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Why Future Western Sydney Airport is a Logistical Nightmare
The new western Sydney International Airport is a massive project that has been the subject of several debates, since it was proposed by the federal leader of Australia’s national party in 2014.
On paper, a fancy new airport sounds like a no-brainer, but with countless taxpayer dollars spent on reviews and consultations, the $11 billion Western Sydney Airport might be nothing but a logistical nightmare.
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@brianmorris8045
@brianmorris8045 Год назад
I remember when I was young, hearing people saying the Sydney Opera House project would never be finished. I hope they felt embarrassed.
@telaandias3531
@telaandias3531 Год назад
This was such a bizarre video…
@vintageradio3404
@vintageradio3404 Год назад
The information in this video is out of date by a long shot. Whilst the oil pipeline is still subject of a discussion as to a preferred route, there is a motorway link between the airport site and Ampol's oil terminal at Kurnell. As for the rail link, it has been approved by the NSW Government and construction has begun. Both the rail line and the M12 Motorway will be complete by the time the airport is due to open.
@stefenosthepom2649
@stefenosthepom2649 Год назад
The motorway link is a CARPARK it is Useless!!
@kierannelson2581
@kierannelson2581 Год назад
What a strange video. A delayed pipeline, a metro train line within a few years of opening and a current squabble about funding for bus connections doesn't mean it will be anywhere near a white elephant. The worst, the pipeline, will be constructed. It's fine.
@DavoPJR
@DavoPJR Год назад
The fuel pipeline not withstanding, this video needs to be fact checked throughout. It’s just plain wrong!
@inodesnet
@inodesnet Год назад
Slight fact correction. Sydney Airport is not Australia's largest. Bad fact checking here..... it's actually extremely small and in fact, it's the smallest of any of the state capital airports in Australia. What this video meant to say is that it is Australia's busiest airport. The size comes down to two simple issues. Age and location. The current Sydney International Airport is actually the oldest continually operating international airport. It's second in pure age to Amsterdam Airport Schiphol. This should not be a surprise given that both the Netherlands and Australia share very early trans-continental history with the Dutch national carrier KLM being the oldest airline and the Australian national carrier Qantas, being the longest continually operating airline (3rd oldest after KLM and Avianca). Australia was also the first country to have both a National Airline and Air Force. When the airport was built, it was in a rural area. But today, that rural area is only 5km from the CBD (downtown) of Sydney. To put that in perspective, if the edge of Sydney Airport was the Empire State building, the centre of Sydney would be the new World Trade Centre. Sydney needs a second airport. The biggest issue is that Sydney is hemmed in by rivers and mountains. Very early in its development, governments quickly stepped in to convert as much of the land as possible into parklands and national parks. Sydney is home to the second oldest national park in the world, and has almost 50% of the land protected which adds to what makes it such a liveable city. The urban spawl has moved around national parks but has left almost no place for a second airport. Thankfully the government is not shy in spending money. The airport will receive a train line not too long after the airport is built, and well before the airport traffic is ramped up. It won't be perfect to start with, but I expect the metro projects will soon see frequent express services. Metro projects going on in Sydney are collectively twice as large as London's Crossrail project, taking most of the engineers and designers from those projects.
@inodesnet
@inodesnet Год назад
@@johnnichol9412 land area is significantly smaller. But being built in 1920, it was likely built to be large at the time. Perth for example is about 5 times the size. Melbourne makes Sydney look like a postage stamp. While Sydney's runways go out into Botany Bay, making it longer than some (the runway at YSSY was extended to be the Sth Hemisphere runway for the Space Shuttle), the land area of Adelaide airport is larger with space even around the runways.
@HenrysAviation
@HenrysAviation Год назад
In terms of passenger numbers and aircraft/freight movements, Sydney airport is the busiest. Also, Sydney airport is still a pretty big airport. By land area it is most certainly not the smallest of all capital cities. You are forgetting a few. It’s also important to note, that of the land area in Sydney, almost all of it is used space, where as in airports such as Brisbane, it is not.
