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I’m proud to be your son. You’re the only dad that’s stuck around.

i think what happened to Lilly is that she was really funny/good with her specific catered audience and she thought it would work with everyone else and when it didn't she kind of retaliated instead of being like "well my specific catered audience loves me and that's good enough", which a lot of creators failed to do. if you branch out and fuck up it's not the end of the world as long as you didn't derail your entire following in the fall

David Dobriks show just highlighted how his editing was the major strength of his vlogs because when it was made and edited by discovery they seemed like the most boring vapid group of friends ever imo Edit: commented too soon you essentially say this 🤷🏻‍♀️

watching him struggle in a random indian hostel room with its dingy lighting is absolutely hilarious to me

This isn't about the video, but I just wanted to say real quick. I've really enjoyed watching Pinley's transformation from a faceless cardboard box, to fully injecting himself into the branding and content. The videos, imo, are much better now that he is on camera, and makes longer, more in depth videos. I think it was really the right move career wise to make this shift, scary as I'm sure it was. Sidenote: holy christ are his thumbnails good now. Idk if he makes them or has someone do it for him, but ever since the change, they are fan friggin tastic.

Who would have thought Guava would actually produce a competent and enjoyable cartoon. Dude's found his calling

I don't remember what comedian said it, but they basically said that when you do comedy everyone wants to know if you can do other things, like act. Which he said was akin to asking a chef if they can farm. I think it's the same with youtubers. As soon as they get successful people ask 'okay, so can you do television? movies? can you do other things beyond the thing you already do well?'

Not a Guava Juice person and I don’t know shit about the show but I have to admit, the art style is kind of adorable

I love anticipating what Orr's next outfit+scene change will be. It's a small treat every ~5-10 minutes.

I am in no way a fan of guava juice but I ended up a casual fan of the animated show because my cousin is in it and i like watching her work. It actually has potential to be decent if the writing was better and his energy makes him a surprisingly great voice actor for this style of cartoon.

Felt that film school comment. Didn't get accepted and went to a technical school for media studies. I have a few friends that went to film school and it really seems like a lot of it is just making those connections which is a huge shame because it's like a weird institutional barrier that stops people from having those key networking opportunities.

i was so obsessed with liza koshy in middle school i thought she was peak humor

How is David Dobriks throat not torn up from all that forced laughing 😭😭

The Lily Singh mask sketch makes me want to get un-vaccinated. I'm sad now.

hearing “onma island is buried a treasure chest” again set off my fight or flight instincts

I'm not sure if anyone remembers this but 'Agents of secret stuff' by Ryan Higa and 'Videogame Highschool' by Rocketjump are the best examples of good shows/movies done by RU-vidrs mainly because they were a good mix of both online and traditional media and had the strengths of both, with the humour and references of the former and the production value and character arcs of the latter.

Lily Singh's stand up is basically Sweet Dee from that one episode of "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" where she gets popular and her jokes are deliberately written to parody hackey comedians. Racial humour, mugging for the camera, silly noises, etc...

I was pleasantly surprised by Guava Juice's animated cartoon, it looked like something I would see on TV, and the voice acting is actually really good.

i really love your emerging style of video essay, snappy yet thorough and to the point, and the way you punctuate the end of an argument w a well timed joke. the jazz in the background! keep up the great work!!

I worked for a bit on the Guava juice show. Didn't even know what a Guava juice is until I saw this video. That show is meticulously made with its bible and the asset layout in its rigs and everything. Never would have thought it would be produced by some youtuber, not from Disney or Warner or anything else for that matter

Liza's shows sounds so similar to smiling friends. Crazy how two youtubers can take the same concept and have wildly different outcomes

i don’t know why but i love how your camera is always super offset and you’re sometimes just in the very bottom of the frame i can’t explain it i just think it’s great

