Danny Gonzalez had a quote that always helps me if I ever find my anxious self genuinely considering some of these insane theories. He made a video about some wild Instagram conspiracies, & the gist of his response was: "If the government didn't want you to find out, why would they make a puzzle for you to solve? Why wouldn't they just... not do that?"
I've asked so many "q" Trump lovers the same questions.. its terrifying how easily manipulated so many Americans are & now they are using their "insider info" to vote.. Absolutely terrifying
My moment of realization was similar. I had just heard a report that a man was found dead and decapitated because "he had a heart attack and his dog must've eaten his head afterwards". The authorities found the head, and the conclusion was "the dog must've thrown it up". When the government tries to hide something, they are NOT subtle with it at all. If something's sketchy, then it'll look sketchy from a mile away. They classify everything when they lie, so when they do things like display a real Saturn V rocket at the Kennedy Space Center for everybody to see, it's pretty safe to say that they actually did fly those things to the moon.
It's very irritating! Why are we all being left out of this global conspiracy?? None of my friends are in it. Clearly, we have clique issues within the tribe.
I think the biggest problem is that a lot of people don't understand what theory means in scientific terms. Science theories are concepts that have been tested heavily, like the theory of gravity or evolution. Both have been proven time and time again, but they're theories because they go through rigorous experimentation and tests. A good amount of people confuse theory and hypothesis, since hypothesis is what they're actually thinking of.
Yup! They don’t know the differences from hypothesis, theory, and law! It’s scary how many uneducated ppl we have in this world in 2022 considering that when I was in school 40+ years ago, we couldn’t research things at the touch of our phones. Part of the problem is parents, they need to be actively teaching their kids how to look things up, what sites are reliable, and which ones aren’t. Too many parents expect that to be the job of teachers, and don’t take accountability for their own kids’ upbringing.
@@SeanShimamoto Great point!! I argue from my personal experience that “authority” is viewed as the only knowledge-bringers. Authority is synonymous with “expert” in many cases too, but this blurs the line between people genuinely educated in their line of work and those who are pushing an agenda. I have older parents despite being a Gen Zer, and I grew up religious whose values are strictly against mine and my identity (anti-gay, anti-abortion etc) - so that put me in a mental loop where I was taught authority is correct but I know that gay people aren’t sinners and they are great people because I know them! I have friends who I love and care for who isn’t these “sexual deviants” my church (and many churches in America) said. So, my own personal experiences are debunking these authority figures who know everything. That put me in a moral crisis lol. I see these conspiracy theories being peddled to kids and most importantly ADULTS preying on their lack of knowledge and putting themselves as the “authority figure” of this knowledge. Cult leaders and conspiracists use the same tactics as many churches here in America and that is: “if you start to doubt, they (devil, antivaxxers etc) won”.
Thank you I literally had someone try to argue with me that there was no evidence backing up the “Out of Africa theory” because it was called a theory 🫥
I make a point to call out what conspiracy nuts call "theories" for what they are: rumors, gossip, lies (of both the "half-truth" & flat out B.S. varieties), & in certain contexts even hearsay! I think more of us should start using phrases like conspiracy rumors & conspiracy gossip instead as it's more accurate AND (as an added bonus) it would be a GREAT way to troll the conspiracy nuts!
I used to think conspiracies were fun and harmless until I realized they encourage distrust in science and discourage critical thinking, it's kinda sad
Why has science been made into a deity. Very many scientists in the modern day have used it for an agenda and why do we blindy trust every one calling themselves a scientist
@@dinoguy163 I find that's The Thing with conspiracies in general. Often times they'll have a grain of truth to them (not all them ofc), such as "you can't trust the gov!!" , the mere concept of the CIA proves that. Then within 5 sentences it goes from "you can't trust the gov" to "the Rothschild's are turning our kids trans with nuclear Russian space lasers!!". Of course it depends on the propagandist speaking as to how well they can traffic in their ideas without being mask off about it.
Loving the anglo-centric takes they make. "Planet is just plane with a t at the end" Well in Finnish 'Earth' is 'maapallo' where 'maa' means land or ground and 'pallo' means ball. Therefore we live on a ball of dirt. Checkmate flat-earthers
My mom is a schizophrenic who does not understand popular trends or technology. When she watches theory videos, she enters each one impressionable and naïve. She believes them wholeheartedly. This has broken our family apart. I hate conspiracy theories and the vulnerable population they target.
I remember a very old case of like a nurse or something? Who, to convince an antivaxx to get a vaccine (I guess this happened when vaccines for corona started), made up on the spot a conspiracy theory about antivaxxers who made conspiracy theories
Yeah it’s seriously fucked up, I went down a horrible rabbit hole of shit full of poorly disguised antisemitism and ableism which I fully believed because of manic episode.
Nah, a lot of that is just people trying to explain away the realisation that they're probably autistic and nobody can convince me otherwise. Same with "highly sensitive person". Edit: unless they're literally just making it up for attention like some do, but I'm referring to the majority I've encountered who generally seem to genuinely believe it. Like nah mate, look up the diagnostic criteria for autism in women/adults in particular and get back to me on that
@@ChoppedLiver Listen here girlfriend, i feel you on feeling my feels but as an empath i am morally obliged to feel your feels heavier than my own and you shouldn't be ashamed to be you. Sleigh Queen yasss💅
Shane: So if we were living in a simulation then would that mean cats aren't actually real right? His brother: yes Shane: So anything I do or have done to a cat would be okay because it is just a computer program?
27:50 “That’s why when you walk into a room you feel energy” a man believing that the feeling of chemicals in his brain being released in response to him processing new social stimulus/information is actually a glitch in the matrix hive mind is so funny to me. Its like a dog getting scared of its own fart
I love that he doesn't realize constellations are a social construct. We assign meaning to the meaningless, it's what we have done for millennia. We love stories and creating collective understanding. I think that is so cool! But it doesn't mean there is a god/creator who taught our ancestors to hunt or draw lol
@Skyliner actually, stars from the perspective of Earth do look the same (as in the same patterns) for thousands of years. They would just have been shifted over (since our sky appears to shift over time). That’s also why zodiacs no longer line up with our birthdays in the sky at the same time.
