Netflix's latest horror television show Ares from the Netherlands has one of the craziest endings ever so I take a deep dive and explain, recap, and review the final episode. Follow me on twitter: / thinkstoryyt #Ares #Netflix
Rosa took on everyone's guilt (new and old from centuries ago)and unleashed it upon them. Most of that guilt (Bael) was all the horrific things that the secret society was releasing to Bael since its creation. Instead of adding to the guilt and making Ares Stronger by forgetting it. She decided to take on the guilt, unleash it to its members (so they could remember what they had done) and ultimately destroy the foundation that it was built on. The old world has no place in the new Times anymore, so therefore it must be destroyed. The old woman may symbolize the old world and the chains are a representation of her guilt because of the enslavement, murder and greed the organization was founded on. Rosa is the representation for the New world (CHANGE). The society thought that Rosa would rise threw the ranks to become president so they could manipulate and control a new generation. Jacob said that Rosa needed to release Bael, NOT CONTINUE TO ADD TO THE GUILT, Murder and LIES BUT SET IT FREE... This is all just my interpretation. Hopefully season 2 will reveal much more.
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@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 why does her profile picture has anything to do with the subject. Also what if her ass is on the pic, jesus christ let people do what they want, she ain’t harming anyone lmao.
@@LocovsworldNL This Dutch minerva . Bohimain grove. End of voc mentalitie. The Dutch robed 160 of 179 countries the world is wakking up. End of secret society. In the serie they spit black stuff. In real the drink blood. Cremation of Care. This is illuminati. Bilderberg group skull and bones. The oder of deaht. Bush cabal. Yale university. So from amsterdam the netherlands where all this evil shit comes from. Wwg1wga Q ... 2Q2Q no dems (demons) left quick trails quick death. Wwg1wga Q
@MoJean Dutch person here. Things are changing for the better when it comes to 'zwarte piet' but it's still a slow process. Every year around sinterklaas you'll have a lot of people make excuses regarding zwarte piet, and often the way they go about it comes with a subtle hint of racism as well. I do think some people are just simple minded and see it as a mere tradition and a children's holiday, but it makes you wonder if they are ignoring the history on purpose and why they aren't willing to listen to black people who are against it. But guess it's the same for sexism still. As a woman you call it out and then you'll have a man explain to you what sexism means and why you're wrong. Hopefully we'll stray away from the full black paint, red lips, and afro wigs in the upcoming years. People often make the excuse that black pete is black because of the chimney dust, but it doesn't explain all the other racist elements. The alternative that you saw a lot last year is much better imo. People having a couple black lines on their face that represent chimney dust and it's obvious that they aren't supposed to represent black people.
@@OpheliaNL The alternative you see on TV is just the political correct version, as dictated by the Amsterdam elites. They report about it as if it is the only version, just because it is aired on state television, which is not reality. Reality is that the other 99% of the Netherlands are having a great time partying with their friends, the true Zwarte Pieten.
@@OpheliaNL In the Netherlands there's many cultures with traditions that are wrong, such as arranged child marriages, circumsizing women and children and slaughtering animals in the most painful ways (halal), but those people are never asked to change their traditions. The Dutch however have to change their cultures and traditions to make all other cultures feel at home. There's only two countries in the world that celebrate Saint Nicholas: The Netherlands and Belgium. If people think Zwarte Piet is so offensive, why don't they move to other countries that don't celebrate Saint Nicholas. It is bizarre how immigrants think they can dictate the indigenous Dutch how to live in their own country.
The old lady in chains is the old Netherlands. (She was speaking old Dutch) The chains are the guilty things the white men in power did in the name of her-Netherlands. These things kept the country bounded by its guilty ties which kept her alive for so long. That man was the only 1 able to speak to her, Netherlands, because the white men in power were the only ones who controlled the Netherlands and, therefore, knew first hand what was really happening and told everyone else a lie. Teaching them it’s necessary to make lies to get what they want but was really meant to create order by making sure he and the ones he has chosen were protected and ultimately continue to get what they want.
Race/slavery is definitely a bigger part of the show than this video examines. Rosa being biracial and her dad entering Ares over the corpses of guiltless whites... that's HUGE and pretty amazing symbolism.
@@qm8702 WHat about the africans that sold fellow africans into slavery???? WHat about the africans that even today have slaves??? I would like history to be correct and not just be some anti white propaganda.