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Год назад
@@johnnichol9412 way smaller than even Brisbane Airport and yet not many International flights serve brisbane as of 2022
@paulsz6194
@paulsz6194 Год назад
Yes I Argee, bad fact checking here, along with using pictures of incorrect Political figures in the video (what’s Peter Dutton got to do with this? ) No pictures of Bob Hawke, since it was was him & his Government who earmarked Badgerys Creek for Sydney’s Airport. But hey, what do you expect from a Pom with less than 2K subscribers?. 🤣🤣
@paulsz6194
@paulsz6194 Год назад
@@electro_sykes and they only just opened a 2nd runway!
@speculationsperceived
@speculationsperceived Год назад
What's exactly wrong with the metro? As of now, the metro ends at St Marys, which has a direct train link to the CBD (where most visitors would be headed). Cannot see an issue with this.
@TheGreatLordDufus
@TheGreatLordDufus Год назад
When it is built, the metro is a 23km line to St Marys. That's not exactly close. In the first few years, no rail connection. And then is not integrated into the terminal, though quite close. Depending on take-up by airlines, a "Skybus" type operation might suffice early on (after all, Melbourne Tullamarine only has buses because Australia is not good at transport away from immediate CBD surrounds). To service much of the area this airport is supposed to serve it will have to. For Penrith and Paramatta, once at St Marys not so bad. For Liverpool or Campbelltown, its still a couple more changes and a slog with luggage (rapid bus is planned for some of that section). If the idea is to catch a lot of the traffic from western residents that otherwise have to clog roads and rail into Kingsford-Smith easy connections from those hubs are needed. 3-4 hubs collectively making up roughly a Brisbane sized catchment. Without the demand from outside the area, as you rightly say most visitors to Sydney will want to go the CBD, and Kingsford-Smith. The new airport is probably going to cater more for residents than outsiders visiting, but the lack of curfew adds some more timeslots too.
@williampackman9821
@williampackman9821 Год назад
It’s a very real issue , do you realise how long it takes to get from St Marys to the city or even to Parramatta , forever. Even the alternative to take a metro from the airport to St Marys , ordinary train to Westmead and then on the new western metro to the city would take forever and require 2 changes. The metro from the airport should have been taken to say , Blacktown and join an extended western metro or to the under construction metro at Bankstown , common sense I would think.
@speculationsperceived
@speculationsperceived Год назад
@@williampackman9821 well, I'm guessing you haven't been to many other cities to see that this solution is much better than most US cities, for that matter. Even comparing European cities, Oslo and Stockholm have airports over 1.5 hours away - a pain if you have luggage.
@brianmorris8045
@brianmorris8045 Год назад
There's always people want something to fail, and probably those with no vision whatsoever. Total luddites. Yes, projects like the new airport, and the new rail links, will cost a lot of money over the long run. But the benefits will eventually outweigh the negaitive side over time.
@artistjoh
@artistjoh Год назад
Every large project has problems, and often expensive solutions. This is a much better airport option than places like Auckland that put the airport way out in the countryside with a long journey to the city. There will be problems. They will be fixed. It is amazing how fast it is getting built. I think the 2026 date is ambitious, but it will be here at some point and when it opens it will spark huge development all around it. It will be popular as a way of avoiding the curfew at Kingsford Smith.
@user-tm4bi1nl4q
@user-tm4bi1nl4q Год назад
So many errors in this video unfortunately!
@williampower6534
@williampower6534 9 месяцев назад
The site was earmarked for the second airport by the NSW Department of Planning back in the late 1960s. Until recently the airline lobby blocked the project from being built to force the constant expansion of Kingsford Smith Airport. When KSA was privatised the monopoly operators price gouged airport users to an extent that the airline lobby allowed the building of Western Sydney Airport to go ahead.
@freelanceopportunist559
@freelanceopportunist559 Год назад
LOL "curfew free" I guarantee, when those planes start taking off and landing in that area- not far from the foot of the mountains- which will give those jet engine decibels something to bounce off and echo over Western Sydney. It'll impact everyone west of Kingsford Smith.
@Spacemonkeymojo
@Spacemonkeymojo 10 месяцев назад
I feel sorry for everyone who bought a property in Western Sydney.
@ianmorris7485
@ianmorris7485 Год назад
I would be more concerned about Multiplex being the builder. They are no exactly renowned in bringing megaprojects to completion on time and under budget. My biggest issue with Western Sydney International is how long before the airport gets hemmed in by industrial development like Kingsford Smith and Perth Airport, amongst others. Given the cost of the airport and all the new infrastructure proposed, it would probably have been cheaper just to buy up the property around the existing airport and do a complete redevelopment of the rabbit warren of current terminals and probably ask Qantas to kindly move their maintenance facility somewhere else that was less busy.