It’s like the pyramid aliens thing. They think of our ancestors as dumb barbarians who were completely incapable of anything complex. They must’ve been taught everything by higher beings
He seems to believe that cavemen saw Orion and started immitating it instead of finding the shape in the sky after one of their most common activites. That logic is just Impossible to exist so maybe we DO live in a simulation.
@@skyliner4413 the pictures he was using aren't even from what most people think of as cavemen lol, they're a few thousand years younger. early cave art in europe, africa, and now indonesia has basically no human figures, they were much more concerned with depicting animals!
"I feel more special, more significant" that is a very important statement. The rush you get out of having "hidden knowledge" is very powerful, it's practically an addiction
It's very interesting to me though that chasing that rush doesn't lead people into studying actual science. I'm a chem major and I know that feeling; I experience it whenever someone asks me to explain a process they don't understand and I do. Like, genuinely recommended. Read an actual science book, science papers, that's pretty much hidden knowledge to most of the population.
@@hana-a-cha I do the same thing and it's so much fun. I even read about things out of my field of study to learn about the common layman misconceptions so that I can be slightly less uneducated. It's so much fun to be able to explain things to people like why it's important to finish their antibiotics in terms they can understand that their doctor doesn't have time to explain at their appointment. Or why their Christmas tree doesn't benefit from crushed aspirin. Or how to make your yard slightly more environmentally beneficial without breaking my local town's yard ordinances.
If any of you are wondering the earth's circumference is 24,901 miles which means that one degree of curvature in the earth's circumference is a little over 69 miles. Shane's brother is confused because he can't see the curvature 3 miles in the distance. When of course he couldn't as the difference is so slight that from a distance he wouldn't be able to perceive it.
Lovely, mathematical explanation. But I think (I hope!) that people could figure out the basic concept on their own. But apparently I’m wrong, which is terrifying…
I was confused when he said the earth has no curve cuz when you fly on a plane at a certain height, you can absolutely see the planet curving and that it’s round…
@@KingOfGaymes also when you’re driving on a flat road and you suddenly see cars popping up in the horizon and it almost seems like they are driving over a hill. It’s hard to explain but if you’ve lived in the plains/cornfields of Illinois, you can see how the earth is curved just by driving.
My youngest brother fell heavy to conspiracy theories a few years back we couldn’t even watch a show without him pausing every few seconds to show us “illuminati symbolism.” I told him most of the conspiracy theories are rooted in racism and alt right beliefs and to analyze WHO was making the content and what their motives were, and to stop letting strangers on the internet instill fear into his everyday existence. Once he started analyzing the content creators he realized most of them are religious extremists or alt right followers. He stopped soon after.
I've seen this exact same comment before on another video. Down to the phrase of pausing every few seconds to talk about illuminati. Do you bring this up in RU-vid comments a lot or is this just some copy paste job?
As an empath I could totally tell that Shane's true intentions were to make children stupid so he could eventually sell them t-shirts with holes in them for 60$
Computer person here, motherboards can indeed be made in any shape. My least favorite ones are the laptop ones where they cram just about every component onto the same board so if even one of them dies you have to replace the whole thing. The only real connection between them and the pic Shane shows is that they both look a bit like an aerial view of a road map lmao
im p sure the picture shane shows is photoshopped anyway, bc the pixellation/image degradation of the plain background area is identical on both photos. looks like they just coloured the aerial shot green n added a few circuit lines(? idk the term). but even if it was real, there must b billions of motherboards on earth so its not weird that one would just happen to look like a (very small) city
@@Mars-dw2zc I don't think it's photoshopped, I think it's just a circuit made to replicate the shape and the artifacting you're seeing is just a result of JPEG compression from the image being saved over and over again.
It reminds me of that sarcatic comment on those Ancient Aliens people who compare ancient city layouts to computer circuits: _"It looks like a little city" _ the first thought of absoultely every single person who ever saw an electronic circuit_
Also the photo shown must definitely be either shopped or a motherboard especifically made to look like the pyramids. At the hardware level computers are all about differences of speed in tiny fractions based on the distance between components, having a long ass bus between components for no reason with nothing in-between is just a waste lol
Fans are often like “Shane’s not problematic anymore! He apologized for the blackface and stuff!” And then he does shit like this, which kinda goes being problematic to being actively harmful.
Riiight. He's like "Nah I'm not like problematic anymore...I'm outright actively off base influencing young people into the direction of lunatic conspiracies that are actively harmful to minorities and are all easily disproved if you bother to look at facts!"
There’s this idea among Shane fans(and people in general) that an apology negates all wrongs. Not only is it a misunderstanding of what “apology” means, it’s proof that they do not care about what he apologized for in the first place
@@rotroom I think what they’re saying that his fans blindly believes he’s changed even though he exhibits the same behavior, but just packaged differently
I'm always in shock about how USA-centric most space related theorys are. They are unable to even consider the possibility of another country having any theory, discovery or even writing a scientific papper about it. Not only that but they disconsider years of history and how even ancient people were fascinated by space and studied it. Astronomy was a huge part of the begining of the development of the scientific method and most ancient civilizations were at least a little bit rigth in their early studies (the round earth idea was even something discussed there if the famous experiment of Eratosthenes in Alexandria. It ends passing an image that even "fake" science can only be discovered by the US (maybe some European countries, but that is it).
Disclaimer: I'm brazilian and it's just unconfortable how this theorys kindda imply that people outisde of US are irrelevant. It gets even worse with the "aliens affecting history" theorys
@@lemonace6695 I'm glad you brought this up. I feel as though the US is a culture of narcissism, due to people who live here being *constantly* taught that we are "the greatest country on Earth" and "the only truly *free* country in the world". Because of this, people are raised to believe that we are the front-runners, and that the opinions and views of people from other countries and cultures are less accurate, due to them not being as "far along" as we are. This is internalized and taken as fact, and I believe that this is one of the biggest reasons why there is *still* so much racism here. I could honestly go on and on about this, but I think I've touched on all the major points. In short, Americans are raised to be narcissists.