I think slavery was the original sin of Ares. The imagery through out the show supports this. The old lady probably represents Ares, old, white and chained by guilt. Rosa being biracial is a large part of why she did not give up her pain/guilt, the pain is what was passed down from her ancestors. Her father was able to hug her because he’s black and therefore understands her pain and her experiences. Just my interpretation
@@capitalizingcapitalist1202 So? Yeah, white people did good and bad, same for other countries and cultures, but you can't deny that we in the west fucked over many of those countries and cultures to get where we are now. Just because there is a bad side to history such as wars, slavery, exploitation, etc.. doesn't mean that it somehow was the same for all the nations who participated, we got a lot more out of it than the rest of the world. There are enough movies out there that celebrate what white people have done in history, why not go watch one of those instead? Racism is still very much alive in the Netherlands and it comes out even worse during Sinterklaas when there are debates about ''zwarte piet''. Slavery is part of our history and there are almost no Dutch films or tv-series about the subject. I think the way they went about it in Ares was pretty well done. I do think it was a bit repetitive at times and dragged out certain parts, but it certainly got the message across.
Well I’m from France and we Gauls we were slaves to the Romans. I don’t get some weird slavery flashback and don’t give a fuck. I think it’s racist to say that because someone is black their ancestors must have been slaves and that slavery is in their genes. Just my opinion tho
Everyone is racist to a certain extend if they like to admit it or not. It is a human characteristic. Not a good one but its there. It is our own struggle to do the right thing. Let me explain what I think is the cause of the Sinterklaas struggle. We in the Netherlands are expected to be receptive to all cultures since diversity is "mandatory" so it seems. Thus everything outside of Netherlands we must except as beautiful and a great thing. But our own culture is under attack from the likes of you. And when people see something like Sinterklaas being described as racist they are in shock. And see it as I do as an innocent children's fest. No one every saw Black piet as a dark person but as a man coming down the chimney to clarify in context. So be called a racist like you so easily is the most painfully wrong approach to the problem. Those people are not the racist you claim them to be but feel pushed into a corner and they will lash out. Also I think in context again the term racist should be put on a real issue instead of this easy term. It has lost its meaning. Slavery should be in the canon of the Netherlands it is a fact and should be addressed. But I never feel guilty like many of those woke leftist do since I had no control over it. And then again my father grew up in a very poor time so we have not all benefited from the slavery from hundreds of years ago. So that is a myth in itself. I liked the show nevertheless I think there is still something there but the woke shit has to go as it is a trend mostly hailing in Amsterdam these days.
The old lady is probably century's old. I think this due to the fact that she speaks really old Dutch, me as a Dutchman couldn't even understand her. She has probably seen all the bad things Ares did in the past and that could make her a treath against Ares or that could make her a weapon in one way or another. The reason why she doesn't age is still a big mystery for me.
Just watched this. Brilliant series. A definite must-see and one of the best shows I have seen on netflix for sure. It's captivating, intriguing and not predictable like most shows/films. It touches on a lot of topics. If you watch it without seeing any reviews, it's far better so you can interpret it freely. It's a masterpiece. It reminded me of something Jordan Peele would write and he is a genius.
@@ruthless0ne This Dutch minerva . Bohimain grove. End of voc mentalitie. The Dutch robed 160 of 179 countries the world is wakking up. End of secret society. In the serie they spit black stuff. In real the drink blood. Cremation of Care. This is illuminati. Bilderberg group skull and bones. The oder of deaht. Bush cabal. Yale university. So from amsterdam the netherlands where all this evil shit comes from. Wwg1wga Q ... 2Q2Q no dems (demons) left quick trails quick death. Wwg1wga Q
@felony jones STFU clown 😂 have you seen what he did to twilight zone reboot! He trashed it every episode is about race baiting sjw BS and what not. Even his movies are about black victim mentality BS. Fuck that fool and his BS views.
@@Moloc2230 They're talking about it now, but personally I don't see how they can continue this. I liked it, but with that theme + ending a SE2 would kill the story imo.
I think if there is a season 2, it will be placed in the past. There doesn't seem to be much content left moving forward, (I can't imagine a show about a lady in a catsuit walking around making people feel guilty) but if we went back to the origins of the organization, or further explained the old lady then I can see there being a ton of content left for the show.
I understand and appreciate this video, however I think this video misses the fact that show mainly is a social commentary on the Netherland’s dark past in slavery. The chained entity is a symbol for chained slaves and the fact Rosa is biracial had so much to do with it. Thank you for your thorough analysis though, definitely subscribing
Saqar Khaleefah yeah I agree that was the one part of this analysis that was missed out on. I feel that was the point that ARES was built on these racist foundations and paints a picture of the way society works
If you want extra evil as well as slavery, I wondered whether the "black water" (actually more viscous than that) was supposed to make us think of oil? It's never mentioned explicitly but of course the Dutch Empire in Indonesia was in at the very start of the global oil business with the Royal Dutch Petroleum Company (now Shell) in the 1890s (as of course were the British, French and Americans). Maybe something for season 2?
