Artillery and High-Explosive shells: Important Changes for 2021. Guide Park [World of Tanks] 

To wrap the whole video up: hulldown tanks are now significantly stronger than ever before and you can prepare your wallet for the greatest credit heist in the history of WoT

I feel like this rework is straight from the anger of "me hull down only" people getting slowly clapped by players slapping em with HE lmao

it's so strange that players giving massive feedback about artas and solutions as well , but wargaming never listen . that why many of them left the game

so 279e and chieftain are unstoppable now :*(

Main change. Less HE, more monees. Balance achieved!

You've made the arty missions absolutely impossible. I fired a FULL load of alternative to do 5 crit hits to internal modules or crew and all I've gotten so far is 2. The burst radius is a joke, the damage is pathetic. This class is absolutely unplayable now, but for some reason you didn't change the arty requirements for the personal missions (or just do away with them altogether at this point). This upgrade is an epic failure on your part.

You did the tests with the players. But you did not listen to the players…

matchmaking with 3 artys be like: 4:52

To feel more comfortable in a HT its not SPG-nerfs and HE shell remodeling that is the most needed, it as rebalance of the Gold ammo that is needed!

Well, time to remove the crew off my KV-2. Goodbye mighty tank of Stalin

these HE changes still dont make any sense whatsoever, especialy the part where the HE works differently for arties and standard tanks? ok buddy, buff op tanks even more, gj wg

My god these new HE mechanics are stupid

Just remove arty campaign missions for the reward tanks and most of the arty players will go to play normal tanks. There are only 2 grinds to do with arty in randoms, either going up the techtree or doing personal missions with them so please, don't force players to play arty every time someone wants to get the obj 260 because (and I talk from my own experience) its painful enough

real commedy is check out the comments and see how wargaming liked 1 of every 20 comment which has short and only positive ones . keep up the good work wargaming lol

Adding new shells new mechanics (tO lImiT aMounT of StuN ) bruh just remove arty missions or re-work it coz YOU NEED TO DEAL STUN DAMAGE so it doesn't change a thing or just limit only one arty per game coz Tier 10/9 is absolutely garbage with 3 cancer devices (new perk is useless for slow tanks) , 9 of 10 games is 3/2 jeffs per team just think wg think , just watch reaction of Skill4ltu DezGamez Quickybaby I only appreciate brighter tracers and nerfing M44 , new HE )

yeah rework the H.E. but you still face 3 spgs per game and they shoot the same tank always... it does not really fix the complete issue

You guys HAVE TO rework artillery missions wargaming. After the SPG change (biggest nerf in WoT history) the mission are now almost impossible to finish. Please take a look at the missions and update them. Thanks :)

just remove arty missions and your expected amount of stun will actually decrease

here comes the hull down meta!! whoo!

So if i know my explosives well the HE got changed into low pen HEAT. Explosion is always volumetric and an explosion only at the point of impact is the definition of the heat shell in real life. Call it shaped charge too but thats still heat. And an explosion in real life will always go the way of less resistance , thats how guns accelerate their projectiles, these changes make no sense in definition. What made less sense was that the explosion got armor penetration values.

sigh, you guys just cant listen to your player base... 1. HE is not the problem... Gold ammo is the problem 2. If you want to introduce sound detection as skill....(kinda usefull) give it to the radio operator. The commander is already burdened with tons of required skills, while the radio operator usually needs 3 (BIA, repairs, vision increase) 3. Artillery in itself is not the problem. Having 3 arty in one game 80% of the time is a problem. Reduce to 2 arty max. 4. The arty shell type really do not give players a choice. The only viable shells will be those with the largest splash radius due to the massive rng involved in hitting a target with arty.

17:32 "Look for the spots with thin armour!"... uh, did you forget about the OBJ 279E? What about the hulldown Chieftain? What about the tanks without frontal weakspots that you too implemented!?

All their work for nothing... And it would be sooo simple. Reduce arty only one per battle and all would be happy. No need for this changes...