Yeah the space race was really done more as a way to "own the commies" rather than achieving something as a planet and human kind, and i think cause of that its always been VERY US centric in terms of disscussion about space travel and exploration
Americans are nothing if not egocentric and egocentric in our brand of moronism. I mean yeah, if you listen to conservative talking points, then the dehumanization of the rest of the planet isn't surprising.
guys, seriously, this is not exclusive to americans. i'm telling you, as a jewish person who's the alleged puppet master behind these conspiracies, run rampant in european culture (and many in different asian cultures as well). in fact, the majority of these conspiracy theories originate from anti-jewish cabals dating back to the dark ages. these beliefs have traveled the world - malaysia, for example. it's a country that has no jewish presence but anti-jewishness is a normal, every day part of their lives. please don't assume these are purely americentric ideas and beliefs. it hurts those living overseas (and us a collective) whose experiences go completely unnoticed or blatantly ignored as a result of apathy towards victims whose lives are still being taken by their neighbors who innately can't let go of the superstitions and lies. there's nothing for them to call out unless it happens in america because it means they can divert the attention away from them so they can look like the altruistic good guys. let's take a look at some of the most infamous conspiracy theorists who are also known for their disturbing propaganda: stefan molyneux, paul joseph watson, and david icke... these aren't the names of american conspiracy theorists, yet they're the most influental voices of the far right. molyneux is irish-canadian and the other two are from the UK. these people even peddle very popular conspiracy theories about things that have no on-surface connection to the majority of conspiracies that originated from europe's crusade era, such as chemtrails, vaccines, 5G towers, and soy products. a couple more examples in re: caricatures of jews depicted by conspiracy theorists outside of america: - for belgium's carnival in 2019, the people had a parade where they dressed up as hook-nosed jews wearing rabbinical clothing and streimels with fake peyos. a year later, spain decided to follow suit a year after, where they dressed up and paraded themselves in costume those locked up in camps (which their ancestors had no qualms with) were forced to wear while others in a certain military costume danced alongside. in spain's defense, they at least took a little bit of accountability by apologizing. - notice how alt-righters on twitter constantly discuss the conspiracy theory about how jews are disloyal to america? look at the flags in their display names. the US flag is always missing. the only people who do are usually middle-aged parents who've accidentally ventured into twitter and don't know what they're up against. - major terr0r1st attacks that have happened in europe and asia over the past decade have been carried out by people who take time to make little detours to jewish places that have nothing to do with their overall plans due to hatred caused by conspiracy theories about jews. (eg; charlie hebdo and the hostage situation at a kosher grocery mart, the 2008 mumbai attack and the nariman chabad house, etc.) *and last but **_definitely_** not least:* the flat earth society is based in dover, england. its founder was a british conspiracy theorist named samuel shenton.
@@nwut yeah, most people in most countries are religious. There are exceptions (most notably China), but more than 80% of the world population says they're religious.
I understand your confusion but Einstein actually did invent the theory of gravity. Relativity is actually a gravitational theory that explains gravity through the curvature of spacetime. You're probably thinking of Newton's work on the law of gravity, which quantifies the visible effects of gravity in mathematical terms but isn't a theory because it doesn't explain how gravity works. Laws are what happens but theories are why they happen. Einstein was the one who gave an actual explanation for the mechanism behind gravity in 1916.
@@michaelkenner3289 ohhhhh okay! but still calling it the theory of gravity was technically wrong because it’s the theory of relativity (that’s more of a nitpick lol) thank u for the knowledge though. I knew that relativity was in relation to gravity but I didn’t know it literally *explained* gravity!
Remember when Shane tried to use someones handwriting to prove they were replaced by a double and the only difference was that one of them was in cursive.
that's so dumb, i've had at least 5 different writing methods in my life and would swap between them whenever i felt like it. handwriting means basically nothing
That woman being asked how it feels to be a flat earther saying she feels "special" is really telling. What drives so many people to conspiracy theories is this feeling of being part of a secret club who has this important knowledge that goes over average peoples' heads.
Like all the "conservative" Trump voters in america. They are all convinced they found some inside info on telegram or Twitter & it's the end of the world & only trump can save us. It's truly depressing & terrifying, america is not well.
I think Shane's brother being an ex-christian makes sense. he realized that some of the knowledge he got (in school or via parents) was based on a story, so he started seeing all "authority-based facts that way" I'm high as balls
@@firebreatha Shit stops lol if we live in a simulation then the plug gets pulled and then there's nothing, just like real life so it really doesn't matter
@@am-ranth8955 you missed my point too, never did I mention you talking about death, did I. I’m just saying that if we were to live in a simulation, it would also shatter the idea of death in some sense. And that is a certain effect. At least my perception of death would change. You said you couldn’t call out any things that would change. I could.
It really all does boil down to what that one woman said when talked about how it makes her feel special. That’s why these people love theories like this, it makes them feel “in the know” or superior to others because they’ve reached this supposed higher level of understanding
There is always a portion of people who subconsciously start finding their place on the opposite side of the argument. But the way you put it, forgets about the fact that the majority is not always right and certainly hasn’t been historically. The reason for this phenomenon can be the one you said, but there are several other reasons for this. Firstly, there is corruption in the world and everyone wants to make some kind of change with their opinions, whether it is good or bad. Believing conspiracies usually starts from realizing this corruption existing, and falling for things like this, because one hasn’t yet formed their worldview or really studied the topics or has no understanding on how to analyze logically. Therefore it is feeling-based and this feeling is mostly fear of one’s place in the world, whether it is restlessness on the whole or something directed straight towards their identity. I mean, it sounds strange that a straight male would start fearing for their place being taken over by something else and that he would actually think of the critique of male culture being a threat to their place or lives. Yet, he is only one person not understanding the full picture and in democracy, he is sort of obligated to have an opinion even before he has the means to form it, so he might likely just accept an argument or literally just story that supports the mindset of the fearful persona. And when he expresses this view, the view is obviously torn apart and many don’t say it nicely,(not saying they have to or have no right to their feelings or hurt) and through this he is likely not able to understand the critique and is likely to form a rejection sensitivity syndrome, especially if he has experienced rejection before and has not yet learned to cope with feelings. Also there is a reason for people to find themselves on the opposite side of the argument that stems from empathy, and that is wanting to think good of everyone and while not seeing the full picture, feeling emphatetic to the person or people that occupy the ”underdog” position. And then there are mixtures of these mindsets. The reason I am saying this, is that many of these people are just lost and they have fallen in a complicated rabbithole due to a lifetime full of events, and therefore many of them can be seen of victims of manipulation and populism. Lastly I have to say, they most likely have for long been the perpetrator, rather than the victim, but I always think of those two as a spectrum.
