Are the Changes to the 2020 Honda Civic Si Enough to Make it a Baby Type R? 

Brunark or those Android charging ports.

You plug your tv in to see whats happening inside the engine, that’s the purpose of it

All the round things you must imagine when you see a round exhaust. Dizzying.

And lunch tray looking rear bumper accents

I pointed that out to my wife and she can’t unsee it now

Yet no Redline score? Still a great review as usual though.

Witty!

can never unsee it now lmao

And I prefer the wheels before this model year but the only thing that bugs me is that the Touring had the same wheels as the Si for 2019

William Saad We also get Heated rear seats, built in Navigation, built in wireless charger and a spare tire usually Canadian Honda’s are usually better equipped even our CRV gets a panoramic sunroof

I ain't from Canada but ik alot of teens

f181234 This I didn’t know. Pretty surprised

@@williamsaad6833 I drive a 17 Canadian Si and it fascinates me how different the Canadian version is this generation. The differences are actually summed up in that the US model is based on an Ex-T, where the Canadian Si was a touring model with the safety sensors removed. The actual reasoning iirc was that civics are significantly more popular in canada and they have to add in a little more value to keep it relevant up here. also fun fact, Canadian civics in general have a 2x larger windshield washer tank and is placed on the driver side. Incredibly underrated feature that I can dump over a gallon of washer fluid once the low indicator shows up (which apparently is also a Canadian thing).

I like the sedan better, but I do think they should add a hatch Si.

Be a cool dad and get the R. Your kids will get alot of chicks when you drop them off at school. 😎

@@bloopbloop2019 Of course, there's always that cost difference also. In my case, my kids would rather have food in their mouth than the Type R in the driveway.

I agree the sedan looks ugly so a hatch si would look good

Get a Hyundai Veloster N. It's $10,000 cheaper.

Lmao ghost shifting

Ya we should call it an automatic! Because it automatically shifts!

I always read his name like Soy Fan. Maybe he is one. That would be cool

I like it when a Car has more acceleration than he thought it would have and he screams like a little girl!!

Except for the fact that he says "actually" "actually""actually""actually""actually""actually""actually" every other word! I can't take him saying that so I mute the sound on his overviews.

...from a 2013 Civic...

Yesss

@Viet Nguyen not for the ilx

That’s a nice way of putting it. The Si or any current civic put the ILX to shame since it’s still the previous gen civic platform with zero added features or updates.

ILX is whack just go for the TLX SH-AWD V6. Solid car

You could just buy a sport, and tune it.

They actually are making a fit type r BUT only for Japan. Who knows if it'll release outside of Japan let alone the USA.

@@3FreddyKrueger Another JDM we have to wait for 25 years

@@3FreddyKrueger doubt it'll come here since the base fit isn't even coming to the US :/

@@jordanrosenberg9816 I blame the people that want a Honda Odyssey type r instead of something light and nimble

Just get the HFP trim it’s all round better and extra engine stuff

Silverstone AP2 it wouldn’t take too much to hit 3’s in these

They're going for sticker now, the mark up is done.

@@jayprimo Thank god. I remember the 2017s were going for 40-50k

@@EMed9423 Yea, I know. Some dealers still trying to get away with, especially with a first year low nunbered model, but where I an in NY for the most part you can walk into majority of Honda dealers and pay sticker for a brand new one. Which works in my favor, no volume knob on 16-17s is a dealbreaker for me lol

Jay Primo exactly. I can’t justify the hikes up price. I would rather get a civic and out in 10k and call it a day then an extra 5k for a type R

A good wrap isn't exactly cheap you know.

@@user-gm4kv2my4u true but just a figure of speech

Your oil dilution must be crazy, hope you get it analyzed

@@fzr1000981 it is a problem but in cold weather areas but even then it can be fixed by changing the oil every 5k miles. Its a good car and its definitely a different type of car compared to the k series engines.

@@kevfig4114 would you suggest changing it lower than 5k miles? Just curious. I drive a 90s vehicle so I'm used to changing sooner lol.

No problems so far and yes I looked into oil dilution issues, it used to occur if user is in a cold climate and does trips too short to warm engine so as a floridian not concerned too much, still haven't done power mods, how's the clutch, trans hold up I have a 20 si with 10k

You need the 2.0 which has the baffled head

It's fake sound

Webster Kollie I was thinking the same thing. Looks really ugly in the back

Agree to disagree

I have the 2019 sport hatch and I think it looks miles better than the Si and you’re only give up 25 hp lol. Once I get a tune I’ll be over the 205 that the Si has👌🏼

Steal the tips from a Sport hatch, yo.

Or you could give it a single exhaust off the side since giving it a quad or dual would be overkill and Y style pipes are pretty... idk fake ?

I got mine because there is nothing more enjoyable as a daily for the price, blue sedan but the coupe looks better, have kids need the doors

Still not as bad as the WRX and other lower prices vehicles

really?

