Arrma Granite BLX vs Team Associated Rival MT10 

I love your channel. I always find myself either rewatching videos, or just diving into your backlog of older videos. Keep killing it!

idk how this amazing channel only has 10k subs

Awesome rc car run. Keep up the good work fella. Respect! 👍

😯 wow! That’s some monster durability testing for sure- impressive all the way around. Thanks for the great videos!

I absolutely love my granite 3s. I have the green one. And from all the reviews I’ve seen of the MT10, it’s damn near indestructible. My local hobbytown just never seems to have them in stock. But I will definitely get one eventually 😎

I like that your kids are included in your videos, they are cute funny little weirdos!

Another great video! I just picked up the arrma granite 4x4 off craiglist for $100.00 practically brand new very happy I made the purchase

Love your content!! I have bought cars based off of your information. Thanks!

Thanks so much for that comparision. Thinking of replacing my dbx10 with one of those two, since the dbx feels like he breaks easy and has something everytime i take him out.

Killer trucks! I'm going to have to get one of the MT10s

Awesome video again. I have a rival mt10 and an Arrma Big Rock. Really similar to the Granite but a longer chassis. For me the big rock is a the favorite. Both are awesome for sure. I did have the same red motor mount bend on the Big Rock. Both M2C and Hot Racing make upgraded ones that are stronger aluminum and have an extra thick aluminum piece added to totally prevent any possibility of bending.

Dude, that was one hell of a beat down like no other! Two great trucks indeed. Would of loved to see the other mt-10 in the mix, but I get it. That’s a lot of content. I still love my Team A MT-10 but am not opposed to trying the Arrma. I don’t own even one yet. Will have to change that soon! 😝 As always super awesome and interesting video dude. No one beats them and fixes them like you brother!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🍻😎

Awesome video. I've got an sc10pro4 I converted to an mt10 after watching your videos on it...only difference is the wheelbase is 1" longer. But after watching your videos on the granite, I'm thinking about adding one to my collection 😂.

Wow man I really enjoy this video. You're getting good at editing and putting in a little effects and fun surprises. Keep up the good work in that department!! I have had four granites. that's my vote!

Great video, entertaining as always, now with added explosions, even! I'm not just about to buy any of these, but if I were, this would be a good video to watch! Was interesting with that plastic weld thing, I didn't expect it to hold... Suspension arms are usually easy to replace (unless it's Kyosho and nowhere on stock), bbut seems like a good part to attempt a repair on...

Well made and entertaining comparison. Subscribed 🙂

We have a Granite 4×4 converted to a brushless set-up, 3900kv motor- everything updated. It's been great . Haven't bent our Blx motor mount yet.. but i gotta say i really like the Mt 10 also. It drives a little more stable and you could always make it faster.. Good review and nice jumps. 🤘

Im about to order a Rival. Iv owned alot of AE cars and never been disappointed. Its meant for my 7yr old to learn on.

WOW, that was really fun to watch. Been into RC flying for quite a while and have a couple of crawlers as well that I enjoy. I just ordered the MT10 V2 after watching your vid. Itll be my first basher and Im deff looking for TOUGH! My driving at this point I know sucks and I have a feeling my flips are gonna be ugly to start out with. Really enjoyed and picked up on your driving skills. Again a really fun and informative watch. Thank for putting it out there.

I have the mt10 v2 and I absolutely love it! I also would like to get a granite in the near future. From what I've seen out of these two trucks you really can't go wrong with either one. On my mt10 I actually put in a blx 100 and now I'm running 2.8 proline badlands and had it out yesterday and pulled off a few double backflips. And just from what I've seen with the motor mount bending from what I've seen from you and others I came up with a solution I hope I just folded some thinner cardboard and jammed it beneath the motor to hopefully help with those big impacts. Thanks for the comparison!

I cant belive how easy the motor mount bends on the 3s Arrma's. I think both cars are great for doing front flips. You may want to trim some branches on that tree. I have both buggies and honestly they are both super tough and fun to drive. Great job as always. 👍

Thx 4 sharing ~your channel rocks …just ordered the Mt10( brushed) thru Amain $255 w discount coupon this month {march 2024}…NO ~you cannot borrow my lawnmower

I really enjoyed this video, It's an excellent comparison and gives the viewer a lot to consider and think about. One thing that might influence people is the current sale at Tower Hobbies. The Granite is $50 off.