I've been a player since 2015, and this isn't the game I started playing World of Tanks with, it's something else. It's time to uninstall, thanks WG for nothing. You'll never smell my money again. Never. Я игрок с 2015 года, и это не та игра, в которую я начал играть в World of Tanks, это что-то еще. Пришло время удалить, спасибо WG ни за что. Вы больше не будете нюхать мои деньги. Никогда.

The ratio of likes to dislikes speaks volumes lmao

The fact that the HE exploding under a tank does no damage, that's not acceptable, it's high-EXPLOSIVE, not high-disappointment or sth

As usual, great job on the video, terrible job on the changes. Balancing department is delusional or just clueless what is actually going on in the game.

I was hoping one of arty shell types would be smoke so that they could get involved in the vision game.

What about all of personal missions that include module damage, tracking and damage, spg (stuning) and who knows what else...??? Sorry new players but the chance to earn a tank is much less now, and if you want a new tank: PREMIUM STORE!!! (in other words: pay or bugger off!!!)

9:45 Studying theories and equations in school be like

WG updating everything that doesn't need to be fixed while leaving key issues out. like idk 3 arties in a game, or 3 ebrs, or chieftains/ 279e always destroying. you add in the current version of field modification and it's over for the game tbh

cant wait for all the 0dmg shots with 183 against grille 15 and ebr

I dont really need info on arty, I know ALL enemy arty is targetting ME

How do you zoom in with arty if u have trajectory on scroll wheel

Can you make a video about penning a T95/FV4201 in hull-down position pls?

The new arty HE shells should have been named "Timed" and "Impact." Their new functions would reasonably match those real types of artillery fire. Timed/airburst HE would affect a larger area and could be reasoned that it needs a slower velocity to decrease the margin of timing error, while an impact fuze would affect a smaller area with greater damage.

Dont change HE ‼️

Hmmm.. when you say armor thickness on HE, does that apply on thin armors but is angled like the IS-7's upper front hull?

In the description for HE arty shells, it says that damage to internal modules and crew is possible upon penetration. Does this mean no arty shell is capable of causing internal module damage without penetrating anymore? I ask this because in the article on the portal, "Sandbox Test: Reworked SPG Mechanics - FAQ", it states "Also, unlike standard ammo, the alternative shell will be able to damage internal modules and injure the crew.". What am I to make of this? Does standard ammo just never cause internal damage even when penetration is achieved? Or do alternative shells still do internal damage and it's just written incorrectly or incompletely in the info card?

does the new intuition work for autoreloaders or did you forget that?

Why you didn't change artilery missions according to this in new patch? It's like you delivering new car without wheels.

Took you guys long enough to make one.

who has t95 Chieftan and obj279e rules the game ..., if they make hull down players cant kill em

I like how all the T10 arty have T1 DPM in exchange for such powerful AP shells.

Even though I personally don't see the point of HE changes I understand why you did them. What I don't understand, however, is why you changed the fact that you could splash enemies and not shoot through objects with it. I don't understand how this is something so gamebreaking that you had to remove it, as far as I know it was just an unexpected and useful way to leverage your knowledge of the game's mechanics to your advantage. Examples: Like hiding behind a small obstacle when a deathstar is aiming at you, knowing that he'll not even hit you if he first hits that object Or when a low HP enemy is hiding around a corner and you're able to just splash the ground to kill them

Now it time to sell t49, Sheridan, m4, kv2, fv4005 and all my spgs, good bye.

I highly doubt this HE change is good when you play like tier 8 tank versus tier 10 tank. At least old HE shells let you do SOME damage if you were lucky. It seems to me that now you cannot do any damage at higher tier heavy tanks with HE shell. Not a good change. Would have been better to nerf certain few tanks which were and probably still are a problem after patch. But whatever we'll see..

Arty shell without stun = pointless... the damage from the team is usually worth way more then your own damage.

I think free to play player can leave this game now. If this is what WG has decided to do might as well cater to the pay 2 win player. You know, just put the price tag on the game and add lootboxes for each season.

