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Bands Who RESTARTED Without the Singer… and It Worked 

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Bands who lost a singer to death/infighting and continued on together as a new band... with a new vocalist. It's a bit niche, but bands rebooting without their iconic singer is more common than you might think.
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0:00 // Bands Who Started Over Without Singer
1:04 // Sublime vs Sublime With Rome
2:34 // Guns 'N Roses vs Velvet Revolver
4:22 // Creed vs Alter Bridge
5:50 // Queen vs Queen + Adam Lambert
7:14 // As I Lay Dying vs Wovenwore
8:32 // Rage Against The Machine vs Audioslave
10:05 // Joy Division vs New Order

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@ARTV-
@ARTV- 8 месяцев назад
Niche topic? Maybe, but I wanted to talk about bandmates who ditched the singer and started over with a new band, and a new singer 🎙️ Thanks for watching, drop a like/subscribe 👊
@steveshattah
@steveshattah 8 месяцев назад
Hey thanks for the little heart. I got to see the minutemen in glorious fashion but not in their natural habitat which would have been a club setting. They opened for REM at the fox theater in Atlanta not long before D Boon died. Absolutely fantastic and one very commendable thing about REM was they gave support bands full complete and properly EQ'd sound whereas most headliners of the time made the openers sound like crap on purpose.
@mylsyl
@mylsyl 8 месяцев назад
Who remembers blink 182 forming box car racer without mark and +44 without tom
@Stefan_Gerards
@Stefan_Gerards 8 месяцев назад
always found Adam Lambert to be an underrated singer. he had a ton of great songs in the early 2010s that i still come back to
@BookishRaider
@BookishRaider 8 месяцев назад
Agreed
@Therealfakemaxgoldberg
@Therealfakemaxgoldberg 8 месяцев назад
How is he underrated? He had ridiculous success & his music only had a fraction of the personality he himself had imo
@canyounotmydude9155
@canyounotmydude9155 8 месяцев назад
@@Therealfakemaxgoldbergactually he isn’t too popular here solo wise. He had a big few first albums but that’s mostly it. His last album only debuted in the 100s of the Billboard 200. In Europe it’s a different story
@janulake
@janulake 8 месяцев назад
@@canyounotmydude9155 VELVET was praised quite highly by music critics. It was buried by the pandemic (it came out at the beginning of it, so there was no promo or tour), and moreover, it's not the typical radio junk that the plebs want to listen to.
@h1dd3n56
@h1dd3n56 8 месяцев назад
The story of Andrew Wood and Pearl Jam is a good one too. They were a different band called Mother Love Bone, and then Wood had an accidental overdose which broke them up originally. Years later, they found Eddie Vedder and everything changed for them.
@prestmas
@prestmas 8 месяцев назад
very good example, but "years later" isnt correct, the band landed on vedder the same year they lost wood
@h1dd3n56
@h1dd3n56 8 месяцев назад
@@prestmas i meant that in regards to their success, but yes it didn’t take very long for them to find each other
@mikeburkhardt7893
@mikeburkhardt7893 8 месяцев назад
I just found out recently that New Order was Joy Division after Ian Curtis passed away. It suddenly made so much sense why I love New Order so much
@ElliYeetYT
@ElliYeetYT 8 месяцев назад
Another detail to add; Brian Marshall was not even present in Creed for the recording of Weathered as he had left the band prior in 2000. If anything that made the tension worse. Thankfully in both Alter Bridge (and Creed) he returned which completed the rhythm trio again.
@jules-yi8rn
@jules-yi8rn 8 месяцев назад
Chris Cornell's voice in ANY band is money....damn I miss him😔.
