Assassin's Creed Rogue - Shay Cormac's Betrayal 

Remastered Version: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-d-rIbnpF49I.html

Shay is a true savior of the Assasins ironically, he ended a corrupted brotherhood and forged the new one that was taught the right way (Connor).

I like Assassins more than Templars, but what Shay did is not a betrayal, but a right choice

Is it just me or did the assassins broke a rule? "Stay your blade from the innocent"

I view the moment of Shay taking off his hood as a moment of symbolism that showed that he was no longer an assassin. Everyone else had their hoods on but him, thus showing the distinction between Shay’s ideology and theirs.

i actually hate this branch of assassins. they used gangs to terrorize civilians and don't care for the mass deaths they caused. they were unscrupulous

If Shay got three games as Ezio we would have had another masterpiece of a character at hand. Truly a missed opportunity. 1st game Shay is accepted to the Assassin brotherhood 2nd game Shay questions Assassin brotherhood at the end makes a choice to become a templar 3rd game Shay hunts down assassins and destroys colonial brotherhood. Edits: Added *had in the first sentence

“You’ll have to run faster than that” Runs right by him

This whole game happened because of a misunderstanding

Aren't they breaking a rule? "Stay my blade away from the innocent" *ACHILLIES BROKE AN AMENDMENT*

''All those souls lost, one more hardly matters...''

Imagine for a second if you will. Achilles enters the room quietly and says "Shay, don't do this. Don't betray the Brotherhood. Come speak with me, I will listen." and Shay walked with Achilles and told him everything he saw, Achilles realizing how wrong they had been. Imagine how different a future Shay and the Brotherhood may have had. I wish they would make this into a DLC one day.

Bruh the ASSASSINS betrayed SHAY

Playing Rouge gave me a reason to actually believe the Templars. It's just different ideologies. Both want the same thing but want to control it differently. There's good assassins and bad assassins, just like good Templars and bad Templars. I never liked Achilles and Charles Lee.

Apparently achilies shouting could make the mortars on the ship ready to fire.

I love how Shay didn't get to complete the leap of faith into the water It signifies his fall from the brotherhood

I am 100% sure that Altair and Ezio would be so disgusted by how Achilles handles the colonial assassins. Sure, they also collect artifacts, but they hid those in secrecy or simply study their nature. They never shared its secrets to the Brotherhood and use it for power.

Shay did what he believed was right

the real villain of this game. Chevalier

"All those souls lost....one more hardly matters." Man, the feels from that line. I wish we saw an alternate path, where Shay eventually sees the Templars as being selfish pricks and goes solo. Young Shay still reminds me so much of Pierce Brosnan.

3:47 "I cannot! I will not let this happen again! All those souls lost... One more hardly matters..."

Technically it wasn't Shay who betrayed the brotherhood. But the brotherhood betrayed Shay, Achilles refused to listen even though Shay clearly knew what he was talking about. The Assassins were the first ones to resort to violence (Chevalier at the beginning, and Achilles when he caught Shay stealing the manuscript) And they even shot him in the back when he was about to kill himself which to me just seems like they tried to make sure that he was 100% dead and out of their way.

This isn’t when Shay betrayed the brotherhood. Here he’s just stealing the only thing that would cause the Colonial Assassins from find the precursor sites. But he wasn’t doing it to betray them at this moment. It wasn’t until Shay learned that the Assassin’s were causing destruction in New York with their chemical gas weapons. Which is when he becomes a Templar.