It is interesting that he did not talk about the vision Jacob had in the catacombs when he touched Rosa. Beal and her chained together and doused in guilt. This is a vital part of the story and ultimately a prophecy of what is to come for Rosa. All throughout the season, it was evident to me that Rosa was not just a curious "Alice" in the netherland of Ares, thus her immediate willingness and rise to power. Going with the flow of events allowed her to become the personification of guilt, though it was clear her character knew much more than what the story tells up to this point.
She has the classical dutch witch look. She gives them the ability to puke their guilt away. She did this when she got caught probably, and only now through the friend or rosa was able to reach rosa which was an excellent canidate to stop the misuse of her power.
What if she was a witch? What if she is the embodiment of shame the Dutch felt at persecuting women of knowledge and spiritual Enlightenment and they kept her around for her abilities instead of outright killing her. Much like how misogynistic the world its, but still keeps women around for our procreational abilities rather than outright murdering us all. Like use them, dont let us be emancipated, but treat them as inferiors too
I'm really amazed that no one mentions the guy, who is one of the most important ares members, who led the girl at the beginning of the series to suicide never committing suicide when faced with Beal (his guilt). Instead he watches as she passes.
it’s really not that confusing though. she was drenched in everyone’s grief and evil, (that’s what beal, the black stuff, is) and basically made everyone kill themselves because they couldn’t handle having the guilt. the slavery and history aspects is basically saying that the beal was first started hundreds of years ago, all the evil that has been happened aka slavery. there are some stuff that is confusing but the overall aspect really isn’t
The only bad ratings about this show are from sour viewers who think the only point of the show is "getting revenge on white people for slavery." The show is so much deeper than that. Essentially, it's about the subtle, historic pathology of the Dutch mentality; to conform, to succeed, to dominate and to perfect, and is a thorough exploration of how this impacts the millennial generation in the present day. The piece perfectly communicates the esoteric aspect of Dutch culture, and is a beautiful piece of magical realism, not simply a gratuitous horror show. It's aesthetic, political, symbolic and excellently paced and acted. If Dutch cinema funded by Netflix is going to be this good all the time, I can't wait for more.
Agreed. Most of the unfavourable dutch reviews i've read barely mention anything good about the film, it's all about how we are constantly forced to be reminded of our history and how white people are somehow under attack. It's interesting to me that a lot of people (mostly men) seem to take this personal, as if fingers are being pointed at them. All it does is remind us of our countries history, what is so wrong about that? During our formative years we're often taught about the Dutch ''golden age'' during history lessons, it's the reason why such a small country became such a powerhouse in the centuries to come. What's often not mentioned during these lessons is the horrible things the Netherlands did to achieve such power, at least it was like that for me. Apartheid is a word that was rooted during the slave trade and it's no coincidence that it stems from the Dutch language.
@@OpheliaNL because people like you always like that's the only aspect of Dutch history. No country ever became the greatest without doing bad things. To keep emphasizing it is annoying. The romans killed 200k wild tribesmen when they got here and to the Romans slavery was normal when you conquered someone else. Yet no one speaks about that. Why? Because it serves no point anymore. Too long ago. The Durch golden age is called Golden because of its worldwide influence. Invention of stock market you name it. Those things changed the future those things are achievements remembered. The only reason we have whiners who want to take all credit or get "revenge" by through victimization or demonization is because it's less long ago. Egypts pyramids built how? Slavery. But when the Egypt chapter is discussed we only talk about the greats and its rich culture. How about we start emphasizing Egypts wrongdoings with regards to slavery? Oh that farao of yours and his people were only rich because of slaves so basically your achievements are the credited to the slaves your people are evil go apologize. How will they take it lol. It's 2020 Rosa Steenwijk is mixed and you need to be reasonable and understand that after 100 apologies we are done with it and the rewiews gladly show it. Had expected it anyway since it's Amsterdam and capital cities are the breeding grounds for leftist self haters.
Since the movie portrays o lot symbolisms and representations, the old woman depicts the Holland itself as a excolonial country that build it empire during the golden age through greed,murder and enslavery. In order to keep the country prosperous the elite has to change to keep Holland wealthy .New leaders, methods and ideas need to emerge. Rosa represents those principles. She is young ambitious and mix race. She has to destroy the old society which represents the elite and the policymakers.
This makes me think about Eyes Wide Shut movie and this is a more detailed look into those Heirs in that secret society...Bael is clearly Baal which is a spirit... That spirit went into Rosa but she had to be reborn and baptized in uncleanness to become that demonic entity.