@kimriley5655
@kimriley5655 Год назад
The major Flaw in this western Sydney Airport is . In the 1980's the flight paths were not confirmed. NOISE was an issue ,The peoples choice then was not Badgery's creek. But Politicians conveniently have Not talked about this now, to fast tracked project. Runways built, Terminal on the way, Contracts for the useless Short shuttle metro line and toll way connections developed. So this site will impact the greatest number of Western Sydney residents with aircraft having to take off and land Mainly OVERNIGHT. To make international connections in SIN,KL and HNK So, Urban growth Land use planning ignored the Flight paths So this was not factored into the massive new suburbs where 1/3 of Sydney's population with be subject to aircraft noise 24/7.
@TenOrbital
@TenOrbital Год назад
Penrith is pronounced with emphasis on the first syllable in Australia (PEN-r’th).
@alanblair88
@alanblair88 Год назад
not to be confused with Pen-RITH in the Lake District, where Withnail visited his uncle Monty.
@nolesy34
@nolesy34 Год назад
@3:42 aussie airport, Shows American currency.... Riiiiiiight 👌
@AliBaba-ds3cj
@AliBaba-ds3cj Год назад
CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE NEW AIRPORT COMPLETED❤❤❤
@csc3696
@csc3696 Год назад
2060😅🤣🤣🤣
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Год назад
@@csc3696 2100
@fungj4126
@fungj4126 Год назад
don't worry about others comments, they are either from Melbourne or Brisbane
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Год назад
@@fungj4126 Bro, imagine living in Brisbane. It is literally a wasteland of Urban Sprawl.
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Год назад
@@fungj4126 Bro, imagine living in Brisbane. It is a sprawling wasteland. The Queensland State Capital is just a bloody joke. God, if you thought Sydney, Melbourne or Perth is bad. You clearly haven't lived in the Shit tip of Brisbane.
@rc70ys
@rc70ys Год назад
What a load of crock Build huge fuel tanks have trucks transport and fill tanks over night and not during peak times This airport IS WHAT THE WEST NEEDS
@douglachman7330
@douglachman7330 Год назад
Why no mention that there are many local workers nearby that do not want to commute across Sydney to work. Also enabling transport efficiency of air, road and rail for freight, the workforce and travellers means productivity across multiple viewpoints. I suppose providing jobs and economic value is not relevant to some critics. Get real, please we dont need such biased commentary there is too much in society already.
@edstar83
@edstar83 Год назад
What about the millions of people who will be affected by a 24/7 flight path noise and pollution?
@Spacemonkeymojo
@Spacemonkeymojo 8 месяцев назад
@@edstar83People don't seem to care about that. The general vibe is that Western Sydney doesn't seem to matter, so they can all put up with an airport and the noise out there. IMO it's a completely stupid place to have an international airport, as if tourists are going to want to fly there then commute all the way to the city, but Sydney doesn't seem to have many suitable places to build an airport due to the topography. I actually think the noise tool is probably bs and that the real world noise will be a lot worse than the tool indicates, because again, Western Sydney doesn't matter (sarcasm obviously).
@rhodes1948
@rhodes1948 Год назад
This is a rubbish beat up
@JJ-mc8lu
@JJ-mc8lu Год назад
The time to get to this airport will be longer than your trip to Europe. It really is in the middle of nowhere! It will service the cheap bucket airlines which means the travelers coming through here will not spend money and will try and transit as soon as possible to the CBD. I will use Kingsford Smith!
@kenoliver8913
@kenoliver8913 4 месяца назад
Complete crap. More than half the people in Sydney live closer to the new airport than to Kingsford Smith. Dude, the centre of population of Sydney is just west of Parramatta - not all of us live in Bondi.
@sd30001
@sd30001 Год назад
I wonder how long before they selloff the surrounding land to companies wanting air transportation. Then selling off surrounding land to housing developers for employees to live closer. 🤔 Then introducing flight path curfews… 😂
@edstar83
@edstar83 Год назад
Millions of people will be affected by the flight paths as soon as it opens.