I have a Vorteks that I converted into a granite with Big Rock arms (for the wider stance) and I love it.

Awesome comparison! Those 2 can really take a beating! I don't see going wrong getting either of those! I agree the Redcat is there too. Next maybe get a Hoss and a Losi of that demeaner and do a 5 way compare of them all :-) "sorry don't want to spend your $$ for you) You did say a Hoss may be fun and they are 😉 Just plain one awesome video Evan!!!

Great video, Evan. Loads of useful info in there, for anyone considering either. I reckon Ive spent a bit more on our Mt10 than our Big Rock but much of that comes down to a replacement motor as I bought it 2nd hand. For anyone interested, the blx system from a breakers like Jennys or a hobbywing will deliver the shortfall in power between the two. We have a Max10SCT in our MT10 with a 3200kv hobbywing g2 motor...... and its the exact equal of our BR with its stock blx electronics. 15t Arrma pinion on the MT10 and 17t on the BR. Worth also considering the new Hobbywing BL120 esc as a terrific value upgrade over stock on the MT10. Weve bent the motor mounts in both cars and while there are heaps of aftermarket upgrades for the 3S arrmas from the likes of m2c, CRCU and Oktays, no one (yet) makes one for the Mt10. We had the same problem on the Mt10 that Evan identifies - due to the design of the Mt10s mount, its easy for the screw to come undone (loctite it!) and the mesh to slip and when that happens you can wreck the spur gear. Weve also broken the MT10s wheelie bar, rear driveshafts and front A-arms. Both Mt10 and Big Rock now have RPMs and we've had no problems since. I think the Mt10 suspension is significantly plusher and a common (but expensive) upgrade for the 3S Arrmas are the 6S shocks. Once fitted, the Arrmas handle brilliantly, albeit without the extra benefit of the centre diff. Talking of which, Arrma 3S diffs seem noticeably less durable than Team Associated ones, when fed a pure 3S diet. A (relatively) inexpensive upgrade to the Arrma diffs is to fit an aluminium yoke from RCAWD or Hot Racing and that extends their life significantly. All metal diffs are also available from Jennys and others as they come standard on the Arrma 4S v2 range and are a direct fit. Unless people want to replicate the back2back tests done in this video I actually wouldnt reccomend owners of one to buy the other but to get something similarly sized but more different. If youve got an MT10, Id reccomend a Big Rock, typhon or Senton instead of a Granite. At least you'll get a different driving experience. If you already have a Granite, get some worthwhile upgrades for it instead of an MT10. Just my opinion, of course but having an MT10 and a Big Rock I like them both very much. Very interesting to see you using an HV Lipo. These are discussed surprising rarely and I think its a common preconception that you have to have an ESC that is specifically HV compatible.

Sweet. I like the small ramp. Do you have any vids on how you built them?

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="560">9:20</a> put some pad under the motor end for support (3M Bumpon 3,5mm height), use arrma slipper sleeve for extra durability on the slipper clutch (stock on arrma 4s v2). Send it ! Nice Flipps. 25mm Yeah Racing Fan is plug and play for the ESC or Rocket 25mm fan if you change the connector or use a 30mm Fan Adapter 3d printed. On the Motor its an easy swap 30mm rocket.

To be honest I would get the granite, m2c and ccru makes aftermarket stronger parts for the granite. But I like both of these rigs. Great comparison Derb.

Awesome. Nice jumps! Total bashing.