She was also raped by a dude who turned out to be a higher up in Ares. Having to live with keeping it a secret that someone with so much power is a rapist and likely preys on other young recruits is hard too.
so, I'm dutch. I think the translations didn't do the dialogue justice to me, but then again i don't think there were better translations either. to me the ending was sort of expected. When the group stood in front of the nachtwacht in the rijksmuseum, they all pointed out their great-great-great(and so on) grandfathers. It's well known the men in the painting were rich buisnessmen investing in/active in slavery. As well as the Ares logo being an upside down VOC (the company whose ships that roamed the world for spices and participated in slaveryb) logo. It was very clear to me. I did grow up learning about our history of course, so the guess was only natural. I think Beal was more than just slavery related. They clearly state it's older than amsterdam, maybe older than the land. The dutch trade in Slavery came after most cities were settled. I think slavery was just its most recent form, a sort of collective Big Sin, and Rosa becoming the next, possibly a form that symbolizes how forgotton and put away the slavery trade has become. They call Beal the "doof-pot" after all, literally a place you dump your troubles and never hear from again.
If you want to look into the history of Ares you could just look at the history of Holland from the Golden Age. Ares resembles an organisation equal to the VOC. Try to put the logo of Ares upsidedown for example.
This Dutch minerva . Bohimain grove. End of voc mentalitie. The Dutch robed 160 of 179 countries the world is wakking up. End of secret society. In the serie they spit black stuff. In real the drink blood. Cremation of Care. This is illuminati. Bilderberg group skull and bones. The oder of deaht. Bush cabal. Yale university. So from amsterdam the netherlands where all this evil shit comes from. Wwg1wga Q ... 2Q2Q no dems (demons) left quick trails quick death. Wwg1wga Q
@@hr9106 The voc was the first multinational in the world. The benches on the Herengracht ran the banks in New York .. Waal straat. Wall street . Breukelen brooklin. Amsterdam aveneu. new Amsterdam. The voc started the slave trade. check the series ares on netflix. its all about the Voc .. minerva is going down . Wwg1wga Q
I'm just glad to see something different. And Netflix has been PUMPIN OUT SERIES AFTER SERIES. Some are good, others are ehhh, then u got the ones that shine. Also good to SEE NEW FACES. That's the BESThing Netflix has been Doin. Bring fresh talent.
This show was so fucking disturbing, I love it! Don’t know if we need a season 2; it felt wrapped up. Hopefully we see more Dutch original series! I love the Netherlands!
I agree, I don't see how a SE2 isn't just gonna be a cash grab, but props to them because SE1 is great. The theme was kind of a let down but I get it, and the way they did it was subtle so I can't complain.
You wish they included more examples of what Ares did wrong in the past like slavery wasn’t enough? Lol. Stealing, selling, torturing humans to the point that effects on the same ppl are being felt 500 years later isn’t enough of an example of their treachery all in the name of power? It’s no coincidence that Rosa is a descendent of both Ares and the race it sold for prosperity. I appreciate your insight and enjoyed the series although horror isn’t usually my thing. I kept wondering where the plot was going... kept looking at Dante’s Inferno wondering if there was a tie-in between the levels of hell and what Ares expected of those new recruits. I’m wondering if something was lost in my lack of knowledge about Dutch culture and the underlying themes.
2nd Round idk if this is what the makers of this show intended, but what I got after seeing the ending of the show was low key commentary on attitudes toward the past slave trade and racism in the Netherlands and other countries in Europe. Now I am not saying all European citizens are like this- but countries like the Netherlands, England, Portugal, France, Spain etc. don’t like to talk about the huge roles they played in the slave trade that brought them so much wealth and power. People in power in countries like those act almost like racism doesn’t exist in their countries and like they never participated in the slave trade. Like they have been able to just discard the guilt and pretend they didn’t get so much of their wealth and power by kidnapping, enslaving, and murdering people all over west Africa. To me, ‘beal’ and those entities were spiritual embodiments of the evil, pain, guilt, anger, etc a normal person SHOULD have participating in something so horrible. Maybe even a spiritual embodiment of all the victims of slavery that the world decided to ignore and forget about as if they didn’t matter or exist. I’m guessing Rosa was perhaps a descendent of one of those slaves and she finally freed the entities so ARES (founders of the Dutch East India Trading company) could finally meet face the ugly truth of their sins. The hug from her father at the end was so powerful to me. Like he knew what they were too.
2nd Round yes it’s the knowledge of the free masons and the ancient Egyptian mystery schools... look up ‘Arthur Cristian loveforlife’ ... also you should look into metaphysics and Islamic scholars, as well as witchcraft and MKULTRA... its all conncected... the black water being used is OIL
Almost sounds inspired by the trilogy of Dario Argento of the Three witch mothers. There the witches are a power source of a coven which dominates with that world affairs
I feel like a dutch person should explain this tho, when i watched the ending it was a bit obvious and very understandable to be fair... So many references and hints showing where this series was going
The hints were more obvious as it got closer to the end, like the last 2 episodes really, that's where I think they fumbled the ball because it just slapped it in your face rather than piecing it together.
