Arthur was and represented the gang’s _life bar._ It sadly diminished unknowingly and permanently a little bit each time at every new camp established. It was totally full at Horseshoe Overlook and was miserably in the red once at doomed Beaver Hollow. Like himself dying, the gang didn’t have much time left to live. Those who voluntarily left weren’t cowards and probably made the best decision of their lives!
I feel like once Arthur started to grow sicker and sicker the gang also started to die out slowly, I mean without the happy positive Morgan the gang was also kinda dead@@KishorTwist
It's actually quite nice of uncle. He first speaks to Arthur for comfort and advice in worrisome times and after Arthur gives his response uncle seems to worry about him the most in that moment.
Both had serious illnesses Dutch ignored and when he didn't ignore them he just pointed them out to make them seem useless when both were once legendary gunslingers the one shot kid and van-der-linde's most trusted associate both had their career's ended by illness and yet both died protecting their families it's kind of sad to think if Arthur was still alive and never found out that Micah was a rat and John didn't survive he'd still be with Dutch but they'd see him as a burden it's kinda sad how Dutch refused to admit he's the bad guy
@abhirupkundu2778 suppression =/= mature Control = mature If you don't face your emotions to understand yourself and others, you will always remain inmature xd, it's logic
This hit hard when I first got this. Arthur, like Hosea, received the wisdom to realize their wrongdoings and try to redeem himself but at a hefty price. He didn't have the choice to live anymore, only to let others see that rather than die for *nonsense sprouted by a fool.*
As sad as it is, Hosea being shot fatally in the chest by Agent Milton during a failed bank heist was not Hosea’s redemption. I’m sure he made peace with himself a long time ago and was ready to die, though
Hosea as odd as it seemed did not need or seek redemption, he was the moral compass of the gang and even got the gang to help people back in the day, he was simply just old, he was having trouble breathing before he got killed but his family had already passed, hosea knew where he stood always, arthur having been raised by dutch didn't really have that luxury@@littleaqua32
In Chapter 2 Uncle told Arthur he is a sad man, in Chapter 3 he told him he was a sick man, then at Chapter 6 he told him he was a good man... Out of all the characters, Uncle is the only one who saw right through Dutch right from the beginning. Call him lazy, boring, whatever, but he was on his own since he was 9, and if we assume he is around 60-70, that's a lot of time to be alone (had a wife though). After Arthur, Hosea, and John, Uncle is by far my favorite character. :)
“I’m literally dying, and I know I give you a lot of crap, but I’m just trying to help people out now.” “Although I joke around a lot with you, you truly are a good person.” “Ok. Guess I’ll see you later then😐” Epic way to end a heartfelt talk.
"People gonna have to make a choice. Whether they live.. or die" "And you?" "I dont have that choice no more" Man, the end of chapter 5 and throughout Chapter 6, when Arthur realizes hes dying quickly and that the whole gang thing is dead in the water, is some of the most badass story telling of a single protagonist ever. Loyal arthur telling everyone whats gonna go down, to run away and never look back. Knowing hes gonna die either by agents, tb, or his own brothers. Just wants to help everyone make better of their lives. Like that moment where he basically tells Sadie hes a ghost already and to run away with johns family once he comes in and blows the roof off of the whole operation
He didn't say that, because this is no longer chapter 2 or chapter 3, where the gang had peace and prosperity, terms they've lost long ago. In chapter 6, everyone in the gang knew that everything would go straight to hell, even Jack knew.
I like to think Arthur wanted John and his family out because he was concerned about little Jack the most, and my head canon is after killing agent Ross, Jack went away and started a new life maybe even becoming a writer. This makes Arthur's sacrifice even more meaningful.
Yeah I think you're right cause in GTA 5 there is a book called Red dead that can be found and the authors name was J Marston, so I also believe Jack became a writer
"What's going to happen, you know... to everybody?" That heartfelt concern Uncle had for others got to me. To me. That exchange (and a few others) really hammered down that the fun was over. There was no more luck and no more fun. Either two things were going to happen. Either conform to society and the laws of the land, or die.