Now that’s funny 😆 I’ve been wondering what that conglomeration of ductwork is 🤣🤣

Excellent video bud

Awesome video. What speedometer you using? Thanks

Great vid thought about getting rival which i know is good but seems a little slow.Might have to be a granite 👍

I’ve spent a lot of time bashing at skate parks throwing RC’s 40 and 50 feet in the air. FDR skate park in Philly is one of those spots. Even though the team associate/Helion seems to have a better reputation for bashing and durability than the Granite I can tell you once you’ve reinforce the shock towers of the Granite with an epoxy it will be tougher than the team associated Rival. Especially if it’s warm out! The rival chassis will break at the front bulkhead I’ve never broke the Granite Chassis. Where I would break the granite in the past was the shock tower. A buddy of mine reinforced them with an epoxy and it never happened again. You may break a A arm with a really bad landing but that’s rarely gonna happen when it’s above 70° out in the summer. If you do break a A arm you can replace them with RPM. The only issue with the Rival is that from bulkhead but it’s a cheap replacement and way easier than replacing the whole chassis. I’ve heard from everybody in the associate at a arms are not as tough as the original Helion A arms, but again A arms are cheap. And dude, you should watch the Rich Duperbash video from like 2019/20 when he goes into his Granite upgrades. I think he was one of the first people that widened the Granite. Also, I not only have the 3s BLX pro line shocks but I also have the hot racing shock bodies for the 3s line. There’s also the cheap metal ones everyone uses from Amazon. As well as Jenny RC if you wanna order some cheap 6s Typhon shocks. I think you should consider a shock upgrade since I know you’re keeping the granite in your fleet and it’s such an awesome rig. I have yet to see the new 4s BLX line but I know their shocks are really awesome and I wonder how they would do on the 3S line as well. The three shocks are awesome especially when they don’t leak but when you’re going really big it is nice to have a little bit more of an upgrade.

I new to the RC and those 2 cars i been lookin at. I think im goin for the arrma .. new to your channel as well big big help ! Thank u sir i appreciate your hard work keep it up

Your video helped me make up my mind and i got the mt10 v2. I love love love this truck i did eject the stock esc for a hobbywing 120amp esc. Which just completes this truck and I paired it to my flysky gt3c controller, which just a fantastic controller for the price and features.

I am with you, I have both the same trucks and both are my favorite. Both trucks are a beast, recently replaced my diffs on the Granite to metal diffs. The MT-10 with that 3300kv Reedy Motor has WAY MORE POTENTIAL, first thing I did was swapped on the ESC to a BLX 100, battery straps and added a motor fan. The MT-10 is just as fast as the Granite now. The MT-10 ESC doesn't do the car's justice at all, definitely deserves a better ESC. Granite needs better fans, I'm going to swap to WTF fans and that will help cool things down. With upgrades on both trucks, they are tanks, great video I definitely enjoyed it 👍🏻

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="93">1:33</a> 😂. Man I’ve been using my granite for around 4 months now and I’m so happy. Thanks for doing this review!!! I know one day I’ll also have the MT10 (personally I like it a little better and it has a center diff), but I went with the ARRMA one because I live in a place where hobby shops are super super rare to find, actually I went to USA to buy the RC, so Amazon is my hobby shop lol, and comparing the amount of parts that can be shipped to each car the granite won, decisive factor for me. Anyway thanks for sharing this amazing review, I’ll update you once I have my rival in some months :D

Love your videos. New to the RC world and I bought the Senton and the Granite to start. The Senton is insane and I love it but the Granite I cant get to jump the way you do, do you keep the gas on when jumping to get it to flip like that? Is there something you do different? Cant get mine to flip around it just jumps. Thanks

I'm curious which one would preform better on grass. I would think the Arma granite because of the extra power, weight and larger wheels. I'm considering get one but would be doing a lot of grass riding and I'm curious of your thoughts

Mt10 under the hood with the green granite body!

The plastic welding works best with shredded Brillo pad (not with the soap on , lol ) . The steel pieces work but the Brillo fibers work so much better . Both can be done at the same time too . How cool would it be to see arms and pieces with infused steel fibers. Steel rods would be too stiff and bendy . Maybe spring steel ? Whomever comes out with something like this will be ground breaking and everyone will want it imo .

Thanks for comparing them! I think I'd go with the mt10 because the handling sounds great and I wouldn't be bashing too hard.

Is that tree the mt10 hit still standing? 🤣 I own both of these- the Granite is a tank/beast ( Teast? ) I have yet to run my mt10, nothing broken on the Granite, and it's seen some abuse! Great video and comparison of the two‼️👍👍🦾🦾

They’re both pretty tough, jumping & landing on concrete time after time. Is the big test 👍🏻

Good review. I definitely agree with you. I'm a huge fan of both and have bashed the tar out of both and they take it!