Apparently someone on RU-vid said the Assassins knew Shay would come steal the box. - Although the first one is unseen on the video, a figure can be seen looking out in the glowing window on the manor. It retreats when the player goes close. Presumably Achilles. - 0:18 It is faint, but you can hear the signature Assassin's whistle in the background. It's probably used as a signal for the assassins to prepare their ambush once Achilies gave them a signal. - 0:42 You can hear a door faintly creak and close. Its probably said Achilies, as in the cutscene, Achilles enters the room and catches Shay in the act. Otherwise, it's very cool details about the assassins. They kind of live up to their slogans as hawks. *They saw Shay coming when he didn't see them.*

3:01 "I can shoot him" Runs by him

I like how chevalier just starts using mortars just to kill a single man and doesn't care if he destroys achiles's land

Achilles' philosophy was actually more in line with the Templars than Shay's. Shay: "We don't have the right to decide that future!" Achilles: "The right? We have the responsibility!" Every other chapter of the assassins placed freedom above all else, while the Templars sought to control the masses by making decisions on their behalf. Ubisoft may claim that Shay is a Templar, but in reality, he's not; Achilles was the Templar, and Shay was the last true Assassin in the chapter.

This is actually very similar to Ezio in Brotherhood. He was shot from a high place, in the shoulder, and fell only to wake up in a strangers house. After playing the remastered version I thought of it and was surprised how similar they were in that scene.

I don't hate Shay, I really agree with him. He joined the Templars for a good reason for it and I really appreciate it. Plus, the brotherhood is responsible for killing innocents and destroying cities. And they don't even care. There is no good or evil. For that matters is to do what you thought was right and no matter what side you chose or on. Templars perhaps... maybe assassin's. And of course that I'm an assassin. I really enjoyed playing as haytham kenway, the legendary Templar grand Master himself. He's a good character but sadly that he's a Templar but at least that he has assassin abilities. The which it's so cool for Templar like him that I want to connect to him.

Assassin's Creed 3 and Rogue really made you realise that the Templars had a point. Yes in a lot of cases their methods were wrong, E.g: Using the Observatory to spy on people, using the apple of Eden to control the masses. However Haytham simply believed freedom was a fantasy, an invitation to chaos and instead people just needed to be put in line. They need more stories like this in the new games

Shay didn’t betray the brotherhood the assassin’s did Shay did what he had to do A right choice

I wish Shay made his own order instead of joining the Templars

This game was great, but lets be honest, we weren't playing from a Templars perspective, the Assassins in this game were the bad guys, Shay was the one with morals

Shay didn’t betray the Assassins they betrayed him.

An understated detail of this memory detailing Shay's defection is how he's jumping seemingly to kill himself and take the manuscript with him at the end there. Instead of making a leap of faith like an Assassin he's instead leaping to end his life as one. His faith in the creed was over.

Shay did not betray the assassin's, he was right about the assassin's killing people he was doing the right thing they betrayed him

One thing to know in Assassin's Creed is that there's no such thing as good guys or bad guys. The game was created by a multicultural team of various religious beliefs, and the sole intent of Assassin's Creed was to be culturally diverse as possible. While I'm very angry at Shay for turning against the three tenets of the creed, keep in mind that in Assassin's Creed, there's no such thing as Black or White.

3:47 I cannot! I will not let this happen again! All those souls lost!.. One more hardly matters

The feels.

Probably a coincidence, but I like how 1:58 Shay crashes through a window trying to escape the brotherhood just like Altair in Revelations. The camera angle is mirrored too

if altair and ezio was there..they also will agree cormac betrayal upon achilles because of his wrongdoing..but altair and ezio will disagree cormac decision to join the templar..maybe they will create their own movement alternatively..

In this part you can find a figure running around you can even find him above Achilles house jumping off into a Bush and dissapearing to nothingness in fact that's kesegowaase and what's best he can be shot Note: shoot him twice he's not gonna die but he's just gonna stand there you can either just continue the mission or kill him but it won't affect the story as I may think

How fucking sad that this ended up being better than unity lol

Even if he betrayed... He's a fucking badass and I love him...

Shay and Liam got along so well and knew each other as children so I was surprised when he shot shay

Almost every assassin guild: Lets build this thing up to just burn it down later, also cant wait untill someone betrays us. Templars: betrayal? what is that?

May the father of understanding guide us all.....

3:45 to the end, WHAT IS THAT BEAUTIFUL MUSIC?