@@abhirupkundu2778"What plan, Dutch? What goddamn plan?" Even Dutch didn't knew what he was doing. He wanted money for himself and wasn't even subtle about it. He would've killed everyone in the gang if that would get him some extra cash, and he almost did that with Arthur himself. All of this because he let Micah get too close to him. Ik your comment was a joke, but i still needed to say it
We all just love the housebuilding scene of uncle, john and charles and now I see its because of all these downward vibes we got from chapter 6, it makes the house building scene feels like a fresh breeze of air after the long torture of story ending.
Yeah, I play as Arthur and already feel playing as John on his lonely voyages. No gang, no robberies. Just John chasing criminals or doing side quests in the bright Lemoyne sun
"im just trying to help others see clearly" Reminds me why i chose high honor go for the money ending I believed it was most befitting Arthur's character to attempt to secure John's portion of the money for his family, even if only to die the moment it touches John's hand. To secure his brothers future and in so doing possibly confront Dutch in one last futile attempt to make him see the truth. And if literally nothing else to stick a knife in that snake Micah's eye. A beautiful bit of symbolism. He who blinded others to the truth of his nature shall be blinded in kind. Eye for an eye indeed
From my point of view the money was not worth it, what was the point if they didn't get out of there alive? I understand what you're saying and what it meant but at that moment Micah, Dutch and the rest didn't matter, they were only interested in getting out of there to that John can be with his family, at least tit for tat was only a game for fools from Arthur's side.
@@Policianticadenas thing is Arthur was dying. From my perspective "revenge is a fools game" no longer applies to Arthur and imo he knew it. Therefore Arthur possibly would take the chance to grab the money for John since he's dying and has accepted it. Granted it's somewhat meta gaming from the players perspective because we know John will escape. Basically I just think Arthur would've done everything he could to help John including going to get his share of the money for him so he won't struggle like he did in the epilogue
In my opinion, Clemen's Point was the peak of the gang. It was the highest POINT of the camp. But Beaver Hollow, well, if the names mean anything, is just so...lifeless. dead. Hollow
I can’t believe this game is already nearly 6 years old. It is still my favorite game of all time, and imo about as close to perfect as a game could be. I still am discovering things I’ve never seen or heard of before. No matter what other games I play, I always find myself coming back to this one.
When Jack was saying that he hoped people didn't fight anymore, I realize how hard it hurt. Seeing Uncle Arthur coughing. Seeing "Uncles" Dutch, Javier, and Bill treat his parents and everyone around him with hostility. Seeing people who he loved as Uncles and Aunties leaving or dying. Poor Jack Marston.
One of rhe few games that make you feel the pain of the character.Whem Arhur passed away I was sad for weeks.This is a masterpiece,more than a simple game,an interactive story where we are as much characters as we are spectators.Rest in peace Arthur Morgan,you earned your rest
Out of everyone in this game, I feel the most for Jack. He doesn't really know what's going on. The whole gang is his family, and in the end, they're all at each other's throats.
One wonders how things would have turned out if 3 major things were different; 1) Dutch decided to LAY LOW and not try for any big scores (like robbing banks) and thus didn't draw attention to himself and the gang. 2) Arthur never went to see Mr. Downs and thus didn't get TB and 3) they LEFT Micah's snake @$$ hang in Strawberry. He only rode with the gang for a year and his venom poisoned an already fragile Dutch
Man, this lines of Arthur, Uncle and Jack being a child between all the problems the gang had for those moments make the Chapter 6 the most saddest part of the game and of a game in videogames history
The only game thats hit me in the feels. These scene and a few others are touching, Rockstar went above with this game, Arthur Uncle and John live through Jack Marston. 🤝🍻
I’m doing a second, low honor, play through, I feel bad that I got Javier to hate me, unless he’s always distant, or maybe it’s the topic of conversation? Arthur says something like it must be hard to be far from home and he says “yeah, see you later”
What we do in-game is not canon anyway, dialogues occur according to your honor just before the conversation start. After that, the dialogue remains history, whatever you do after doesn't affect anything that occurred during and before the dialogue. I know you were joking, but this joke has been used since 6 yrs and its getting annoying.
MESSAGE : Tomorrow isn't promised to anyone, and once we realize and truly care enough to understand that we will start to live and spend time with your love one's and your children...