The simple fact, that you land your RC's on cement/pavement, and these two held up as long as they did, well, they BOTH get props. You're brutal with your testing, and since they both held up, they both get recommendations. That being said, I have put my Granite through, a lot of shit (but never landed on cement/road top), and have hardly broken anything, other than body mounts, or the body shell. The Granite is, for SURE, a giver and a taker. It will take, nearly, whatever you give it. I know, that the Rival takes an absolute beating, as well, but I've never driven one and I've seen that bastard tortured (Kevin Talbot) and tested. Both, excellent choices for bashing and, as always, this was a great video. Thanks for sharing.

I want the granite but here the mt10 is better for skate parks which is what I want it for. Your video has me reconsidering the granite over the mt10

I’m about to get the granite it’s the only 3s in that series that I’ve never owned and it a tank I can’t wait

Good driving skills. Little trucks take a whooping for sure. Been in the hobby since the hornet 🐝 frog 🐸 days. I like the smaller 1/10 size trucks because of the plastic spur gears. They’re not as loud ripping them in front of the house.

I have the mt10 and find it good.

I see your body reinforcement method, which works well. I switched to using Clear Flex-Seal to reinforce my bodies. It takes about 3-4 light coats, but ends up a lot lighter. IF the body cracks, you probably won't notice because the Flex-Seal holds it together. It does make the body MUCH stiffer, I just like the ease of application. Give it a try and let me know what YOU think.

On your plastic weld method next time try using the paper clip method where you melt it into the piece giving that little extra strength,.

Granite has better electronics, speed and durability. Mt10 has better looks and handeling. But right now The Granite is selling for $260 so its the winner hands down and i may have to bite. Awesome vid as always.

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="742">12:22</a> I bet that wheelie bin broke a diff and an arm 🤣

My MT10 has outlasted my Big Rock (RIP) , Vorteks (RIP), Typhon 3s and Senton (RIP). I've put the MT10 through hell and I've broken stuff but no way as often as the Arrmas. I wish the Arrmas had the longevity of the MT10 because they are fun as to drive. But they break and get worn out too quickly. My MT10 is still running and getting thrashed and loving it.

Great video and information as always. Is the MT10 still king of the durable 1/10th bashers or was it dethroned by the Granite? 😮

MT just looks better. V1s are getting harder to find reasonably priced.

Hey there, I cant get my hands on a Granite here in Germany. Its sold out everywhere 😢 Do you have any experience with the Arrma Big Rock 3S or how does it compare to the MT10? Would love to hear your opinion. Btw...keep up the good work! Always fun to watch your stuff!

Hey but wht about that Redcat you had? (rebranded Team Magic irrc)

Still can't decide lol. The granite is def the wilder of the two beasts. The MT10 seems more durable, but the granite's part availability is definitely there. If you can't decide just do coin flip and buy both over time. Whichever you get first will be a blast regardless.

Nice Video! You definitely don't take it easy on your cars. I have the Granite and like it, the Rival looks bad @$$ too!

If you're intending to get the new Team Associated Reflex 14MT, which is the baby brother to the MT10, be warned, the servo is not only trash and will break on your first big jump, but it is also smaller than your average mini servo. Would be fine, but it fits in a bracket. In a pretty tight space. Other than that, it is a beast of a truck.

I must say that after all these jumps, all these breakages are totally acceptable. You can't say that are bad trucks. The MT10 is slower because of the electronics or maybe of the whole gearing. For me i like to have also a better driving experience, but again i like both of them. Personally i have the MT10 and i suggest it. Today i drove for the first time my brand new traxxas rustler 4x4 vxl 3s, and i have bend one suspension saft, also i lost the lower round plastic part that holds steady the spring of the suspension, and these damages are from the first day. The MT10 didn't have these damages from the first day after 2 months of the same driving. So this say that maybe the MT10 is better ? kind of ? For sure the MT10 is yes from me.