100% how I felt as a teen after watching one of Shane's videos. I'd tell my friends about it, some of whom made fun of me and I was like in my head that THEY were the naive and gullible ones believing what the "mainstream media" told them... *I* was the special one lol.....
“I’m just open to different possibilities” Given that many of these theories are rooted in antisemitism and bold rejection of fact, I wouldn’t doubt it.
Thank you for acknowledging the anti-semetic part of these theories. I'm not Jewish but it makes me mad how often people push these blatantly anti-semetic views and sometimes push some they don't realize are anti-semetic. Plus they think it's harmless even though theories and suspicions like these are what have led to violence against Jewish people many times throughout history.
A hill I will die on is that we as a society started viewing conspiracy theories COMPLETELY differently after the pandemic. It went from a quirky little hobby to political extremism
honestly can't say that it's a bad thing conspiracy theories are almost always deep rooted in antisemitism and discourage critical thinking, those two things combined usually end up in fascistic ideologies.
I think the pandemic giving people an ungodly amount of free time as well as short form content being more accessible, it created a perfect storm to where these sorts of theories and the people they attract also were more easily introduced to the radical pipelines they can lead to, taking these conspiracies from fringe, niche little communities to congregations of similarly unhinged people who have been brain broken by the unfiltered wave of misinformation that became commonplace and even kinda mainstream during the pandemic thus, kinda forcing people to look at these conspiracies with more scrutiny. If that makes sense
No, the pandemic definitely accelerated it but antivaxx, 5G, Chemtrails, Flat earth, "The Jews", Global Elite were all pretty prominent before, albeit by a much smaller minority. Now the American GOP spouts it all
There's a book I saw that I decided to buy and will hopefully get around to reading soon called "When Bad Thinking Happens to Good People." And it essentially talks about how people fall into conspiracy theories, and why teaching logic and critical thinking is so important. Pretty much every conspiracy theory is deeply flawed logically, and just a few minutes of critical thinking unravels them so quickly. It's scary that people believe these things, and even scarier that very popular creators like Shane are entertaining these ideas like their equal to reality. Yes looking at all sides is important, but with that comes knowing that not all sides are equally sound or equally likely.
Operation Northwoods was considered a conspiracy theory until the CIA declassified their documents to show that yes, they were ACTUALLY debating whether to commit mass shootings and blame them on Castro in order to drum up public support for an invasion of Cuba. WMDs in Iraq was something that all the experts in our government from both parties were saying, and instead of WMDs we found gold and oil and claimed it out of the smoldering husk that was now Iraq. MKUltra sounds fucking bonkers and the CIA would’ve never owned up to it if it weren’t for Congress pushing them on it. Our leaders lie to us every day, it would truly be insane if you believe everything that’s considered part of the orthodoxy today without question.
i love the flat earthers because like... what do they think the motivation is for "the Man" to keep up the alleged falsified information that the world is round? why does it need to be round? why would they hide it if the earth was flat?
A big part of the appeal to conspiracy theorists is when people talk about how "they" are hiding the truth suddenly "they" looks a lot like whatever group you happen to dislike already. So many interviews I've seen from conspiracy gatherings will have dozens of wildly different reasonings for why the thing they believe is happening
Bizarrely a lot of from what I’ve seen boils down to a crazy anti Semitic theory that says that hitler is alive and hiding underneath the Antarctica wall building up an army so he can rise up again and “win this time”
@@madeline5493 I cannot tell you how many people have tried to harass me in a transphobic sense with the standard “it’s against biology” and “all of you are predators” arguments that have been disproven for ages… and when those arguments fail, a shocking amount of them have devolved into this mad rambling about how “all teachers and professors are being controlled by Jews who are inventing this rhetoric for no reason”… It is honestly so startling that it’s happened to me more than once… I guess when they can’t come up with a logical response they just go full batshit insane about it.
@@MrHendrix17 Well, that's why it's called a conspiracy *theory* Yeah, motivation is a good factor to question, but let me also say, it's doesn't need a clear motive to question it, afterall, you could come up for three different possible motives after thinking about it for 30 minutes.
what I've never been able to get about these theories is, do Americans really believe their government is lying to them and EVERY SINGLE country is going along with it?? why would they do that? there's no way every country in the world would agree..
As an American, I can confidently say that most of us forget that other countries exist because our educational system is a travesty and our national identity is self-centeredness.
My guy you can't just generalize "Americans" like that, that'd be like me asking "Do Russians really just hate Ukraine?" Or "Why are North Koreans okay with their government?"
Off topic from the video, props for Orr for hiding his brother’s identity. I think it’s always a good idea to keep kids off the internet as much as possible. To many weirdos out there nowadays.
I remember when I was like 12 and watching him I fully believed everything he said and were telling my parents about all the theories. I only stopped when I was telling my mum about his conspiracy of 9/11 and my mum shut it down telling me that she saw it on the tv and there was no way it was fake.
You should also watch the broadcast from that day, it's all available on RU-vid. You should experience it too and then understand that only A FEW HOURS LATER these stupid fucking theories started popping out. Absolutely ridiculous and very disrespectful to anyone who had just died.
@@rainbowglider You definitely weren't stupid at all, you were young and couldn't have known better. Heck, I was already like 20-22 when I was watching and believing a lot of Shane's conspiracy videos, he got a lot of us trapped in that thinking. Age is one factor, but difficult life situations can also make people vulnerable to conspiracy thinking (and being a preteen or a teenager is definitely a difficult time of life by default).
I watched his theory videos, when I was in my early teens and I thought that he didn’t believe in most of the theories he talked about. But yes a lot of them are very harmful like the 9/11 ones.
i remember, a couple years ago, like 3 days after a mass shooting in vegas happened, shane uploaded a conspiracy video about it. its probably deleted now, but i distinctly remember him saying since he loved vegas so much, he felt a duty to get to the bottom of what happened.
God, I hate people like that. He was exploiting a tragedy, spreading deliberate misinformation, and then trying to fall back on the idea of "I'm just doing it because I care about them!"