WG should release how many prem ammo was used before and after this patch

Nice job ruining a game where a 183mm hesh shell does no damage to the side of a EBR anymore if you hit the RUBBER tires

It's pretty pointless to have different shell types for arty when you have a half hour reload time. Different shells for different situations is only useful when you have 5sec or less reload. I miss the arty shell sound hitting the tank, metal on metal singing .... now it's a floof of sparks and disney animation. too bad, back to steam I go.

One HE shell stuns, but the other HE shell doesn't. HOW DOES THAT EVEN MAKE ANY SENSE??? One of the WORST updates WG has ever released and they have no plans on any retractions. Its fine, the game will just die faster than it already is.

WG: "Introduce two HE shells for SPG" Me: This is getting out of hand..now there are two of them...

Like the changes or hate them, you gotta appreciate the quality of these videos.

Changes is nice and all, but why did the new skill have to be on the busiest crew member aka the comander. Could you change it to radio guy or maybe loader. If you wont change it, might as well make sixth sense avaible for all vehicle

just did a match in the Maus to debate this point: HE Rework - nobody asked for it, you only catered to the Clan War Players because they were being dealt with in the T95/FV4201. soon as half the enemy team saw me and bounced normal AP, they flung so much gold at me they could make California blush. Gold ammo spam is a major and significant problem in the game for tanks that NEED to rely on armor.

So, I have to spend all my credits on gold ammo if HE became useless against hull monsters?

What about missions? are u going to change them ?

How about when you SHOOT AP and in the side of a tank and still say Screen Not Penetrated, what about THAT?

a gun with 200mm+ of caliber does 150 dmg per shot to a tank from above, while others does the double?

It Is difficult to complete SPG missions on campaign missions. They should change also the conditions as it is harder to deal dammage for SPG's

Yeiii, more arty features, exactly what we need, now everybody will play even more arty just to see how it is. What we need is an artilery with double HP, so we can have less chances to one shoot them.

So went are the ebrs getting removed ?

How about having a option in which people can pick if they want to be put in match making with artillery?.....

These changes are terrible Some of my favorite tanks like the T49 have been considerably nerfed by this It's really annoying to see the tanks I unlocked through hours and hours of grinding become obsolete due to an ammunition rework

AP could be good for counter arty. If you dont oneshot the enemy (Aka hit it), you might not scare it away from its position. I think i finally have a reason to grind to the BC arty with clip.

Nice

Great update

how about spg campaign missions

Players: Nerf 279e!! War Gaming: Ok we will nerf HE to make him even more invencible, FOR THE RUSSIAN BIAS

This means artys will try to kill artys every time in the first 3 minutes.. 😓

soo... artys gonna have ap ammo back?

One arty for team mabe ?

You really should've taken more time with the HE changes instead of rushing it out already.. not liking this

Just played a few battles with my KV-2 in this new update, I just ''bounced'' the flat side of a Cromwell and no damage to a KV-3 4 times in a row... It's worse than I've expected, MUCH WORSE. Total disregard of all the players who use HE to save credits and/or to damage a tank that you can't pen, even with gold. This game just got a lot more unbalanced and depressing...

Those arty changes are risky, very risky... And as for those HE shells... If it aint broke don't fix it.

so bloody scared about announcing this they made a separate video from the main update video, just in case they need to sweep it under the carpet!

i like how the fv's 4005 and 183 aren't HE based gameplay nice....sad

yeah, 3 shells type mandatory for arty, and they are capped at 20 shells :( I always remain without shells in most of the games :(

when will you realize that you should just remove the arty missions

No change to MMing, and new HE shells mechanics from Science-Fiction books. This game is becoming more and more on the verge of Isaac Asimov's books. When are the Wargaming adverstisements changing : "Historical vehicles with less and less reality mechanics" ?