@GMCShazamataz
@GMCShazamataz Месяц назад
Could you imagine a family of tourists with large baggage and kids to keep in check trying to catch a bus to there final destination. Could you imagine a group of elderly travellers walking 500m to 1000m or more from there plane to catch a train. Could you imagine a tourist that landed at Western Sydney Airport catching 3 trains to link with a connecting flight at Kingsford Smith Airport or better yet a bus on the M5 and M5 at 7am. Could you imagine trying to get to Western Sydney Airport from Campbelltown by train. 4 trains that is and 3hours plus travel time plus waiting 3 hours for a flight. The government couldn't plan to turn a tap on. It was $8Bil then $11Bil, What is the actual cost to tax payers? Incomplete rail, no sustainable fuel supply, no accommodation nearby for the volume of travellers and flight crews, no public transport even planned. What an absolute joke.
@angusclan1
@angusclan1 7 месяцев назад
Roads are getting built and a lot of mega factories are getting built to accommodate the ever increasing demand from supplier chains as well as a lot of companies moving out that way.
@angusclan1
@angusclan1 7 месяцев назад
Airport has been ear marked for that area for over 20 years
@margaretvassallo5015
@margaretvassallo5015 Год назад
The transport should meet up with the Campbelltown line so you get from one airport to the other
@rileyeyeyy
@rileyeyeyy Год назад
That would help the MacArthur region a lot
@ailouros6669
@ailouros6669 Год назад
It will, at Glenfield station. That Leppington line will be extended to the airport and then from there on to St Mary's
@victorsvoice7978
@victorsvoice7978 5 месяцев назад
The Federal government has pulled its funding for the road infrastructure to the new airport. The State can't afford to build the roads without that funding. How will the road links get built? By a massive new toll road for 100 years.
@johnmoretti122
@johnmoretti122 Год назад
Badgery Creek had been designated for the second airport since the mid 70s, never thought it would get started until the LIBs found a way to get some money for their mates ($10M block of land sold for $30M - well done you crooks) But at least they did start the thing
@peterreay1373
@peterreay1373 9 месяцев назад
Pollution will shut it down most days - due to thermal inversions - creating pollution locked in from all over Sydney with Western Sydney pollutions of Industrial Economy reliance. LNP FAILURE as USUAL=Business as usual.
@Hkchinese888
@Hkchinese888 Год назад
Everything in Sydney is expensive
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Год назад
can't we just encourage more airlines to fly to Melbourne and Brisbane? Brisbane in particular because we have plenty of spare capacity and connecting flights to Sydney & Melbourne.
@RemReport
@RemReport Год назад
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@bhutchison06
@bhutchison06 Год назад
Is that a melodramatic clickbait video too? Or do you try and be factual.
@MrHaydenhoang
@MrHaydenhoang Год назад
Where should you built the second airport than? Tell me! Kingsford Smith will definitely reach its capacity soon!
@edstar83
@edstar83 Год назад
Next to where you live
@MrCzech78
@MrCzech78 Год назад
Need a high speed train corridors. Bradfield to Sydney CBD Bradfield to Canberra Bradfield to Wollongong Bradfield to Newcastle Bradfield to Bathurst These are just few backbone lines. The train’s speed should be around 300km/h to be efficient Metro is too slow and only efficient within reasonable distance say 8-15 km’s. Anything further than that needs limited stops suburban trains.
@rosscosan6647
@rosscosan6647 4 месяца назад
Fuel by daily trucks and no transport ready in time ! … how friggin stupid and embarrassing can it be .
@rosscosan6647
@rosscosan6647 4 месяца назад
2050 for a 2nd Runway….. 😂😂😂 Typical of Australia ! Imagine the cost of building then.
@tacitdionysus3220
@tacitdionysus3220 Год назад
So much of this clip is outdated and just plain wrong. The pipeline issue in particular is complete rubbish. I won't say any more. Good to see so many commenting below have more sense than to believe it.
@ianneill1400
@ianneill1400 Год назад
What has flooding got to do with the project? Metro is well underway!
@pdp11dec
@pdp11dec Год назад
funny how they built a multi billion dollar airport but totally forgot about the fact that planes need fuel to fly
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Год назад
They could produce jet fuel from renewable energy. We have the Technology, we just need the research.