Has the Assassins followed their creed in this game? "Nothing is true, everything is permitted."

I didn't betray the Brotherhood, the Brotherhood betrayed me!

For those who believe Achillies was to blame, I'll admit what happen between him and Shay was complicated

I just finished the story today for the 3rd time and out of all the AC games, Rogue is my favorite. My one complaint is that I wish it was longer. I’m also disappointed that Unity didn’t have a mission where Arno hunts down Shay.

Just A Reminder Not all Templars are Bad And Not all assassin's are good

I think i'm gonna like rogue

Now the Assassins learned in practice what "never compromise the brotherhood" stood for. Achillies was an undeserving mentor, thought and acted as a Templar and thus weakened the Assassins from the inside. Shay was a consequence of his arrogance. And when he finally regains his senses, got wiser, and re-studied and rediscoveried the Creed, Connor would rise. Connor is Achilles's Redemption and the embodiment of the honor once thought to have been lost. While Shay became heartless, sunk within the Templar's hipocrisy blindly following it as they wanted humanity to do so.

3:45 This game is a masterpiece story and acting wise and will never stop being one

Why didn’t he throw the Manuscript into the fire? There’s an open fireplace in the room. It’d destroy the book for good.

*1:37** - "The right!? WE HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY!"* It's so weird to see Achilles as an antagonist when in AC3 he was an ally and even kind, even showing signs of arrogance.

This and 3 are the games that pushed me over to siding with the templars

The assassin's duty was to protect the pieces of eden before the Templars could get to them. That means, if the Templars have gotten it first, then the same incident would have happened. It's all a stupid misunderstanding. And that's why it's so tragic because what Shay fought for was actually what the Assassins stood for. He could've been a good assassin.

I don't blame him. Even Ezio would shake his head to see his brotherhood turned to shit.

Shay literally did the same thing Altair did. Achilles is fucking insane.

arent the assassins that betrayes him? or its backward

We need another rogue game, if it happens this man will challenge the position of Ezio.

"Shay Cormack's awakening" there, fixed the title for you

You were the chosen one! It was said you'd destroy the Templars, not join them. Bring balance to the brotherhood, not leave in darkness! You were my brother Shay, I loved you.

shay had done the right thing

If you look at the board in achilles' room before you take the manuscript you can see some references to AC Unity. Cool detail

He is not a traitor. He is just the good one who wants to make the world better place. It was Achilles' brotherhood who turned out to be rats.

Basically Anakin Skywalker

4:01 omg my friend

Why is this game the best game to ever exist even though it only took 9 months to make? They really put a lot of effort in it for a short span of time. Imagine if we could’ve gotten a bigger game. Would’ve been more than a masterpiece

At the homestead,that was Chevallier,I don't miss

I have to admit Shays actions here are somewhat justified in a way, because the more temples they found, the more death they would cause: he was trying to stop the end before it could happen.

Oh Achilles. He was stubborn with Shay and stubborn with Connor. It's not like Shay was an Initiate, he could have listened to him if he wanted to.

The entire time i was thinking USE YOUR FUCKING SMOKE BOMBS

Funny u call it a betrayal, when I thought I was doing the right thing, I know in my soul that they didn't realize what they weren't doing, but they still needed to be quelled from doing more wrongs, for the good of humanity, if it wasn't for me back then you mighta not have been born, ur lucky I fell into the atlantic ocean and got frozen for 200 years to tell u this, tell me where u are so we can speak in person i cant type as good as i speak, love shay

"There's no excuse for this level of madness." Meaning nothing Achilles will say will soothe the trauma Shay had witnessed in the Lisbon earthquake.

Best scene in the whole AC franchise.

I hate how the most hastily made game in the series just so happens to be the most philosophically profound game in the series

It's what Shaun says; the Assassins and Templars are not the good guys they just want to help humanity in their own different ways. The original Colonial Brotherhood had become like the Templars of the Renaissance; too arrogant, too ideological. As for Arno hunting Shay, I listened to an interview with Arno's VA and he says he doesn't think Arno would go after Shay because like Ezio it wouldn't bring his father back.