@thephilosopher7173 Nah, it starts pretty fast. With the museum, them being old-old money. Some of the members being actively racist. The museum and them telling "oh my ancestors are in this painting from the same period as the VOC". The Swan too, with people having to die for the country. "Do you know what made this country so wealthy/powerful?" is dropped early and regularly. Maybe it seems rushed for some, but the image of the chained person immediately reminded a lot of people of slaves on boats. So it is there, in the back of our minds. The collars everyone wears up high. The colors black and blue. The pearls even. Ocean, 1600's, black, chains, wealth. Everything is there on day one. Even her dad being Surinam is no secret.
Bael is a very ancient and powerful African spirit discovered and captured at the beginning of the transatlantic slave trade, 500 years ago. Dutch/Western wealth and power started with slavery, its original sin. Slavery must be here understood as spiritual warfare. Capturing African bodies was essentially about capturing African spiritual life force. Bael represents the ancestral African spiritual force and old lady, the force of the West. What is revealed is that the western oligarchy needs Africans in position of physical and spiritual servitude like the nuclear bomb needs uranium to function. I.E the western capitalist project was and is powered by the spiritual life force of the African diaspora kept in bondage across the world through evil and sinister means. Both Bael and the old white can be seen as egregores (spirit forces). A much lower spiritual entity, the old lady feeds off Bael and uses its life force to power the Dutch/Western paradigm, on a spiritual level. All its members are the rulers of the system. Bael is kept against its will. A secret society was established to control it. They feed it with dark energy matter created from blood sacrifices. You understand that there are level to the cult and not all is revealed, even to the members. Only the presidents know the true meaning of the secrets hidden within the cult. When Bael sees the girl it recognises her because of her African bloodline. It initially tries to speak to her but she is afraid and can not understand. The suicide by guilt is a symbol of the veil of illusion falling off. The members can now see their crime for what it was. Overwhelmed by the challenge of their own consciousness, they offer themselves as sacrifice. In many ways, one can argue that they were all manipulated by the entity of the Old white lady. At the end, the imbalance is repaired and evil exposed.
It was interesting. But don"t forget, slavery is not a specifical thing of Africans and Europeans, and their spirits. Slavery is a very ancient thing...it was a part of life of humankind nearly in every age. Nowadays too. Enslavement of African people by Europeans is just a good choice of explanation the eternal sin of opression and cruelty, wich are sins of mankind general. Because the serie is European, they choose this example. But this is not about simple African slavery. This is more about, how leaders can lost their humanity, start make cruel decisions to maintain power. Forefathers of Ares-members made a choice to enslavement innocent people from Africa in order to being wealthy. Their offspring were innocent in this crime, but the fathers doctrinated them being unethical, and forced them make their own bad choices and commit their own crimes in order to become a member of elites. For example, commiting a murder. Carmen didn"t murder a baby, she keeped her purity. Rosa too, because she killed her friend because he requested it, and not with bad intention. The story's moral teaching is not specifically about African slavery and so-called "white guilt" but about sin of opression, sacrificing others and your own soul, ethical values on altar of power and wealth. This is why these people committed suicides, when their guilt returned to them. They intentionally removed their ability to feel guilt via horrible crimes in order to become enough unethical to access power, and they become too horrified, when their guilt restored, and they faced their crimes and shames.
You nailed it! Its a shame that mistakes can be very expensive, but the reality is, you can cash in bigger with some of the risks you take. Netflix is getting the ball rolling though.
I agree, there should have been clips beyond slave trade, though I'm sure the black goop is supposed to have connection to oil (Royal Dutch Shell, largest oil company)
the dutch: explaining slavery to itselves through slaves - catholic priests, take notice; alterboys, take cover... still waiting on the zombie apokolypse
I think people are laying into the slavery waaaaay to heavily in this show. Its used as an example of the idea Ares facilitates but it isnt a message of slavery bad white people bad
What’s Soooo crazy is celebrities, judges, lawyers, mega super stars are still doing this to get rich and famous and to stay rich and famous. Is it really worth your soul?
17 seconds in and I'm reminded why I love this channel, these intros are probably the best form of promo I've seen in a while. Not too much info, just enough to make me pause and binge the series lol
2 things: The Netherlands was never an empire since that would require an emperor. Also something you wouldn’t have noticed unless you speak dutch. The old lady actually spoke in old dutch signifying her age
Tristan Isaac I’m american but I watched it in dutch. The dub actors voices usually aren’t that great on netflix. But this time i think the original actors did it for the English version but they kept the old dutch from the old women the same.