I'm from a family of several teachers, and teach kids age 5-12, and wanted to leave some feedback about the Guava Juice show from an educator's POV! The content overall isn't educational, but based on humor style, I doubt this was a show intended for an early childhood demographic, which tend to be the more educational shows - I don't have a good reference for shows outside of the US, because the only early education content I watched when young was PBS, but this would be shows like Sesame Street, Zaboomafoo/Wild Kratts, Berenstein Bears, or Octonauts. These kind of shows are generally aimed towards children under 6-7, and while I'm sure Roi does have viewership in that ages, his content in generall skews more towards late elementary to early middle school - the focus on gross-out humor is a huge hit for a lot of kids that age(stuff like the pee - it would just be potty humor to them). The Dora skit in particular is a good example of this - it is a rebellious feeling way for kids to make fun of younger kids shows as they grow older and get embarassed by what they used to like. You can see a similar phenomenon in kid's changing songs from kids shows, like if you've ever heard kids change the Barney 'I Love you, You Love Me' song to include hatred instead and killing Barney. It's pretty common at that age, especially with a lot of young boys! Another good sign of the age demographic here is the language used - villains make threats to the child characters, and words like 'butt' and 'fart' are used, whereas a younger show would be likely to substitute 'bum/bottom' and 'toot' or exclude the language entirely. For the older demographic this humor skews to, I honestly think it ends up doing pretty well from what you've shown. The pepper stuff might seem like an allusion to drugs, but to be honest, that kind of humor is pretty common for kids shows, because kids replicate adult behaviors - children will pretend to be inebriated off of mundane substances like milk. It's just a play-pretend thing for them! I think this show is helped a lot by it's additional writing staff - Roi himself is actually only credited as a writer on 4 episodes, including the pilot you watched, and I'm going to guess that his involvement is what gave the show the 'lol random XD' element in that episode. There's a pretty fine line between 2010s random humor and the actual humor kids enjoy, which is silliness - and the primary factor for what kids find silly is expectation subversion! I think that Roi might just not be able to easily discern the difference, because he doesn't work directly with kids, while the team behind the show is all decently experienced in kids animation. They've got a LOT more experience! The creators of the show actually previously worked on a Canadian animated show called Wishfart, which has a pretty similar set-up. It has a similar silly hijinks energy, and also stars a male protagonist, with a male nonhuman and female human slightly-lesser protagonists beside him as the other co-stars. The director also has a extensive credit list, including some pretty big names like Slugterra, Stormhawks, and the TV tie-in show for Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs (also all aimed towards older kids). I will say that something to note about kids content is how easily children can replicate the onscreen behaviors. It's standard broadcasting practice for children's networks not to include any dangerous behavior that children can easily replicate - so shooting yourself from a cannon or using a laser gun would be okay, but stuff like not wearing a bike helmet or not wearing a seatbelt is a hard no-go. Eating ghost peppers is an example of something that I /could/ see on a syndicated show, but it also feels a little bit dangerous, as most children could actually be injured if they tried that, and it is possible for them to do, especially being presented as a fun adventure. I might be being oversensitive on this, though - I do work with 5-6 year olds as well, so I might be biased on the safety thing! Overall, this actually seems like a pretty good kids show! The content is innoffensive, and from what I've seen on parent review sites, it generally stays very appropriate, with specific episodes including messages like people acting out because they're hurt, trying new things, and teamwork to problem-solve instead of finding blame. These are great messages for older kids, and based on the style of storytelling, it seems to be done in a way that won't feel condescending to kids - if you make it too obvious, a lot of kids will feel like they're being treated as babies and not want to listen. Lack of fight scenes means parents don't have to worry about replicatable violence (and promotes talking problems out instead of fighting), and the main two characters are both POC, which many kids wouldn't be able to see elsewhere! I also think it's fantastic that the Jenny is shown as being as chaotic and fearless as Roi - I know a lot of parents who would be really happy that their kids, especially daughters, have a female peer role model in the show like that. I hope this is some helpful insight!

Orr, i know you probably won't read this, but you are one of the best youtubers on this app rn. Every other day i find myself rewatching your videos and they never get old. All I want to say is thanks for uploading and making my day slightly better.

Very poetic to critique the cinematography of the episode while looking like you’re in a hostage ransom video. Tortured by inexistent jokes, rip Orr.

This was 41 minutes and 49 seconds of absolute mess and I loved every second of it

I’m SHOCKED that the Guava Juice cartoon doesn’t look as fucking terrible as I expected it would. It kinda looks…pretty good?? (for a Gravity Falls ripoff)

The guava juice animation reminded me of an episode of teen titans go titled 'the spice game' where they eat a bunch of chillies and they become addicted to eating chillies.

That jiggling jungle video made me feel things I never have wanted to feel, I can't describe it, either fear, disgust, terror, or all of the above

Mark my words, Pinely will be a full-on video essayist and/or documentarian within a few years. (Not that it's a bad thing lol, inject that stuff into my veins)

WELCOME BACK PINELY WE MISSED YOU ❤️

I used to find Liza's stuff really funny...I feel horrible that the old videos still almost got a chuckle out of me...

Man even MY neck hurt watching you in the tub lol, we appreciate all the effort you put in your backgrounds!