@lmlmd2714
@lmlmd2714 Год назад
It's all about politics (both state and federal). When the plan first got the go-ahead, the Abbott government was hell bent on making *everything* a "culture-war" issue, and point blank refused to provide any funds for non-road ground infrasturcture links to the airport, even though the Baird govt in NSW was also Liberal (in the Aussie sense - i.e. right wing Conservative, the same party as Abbott) and was begging for a rail link. The pipeline just got caught in it as a by-product of that clusterduck. The airport is desperately needed, as Kingsford Smith is completely hemmed in, and the land it occupies could be much better used if it were to eventually be completed replaced by Badgery's Creek, so it's unfair to say Badgery's is a white elephant, but is absolutely has been appallingly managed.
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Год назад
@@lmlmd2714 they said they would only fund road based projects because the liberials fedral government hate public transport and prefer cars. Should the LNP of being elected for Queensland in 2020, Brisbanes Rail system would have been slashed and one of thes lines would have even been closed.
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Год назад
It's going to end up like Melbourne Avalon in my opinion. Only a few domestic flights a day and large empty terminal
@Agent44996
@Agent44996 Год назад
No. The key difference is: Avalon is very far away from Melbourne, and is much closer to Geelong, which has a very small population compared to Melbourne. It is mainly used as a side airport for budget carriers like Jetstar and (previously) Air Asia. Whereas Western Sydney Airport will primarily serve Western Sydney, but has been designed to eventually replace Kingsford Smith Airport. Western Sydney has a population of over 1 million, and if it were to be its own city, would be the fourth largest in Australia. And a very high majority of the Western Sydney population are people of different nationalities, and it contains many diasporas. This has big potential for international carriers, especially the Middle Eastern, Vietnamese, and Indian carriers. In fact, WSA is in talks with up to around 60 international carriers who are interested in flying to WSA when it opens. And alongside that, there will definitely be a domestic flight market for people who would rather a conveniently local airport rather than the hassle or Kingsford Smith. So there you go. I think WSA will be quite successful.
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Год назад
@@Agent44996 They screwed up with the Metro to the Western Sydney Airport. SKYBUS is just lovin' the look of things at the moment. Hooray, 2 hours to get into the CBD, including changing trains twice, or just 1 hour if you take SKYBUS. Not to mention the massive car parks. Again, Australia copying America and trying to become more dependant on Cars and Eliminate most Public Transport.
@Agent44996
@Agent44996 Год назад
@@electro_sykes Yep that’s the one thing I do agree that the failed on. They really need to link the metro to Tallawong from St Mary’s via Marsden Park and Schofields. There are already plans to extend it down to Glenfield via Leppington by upgrading the Leppington line to metro. And there also needs to be a metro link to Paramatta where it should link up with Sydney Metro West. Until all that is done, Skybus is going to have a great time.
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Год назад
@@Agent44996 If I was building the Sydney Metro, I would have built it as a circular line from central, through to Bankstown, then Glenfield, Lexington, up to Western Sydney Airport, St Marys, Scholfield's, Tallawong, Epping, Chatswood, then under the harbour into the Sydney CBD and back to Central. Meanwhile, under my plan, the Sydney Metro west would run across from Westmead, via Parramatta and Olympic park, to Martin Place, where it would then take over the Eastern Suburbs line to Bondi Junction, before then extending north under the harbour to Manly and then emerging to the surface to serve the Northern Beaches.
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Год назад
@@Agent44996 Agreed. Considering that Melbourne Airport should be getting a rail link before 2030, Western Sydney Airport to Sydney CBD via Parramatta is gonna become Skybus Flagship route
@johntiller4327
@johntiller4327 Год назад
If they lift the curfew on mascot there no need for for this. No political party have the guts to lift the curfew so this is for the benefit of the sitting member of mascot. Grubs
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Год назад
Or it would just become a underutilised airport with just a few domestic flights per day
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Год назад
When this is done, I reckon they are probably gonna have mostly all International flights move here and turn the current airport into a Domestic Airport. I don't like the plans for the Metro, though, as people will just have to change Trains at St Marys. They should've built an Airport Express Train service via Parramatta instead.