Not to be nitpicking, but was it really Old Dutch? That language hasn't been spoken since the 12th century. We barely even know what it must've sounded like. Seems much more likely that they were speaking Middle Dutch. I know the Netflix subtitles said Old Dutch, but Netflix' subtitles are often full of mistakes. I know it isn't a huge detail, but it's been bothering me so much that everyone is saying Old Dutch, while that would be 3 centuries off.
Just happened to binge watch this as I’ve turned into a slug on my couch from catching the flu. The line between my fever and what I was actually watching is way too blurred but tbh this was so worth the experience.
It's reminded me that in the past, Netherlands were occupying my country and made my people work unpaid against their will for hundreds of years. It's a past but I don't know, I just feel so bad to the people that have to went through it, to be honest it's quite a blessing that I was born in the age where war and slavery was something in the past.
Has anyone even realised that Ares is the Greek good of war? Also that Bale is one of the seven Princes of hell in Christian demonology. Now add that to the story line and what do you get? Masters/lords of War. The war is on their guilt and the become the Lords or masters of their own guilt
Loved this show. I think it was inspired by Star Trek TNG.. the episode called Skin of Evil. Armus.. an entity formed from the released and discarded negative emotions from a race a beings. It formed into a black liquid.
Ok! After watching this I was able to put 2 and 2 together. I like how the show leaves things to the imagination because it definitely puts emphasis on the things that some people don’t want to talk about...SLAVERY, spirituality, the past, & Bloodlines... mostly SLAVERY. A lot of emphasis on the water and if you refer to the end there were pictures on the wall that seem to signify the Atlantic slave trade in the 1600s. During this time, boats and cargos were set on fire as a sport to intentionally kill slaves. Then you had some that were in battle with rivals and this resulted to a lot of slave ship wreckages, hence the pictures on the wall that tell that story. A lot of slaves either jumped off the ships or died at sea and this could where the BLACK water comes in at. The black water refers the power of African American ancestors as they could never be killed and are still leading and guiding what we know to be the AFRICAN AMERICAN RACE. “Ares” continued to utilize the black water to remain in power. They used the blacks as slaves physically and spiritually as slaves because they envied their power. TODAY AND IN HISTORY! Do your research on theSlave trade. Africans were known as being very royal and living luxury lives. They knew how to grow crops, they were self sufficient, had diamonds, gold, and were great teachers. During the Slave Trade there was suppose to be an equal agreement between whites and blacks, but just like we heard in the series, the whites told the Africans what they wanted to hear to get what they wanted and to remain in power and AFRICANS were mistreated for being DIFFERENT in the US. Africans were going to America to help teach white people and work with them. This is the same thing that happened during Thanksgiving with the Indigenous Indian people, they were SLAUGHTERED by the whites. This resulted to Africans being slaves in America and learning how to adapt, which is where the Western European term African AMERICAN came about. Now mind you, some Africans now known as AFRICAN AMERICANS were also spiritual beings when they were in their ORIGINAL home before getting on that slave ship. not ALL AFRICAN AMERICANS originated in Africa, some were already here. Getting back to the series, to me this shows how some people have thrived and envy the black culture, but yet tries to destroy it. When Rosa went into the black water it was like she immersed in it and connected with her ancestors who gave her power to stand up to the people that tried to build their business off the ancestors backs and tried to break them down. This series also talks about BLOODLINES, which is why I am referring to Ancestors. The only thing that the ancestors did for the people that had long bloodlines in Ares was put them in a position of power. Rosa’s ancestors gave her internal and external power to shut down any and all evil. Moral of the story BLACK PEOPLE POWERFUL and their power comes from their ancestors. No matter how many black people they try to kill, its like the bloodline of Black people is so powerful that when one gets innocently killed their ancestors make them more powerful internally and external. I’m Caucasian and my biggest fear is blacks coming together for revenge against the whites. The elites in modern society are also killing black royal such as Whitney, Nipsey, and Prince. They doing what’s needed to remain in power. However, there will soon be a rise with the African American community for the better and I hope I am here to see it. I also agree with the guilt themes.
@@christinaparnell5853 Its very easy to follow, the key is literally in the first part of the first episode. It practically summarized the entire season. The ending was thrown in your face so its hard to be confused, but I personally didn't like how they did that.