@jennafishy97
@jennafishy97 8 месяцев назад
Adam Lambert is really good with Queen
@thebest3921
@thebest3921 8 месяцев назад
Alter Bridge are a gift, incredible band
@robinchatterjee1519
@robinchatterjee1519 8 месяцев назад
hey jon, a good idea potentially for a 7 on sunday could be seven bands that had a big hit and then tried making a similar song or record like that song, to capitalise on that success. Examples could be the cranberries with zombie > hollywood (or even the whole faithful departed album with a harder rock edge)or even dire straits with sultans of swing > lady writer sounded similar especially the guitar solos
@Tyler108x
@Tyler108x 8 месяцев назад
I just gotta say though, Velvet Revolver is a damn beautiful new name that references the old one. Queen + Adam Lambert is an interesting thing overall. Wovenwar was fun too, as well as Audioslave. I would also argue that New Order is the most iconic post vocalist band, save for perhaps Foo Fighters from the ashes of Nirvana (yes, I know it was only 2 members not all of them but still they count to me)
@alanlafond9705
@alanlafond9705 8 месяцев назад
Grohl and Smear are both such great musicians though, and I seem to recall the reason Grohl didn't include Krist in Foo Fighters was because it was too weird for Krist to work with Grohl without Kurt being there too, or something like that. Also, as we saw in the video, even Queen's bassist didn't stay for the reboot, so the Foo Fighters are in good company in that regard! Also, Novoselic actually DID work with Foo Fighters once, as an uncredited guest appearance doing backing vocals on Walking A Line. 😉
@n.nealparadise3963
@n.nealparadise3963 8 месяцев назад
Great video! Space was limited, I know, but the story of Mother Love Bone => Pearl Jam is a great one. There's also the kinda obscure Stone Temple Pilots => Talk Show. After STP kicked Scott Weiland to the curb in the late 90's, they had a brief stint with a different singer and a new name, Talk Show. It didn't take long for Scott to come back, the new singer to be kicked, and STP to be reborn.
@patrickstar6247
@patrickstar6247 8 месяцев назад
It’s a small one but when Matt left My Darkest Days to join 3DG. Their rhythm guitarist and bassist started the band Deadset Society. Only put out one album but it was solid.
@BrokenRealityYT
@BrokenRealityYT 8 месяцев назад
I was gonna say the same thing
@robinchatterjee1519
@robinchatterjee1519 8 месяцев назад
immediately thought joy division > new order when i clicked on this video. Didn't even know about velevet revolver so u learn something new everyday!
@ericwolford5685
@ericwolford5685 8 месяцев назад
8:24 - You're missing one key fact to the story. A short four years after AILD's reunion, 3 of the 5 members left the band, insinuating that Tim might not be as reformed as he claims.
@CYANYE_
@CYANYE_ 8 месяцев назад
Great Video Jon! SOS Idea: Albums that nearly broke up/ended bands (like Saturday Night Wrist)
@crona1794
@crona1794 8 месяцев назад
4:16 Axl: You could not live with your own failure. And where did that bring you? Back to me.
@ViralRak
@ViralRak 8 месяцев назад
I definitely should respin some velvet revolver. I haven’t thought about them in ages
@mmsiphonevinyls1027
@mmsiphonevinyls1027 8 месяцев назад
Bad English is maybe one, as some people forget that by the breakup of Journey, they were down to just a trio. Then Schon and Cain formed a new supergroup without Steve Perry.
@CCKaraoke
@CCKaraoke 8 месяцев назад
Although Queensryche kept the name, they turned firing the old singer into putting out some of the best music of their career.
@Tyler108x
@Tyler108x 8 месяцев назад
Jon, sorry to comment on something unrelated, but i have a question/ possible Seven on Sunday idea. So recently both Blink & Fall Out Boy did a sort of "make your own album art" campaign, and I laughed because I remembered you displaying just how poorly that went for 30STM on the America album review. But then another question occurred to me- was 30STM the first band to do this? Have any other bands had success/failure with this? Regardless of whether you know or not though it occured to me it may be a good SOS: "7 albums where bands let the Fans make the album art", then go into the history of it, your opinions on it, via the 7, and just overall judge each one on whether you personally like it and whether it was successful (also because you reacting to the best and worst of them would be extremely fun to watch)
@bjorn19
@bjorn19 8 месяцев назад
If you ever make a part 2, I think Love and Rockets (Bauhaus) is worth a mention.
