Great video i did some experiments some time ago by hanging different weights off 12"of elastic 2oz 4oz 6oz and 8oz and plotting the results on a graph to see if some built up the pressure quicker than others
Good bit of putting elastics in the proper box with regards to width, stretch and strength. I have used all plus more of these elastics during my Pole fishing years and have now settled on Duraslip since the year before last. I like the way it stretches under load and then starts powering up which means less lost fish. Good Video and very useful to especially new anglers. Great.
Good video, thanks, you found a good way of testing them relative to each other. I’ve used all three of these elastics on the bank. I think all grades of slik are very different to the other hybrids and work differently. The Drennan and duraslip results surprised me as I felt they were similar in use, perhaps I have slightly different tensions (therefore amounts) in my top kits. Inevitably we all adjust tension on the bank after landing a few fish. I think the overall conclusion to stick to one brand is spot on. Personally my favourite is the MAP stuff.
Yes a simple test, there's a couple more videos coming soon for 1.8mm and 2.2mm. I then might think about testing them with weights but I haven't worked out a simple method that's cheap and easily captured on camera. I like to watch your reviews Paul, very thorough🙂👍.
@@AverageAngler look forward to the next ones, I know from experience testing something in a camera friendly way can be difficult! I’d be interested in how much stretch each brand has before bottoming out, someone posted on a forum that the Drennan hybrid didn’t stretch as much as duraslip which adds another level of complication to you findings in this video!
Really liked this video I bought a second hand pole last year and had no idea what elastics I had in the five kits. It was good to hear you say it might be an idea to stick to one brand, because that’s what I did buying Preston’s nines and elevens. Don’t know why I went for Preston’s but I can make decisions this year if I like it or if I need a wider choice. Looking forward to more tests👌
Great video and definitely very interesting to see. The hybrids could still be the same material, as all manufacturers steal from each other, but a different extrusion die that they used which gives the different diameters. Just a thought. It would be interesting to see if you take say 5cm of each one and stretch it until it bottoms out. There might be a correlation between that and diameter! Thinner diameter more stretch as you saw in this video. I've got loads of off-cuts that I tie around my top kits to use as hook retainers but never thought of try this with them. Keep up the good work and experiments.
Are elastics extruded? I dont know how they are made? Quality control.could also see fluctuations in diameter which is something I have thought about. Thanks for commenting and watching🙂👍 more videos to come on thos subject.
I always compare elastics and use about 5cms and pull it till it bottoms out, I now only use Daiwa hydro and hybrid as it is the best, slik and core are good but really do stretch a fair bit and the colour fades causing confusion Daiwa hybrid is very similar to slip original but has more give in the higher grades , anything above 14 from preston is too harsh, I tried the hollos and think they are really poor , I now stick to Daiwa and Preston slip original for canal and river work and contrary to popular belief all hybrids are not made in the same factory
Great video I would have done the stretch test differently. Perhaps hgone to a field with a bank stick used a top kit length and stretched till it bottomed out and measured there.
I now only use the same brand and range within that brand as I'm not convinced an 8-10 from one manufacturer is the same as 8-10 from another - so sticking to the same brand/range gives me more confidence and I think it best to stick to the brand I'm happy with (like when I used to smoke! ). These tests are interesting but does have variables in it as invariably you will have one side of your body stronger than the other. You could knock up a simple rig where the elastic is held fixed at one end and a container is at the other end. A set weight is put in the container and the stretch measured. It would also be interesting to see how much weight each one takes to break. Thanks for the videos, I enjoy them👍
Very interesting video. However there could be a variation in the forces applied by each hand as you would have a dominant hand. Just a thought if you took the same length elastic ( 150mm) fixed one end and vertically hang the same weight off each one against a ruler/ tape etc… I believe this would give a more accurate representation of the elastic qualities. Keep the all videos coming you are doing a fantastic job. 👍🏻
The forces applied by each hand are equal and opposite because the system is static (in equilibrium). If a dominant hand was exerting more force, then that end would be moving (accelerating) see Newtons 3rd law.