This means you cant even do 50 dmg to donkerers and 279e s, and they just load the gold and you´re screwed, or hit a wheel in an ebr with high explosive and no dmg if theres nothing behind?? HE wasnt even a problem to begin with, just buffing heavys, what is an is3 supost to do when it finds an 279e? Shoot HE? No damage, Flank? Get recked by campers, camp? c´mon.. and WHY the hell have Sound Detecion on the commander??? TF?? We already have 30 skills on an commander and want more, why no on the radio operator? Its "Sound", I have no idea why they dont listen to players, and still the politic "no nerfing premiums", they nerfed all the ebrs except the premium one, I have that one and dont mind, keeping the balance of the game is important

All arties are fubar but not only arty will suffer . It also means LTs are spotting for nothing and get less damage upon spotting . Introducing AP shells to all high tier arties is just not the brightest idea as long as the accuracy has been nerfed . There is no point on loading AP if you know that there is 99.99 chances to miss the target and do 0 dmg . The less annoying HE has the splash radius smaller than the gun dispersion , that means you always hit one meter further away from the target than the distance required to do damage . The first HE shell type , the annoying one , will get more xp for arty for stunning and less xp for almost no damage done . In other words , all LT and SPG missions are simply close to impossible to complete . Of course in this presentation is shown the one AP round that hit , one out of few millions shot and missed , and not shown the AP round with 370mm pen that hits a target with 40mm armor and bounce . I think all test results in the Test Server are corrupted and implementing them in the live servers will lead to some decrease in DPM (Dollars per Minute) . What makes me say that ?! First of all only tier 10 vehicles were tested , mostly without the participation of the vehicles that were subject for the changes . Second , All vehicles in the test were equipped with improved equipment and all skills crew and all this was expected to performe just as well with normal equipment and no skills crew . Third , there is no point in buying premium tanks or/and premium account to enter in a game where everything that could be considered as fun is systematically removed from the game .

Leave HE as it is. Fix GOLD AMMO!!!

so the HE got replaced by APHE o.O?

Good luck taking out hull down meta heavies.

How to make strong armored tanks survive more. Make gold ammo limited. The end.

That new skill should be on the radio operator not the commander. They have to much skills already or give it to everyone automatically as a setting options which is what it should have been.

If i am in a slow heavy tank i olwase get trackd and can not escape the eneny so i allways rely on my hering

hmmmm i didn´t hear something about that bullshit "Penetration loss coefficient was removed for HE shells passing through destructible objects (for example: fences). For screens and modules (including tracks and wheels), the additional armor penetration loss remained." WTF WG all Heat sticks to objects but HIGH EXPLOSIVE can fly through without explosion, find the Mistake

Anyone else has all audio be muted when hit by arty? It sucks.

So basically if you have kv-2 and you have yellow indicater on lets say tiger you will not penetrate and you will cause like 100-160 dmg but before you would cause at least 300-400

Hopefully WG takes a hint from the like/dislike bar

Damn so many dislikes on this video 😔 I shall add another!

the time of he has passed but the time of prem ammo spam is still her ;) wish we had old armour models

as a high cal he user, i knew that thicker armor=less damage, i guessed it, yet i still dont take it into play lol

Well, intuition skill is awesome except when you are using it on Progetto 65 or any other auto-reloading guns. You must reload the full mag (roughly 46 sec) just to activate the skill, which loads only 1 shell in the mag.... Why would you even try to do this, if you already have 4 shells loaded. You have literally better chances to deal dmg with 4 normal shells than 1 gold one. +Meanwheile standard autoloaders changing their full clip in no time. Massive nerf to autoloading guns like IS3a, Obj 703, and all the Italian auto-loader heavys and meds. If you already reloaded all the shells, then they should have the buff too, of course, according to the loading time of each one, one by one. The other changes are fine, except that we still don't know how much they buffed for example m60, and we still have 3 arty games. And t92 should receive rather some top speed buff if they really want to buff it.

You realize that HE wasn't the problem for super heavys right? its that all the enemy have to do is load premium and they can go right through your turret.. Nerf Premium not HE... Yall are out of touch.

i play this game since 2011. I've never seen so much badmouthing artys when we have wheeled tanks! Now HE modified? because of artys? why? There is no logic