In fairness to Shay, when he calls the quest for the temples a "mad grab for power", Achilles doesn't deny that isn't the case and is the one who makes things physical by shoving Shay to the window.

Shay: Gets shot and falls of a cliff Game: no damage taken 👌

I just beat the game yesterday and Shay didn't really "betray" the brotherhood, but he didn't want the Assassin's destroying cities...now I know why he went "Rogue"...good game though, I like it

It is very ironic that from the moment shay became a templar he upheld the creed's tenets even more than the actual colonial assassins did.

Interesting note: Anakin Skywalker and Shay Patrick Cormac both turned away from their respective orders because they wanted to save lives and were disillusioned by their brotherhood’s response to that concern.

Shay is the only person who have clear rational tho

3:48 Anyone else think his voice slightly resembles Peter Capaldi (12th doctor from doctor who) in this line?

Abstergo have changed those memories to make assassins bad guys

My man survived this fall.

The irony is the Assassin's brotherhood themselves that betrayed Shay and everything they stood for. They tried to save the world only to doom it in the process. Even more so, it stemmed from the fact that the brotherhood had become too arrogant.

They tried so hard to make the Assassins look like villains in this game, badly too. Poisoning the city? Taking hostages? Narrative of such a point of view is pretty subjective from a group that had a ageless reputation of barbarism as the Templars did... The whole games vents was focalized on impulsiveness and naivety of shay, and a vast web of grievous misunderstandings that spiraled out of control. I would have liked to seen him get clipped by Arno as an old man.

Shay not betrayal the assassin, assassin betrayal the shay

Im actually playing this game right now

In the colonial/revolution/democracy period from 1500 to 1800, the Assassins and Templars really showed just how jaded and misguided they were in trying to build a new world. The Templar’s under Haytham became more cruel, arrogant, and brutal but still trying to be sincere. Achilles’ Assassins had become prideful, dangerous, and too irrational, but still wanted to protect and serve. Even Arno in Paris saw what Bellec and Germain saw: both orders were becoming complacent and blind to the world tearing itself apart. Even Aveline and Connor saw their home become a battlefield for chaos. They did their best to secure some semblance of peace even if they barely attained it for themselves. That’s what made Abstergo and the present Assassins what they are. They’re the descendants of those who lost out on their past and made similar mistakes and sins. I think that’s why I stepped away from AC for the past 5 years. Ubisoft gave a really good story with this time period and after that....they just dropped the ball. Odyssey was flawed from the ground up, Syndicate was just a parody that pissed off a lot of fans (that Desmond joke was in poor taste), and the lore and canon was still all over the place. I got so tired of the series, the fandom, and the company that I had left it....until now.

When shay and haytham found Achills and liam liam said "right or wrong shay you betrayed the brotherhood Achills and me" Shay says "says the man who shot me in the back" thats all i remeber but shay is a templar now

Shay was correct I never see him as villain.... He is real hero.... He is different type of man.

When he says 'All those souls lost... one more hardly matters..' shit I really feel that.

A lot of complications lead to Shay's defect honestly, Achilles is a vet who understands only that the Templars are the enemy and probably for awhile hasn't seen a "good side" to them at all given his background and instead of listening to Shay's tries to take argue that the order would do worse with the tools. Shay at he moment is young and inexperienced yet is the first to see first hand what the artifact could do (I think my lore is pretty rusty) however don't blame Achilles to much Shay again since he's still new let's his ire get to him instead of try to calm down (it's an understandble anger though given Shay is of the faith and literally just caused Innocents o die

No Shay never betrayed the Assassins. They betrayed Shay by sending him to kill innocents and not caring about the consequences. Everything they did was against the creeds motives, and they used Shay to do it. So of course he would have to switch sides.