Your audio editing is insane, big fan of your music/sound usage. It works so well with your comedy

it seems to me that the "liza on demand" show is just a bleak copy of "unbreakable kimmy schmidt". kimmy did a bunch of jobs for "taskrabbit" and that made for short gags while showing kimmy navigating a whole new world and driving the over hanging story forward. i have not watched liza's show, so my comparison may not be accurate, but every clip of the show that i have seen, both in this video and before, has just given me the feeling of "i've seen this before, and it was done better then", the show doesn't seem to bring anything new to the table and doesn't give me, someone from outside liza's regular audience, a reason to continue watching. now is it an unfair comparison putting a youtube premium series against a netflix series created by tina fey and robert carlock? sure. but the similarities shouldn't be overlooked just because they originated from different backgrounds. if someone has seen liza's show or know more about it, feel free to correct me. but this is my impression as someone who has seen one of the shows but not the other.

The Animation In The Gauva Juice Show Is Like.. Way Too Good..

The writing and humour is definitely for kids but I actually love the Guava Juice cartoon art style!! There’s so many little fun things in the background like pictures on the wall and items on the shop shelves that only show up for a few seconds. So much effort has obviously been put into those small things which might not seem like a big deal but a lot of animation today tries to get away without doing it for monetary reasons (eg. The new Addams Family films) and end up just… looking boring. Even if you don’t find it funny, at least this carton looks great and actually fun! (I’m also surprisingly impressed by Roi’s voice acting 😁)

That Lilly Singh mask bit has caused permanent damage to me on an existential level.

Pinely sir. Dont feel bad about the vod channel. You gained a new avid watcher. Im tearing through your whole portfolio. You definitely gained alot even if that guy stole your video like that

those aren't the actual wall colors in the hostel that's just cosmo and wanda

The "Onma island is buried a treasure chest" joke, with the proud follow up dance and makes me laugh out loud every time.

Good to see you back. Hope your health concerns are being taken care of.

Love to you Pinely, greetings from Kaliningrad, Russia, things haven't been pleasant since that harsh invasion to Ukraine

The song that played during Lilly Singh's Mask skit actually seem to amplify how much of a trainwreck the whole thing was. The cartoon aesthetic the skit was trying to replicate doesn't really work without the exagerrated cartoonish cgi the movie had. Even if the movie's cgi is quite old compared to today's standards, it was part of its charm.

For the record: Catman is in fact a DC character. He's a villain/anti-villain most recently associated with the Secret Six. He's also a Batman-associated character. That means that that joke is not even a joke. It's... nothing.

Your point at 19:18 totally applies to the writing on she-hulk, or heck, even the new saint's row game. It feels like modern writing really suffers from an inability to make salient societal critiques in a creative or subtle way. They just sorta.. blurt it out

I legitimately wasn't expecting to see something as visually pleasing and competent from anything covered in this video as that Guava Juice cartoon, especially from Guava himself. It's actually really nice to see!

I kinda like the Cosmo and Wanda room vibes Edit: the fact that catman, a character from fairy odd parents, was mentioned made me pretty happy

I don't want to sound old but I miss the old days when RU-vidrs put more effort to their content and the content felt natural... Now it feels corporate.

40:40 “do we really need a documentary on David Dobrik’s life? …the guy who constantly documents his life?” Man that made me laugh out loud, These little observations are really excellent, such a small point but so funny and really gets to the heart of the issue

Man I'm so glad I stumbled onto.your existance right before you left the box. Honestly one of the funniest dudes on RU-vid. And all the while supplying a consistantly insightful commentary.

0:06 why guava juice 😭

They definitely should have done a discovery channel with Michael Reeves. Not a controversial guy like David Dobrik

This reminds me of that Mitch Hedberg bit about comedians getting jobs in acting/screenwriting. It's like walking up to a chef and saying, "great food, can you farm?" Like, it's cool for youtubers to want to try other fields out, and some of them do great, but it IS kind of weird that we consider it a natural progression between very different skillsets.

Legitimately laughed at the Onma joke, gdi

thank god liza koshy didn't have access to my cat when she had cancer

So you're traveling around? It also seems like you've been sick so I hope you're feeling better! It's always fascinating to watch reviewers talk about all these creators I've never even heard of until people like you review them or they get into giant drama lol. Usually I have a good tolerence for gross out humor but those Guava Juice clips you played made me feel gross lol. Ironic that his cartoon series is the most tolerable and decent out of all the other RU-vidr shows, the animation seems to be above average quality and the art style is kinda cute, hopefully it improves over time.