@akryquityt5557
@akryquityt5557 Год назад
They’re not making Sydney Kingsford airport a domestic airport 😂😂
@lmlmd2714
@lmlmd2714 Год назад
I suspect the long-term plan will be (eventually) to close Kingsford Smith. Airports within inner suburbs are a huge pollution and congestion issue, and the land it sits on is insanely valuable. Splitting international and domestics over two airports nearly 50km apart and with no direct link between them will be *hugely* unpopular with Qantas and VA, who have significant amounts of domestic/int'l transit traffic through the airport, and *very* unpopular with the public too. There's plenty of space out at Badgery's Creek to build 3 or 4 runways (two full length runways for big jets, and two shorter ones for A320/737 narrowbodies would be ideal) and terminals so once they finally sort out decent transit and ground infrastructure and get the place scaled up, it'll make sense to begin winding down Kingsford Smith. I think they'll need to be a heavy-rail line from St. Marys. This will allow a fast train services from both Parramatta and the CBD direct to the airport using the intercity (fast) tracks, and potentially also from Wollongong via the triangle at Sydnenham and the metropolitan freight line between Campsie and Lidcombe, with some upgrades puts in place.
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Год назад
@@lmlmd2714 I think it's similar to the London Heathrow Problem in some cases. The Western Sydney Airport will just end up being another Gatwick.
@vintageradio3404
@vintageradio3404 Год назад
There are plans to link the metro stub at St Marys to Sydney Metro West at Westmead.
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Год назад
@@vintageradio3404 They never think this through. Man, Skybus will defintely make a profit
@fungj4126
@fungj4126 Год назад
Delay caused by pandemic isn't connected to logistical nightmare
@guyh9992
@guyh9992 Год назад
Melbourne still doesn't have a rail link and as for the fuel problem it would apply to any new airport built anywhere in the world. The big advantage of the new airport is that there will be no curfew between 11pm and 6am. International flights currently cannot be scheduled for night arrivals in case there is a two or three hour delay. Large numbers of overnight flights also arrive shortly after 6am putting strain on the infrastructure. There is nothing worse than waiting for immigration and customs then taking a train full of commuters into the CBD during the morning peak hour.
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Год назад
I think in 2050, they might close kingsford smith and turn it into high rise devolpment, shopping precints, a stadium and park space.
@Spacemonkeymojo
@Spacemonkeymojo 8 месяцев назад
That advantage of 24 hour operation works for everyone except people who you know, actually live in Western Sydney and want to sleep. But we all know Western Sydney residents don't matter.
@xr6lad
@xr6lad Год назад
Jesus you lost me by minute 2 with the real bad stock photos and videos largely irrelevant plus the previous government photos (we’ve had a new government since early 2022). That’s RU-vid creators for you.
@robertstaas9314
@robertstaas9314 8 месяцев назад
Why are you illustrating American dollars in your presentation?
@StEaLtHMel0n
@StEaLtHMel0n Год назад
This is poorly researched and thought out.
@ellisonketovore
@ellisonketovore Год назад
Hmm, can anyone say 'Mirabel'?
@janmikhailgaid4562
@janmikhailgaid4562 Год назад
Or even "Narita"?
@colinmarshall4446
@colinmarshall4446 Год назад
Nobody seems to worry about the massive fog problem
@Agent44996
@Agent44996 Год назад
That’s exactly why the runway being built at WSA is specifically designed to operate during fog. It will be the only airport in Sydney with a CAT III-B landing system, which allows planes to continue to safely operate at the airport in fog.
@lmlmd2714
@lmlmd2714 Год назад
@@johnnichol9412 I think building at Goulburn would be taking term "Western Sydney" to a whole new level.
@r1learner178
@r1learner178 Год назад
@@johnnichol9412 Wilton was the smartest location, had a freeway going right there, the train line isn't too far away and it is between Sydney and Wollongong.
@xr6lad
@xr6lad Год назад
@@r1learner178 and who the den would want to travel to Wilton? And I can bet no airline would want to move. You seriously have to be joking.
@r1learner178
@r1learner178 Год назад
@@xr6lad Well it was a choice between Wilton and Badgerys Creek when they first started talking about it so I guess a lot of people would.
@AidosTheMan
@AidosTheMan Год назад
Takes 2hrs to get to the actual city 💀
@adamknight5089
@adamknight5089 Год назад
For all the people that live in Western Sydney, it's not a problem. Easties can stick to their old airport thanks.