This series was very interesting and thought provoking. I sincerely hope they continue the series. From the look of some of the comments it’s clear that people are opinionated about racism. It’s interesting to me that people cringe at placed or perceived guilt of how they may have benefited from power or privilege (which. Ones in many forms), but can devote that much emotion or energy into empathy for those who have suffered the wrath’s of tyranny and the legacy which resulted in that tyranny. I can only say, that until we as a people accept the past, learn from it, and embrace the fact that both sides need to heal from their respective legacies...we in the whole world...not just your corner of it, will be the worse for it. All sides can acknowledge the effects that history holds on us as a collective and individually. It is then and only then that we can begin to tear down our walls, shed our fears, and be free to live amongst, help, and enjoy each other. Together we human beings are stronger than we are alone. Forget labels like left, right, woke, tone deaf, etc. if we stick to truths peppered in sensitivity for everyone...we can get to a better place. The series put the topic out there. We can chose positive discourse, because the alternative only promotes chaos, and who does that benefit?
So tell me? No, it is not Slavery of 1800. Because Slavery was a tole to conquer land and bring there religion. To also have many secret temples around the world. To bring Black people to Religion or to a Secret Society or both. Beal/Baal is killing your first born child. Where is the connection with Sugar slavery? Did Black African people kill tgere first born child or did they kill every White first born child? Because that didn't happened only in the Secret Society.
Old white woman (old but never ageing, and therefore in eternal bondage without rest/peace, as in the quote on what happens to the wicked, mentioned in the bible). Young (fertile and desirable as depicted from the fist episode of the series) Biracial woman (not 100% black, who still holds DNA from the same "society", through her mother, but is what seems to be the key to much-needed rest/peace ?, through the merging of the mother's DNA with that of the father, and also what is pending for the future). The others depicted in the series are players in the game of life (references for this is everywhere classic literature), pieces on a chess board (Illuminati symbolism reference). Of course, the most powerful players are the two queens. White and Black. Except, we are still terrified of being defeated and of anything other. If it should be a black queen, it should be a black queen. Hence the final image / consequence of the final act (and all the meanings as she emerges from the bottomless pit of guilt, as provided in the video and the comments below). Her father still loves her, like all good fathers on earth and in heaven do. One more thing: Ares is the Greek God of War. There were another 11 main deities. You will reap what you sow.
I really like the series and it really goes beyond slavery (Bael is older than Amsterdam after all) represents all the bad things that people put away in the name of the “greater good” but which slowly also chains you to an immoral way of life as a society. I guess Rose mutated because her election didn’t symbolize real change, but a sort of washing out for the organization and this might be the authors way of saying that we need to embrace all that guilt and really change society, instead of doing small cosmetic changes (of course this wasn’t really explained in the series, so it’s a conjecture)
You know what Bael is? Baal? Child killing. Secret society have nothing with 1800 slavery. It was a tole to bring the best and the most evil Black People in there Secret Society.
She was bale. That's why Jacob let her kill him because when he touched her he saw they were tethered together. Jacob still let bale free just not how he originally planned on it.
Baal is the enslaved spirit of the slaves that were still enslaved after all these years. Energy that turned into chaos, The energy they used to become successful. The old woman chained up was possibly the one person who opposed the slave trade and therefore becoming the vessel for this energy. Baal has consciousness and could choose who to exist in or not. Baal destroyed those who felt the least guilty about their actions. Rose was the most likely chosen one because of her biracial heritage. The blood of her ancestors ran through her blood therefore she could set them ( the enslaved spirits that turned wrathful, the chaos, Baal) free.
That is most likely not the case, i think in the last episode when they stand in front of the black pool somebody says that it is older than amsterdam itself
I think the old lady is actually baal and they hold the demon captive and exploit some of its power, which is the black stuff. There has to be some correlation between the chain around the old woman and the one we see the black entity using. Like some sort of connection between Rosa and the old woman (baal) that the demon sees as an opportunity to be released.
I’m Dutch and I did binge it in one night. so Much symbolism in this series. Not proud of the Dutch history ( but also claimed in the series, )one needs to evolve over time to keep ahead). Colonialism viewed through modern times eyes is not a good thing . Overthrowing complete societies under the flag of Christianity undoubtedly wrong . But in colonial days if you didn’t try to expand , there was no room for growth and even thread of existence occurred. Back to the show. The person in chains to me is a personification of the shame and guilt we all feel inside and which chains us and holds us. By literally releasing it we can overcome it , but it can never be completely erased. When the cast is haunted by it, they feel scared but are never really harmed by it, only by themselves ( stabbing was done by Hester herself , and suicides ) . So that makes me feel more and more that the thread comes from within, our past memories , shame and guilt. For the old lady , my theory is a bit different then what I read so far : I think it is a personifaction of the history of Holland and that the goal of Ares is partly to keep it alive( keeping the Old customs/ etiquette a live, upkeeping the purity). But also that it is held in Chains because Ares knows what is capabele of doing when running loose( slavery, VOC, modern times shell). We see a scène where Maurits is lovingly reaching out to the hand , but is behind glass, so locked up but stil showing his love for iT. A not flawless series , with Some weird scenes , what makes You think of relations between countries, colors an also about oud OWN motivations to make goals come true and how far we are willing to give ourself and our heritage up for reaching the top.
marc van gils the old Lady in chains is Holland. The chains are the things the white men in power did in the name of her-Holland. These things kept the country bounded by its guilty ties which has also kept her alive so long. That man was the only 1 able to speak to it because he is the one who knows first hand what was really happening and told everyone else a lie and taught them it’s necessary to make lies to get what they want but is really to create order by making sure he and the ones he has chosen continue to get why they want instead.