Love this kind of video Brilliant. Just getting into pole fishing thinking of getting the nufish zipp elastic think it's quite cheap compared to some got any idea on it brill vid mate Cheers
Excellent video especially the micrometre the drennan looked 1.93 Preston a 2 and matrix 2.08 always thought this when I've bought it off eBay the grades were out
Yes Chris very hard to measure elastic as it deflects very easily. The Matrix if definitely bigger with preston next then drennan. Wait for the next one, there's another unexpected result.
How many factories produce elastics, especially those for fishing? Only a few. Also how do the companies store it? Preston stores theirs (I believe) in their lubricant. There are a few guys selling Hybrid elastic cheaper, even the brand's vary so much in price. How about adding 100g weights to each bit, say 1m long and see how far each stretches. Also need to take into account the 'recoil' or 'powering up' of each.
I was planning on hanging weights on them, something I might save for a later video. It's quite hard to film it nicely. Wait for the next one, proper shock result been filming it today.
For the pulling force per unit length extension try tying one end of a fixed length of elastic to a set of scales - low weight say up to 5lb. (I've used my ancient Little Sampson spring scales). Pull from slack to max extension. If there is 'power up' then the pulling force per unit length extension should change - increase i.e. be non-linear & I'd image after a given length the pull force will bottom out to linear...? I did a similar test with fishing rods to prove to myself that the standard test curve measure through 90deg. was pretty meaningless on its own...
Like most stuff all sellers source their products from a few specialist manufacturers in China sometimes to their own spec sometimes generic just the branding changes
I do something similar but don’t tie them up silk stretches the most and Daiwa hybrid the most consistent, I did try Preston stuff but found it much too harsh compared to hydro and hybrid
Might seem a daft question but are all 2mm elastics rated different on the packet ie 12 to 14s would this not relate to the different stretch factor even if they are all 2mm as you have shown the seem not to be?
I have played with this idea, need a very accurate and delicate scale none of mine are upto the task☹. But I have been thinking about using fixed size weights??
Not quite sure wot to take from that,but wot I will say is imo Preston dura int very long lasting as a elastic its fine for a few wks but soon starts to break down,now changed to middy seems a lot beta and it's cheaper and at the moment u get 6m in a pack ,so 2 top kits for 4quid,suits me tite Yorkshire man
You get 6m in the drennan and it's also very cheap. Not tried middy I could extend the testing out I I could get hold of some more brands🙂. Thanks for watching theres another couple of videos coming on the same topic!
they all have gradings, 8 to 10 , 12 to 14 etc so why would you look at diameter, I'm using map hybrids at the moment but I think it stretches has much has dura slip from preston which is the best I've used
They do all state diameter on the packaging and I can test that because its an absolute. Elastic grading is very much a human feel thing and so will vary from consultant to consultant. Thanks for watching and commenting. Should be a few more like.this coming soon.
Ive looked at this issue because there is no set standard. Why don't you get a digital spring scales. Set a fixed length of elastic and then measure the force at 1x 2x 3x stretch etc and produce a force distance graph for each! Not all elastic are equal, between the makes that is, an I'd doing my head in trying to get the right setups
@@AverageAngler Really, I got a set of portable electronic scales 40 kg that read In grams. How can I send you photos and graphic results that I've done on elastic characteristics?
Not a bad video but I hear different things said about all the hybrid elastics on the market. I Think most are all about the same one way or another but it comes to wear and tear I prefer the Preston elastic for my choice but some anglers say it wears quicker than the Matrix elastic,so the proof is on the bank
True Kev, also you never know how long each batch has been in transit or storage, also batch fluctuations may be a consideration. Everyone's got different opinions. This is why I am measuring I've already surprised myself with the findings, more revelation to come on the next video👍. Thanks for watching.