If i ever get one, it would be the mt10, but on 3s. I hope the mt14 performs just as awesome. Ive seen a few reviews, but they dont have the guts to bash it like you do, one reviewer's servo broke on the mt14 :/

So that’s how you trim your trees 😂. My vote goes towards the mt10 for no particular reason other than a gut feeling.

Gotta go with the Team Associated although the Granite is pretty dang cool... Team Associated fixed it's self, That was hilarious 😂

I Have the granite i wish there was a center differential option

I have been waffling between the 1/10th Vorteks 4 x 4 3s BLX truck and the 1/8th typhon 4 x 4 V3 3s BLX buggy. Any thoughts or videos on comparing the two?

I’m looking for an electric RC car (preferably 1/8 scale ) that has a mechanical brake system, someone knows where I can find it? Thanks a lot ❤

Rival MT10! 👍

My servo went on mine smashed it into a bleacher lol gona bring it to the hobby shop to get a upgrade servo.just got a vortex it doest flip as much might be little faster

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1267">21:07</a> That front arms, rear hinge pin plate is also bent as duck 🦆

Hi love your channel, I like the Team Associated Rival MT10 better but right now I'm waiting to repair my Hosim XO8 I have ordered parts it needs a new rear gear box & left side transmission dog bones but going to get a few extra parts just in case but I still want to get 1 more rc truck I like the trucks better then the cars.

Team associated ftw. Cuzbibdont have he granite yet. Lol You need to make them 4s lol

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="549">9:09</a> as the saying goes:"you can't break, what's broken", so what you're saying there is perfectly logical, no asterix needed 😅😂

Hi man! Super nice video(like always ) Could you put the tools amazon link please? What do you think has better durability? HBX 2995 or ARRMA GRANITE? I know has a completely different price. thanks

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="451">7:31</a> & <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="777">12:57</a> a song by pink floyd comes to memory, titled "Another Brick in the Wall", where the lyrics went hey, teacher, leave those trees alone! 🤣

The Associated Electronics transmitters are doodoo. No one handed driving and their range is poor. Also I seem to need to set endpoints on them regularly but that could be the ESC. I recently swapped in a FlySky Receiver and using a different transmitter now has made all the difference. Also did it on our MT8 and Trophy Rat.

I feel bad saying it but that bench look a little risky to be sitting on! Great video anyway!

another thing, how easy is it to find parts for both of these trucks and how expensive are parts for each.

If you are not from US I would just get granite because of better availability.

Mt10 all day. Many reasons but mostly drive train is far superior imo

Granite's throttle delay is my biggest gripe

Sounds like the moral of the story is get both! 🤘

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Bent motor mount will start chomping your spur gear

Hey brother! Granite quit steering today. Any advice. TIA

Will you review the MJX 14 scale?

I have a choice between granite or mt10. I have no clue which to go with. It's mostly for bashing and Horizon has much better warranty but other than that I'm stumped...

I just slapped the Spektrum BLX system into my Rival MT10 and got the best of both worlds.

Hosim power

Both are amazingly durable, but that extra 15% performance out of the Arrma means a lot of extra build strength in terms of durability. It's not the new hotness, but it is likely the better built and bang for the buck truck. It doesn't have the center differential - which is a preference thing - and the MT10 may be easier to handle on asphalt, but it is largely inferior on grass, dirt, and typical loose traction offroad conditions. If handling is your thing, a lower vehicle with a longer wheel base would be more appropriate. A Kraton will eat both for lunch.

Team A mt10 for the win

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Rival MT10 for $339 or Granite BLX for $269. What one should I go with? I'm not going to do a ton of bashing. Thanks

Weve talked before about doing a center diff from the new 4s truvcks, and i finally got everuthing i need to complete my granite-to brcc with 4s center differential and a castle creations copperhead 10 2s-4s.sensored esc paired to a 3800 kv sensored brushless monstor. Without center diff and without lwb and wjde track kit, ny granite could hit just under 60mph on sketchy stock tires thst were hanging on for dear life lol. Anyways im thinking of maybe makkng a video showing how im converting my granited 4x4 into a beast 4s brcc with a center diff. Would anyone even watch it? Lmk guys an maybe ill record everything for you.

Plastic welder.. computer says "No". Just order the part and replace it. But that's just my approach.

dude you beat the crap out of that granite lol