What I take from this series is the braveness of a fellow Dutch to show the golden age as not only the gold and the wealth but for most the shame and the guilt. And the pain we caused others, and our own memories. And that we shall never forget or ignore , like some other countries who tend to deny the rights of other countries or its inhabitants.
No need to be proud or ashamed of the past as 99% of the people back then were peasants or labor men who were actually heavily exploited themselves by the 1% in charge...
My fiance and I just watched the last two episodes last night. He was kind of like, what is going on, and I was like...they are emptying their sin and shame or maybe they are dumping their conscience in there...so they can do all the evil things they feel they need to do for power and control with out having to feel any regret or shame......I am eager to see if there is a second season. I feel like as she sat down in the President's chair, it was JUST starting to really get intriguing. I want to see the fallout from this event unfold.
I really don't get what is good about this show. I was bored during all the season but stayed just to see what's gonna be the big reveal at the end, and oh man... Long story short, this whole season could have been a 1 hour long "movie". (Sorry for my bad english).
The old woman in chains is represented as Old Netherlands(as she speaks Old Dutch) and if you turn the Ares logo upside down it’s the VOC which is the Dutch East India Company, which was founded in early 17th century and specialized in spice trading among other things if I remembered correctly
I'm Dutch and I really liked this series. Sometimes stories and backstories arent literal or served to you on a silver platter. Bothers me how some people wanna say they dont get it while not even giving it a thought. The ending is sort of similar to the ending of the movie annihilation. Using your brain isnt that hard.
I haven't watched the show, but if that goo makes up feel so guilty that you off yourself, what happens to people who feel no guilt. I don't mean like her father but true psychopaths. They probably cover it in the show, but now I'm just curious about them.
If you want to really understand what is all about, please start to search about “Johan de Witt” or “The Threatened Swan” in google.. just as when they try to explain to Rosa...
Ironically, this show makes it seem like the Dutch actually felt guilty about the things they did and so hand to remove their guilt/humanity to live with themselves when in reality they didn't give a shit lol.
There is so much wrong with this serie, on so many levels. The make almost no attempt to introduce the characters properly. Almost everyone stays a one dimensional character , and not very likeable either . Her (really small) back story is: she is kept down in life. She is a medical student for God sake, you are really lucky, when you get voted in for this study, your chances in life go up 110%. She also will change attitude within moment's. Good daughter, becomes really easy a really bad daughter, who doesn't even care that her mother is at the hospital, because of a suicide attempt. Also : what's her motivation to like Ares that much? (till the level, that she even doesn't care about her mum anymore ) She is all in, but we never get the info why. And her friend.. Suddenly he is in her life (again?) was he her boyfriend? A lifetime friend? No answers for that either, I don't get their 'friendship at all, but it's import for the script. In most good shows, you get foreshadowing and Bit by bit you get some information about what's going on (sometimes even sooner than the protagonist, because this creates suspension, whe now know something the protagonist doesn't know, so we look different at the situations. Nothing of this all in Ares. You just follow along, and almost no suspension is build. But you still get lines like " you still don't understand what's going on he?" no, of course not, you give us nothing to play with! The also kill the suspension within minutes. The show the Ares members dressed in spooky outfits, much like the scene from Eyes wide shut. It's feels like a really interesting part. But when Jacob' steped out of line and disappeared during the initiation, all suspense is gone. Mask go off and the litterly give him a motivational speach, when the find him in the kitchen. How can these people ever be creapy again, for the audience? And when someone dies, even explained as being run over by a truck, there is never any police in sight, and relatives just accept a crap story and move on with their lives. At a certain moment, she starts to vomit a dark substance, out of the blue, and she is totally fine with it. No questions asked, walk on.. nothing to see here, people. And finally: the setup and payoff department. You have so many scenes where something happens, and you think "well, this could be interesting" but it never pays off, you just get a new scene, and this scene has absolutely nothing to do with the set up before. I know this show is written by a few writers. My guess is, the all came up with ideas, and litterly no one was prepared to sacrifice the thing he/she came up with... So, the just wrote everything in the script, because.. He, why not!