Can vouch, I never believed them much as a child but I watched like all his videos. They are very entertaining for children and if my parents hadn't taught me critical thinking skills I'd probably have started believing in lizard people. But yes I remember that video and another one he did about a girl who died from getting trapped in a freezer. There actually was some reasonable evidence that she could've been murdered (from his video so not very verifiable now, but her parents did think she was murdered) and he said he would never stop talking about it until she got justice. He never mentioned it again, maybe the case got closed or something but I remember waiting for updates in his videos but they never came. Like it's fine to make the video I guess cause like true crime is a thing (it was done a bit disrespectfully imo though) but to make that promise, giving hope to family and friends only to never follow up, that's pretty messed up. Sorry for the long comment
@@thejazzy6012 oh wow, i remember exactly the video you're talking about. crazy how he can just lie and move on like that, but i feel that now these serious cases he reviewed were just to make himself seem reputable.
As a computer man I can say that the closest the "it's just like a motherboard" argument gets is that typically the circuitry was designed with both a "North" and "South" bridge in respect to the CPU. There isn't an inherent need for these positions, it's just good for transport of electrical flow, like the roads from those pyramids are efficient for getting places. I'd argue this has nothing to do with a higher power influencing earlier cultures, and more to do with a straight line being the most efficient way to connect 3 landmarks.
There's a field of science called pedestrian dynamics that shows that you can model large crowds of people as fluids and use fluid equations to predict where corridors will be congested during high flow. It's used to build modern structures with safer fire exits. Venturing into the fields of conjecture, it is possible that people on the scale of cities move in a way one could loosely compare to how electricity moves through a circuit. If that were true, one would expect circuits and cities to have similar structures simply because of their similar functions.
i think a lot of these beliefs can be driven by fear and/or denial, so the pandemic was a breeding ground for conspiracy theories. people didn’t want to believe they could die from a super contagious illness, so they made the unconscious decision to not believe it and say it was fake. and believing one thing leads to another and then you think the government is trying to personally poison you. it honestly makes me a little sad these people go insane and then think they’re smarter than everyone because of it. i understand, it wasn’t my parent so it wasn’t as jarring but my brother recently got his leg amputated. he wouldn’t treat his diabetes or go to the doctor because of “big pharma” conspiracy theories, now he’s physically disabled forever. it was kind of a blessing in disguise, it was a wake up call for him and he actually takes care of himself now, but i wish he would've realized before they had to cut his leg off
As a Jew, it's refreshing to see a RU-vid channel with a decent subscriber base pointing out the ways that these videos usually come back to conspiracies about Jews. Somewhat telling that it has to come from a creator who is Jewish, rather than the countless non-Jewish others who have talked about conspiracy channels etc but can't be bothered to call out the antisemitism. But regardless, it's nice to see on your channel :) Also I said this on another video but I'm so glad I found this channel, it's a blast and it's also nice to finally see a Jewish creator with a decent thing going (subscriber-wise and content-wise)! :D
@@dysmissme7343 I feel you - recently I've felt like Pinely is some kind of a safe space, where I can just watch him do fun and silly things without fearing what he might say next. Hang in there 💙
Yup, even before he was "cancelled" for being a creep, I hated him for this kind of content. He's a major part of the normie-to-n4z1 pipeline and not enough people talk about that.
@@trashman424 ohh stuff like that. Oh f9r sure theres an elite group controlling the planet in some way hut they arent all jews lmao. Most likely people from every country from. Around the world. Chances of 9ne being a jew is high but chances of all of them being jews is laughable.
@@MackenziiRivers a lot of it is under the umbrella of qanon which is violently antisemitic. Also a lot of the conspiracies cross over into Holocaust denial, which is a favorite passtime of n4zis.
Shane, after getting called out for doing blackface for like 5 years: I swear, I won't do anyting racist again Also Shane: Did you guys know this theory that assumes Jewish people control the world is totally viable and like, true, guys? :|
Thank you for bringing up the anti-semitism at the centre of these conspiracies, I don’t see a lot of larger channels bring it up when talking about these types of theories. I mean it’s probably because you’re Jewish yourself but still, I was glad to see you bring it up.
A lot of conspiracists tend to fall into anti-semitism which somehow also leads them to be racist and homo-transphobic. It sounds weird but it makes sense that someone who develops a mistrust in scientific institutions would also fall for the "everyone is secretly trans" conspiracy theory or continue to believe in "scientific" racism or homophobia based on evidence that has been debunked decades if not centuries ago.
Antisemitism is kind of like the structural foundation of every "they're out to get you", "what they don't want you to know", etc theory that's out there, even if said theory isn't explicitly blaming teh joos
Thank you so much for this. I was seriously uncomfortable at how Shane was selling basically Qanon 4 kids. He was instrumental in getting a lot of young people into the disinformation spiral.
Some “conspiracy theories” can be fun and lighthearted like “ooh the Mandela affect? George doesn’t have a tail how weird” and “spooky backwards messages in songs!” but Shane disgustingly crosses a line when talking about things that are real without a doubt, like tragedies and blatant misinformation. There’s a line between having fun with silly theories and impacting impressionable children into thinking the world is fucking flat.
Mandela effect theories are about people having too big of an ego to admit they misremembered something. Shane's theories lead people to thinking the Jewish people are some sort of world government that controls everything and must be destroyed...
The Sandy Hook theory is the one that angers me the most. He is really trying to say Sandy Hook never happened, but the fact that fucking kids are gone is proof enough. Sickening.
Nah I heavily disagree on the "fun" theories. I started out with the subliminal messages conspiracy theory as an impressionable 11-year-old and through the algorithm it quickly devolved into illuminati/NWO/unfortunately also antisemitic territory. There is no line, especially if you actually believe this stuff
"And then Einstein thought of the theory of gravity..." Sir Isaac Newton didn't get hit in the head with that apple for y'all to disrespect him like this 😭
I think if anything proves cancel culture doesn't really exist in the way people say it does, its that Shane still has a following and is still successful on RU-vid. After the VERY blatant continuous racism through his early career, the sexualizing of animals and young girls, and then pushing very conspiratorial thinking to impressionable young people. ON TOP OF THAT, his content is just not good, its lazy, its meandering, its nonsensical, and some of his videos he outright steals large chunks of his run times from other channels WITHOUT credit. I don't understand how Shane has a following
I never did either. He doesn't even have a charismatic personality, or at least in my experience he always made me cringe with his "humor" and I never found him funny. And his videos are SO BORING
looking back at this, i also worry about people with any mental illness involving paranoia. could you imagine what videos like this, insanely popular videos everyone was seeing, would do to them?