Wireless charging isn’t standard, you pay extra for it, there was two at the dealership one with and one without. I got the one with

I've had mine for 10 thousand miles so far ,it's a great little car

xlasvegan7x those Android ones 😂😂😂😂

lol

more like HDMI port

dude leather suuucks in the winter too. i'm so used to my 18 si cloth that when i got into someone's leather car after sitting overnight in 40 degrees it was harsh

It looks nice i guess

Yup I used to have an Acura tl type s that had leather seats. They would burn my legs in the summer then in the winter the would be so cold I would refuse to sit on them until the heated seats got warm enough. I have just a normal Honda civic ex coupe now and aside from it being manual the cloth seats have to be my favorite part about the switch. They never get cold or hot! They just exist and its great!!

Easier to clean and doesn't absorb dust

@@streetdemons991 i respect it. i just dont like getting burned, i dont mind a lil dust Xp

George R you can get pnp led touring units from theretrofitsource.com

@@eddiemcars ill check it out. Thank u bro

Get a PRL cold air intake. Look it up. Best intake in the market plus it add a great sound when letting go off the throttle. I have it on my 2018 and it's great

If you want the best bang for your buck performance modification, invest in Hondata Flashpro. Thank me later

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With about $2500 - $3000 in upgrades you can achieve about 315 WHP. Thats more then the type R. So get a used 17 Si for 21K, get the mods and you’re still under 25K. I have spent about $1600 in mods and I’m pushing 280 WHP and i love it.

@@pigeon1519 you can tune a type r too. The motor is better in the type-r also.

Rich Racing oh yeah no definitely, i just dont like the hatch look. In addition, i have yet to see a type priced for what it should be, they’re all up selling the price.

pigeon151 how that stock clutch holding up. Heard the stock clutch on these start to slip after 20psi lol

Its a 24k car. You cant expect much in terms on interior quality at that price point

I like the 2019 much better with the exception of the LED headlights.

@@zatharos6427 Tell Mazda that, they would disagree.

Yup... Exactly. Mazda interior is done right! But lack the sport power. I came out of a Mazdaspeed 3. Man if they made a speed 3 of this current Mazda. I would trade my car in

WB Wayne if you’re talking about the Mazda3, its a brand new model what did you expect lol

They wanted to differentiate from the R

Would you consider doing a buyout on this at the end of lease?

@@thelitemaster I would suggest to never buy out a lease, period. You're paying for a car for 8 years, you'll never get in the black, aside from a few exceptions to the rule. Sock some money away during your lease, and finance out a brand new one at the end of the term.

It’s comfy. It’s not overly bolstered to where it’s completely stiff, but instead a little plush.

I'm guessing they wanted people to move up to the Sonata. Its polarizing too but at least it doesn't scream "I'M AN ECONOMY CAR!" like the new Elantra.

@@user-gm4kv2my4u The new 2020 Sonata looks really amazing. You could be right.

😍

Honestly I think it's just CRV problem honestly havent heard any owners having it with Civic.

@@J-W.- my 2018 si definitely has the oil dilution issue. Honda even extended the warranty to 6 years because they can't fix it after a software update.

And what about the AC problem, did they finally fix that? 2016-2018 Civics had bad AC systems, so Honda granted an extended warranty but dealers often claim it was normal wear and tear.

2020 has the LED headlights, front garnish and rear garnish change, different wheels and red trim seats/dash, active sound (which I hate), gearing is a little different so the 6th gear is shorter that means if you drive a lot on the highway it’ll be at a higher rpm when cruising so if you drive on the highway a lot it might get annoying compared to the previous years, on top of that the Honda sensing is on this one.

@@ValkenDnB appreciate the breakdown big dawg! I did read about that active sound feature and how it takes away from the natural sound. That's crazy about the gear change, didn't know about that. But pretty convinced w the '20👍

Have a 17. Some components are shared and there is virtually no torque steer.

Depends on practicality really. Entirely different cars. Brz/86 are super fun to drive in windy roads because of the RWD but are slow in straight lines. Si is faster in a straight line and still fun on windy roads thus not as fast on the corners since it’s FWD. Both are fun manual transmission cars. When you compare them both I think the si is a better value money wise.

They should I like the look of the si coupe better then the type r

You're right to feel that way. You should see what the intake valves look like at higher mileage on these GDI engines 😱

@@jayprimo What do you consider to be "high mileage" ?

@@zoezzzarko1117 Referencing mileage in terms of direct injection engines was misinformed on my part, it's more so the type of mileage that'll ruin these engines. Short trips and lots of traffic/ stop and go driving are horrible for these types of engines.

@@jayprimo Great to know. Thanks so much !!! My mazda 2.3L stick shift loved long drives too. She was happiest on the open road for sure