@csquire667
@csquire667 8 месяцев назад
I was hoping someone would mention them
@tomray4140
@tomray4140 8 месяцев назад
I didn't know L&R was a refit of bauhaus. I love BH and Peter Murphys solo stuff. Will have to check out Rockets again
@manxinsomniac
@manxinsomniac 8 месяцев назад
A lot of these bands are blessed that they weren't tainted by their singer's actions.
@lisandroxiii5031
@lisandroxiii5031 8 месяцев назад
I also thought of Lostprophets with the singer of Thursday. But no one wants to tell that story again
@ARTV-
@ARTV- 8 месяцев назад
Yeah. Not gonna if I don’t feel like it really needs to, at least not for the next few years
@iliketrains3495
@iliketrains3495 8 месяцев назад
Thursday, not Tuesday. But yeah, No Devotion, if I remember right they released their second album last year
@lisandroxiii5031
@lisandroxiii5031 8 месяцев назад
@@iliketrains3495 oh I meant to say Thursday lol
@RajaReign78
@RajaReign78 8 месяцев назад
I only liked 2 songs by Creed, but I love Alter Bridge.
@CompositionCritiques
@CompositionCritiques 8 месяцев назад
Crash Thompson might kill me for suggesting this first, but if you were to do a sequel of this video, I would like you to mention how the instrumentalists from Days of the New formed Tantric with Hugo Ferreira since Travis Meeks was struggling with a lot of stuff during that time.
@hunterbaardsen366
@hunterbaardsen366 8 месяцев назад
Alice In Chains continuing without Layne
@ARTV-
@ARTV- 8 месяцев назад
Not what this video is. I actually already did one on bands that carried on without the original singer, link in the description prrtty AIC is on there.
@dannyinoakpark9095
@dannyinoakpark9095 8 месяцев назад
I seen them live and it was awesome I don't know the new singer's name but he sounded just like Layne I closed my eyes for a second and I couldn't tell the difference AT ALL and it was great
@diywrites8703
@diywrites8703 8 месяцев назад
What about Lost Prophets getting past the horrific actions of their former singer and starting No Devotion with Geoff Rickly?
@lethybridtheorygolucastheo2191
@lethybridtheorygolucastheo2191 8 месяцев назад
Probably because he who shall not be name's crimes are disgusting and horrific
@lightlyrusted
@lightlyrusted 8 месяцев назад
Great video
@TheWolfGuardians
@TheWolfGuardians 8 месяцев назад
Lostprophets becoming No Devotion
@skyleague9844
@skyleague9844 8 месяцев назад
Thought about this one, but don’t blame him for not wanting to talk about that lol
@dalatinobrother_1688
@dalatinobrother_1688 8 месяцев назад
Considering Watkins' crimes, I also get it
@father042
@father042 8 месяцев назад
What about Lostprophets and No Devotion?
@christopherwyatt7565
@christopherwyatt7565 8 месяцев назад
Hey man I had no idea of the existence of Wovenwar so thanks for that. I love AILD though. Have you heard the new Austrian death machine single?
@user-rl5gq4rg1n
@user-rl5gq4rg1n 8 месяцев назад
dio from elf to rainbow to black sabbath and dio the band
@stephenjeffrey1982
@stephenjeffrey1982 8 месяцев назад
In Flames -> The Halo Effect
@maxkliegl1951
@maxkliegl1951 8 месяцев назад
I didn't think of that until now. I love The Halo Effect!!
@lifeisaparty
@lifeisaparty 8 месяцев назад
yeah miles really brought out the ~edge~ in creed. ;)
@MsRandom303
@MsRandom303 8 месяцев назад
I read somewhere that Chris was a friend of Zack's and that Audioslave didn't get between them. Is that right? The thought of that makes me, an RATM fan, feel a whole lot better about also liking Audioslave.