@AidosTheMan
@AidosTheMan Год назад
@@adamknight5089 pretty sure this airport is to service tourism into Sydney , not the area 💀
@adamknight5089
@adamknight5089 Год назад
@@AidosTheMan According to who?
@AidosTheMan
@AidosTheMan Год назад
@@adamknight5089 according to every source, it's too overtake the current airport
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Год назад
@@AidosTheMan Western sydney is a dodgy area.
@r1learner178
@r1learner178 Год назад
This incompetence is normal for Australia look how many housing developments have been built with no infrastructure like roads. They wait until it is finished, people complain about it for years, the Government says it can't afford to do anything yet and eventually many years later they finally build something that will be too little to late, like the M4, then they will screw everyone around for a few more years adding on what should have been done in the first place and then when it is finally done it is not enough because they have kept on expanding new developments. And we end up back at the beginning again. The place is run by idiots.
@NS-mz8gq
@NS-mz8gq 5 месяцев назад
Totally wrong it will become the number one airport
@edes01
@edes01 Год назад
The new airport in Sydney is going to be awful just like Avalon it is way too far from the CBD. If we ran Mascot more efficiently we wouldn’t need another airport for decades. It’s the same size as Heathrow and they’re able to handle significantly more air movements per annum.
@IconOTS
@IconOTS Год назад
Well for the airport to operate 24/7 you need to be far away from major housing regions to be able to achieve that otherwise you need to make curfews so people can sleep. Kingsford is failing in my opinion mainly because it is really close to major housing and can not operate 24 hours a day cause people need sleep, Kingsford if cramped in some places and having a new airport can split the airports in two sections, WSA can be only domestic or international or Kingsford can be domestic or international, of course Kingsford is staying but I think WSA will overtake Kingsford at some point.
@edes01
@edes01 Год назад
@@IconOTS the new airport is surrounded by new housing estates. Those people aren’t going to get a curfew to sleep.
@jxswu3224
@jxswu3224 Год назад
Majority of the big airports in the airport are in the middle of no where, in Seoul Korea Incheon airport is legit on another island 90 minutes away from cbd , in shanghai Pudong international is like at least 50km away from most ppl live, similar with Taoyuan in Taiwan
@Hi_its_Kartik
@Hi_its_Kartik Год назад
@@jxswu3224 same with Osaka (Kansai)
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Год назад
why not just build a new airport out on an island.
@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc
@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc 11 месяцев назад
Load of.
@peterhoz
@peterhoz Год назад
Have you seen how far the metro station is from the terminal? It should be un der it! PLUS it is simply a shuttle from St Marys, and will remain that way until at least the 2050s. It should have been built from Tallawong through to Macarthur, with a connection/extension from Luddenham, from day 1 of opening. Car centric Sydney planning yet again. White elephant indeed. It's Sydney's Avalon plus freight services. And, without a freight rail line, all that frieght has to move my truck too. Dumb.
@telaandias3531
@telaandias3531 Год назад
It’s because lots of the land between the airport and st Mary’s is government defence land that is cheaper to build on
@nolesy34
@nolesy34 Год назад
How can you put a airport terminal under the metro, what like a undercover hangar that lets out planes like some sort of human wasp nest.. i suppose the tarmac will be cooler so there is that
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Год назад
Hello, they are working for the car rental companies.
@nolesy34
@nolesy34 Год назад
@@electro_sykes hello budget car rentals i need a plane
@Agent44996
@Agent44996 Год назад
The reason the metro terminal is “so far” from the terminal is called future-proofing. When the airport is eventually expanded, it will be mirrored, so another terminal and runway will be built on the other side. When that happens the metro station will then be snug in the middle of both terminals. If the metro station was to be under the first terminal, it would be a very long walk for people from the other terminal when it’s built…
@davesboatingfishinggaming
@davesboatingfishinggaming Год назад
Does not surprise me from a liberal state government,
@artistjoh
@artistjoh Год назад
I agree that there would be no problems with airport construction under a Labor government, because under Labour it would never get started. It was successive Labor governments that procrastinated for 30 years allowing overcrowding to grow at Mascot as they pandered to the NIMBY crowd.
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