I have mental illnesses that can cause paranoia, I watched a couple of his conspiracy videos and didn't sleep for almost a week because they triggered massive bouts of paranoia. Conspiracy videos in general are bad for people like me but Shane's were the worst for me, the atmosphere he would put in his videos would set me on edge for days
@@aluna1234 yes, and the music made it so much worse for me. I'd feel like I "had" to watch to become smarter or something and I got so anxious from the scary music and sound effects. it was terrifying, and while I'm sorry that you went through that I'm happy to know that I'm not the only one who felt like that
I have paranoia... It's hell. I fell HARD down conspiracy theory rabbit holes. I was also extremely paranoid from 8-13 years old that every plane in the sky had a nuke 🥲
I think Shane is about my age, which means he's technically old enough to remember what special effects looked like in the 80s. With that in mind, if he truly thinks that in 1969 those special effects were good enough to fool people into thinking we landed on the moon, he's just lying to himself.
My biggest problem as someone who suffers with delusions is the fact that the people who support these theorys and understand that they sre theories will stop at nothing to tell you your delusions are real. Like the amount of times ive been told like for example my hallucinations are me looking into another dimension or me seeing spirits or my delusions is the universe trying to warn me about something is absolutely crazy. They likr the turn your personal mental health experiences and turn it jnto a fun theory. I honestly don't care what other people believe but that behaviour is a massive trend in shanes fans and its so harmful and dangerous
Mind so open, their brains fell out. Y’know, it’s really sad that this kind of lazy conspiracy shit is so popular, when *actual* science is really fucking awesome and interesting. People who put out videos like Shane’s should be fined to compensate for all the education they’re undoing.
Sooo TRUUU, real scientific phenomenon is wayyy more interesting than any conspiracy JUST LEARN ABT EVOLUTION!!! that shit alone is mindboggling and theres PROOF thru so many things like fossil records
there's this channel that put some absurd things into question, such as how to become soap and how many lions would it take to overwhelm(?) the sun. using science and math to get an answer. pretty over the top and impossible things, but it's still explored and explained throughout the videos. meanwhile, these guys just go like '[proven thing] is a hoax :0' and way too much people believe them 🤧
I think this is the thing - so many conspiracy theories boil down to the believer's inability to understand the science. They just don't understand it. A lot of conspiracies are just making sense of the world with as much science as a 5th grader can understand 😭
Your hair is still so cool. Also: I’m also Jewish, pretty religious too, and it’s so nice calling out these dumb illogical theory channels that spread so much misinformation and hate (especially towards Jews).
I never realized the conspiracy theory community and the far right (racist fascist) types had so much in common until the past few years. But the type who need hateful alternative ways of looking at the world are usually the type who need to a group of people to blame for their own inadequacies- they want to believe the people they hate should be feared (I’m Muslim, so I kind of can empathize though on a different level.) It sucks
Hey, I'm a pretty religious Jew as well, who's been through some bad antisemitic attacks in my life, & am so sick of these utterly stupid conspiracy theories. They do lead to dangerous views & violence. It's so refreshing seeing a major RU-vid channel just call it out. It's just tiring being a jew online, because it seems like antisemitic theories are now so mainstream.
I'm not Jewish (Christian, myself), but I can't imagine how tiring it must be to see all of these conspiracy theories that have their roots in antisemitism get mainstreamed. So much of this shit, when you dig just a little bit, is just thinly veiled antisemitism.
My a-level physics teacher had a brother who became a flat earth era and moved across the ocean, alienating himself from his whole family. It’s very upsetting how these ideologies affect normal people.
It's really stupid, because the constellation of course still existed, so they'd know about that set of stars, but it wouldn't be "The belt of Orion" to them, it'd likely have some other meaning than the belt of some Greek Hunter with a extreme tendency to piss off the Gods (no, literally in every version of the Orion Myth he pisses off some god and that leads to his downfall).
I get so fucking pissed off when it comes to 9/11 theories. My moms close friend died in the tragedy. She had a daughter. That daughter then had to grow up without a mother. And some folks DARE to say it was all fake
@@h4neymoon the people who were there that day knows what happened including my mother who was onsite and who’s life was permanently altered because of the event speculation just invalidates hundreds of peoples first person trauma. Like yeah we speak of 9/11 as a collective trauma but most of the people who scream about the tragedy from the hilltops weren’t even physically there
The funniest part to me is that the "10th planet" theory was directly used in Scooby Doo Mystery Inc. This man believes in the thing the Scooby doo series used to be edgy
One of his conspiracy videos that has always stood out was one where he claimed that Gerard Way (ex?)lead singer of MCR had to be a vampire because he looked like he never aged and looked too young. He’s aged and it just looks like he didn’t from camera angles and filters and the makeup gerard wore for like 95% of his music career
I'm lucky that when I watched those shane videos when I was younger I just treated them as mindless entertainment, which is what they are, instead of something to actually consider. this is not me saying I'm smarter or smt than others, I completely understand that it's possible and dangerous for people to actually consider these theories. I just had exposure to other types of content that was debunking this kind of stuff.
In 2010 we got a big earthquake here in Chile, even when we explained the why to my little sister (at that time 10yr) she started researching by her own, months later she would explain that our earthquake was an apocalyptic symbol to our destruction in 2012 those were two weird years until Dec 2012 was here and nothing happened lol. Many tweens are starting to think critically about everything that is around them (religious stuff that their parents impose them, the meaning of their own existence and what's their porpouse in life) a good quality video, someone with enough charisma and great confidence is sometimes all they need to believe despite the evidence proving how wrong they are and I guess some adults also fit in that.
@@weregretohio7728 I think it's a cycle, my siblings and i have big age gaps (me 25), 18(sister) and 11 (brother) and my sister is the one who is religious/truly believes in astrology/kind of anti vaxxer, while my brother is way more curious and try to find explanation that make sense even if the answer is not comforting and I guess I'm like that too.