@sachitechless
@sachitechless 8 месяцев назад
Very recent instance but Injury Reserve going on as By Storm after the passing of Groggs
@paultomaszewski1964
@paultomaszewski1964 8 месяцев назад
Fun fact, Myles band, The Mayfield Four, was an opening act for Creed which is why they knew him and asked him to join Alter Bridge when Creed went their seperate ways. After agreeing to join, he was asked to join Velvet Revolver but turned it down because he had just said yes to Atler Bridge, then Scott became the front man instead.
@1mlb704
@1mlb704 8 месяцев назад
My preferences: Alter Bridge > Creed Audioslave > Rage Against The Machine Velvet Revolver > Guns N' Roses
@MichaelDooleyProject
@MichaelDooleyProject 8 месяцев назад
Great vid. Hey, Blind Melon without Shannon Hoon. Alice In Chains minus Layne. Do a part 2 based on bands that carried on with new singers.
@RanterInShades
@RanterInShades 8 месяцев назад
Aaaaaah you played my favorite Alter Bridge song in the clip!!
@ARTV-
@ARTV- 8 месяцев назад
😳🫡
@BenAck912
@BenAck912 8 месяцев назад
Blink 182 Vs. +44.
@jay7west753
@jay7west753 8 месяцев назад
Would you review an Opeth record either damnation or still life (which is my favorite)
@burstmistakes
@burstmistakes 8 месяцев назад
I remember hearing makeout switching lead singers and it just hasn’t been close to the same since. like sam was the band itself basically with his unique voice and the band trying to revive under the same name won’t do in my mind
@thunderspike1892
@thunderspike1892 8 месяцев назад
There are some Velvet Revolver live footage with Izzy Stradlin. Did some GNR songs live. Could actually have been GNR without Axl
@maxkliegl1951
@maxkliegl1951 8 месяцев назад
Sepultura -> Cavalera Conspiracy. Just saw Cavalera Conspiracy perform the first two Sepultura releases live, they were insane!
@sargentrowell81
@sargentrowell81 8 месяцев назад
Am I the only one who thinks it's a bit funny that Alter Bridge followed Velvet Revolver since Slash and Myles Kennedy have a band together?
@Spiritofdarkandlonelywater
@Spiritofdarkandlonelywater 8 месяцев назад
It feels weird to me that anyone can be familiar with Velvet Revolver and Audioslave before Stone Temple Pilots and Soundgarden, but such is life.
@ARTV-
@ARTV- 8 месяцев назад
Pre-internet era for me, I didn’t even have dialup til 2003
@Spiritofdarkandlonelywater
@Spiritofdarkandlonelywater 8 месяцев назад
That is pretty late. I found dialup too frustrating to use. I remember the first time I used broadband, which seemed magical, when I went to stay with family in Virginia in 2002. My mother was more tech savvy than me then!
@iliketrains3495
@iliketrains3495 8 месяцев назад
I knew Audioslave before Soundgarden. I guess it has a lot to do with Nirvana and Pearl Jam being significantly more well-known than any other grunge band here in the UK. When Chris died I mostly knew him as the guy who sang Cochise, likely because that was Audioslave's only hit over here (but how I didn't know Black Hole Sun is beyond me)
@Spiritofdarkandlonelywater
@Spiritofdarkandlonelywater 8 месяцев назад
It's probably due to age too, as I'm old (and also British). I liked Temple of the Dog more than Soundgarden, or the first PJ record.
@biconditionals
@biconditionals 8 месяцев назад
Was waiting for Every Time I Die -> Better Lovers until I realised #1 had to be New Order...
@iliketrains3495
@iliketrains3495 8 месяцев назад
Yo I have that exact same Biffy Clyro shirt... well from what I can see of it 👀
@steveshattah
@steveshattah 8 месяцев назад
Check out the story of 80s (seriously) alternative band The Minutemen and how they became firehose after the death of D Boon.