The Guava Juice cartoon actually looks really cute, I'm pleasantly surprised

I honestly think Lily could've done something similar to that of Carol Burnett in terms of interacting with the audience. She seems like the type of person that'd be fun to interact with and it would give her show a much cozier feel.

yummy

Next up: Discovery with Pinely? Your vacation sounds a million times more interesting than david dobrik's lol

onma island is buried my heart ♥ Love you buddy always happy to see new content from you

the dangerdoom instrumental was a top tier addition

The Onma joke was such a god tier callback joke, genuinely caught me off guard

28:52 i must admit this joke actually got a laugh out of me. i was surprised to see this somewhat clever of a somewhat joke in this lazy childrens show.

I‘m a bit mad at you that you didn’t make the joke out to be HuMan but instead chose HumanMan.

The fact tha tthe posters behind you are two of my favorite movies from the last 20 years really explains why I agree with so much of what you say

If I was locked in a room without my phone or laptop, and I had to pick one of these four shows to watch to pass the time, I'd probably pick the Guava Juice cartoon. Maybe it's my bias for cartoons and animated media, but that was the only one that looked even remotely entertaining. It's colorful, the animation is pretty good, and the voice acting was solid. Again, I love cartoons and animated media because that's a part of my inner child that I refuse to let go, so maybe I'm slightly biased, but I honestly don't think I could watch any of the other ones for more than 10 minutes max.

from what i understand lilly wasn't given any writing freedom on her late show, all the bits and skits were written by a team and then she had to act them all out. tbh that kinda makes the premise of the show so much worse, but at least she can't be blamed for the jokes being written poorly.

this vid took Pinely above and beyond being just a youtuber

I miss Pinely. Don't get me wrong, Mr. RU-vidr makes good videos too but that cardboard box fella had a completely unique charm to him.

Pinely makes the most entertatiing video essays,

I think with more time and funding Lilly’s late night show could have been way better than it was but the first season was a lot rougher than they had anticipated it being and that’s probably why they didn’t really give it the chance to grow into its own ya know?

I feel like the most common thing that ruins jokes is just bad pacing. Like, the cat batman joke could've been funny, but the extra "catman" line just kills the pacing.

Ah yes, another amazing upload! Hope you’re feeling better, and all is well

Unrelated but the aesthetic and color palettes of Pinley’s setups are *_excellent_* Pinley minutes later: sorry where I am’s ugly af

Yay another video! Really loved the editing in this one. You are getting better and better! Hope you feel well after all those errrr adventures in India.

The Mask is my favorite all time movie ever. - that Mask thing.. the costumes were great… that’s all I can say. She did well on the costume.

I never watched guavajuice didnt know they have an animated series but omg it looks quite good, it could be something from neo nickelodeon tbh, good for him thats great work! animation is hard

Your work and editing in this is unreal. Youre a god pinely

I saw Trash in the Friends font and was about to pull up with some popcorn because thats a spicy take I wanna hear 👀👀👀

lawd bless my soul, this man is so fine

Jesus Pinely be careful, don't want my box boy to die out there

Oh my god the segment of her doing The Mask made me cringe so hard I almost started crying.

Actually, I totally get why the guava juice show would involve a magic bathtub, he was like, the person making "Filling my bathtub with ____" videos.

Pleasantly surprised about the guava juice cartoon after seeing that weird ass clip of him, I was obsessed w wasabi productions when I was a kid and seeing what he ended up doing was weird. Maybe it's just one of those situations where he was getting a bit burned out and not enough people were giving him constructive criticism and boundaries

Rhett and Link's Buddy System is incredible

Liza got her start on vine so it makes sense that her videos reflect that

Here’s the thing.. Catman exists. And he does kinda go around rescuing cats. So the premise of the joke is not only unfunny on its face, but it also isn’t a joke cuz like.. it’s an actual thing.

Honestly the only person I can think of who started on RU-vid and went on to make a successful tv series is Quinta Brunson, but then again i wouldn't call her a youtuber.

"on my island is buried my treasure chest" got me

4:44 I mean wasn’t Liza part of that large contingent of Viners who moved to RU-vid when the platform died?

The first comparison I thought of when I heard about Liza on Demand's plot was The Goodies, the 70s 'live-action-cartoon' Britcom

I have a soft spot for Liza, I knew her in high school. She's a nice person and she's pretty funny. Glad to see her thriving

Lilly singh doing the mask was worse then son of the mask 🤢

omg the kinda late show makes me want to rubber band from perfectly sensible to lizard people.

Looking good Pineboi. The background music was a bit much for my delicate earholes at times.

Guava Juice was a part of Wassabi Productions. Their content was always immature, but that's why I loved it as a kid. But it's insane that Guava Juice hasn't really matured over the years and just creates weird kids content

lily singh is the type of person who’d like the new she hulk show