I, for one, would like to welcome our diabolic Pinely master. (Have you ever noticed that “planet” is just “Pinely” with some of the letters moved around… and changed to other letters? Coincidence??)
when i was younger i heard about shanes theories so i watched one video and in the video, he spent half the time talking about random tv shows and then showed 2 videos of birds “floating”. i happen to have grown up with 2 bird watcher parents and was able to figure out that the first birds wings flapping matched up to the framerate of the camera recording it, and the second was kiting. which is. a thing that birds do. it was so obvious. so ig i dodged a bullet with that one
It's not just kids, believe it or not. My best friend's mom - a 50yo college professor with a PhD in sports medicine - came out as a flat earther recently. My mom was flabbergasted because she isn't really online. I wasn't, because I am. So when my friend and I sat down to "reverse-engineer" the proof she sent us, it took two degrees of separation to get back to Shane. Two. Of course, all the blame can be laid at any one person's feet. There's a conversation about a lack of critical thought to be had. But it bothers me that massively popularizing wild conspiracy theories and peddling them to a massive audience is considered to be the GOOD part of his content, even by his detractors.
Planet wasn't used for the Earth originally. It means "wanderer" and described the stars which didn't move in time with the other stars. It wasn't until people realized that these stars were other worlds circling the sun and that the Earth was the same that we started calling Earth a planet. Planetes the Greek word for wanderer and Planum the Latin word for flat sound similar but aren't related etymologically.
People who believe in like. Secret codes worked into words are so exhausting to me. Like I don’t even know where to start like. How do they think words are invented??? Who put the secret message there? why would they put a secret message there if they were trying to hide something? Vast majority of words have easily accessible information about how they came into their current form but I guess googling it is too much to ask.
Honestly, Dan Olson and H bomber guy did great breakdowns on debunking all the weird theories and why people cling to them etc. Definitely recommend them to anyone who hasn’t seen em!
wow it really takes a special kind of person to invalidate other people's literal trauma by calling it a "conspiracy" thank god for drano shawshank for showing us the light
A quick Google search revealed that it took early humans over two million years to develop bows and arrows. So Orion must have been rather uninvolved for a while lol
Watching Shane as a kid is 100% a big part of the reason to why I'm so jumpy and paranoid today, those conspiracy theories fucked me up so much mentally.
"If I can see 5km at 6ft tall, then if I'm 1000 times higher shouldn't I be able to see 1000 times further?" Yeah... if the Earth was flat. But you can't. Because the Earth isn't flat. I can honestly never tell if these people honestly believe what they're saying or if they're just pretending to be this stupid.
The idea that we would need a god to teach us how to hunt is baffling to me. I realize it's not as easy as just picking up a sharp looking stick and running after a deer, but I'm pretty sure if other animals can figure it out, our ancestors probably were also able to find ways to hunt without needing guidance from a god. Idk it feels like the "aliens helped the ancient Egyptians build the pyramids" theory but it underestimates human intelligence and ingenuity even more.
GOOOOODDDDD YESSSSS THIIIISSSS i fucking hate those sort of talking points/mindsets. major "theyre unlike me therefore they couldnt have been great" vibes.
What pisses me off is that evolution, which has been proven time and time again, is completely ignored, like humans didn’t just wake up with the ability to use tools, they developed it over thousands of years. Humans slowly developed an overwhelming intelligence that allowed them to overtake the planet(which typing it out, it sounds dramatic but they really did). Why do they ignore the dozens of variants before humans? Sorry for the rant especially since this is from 9 months ago, but this shit got me heated lol
Ancient people, who couldn't hunt for food I guess?, looked up at the sky saw a bunch of stars and thought "wow this arbitrary cluster looks vaguely like a thing I've never seen before, we should invent that."
as someone working their way out of a cult and the cult mindset I was raised to have, these people 100% have that same feel to them. Especially when they've staked serious relationships on this theory being true, the amount of self-brainwashing they have to do to make those sacrifices worth it must be crazy.
The worst part of shane's brother is his pronounciation of Teotihuacán 😫 But for real, I am genuinely saddened by the fact many of my friends who also watched shane dawson when we were around 10~12ish were so deeply down the rabbit hole and didn't know any better. I took it as a form of entertainment but man, shane dawson was a pipeline for some Weird stuff.
Also I feel like his theory videos also show how fake his “soft boy empath” shtick is. Like I remember in his tana con video he was blaming it all on the company that helped her set it up and that one guy that was the head of it and then when he did the video call with him he did his whole “omg wait I feel bad!!1!! I thought I was just blaming a faceless company I didn’t know there were actual real people working there that would be affected by me slandering them!!1!!” Like... when you make baseless conspiracy theory videos blaming the people that worked in the towers and different parts of the government you are blaming and affecting actual people, not just some faceless group. I had a teacher who said his brother in law worked in the government during 9/11 (not anything high up I’m pretty sure) and he’s got death threats saying he was somehow responsible for it.
This kind of misdirection is the entire conservative talking head strategy in the US... you talk in circles, hint at evil, and then step back and deny responsibility when something bad happens. Stochastic terrorism needs to be taken seriously. Unfortunately, whether it's RU-vid or Fox News, we have chosen to accept this.
Well, death threats are probably always wrong, but if people are have reasons to question it, then it's not their fault that your brother got death threats, especially when he clearly was unlikely to have anything to do with it. Like yes, we should be conscious of our effect, but what, don't say anything potentially bad because some people too invested on the internet will make death threats? JK Rollins got death threats and people going to her house, which is wrong, but should we have not have called her out? Sorry that happened to him, but I think it's important to point this out.
great vid pinely this stuff can be extremely damaging, and as someone who was in 2 cults (or cultlike movements) i can guarentee that's what these conspiracy groups are, and all it takes is 1 video to start you down a really dark path.
the little bits of a circuit board can absolutely be placed anywhere in any shape lol. theres ones that were used in spaceships that are in the shape of mlp characters. dont let shane find this out, hes going to think that some ponies from a kids show sent us to space then.