@leeheverly
@leeheverly 8 месяцев назад
Sorry, I could never listen to Queens music with Adams voice, I’ll stick to listening to my old vinyls. I very much enjoyed rage against the machine, but once Audioslave was on the scene, I was hooked, Chris Cornell’s voice with Tom morello’s guitar was so infectious,
@Cleptoonery
@Cleptoonery 3 месяца назад
I’d be sick if you did another one of these because The Doors would be an amazing pick. After Jim Morrison passed away the band released 3 more studio albums with Ray and Robby doing vocals. The albums are alright but they aren’t the same without Morrison so most fans did not enjoy the albums.
@JonathanDiNamesMusic
@JonathanDiNamesMusic 8 месяцев назад
RIP to all the great grunge front runners. Still blows my mind that Stone Temple Pilots were written off as a Pearl Jam rip-off act for so long. It's cool that they are still going, but Scott Weiland will seriously be missed 😔
@RajaReign78
@RajaReign78 8 месяцев назад
I really loved Velvet Revolver that was a great band.
@Camburg44
@Camburg44 8 месяцев назад
Kinda surprised not to see Slaves and Rain City Drive honestly
@ARTV-
@ARTV- 8 месяцев назад
Not sure I’m familiar with those, sorry
@iliketrains3495
@iliketrains3495 8 месяцев назад
@@ARTV- Assuming we're talking about the US band, Slaves was fronted by ex-DGD vocalist Jonny Craig for a while, but I think both them and the UK punk band Slaves have both changed their names now Edit: Rain City Drive is the US Slaves' new name, so therefore I don't think they qualify
@Camburg44
@Camburg44 8 месяцев назад
@@iliketrains3495 I think Jonny's said he wants to bring back Slaves since they aren't using the name anymore. It's a bit of a weird situation but that was why I mentioned it
@nathanallison406
@nathanallison406 8 месяцев назад
I love Guns N’ Roses and velvet revolver but I prefer velvet revolver tbh
@ARTV-
@ARTV- 8 месяцев назад
SAMEEEEEEE
@nathanallison406
@nathanallison406 8 месяцев назад
@@ARTV- I was in their top 10 listeners last years on Apple Music lol
@keithdf2001
@keithdf2001 8 месяцев назад
Ever hear of the bands Genesis or Fleetwood Mac?
@ARTV-
@ARTV- 8 месяцев назад
They didn't change their name...this is about bands who started NEW bands, without the original singer
@harizonflamingice3167
@harizonflamingice3167 8 месяцев назад
Honestly, my enjoyment of Alter Bridge makes it much easier for me to stomach Creed, although if I'm being honest with myself a majority of commercial rock bands in that post-grunge scene I never really minded that much aside from one or two. Velvet Revolver I like but I feel like they could have been so much more, though maybe I'm the only one who thinks that.
@dzonyyya
@dzonyyya 8 месяцев назад
Tremonti firing Scot Crapp and bringing Kennedy has to be one of the best moves anybody ever made. Especially when comparing the impact of the new singers in the other bands from this list, which didn't see much difference in their overall sound/style after the switch. But Myles brings so much, even b-side Alter Bridge songs are myles away from anything that Creed ever put out, pun intended.
@fletchershepherd7039
@fletchershepherd7039 8 месяцев назад
Not exactly the same but David Grohl forming Foo Fighters after Kurt Cobain killed himself putting an end to Nirvana.
@nickgotvyak5890
@nickgotvyak5890 8 месяцев назад
I don't think it is applicable at all because with this definition, QOTSA can be classified as Kyuss replacement and any band started by the former member of another band. In addition, Novoselic never was in foo fighters, and Pat Smere is not exactly fair because he joined nirvana only for touring after the last album and in Foo fighters he was not present for all albums.
@fletchershepherd7039
@fletchershepherd7039 8 месяцев назад
@@nickgotvyak5890 that's why I said it wasn't exactly the same. I see your point. Did Novoselic ever do that after Nirvana ended?.
@nickgotvyak5890
@nickgotvyak5890 8 месяцев назад
@@fletchershepherd7039 Novoselic disappeared from public eye and in 2010s briefly entered local politics, but otherwise nothing in terms of worthwhile musical projects
@fletchershepherd7039
@fletchershepherd7039 8 месяцев назад
@@nickgotvyak5890 thank you for letting me know.
