of your head? If it is, try canting the bow slightly and see if the string comes off your head. Now in truth, canting your bow after reaching full draw is not a good idea. In doing that, your gripping hand and arm will not be in the ideal position to loose an arrow. Rather, the canting of the bow should be done as part of the draw or better said as with-in the draw. In introducing new members to archery, Koreans do it in stages. 1. The first is simply drawing the bow without an arrow. The instructor watches and corrects their form. 2. When this initial stage is done well, an arrow is introduced and the process is repeated. I'll add here that the arrow makes a world of difference when it comes to getting your form down perfect. Note that there is still no shooting of an arrow. 3. However, the students will eventually go to a stand where they will shoot a tethered arrow. 4. When that is done well, they are then allowed to shoot at a target. This process usually takes about a month depending how often the students come to the jeong. In your case, and as you will be your own judge on how you are doing, I'd say do 2 until you feel your draw is good enough that the string will clear your head and glasses. Unless you have a tethered arrow or want to make one (about ten metres of para cord attached to an arrow's point in some manner and standing on its loose end will work), go to 4. Take your time overall and don't rush to get to shooting. One last bit of advice, don't rush your draw. Draw slowly so you can evaluate the draw and the amount of cant you are adding. Take the time in getting to full draw. I hope your bow's poundage is not so high that you struggle when drawing to full draw as that will hurt your evaluation and your form. Anyway, I hope you can find the confidence to go with a thumb ring as it will open up a whole new experience with your bow. Best and many hits.

I also wear glasses, the string just won't touch your glasses because when you release it, it will slightly go to the outside of the bow before launching the arrow.

The top is usually marked with the makers logo and draw weight. If not, look for the arrow pass. It's on the top part of the handle. If that's missing too, contact the maker of the bow. Depending on the price you may have a bow that can be shot both ways. Also, there are asymetrical bows where the top limb is longer than the bottom one

Most Korean bowyers who make carbon bows print their name or the company`s name below the grip and it`s written so it reads from the grip down. However, you would still have to be familiar with Hangeul or Chinese letters as you might read it upside down and not realize that. Hornbow bowyers only have two small labels with their name glued onto the sayahs. However, they usually mark the upper sayah with a Chinese character that means more or less top. The grip on a Korean bow is about eight to nine cm long. The diameter of the top is less than the bottom. This should cover most Korean bows.

This is fairly common for bows of that particular grip and design. Believe me, when I look at some worn-out bows, that part of the bow is completely shot out. Other bow designs incorporate arrow-pass material that is more durable, such as rayskin, wood or bone.

Korean bowyers put a serving, be it monofilament, or a twisted or braided thread above and below the grip for about five cm. Where the arrow passes, a leather patch is glued on with contact cement. When the leather has wear to the extent that the serving shows, it is replaced. Spine is something to consider. Another thing to consider, is the type of arrows you have. Koreans use two types of arrows: carbon shafted ones with plastic vanes, and bamboo ones with pheasant feathers. The former can quickly wear out any kind of protection for your bow's limb if the spine of the arrows is off. I`ve tried several materials. You mentioned leather; you know the result with that. One bow I bought had a thin piece of bamboo. It wore out faster than leather. I`ve tried aluminum from a beer can. Once that wore through, the sharp edge started shaving carbon fibre from my arrows. It all came down to getting the spine to match the poundage of my carbon bows. In the case of bamboo and feathers, I haven`t had any wear ever, even with a soft leather patch. Koreans use a different system of measuring length and spine/weight of arrows. For the sake of brevity, I use arrows with a length of 6.5. I`ve shot 6.5 arrows with spines of 5.0 (light) to ones that were 7.0 (stiff). Regardless of spine, there was no wear. That`s my experience having shot both for 19 years now.

@@NUSensei can you use teflon tape for a quick and slippery fix?

There are many ways to grip the thumb. Some people prefer one finger lock, others one and a half and you can also do two fingers as well. And then there are also a lot of variations of each. Do what feels best for you.

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@@datGuy0309 That`s debatable.