I'm sorry that you had to watch those videos of people actively spreading antisemitism. It truly highlights the real danger of conspiracy videos and how they can ultimately & quickly lead to increased harm & danger for Jewish people
The irony of Jared going on about simulation theory while wearing a weed shirt is not lost on me. Also I thought Jared was a flat-earther so why does he bring up the circumference of the Earth in reference to the Pyramids? lmao
@@Jay-vr1mz circumference implies that the shape is a circle, Jared had been going on about the “four corners of the world” bullshit, which means he believes the earth is not a circle
As a fellow Jew, these conspiracy videos always got under my skin. They feel so icky and it’s so dangerously close to extreme antisemitism 😬😬😬 thanks for making this. It was fun to watch someone dunk on this haha
The fact that Shane Dawson had all that shit about him exposed, stayed off the Internet for a few months and then was able to come back with no consequences, doing the same shit he was before just proofs how Cancel Culture isn't a real thing
Okay but seriously- My husband is queer and Jewish and still fell down all these super niche alt right rabbit holes and conspiracy theories back when Shane was making these videos
Somehow Shane had a way of making it feel relatable and open-minded rather than what it is. I fell for it too. Glad he’s finally getting exposed, but it really goes to show what kind stupid bullshit people will believe when the guy spewing it is white and charismatic.
I feel your pain. I have very orthodox siblings in-laws in Brooklyn that are somehow QAnon Antivaxxers! Worst part is they scared my elderly mom-in-law from getting the vax, by convincing her that she's allergic to all vaccines because she's allergic to penicillin.
@@ArtisticlyAlexis I even know some self-proclaimed pagan satanists who buy into the Qanon shit. Even though it's literally just rehashed Satanic Panic BS lol
24:25.... his brother really said “Einstein thought of the theory of gravity” .. Issac Newton was the one that discovered gravity and that happened centuries before Einstein was even born lmao. Did he really think we didn’t have any concept of gravity until like the 30’s ??? Lmaoo
I think he means the theory of relativity, which explains why gravity does its thing. Newton came up with the Law of Gravity, basically saying that gravity happens, but Einstein explains WHY gravity is a thing.
My dad has never been to New York, doesn’t know anyone that ever has and has no personal connections to the event whatsoever, but every time someone brings up 9/11 I can see the pain and emotion he has in remembering witnessing it live on tv. Other people I know too. I feel terrible that people still peddle the theory that it was fake when the people who were alive at the time still can remember the horrible event.
slightly late to this, but thank you! when I was a teenager I had a friend who was a big shane dawson fan, and believed his conspiracy theory videos. she would talk about the pyramids being built by aliens like it was a fact because shane dawson did a video on it, which was incredibly annoying as both a hater of conspiracy theories, and a person from a north african background (although not egyptian, but my ethnic group, the amazigh/berbers, also inhabits a good chunk of egypt and has since ancient times). she didn't listen to anything i tried to explain about the construction of the pyramids and just said it would have been "impossible" for humans to have built them. the ancient aliens conspiracy theory is actually quite racist, as it's only ever applied to monuments and buildings built by non-white societies like the pyramids and machu pichu, and never constructions built by europeans like the colloseum or newgrange. plus the group who are supposed to have built the pyramids or whatever keeps changing throughout the years, it's currently aliens, but in the past it's been the inhabitants of atlantis or the lost tribe of jews. always a white-coded group, with the implication being that poc couldn't have possibly built something so magnificent. it was annoying af to listen to my friend repeat a conspiracy theory implying my own ethnic group and our sister ethnic group is so dumb that they must have been incapable of building pyramids and aliens must have done it, but she had no clue the conspiracy theory was racist because shane did not touch on what is quite an important detail about this specific conspiracy theory whatsoever. and she wouldn't budge from her belief because shane convincingly presented it as fact and as a teenage fan she believed and trusted him. it wouldn't be as bad if shane at least presented the information debunking the conspiracy theories at the end of the videos, but he would just leave out the information disproving them, I assume because he thinks it makes the videos more ~mysterious~ or something. instead there's just a little disclaimer at the start and then he just goes on like he believes them and does not include any actual facts. sorry for the rant, lol, I've just been annoyed by shane dawson's conspiracy theory videos for 5 or 6 years now!
@@avabeth2535 I'm not 20. I get the feeling you're bitter about not being in your early twenties anymore judging by the unnecessary snark though 🥱 shane dawson has been making his misinformation spreading videos for the best part of a decade, plenty of people who were teenagers back then are fully grown adults now with degrees and jobs
The double think is insane. How does he simultaneously believe that the Earth is flat, but ALSO he believes that the simulation is proven, because doing (weirdly specific) maths to a pyramid makes the circumference of the Earth? What?
My mum is an amateur astronomer with her own camera and telescope. Sure, some of the photos of the Moon I've seen come from NASA, but I've seen beautiful photos of the Moon and impressively crisp photos of some planets taken by her through her own equipment. In her photos you can actually see mountain ranges on the Moon. The shapes of the shadows in her photos perfectly demonstrate that the Moon is spherical.
I swear to God I've seen the same "theory" you found on Eminem but about Avril Lavigne once. The theory was that the "real" Avril killed herself and was replaced by a doppelganger. It was truly the craziest crap I have ever to this day clicked on, and no there wasn't any legitimate proof it was all based on "evidence" like her music changing (that stuff happens as artists grow and change themselves?) Biggest waste of time and yet there was way too many people who seemed on board with that type of theory in the comments
people bring up this conspiracy in avril's comment section on instagram all the time 😒 it's so stupid. hell, not even just in her comments but literally anywhere i see avril, there will be people making comments about "it's actually melissa" - can never tell if these people are joking or not anymore.
The evidence for that one is actually because there was a real voice double, that would perform when avril couldn’t. Because she also looked like Avril they decided to use her instead of announcing her death. Not my thoughts I just wanted to share the full theory
The computer "motherboard" thing is clearly fake if you know anything about electronics. Motherboards in consumer computers are almost always modular and usually not green, so it would probably be custom anyways. If it isn't, the placement of components doesn't make any sense at all. It was clearly photoshopped which is why the background has an ugly texture and probably taken from Instagram because of the formatting and heavy compression. Shane is one of the worst "reporters" on the internet.
This shit happened to me when I was younger. I was an avid Shane Dawson fan and absolutely ate up everything he said. It really messed with my head when I was that young, and ended with me spreading a lot of misinformation to other impressionable kids too. Really glad I’ve moved on from that now, but it still kinda haunts me.
I find it so funny that they were like, "THE CAVEMEN SAW ORION AND WERE LIKE-" Orion is a Grecian constellation last I checked. The cavemen skipping through history apparently