@Lilrainbocoolkid
@Lilrainbocoolkid 8 месяцев назад
Deacendents Vs. ALL
@dmplacencia
@dmplacencia 8 месяцев назад
Nobody could replace Chester from LP, the fans would be absolutely outraged
@joshcooteNZ
@joshcooteNZ 8 месяцев назад
i like boys
@ryanbobadilla2527
@ryanbobadilla2527 8 месяцев назад
I remember when Velvet Revolver was the supposed second coming of Guns N Roses then just like that they were gone.
@IceCar420
@IceCar420 7 месяцев назад
Before i watch one band that comes to mind that did it was Black Sabbath. Sure without Ozzy your not just going to fill shoes but for what they were i think Black Sabbath didn't do a bad job.
@demiantrippi6978
@demiantrippi6978 8 месяцев назад
Jon, Do you consider Tim Lambesis deserves a second chance?
@ARTV-
@ARTV- 8 месяцев назад
Plotting to murder your spouse is kinda borderline unforgivable imo
@elijahjohnson6520
@elijahjohnson6520 8 месяцев назад
@@ARTV- yeah I could never give them another try. I didn’t care for them before that, and I don’t care about them after that.
@ericwolford5685
@ericwolford5685 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, I'm usually supportive of separating the art from the artist, but AILD is one of those few musicians I can't reconcile. They're in the same list as Ye for musicians I can never listen to again.
@iliketrains3495
@iliketrains3495 8 месяцев назад
Are Alter Bridge really considered a supergroup? I'm pretty sure Myles Kennedy wasn't well-known prior to AB, although he went on to sing in Slash's backing band
@yesyesyesyesyesiiii
@yesyesyesyesyesiiii 8 месяцев назад
Should Linkin Park change their name?
@ARTV-
@ARTV- 8 месяцев назад
No
@bert9717
@bert9717 8 месяцев назад
fIREHOSE? Sparta? Hindu Love Gods? Love and Rockets? ALL?
@ARTV-
@ARTV- 8 месяцев назад
Don’t know any of those 🤷‍♂️
@Carl_Johnson_from_grove_street
@Carl_Johnson_from_grove_street 8 месяцев назад
van halen
@emmanuelbongar7370
@emmanuelbongar7370 8 месяцев назад
Sammy Hagar + Michael Anthony= Chickenfoot
@roli9091
@roli9091 8 месяцев назад
You're too shy to put Kajagoogoo on the list? ;)
@ARTV-
@ARTV- 8 месяцев назад
Don’t know who they are tbh
@roli9091
@roli9091 8 месяцев назад
@@ARTV- You're not an 80s kid obviously.;) Don't worry, I just couldn't resist the pun.:)
@lowenbad
@lowenbad 8 месяцев назад
Queen + Paul Rogers > Queen + Adam Lambert
@entil2001
@entil2001 8 месяцев назад
Can’t stand Adam Lambert. It always sounds like he’s screeching the high notes that Freddie used to handle with ease.
@diananik7953
@diananik7953 8 месяцев назад
The reason is probably that you don't understand much about music.
@janulake
@janulake 8 месяцев назад
🤣🤣🤣 You are the first person to claim this. Even Freddie's biggest fans admit that Adam has better vocal skills. He sings the high notes comfortably where Freddie (live) missed them. I recommend an ear doctor and to be sure, comment only on what you understand.
@entil2001
@entil2001 8 месяцев назад
@@diananik7953 🤣🤣🤣
@entil2001
@entil2001 8 месяцев назад
@@janulake I’m far from the only person with this opinion. I like how you have to resort to personal attacks, though. Definitely makes your case stronger.
@janulake
@janulake 8 месяцев назад
@@entil2001 Don't be surprised. You obviously didn't bother to compare the live performances of Freddie and Adam. Otherwise you wouldn't be writing this nonsense.
@jimmymahha4419
@jimmymahha4419 5 месяцев назад
GWAR.
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