@Dickum N Lickum the V: Emperor Of RU-vid. I agree. But how are "white housholds" must suddenly integrate people, so different from them on so many levels? Why should they? I just explain why this reluctance exists towards other races.
That One plus I don’t see what’s wrong with her not being like other girls in that time period they were all awful women if anything you should be happy that she wasn’t like them.
This is when I knew Bryce Dallas Howard didn't get her roles through nepotism. She was sooo good. She truly convinced me!! I hated her in this movie. What a great actress!!!
Jessica Smithey I agree with you, but despite that, there are worse films when it comes to minimizing the horrors of our past. I've seen Hairspray and hated it. I understand that it was meant for children also, but it reduced the suffering of coloured people at the time to, "I just think it's stupid that we can't dance together on tv."
Abileen actually talks about the violence they get as black (Abi son was killed by racist ) hayley also said to skeeter that they were Real racist in this town i think she meant kkk
The way she says, "Don't you want them to take their business outside?" is so unbelievably dehumanizing. That's the way you talk about a housepet, not a person. Just disgusting and heartbreaking.
I take my dog outside to do its business. I couldn't imagine treating another human being like that. The hypocrisy to be fine with them cooking your food and raising your children but then act like they are so dirty they belong outside like dogs. Tragic
I never understood "They carry different diseases than us." Ok...but you're ok with us cooking your food, cleaning your house and raising your children. Our 'diseases' didn't bother you then.
@@tychoderkommentator2989 not necessarily true, in the case of fresh off the boat migrants in some cases you can be regionally susceptible to diseases the locals have an environmentally developed immunity to. Either way their thinking is illogical because these people have lived with them for generations
Exactly. And in the past (though I'd hesitate to guess until when) white people used black nursemaids. So.... No disease in breast milk. I would have liked to see Hilly reminded of that fact. It probably would've been another shit pie episode.
Ironically in the book the only nice thing said about Hilly is that she's a loving and attentive mother to her kids (she has a boy and a girl in the book) and its Aibileen who makes that observation about Hilly because she compares how Hilly and Elizabeth interact with their kids.
The pure disdain I had for Hilly boiled my blood to the point where I've only been able to watch this movie once. A true testament of what a phenomenal actress Bryce Dallas Howard is.
I love Skeeter's response. Basically saying- hey Hilly, you're the one with a problem sharing, maybe you should be the one who gets the worse situation.
You know, Hilly managed to get everyone to hate to the point where when she ACTUALLY ate shit, we loved it.....take a second to think about how great her acting must be to make everyone hate the character. THAT takes skill.
Skeeters the only one who's polite enough to thank Abilene for pouring her drink. She's the only person in the room who respects her enough to acknowledge her outside of being demeaning from her.
I often use to wonder growing up why I didn't really hear the elders of the family talk much about the past. Movies like this reminds me who the hell wants to revisit being treated horribly. No wonder they don't talk about back in the day unless you ask them.
And now you know why, white people get so mad when it IS brought up. They don't want to revisit when their Elders treated Blacks (and other minorities) so horribly! It's also why they always jump WAY back to Slavery.....they don't want to remind us of the BS their White Mothers and Fathers....put Black Mothers, Fathers and children through. They want you to think, it happened soooo long ago, it doesn't matter NOW...... My Father (a Veteran) was 21 when the Civil Rights Act passed......Forced to live Separate but Equal...... True there is no one alive that was ever a slave or remembers slavery but there are PLENTY of Whites and Blacks that are alive and remember what it was like in the 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's!
My mother was from Corinth Mississippi. She grew up with a black "nurse maid" named Carlee. In 1968, I was 5 years old. My parents would take us to visit from Atlanta to my relatives in Corinth. I loved to see Carlee. She would hug and squeeze me harder than my mother. She was a portly woman and whenever she hugged me I remember I just sank in the cleft of her bosom. Sounds strange to remember such details I know. This movie takes me back to that time. I am glad things changed but I loved her so much.
"I'll do whatever it takes to protect my children" gave blacks the stereotype that they're lazy when they literally took care of their kids and cooked and cleaned.
Few things: 1. We see how Skeeter has grown from someone trying to steer the conversation (unsuccessfully) out of respect for Aibleen to later someone who tells Elizabeth off for mistreating her daughter. 2. That dress worn by their friend (Anna "Aca-cuse Me?" Camp) looks like the dress Peggy Olson wore to Easter Sunday. 3. Skeeter is the only woman not wearing pink at that table. 4. Hilly's too girly girl for her age look is made less ridiculous in this film adaptation.
In the book Skeeter does reflect on herself and her behaviour and squirms at the things she said I think its in one of Aibileen's stories where Skeeter says African-Americans pray too much and she's horrified by it. Also at first she's a little annoyed at Aibileen writing her stories because she thinks it'll take up more time with her rewriting them but she agrees and is surprised to learn Aibileen writes two hours or more a night which is more than she herself writes and she only needs to edit and correct the odd spelling mistake because Aibileen is actually a good writer. Very slowly Aibileen and Skeeter build trust and become friendly in fact Skeeter starts to prefer Aibileen over her friends because she knows how they really behave behind closed doors. It really shocks Skeeter how bad some of the maids experiences are. Skeeter really grows up and mature's throughout the book.
In the book its revealed that Skeeter did it because she was disgusted reading Hily's Home Help Sanitation Initiative which she out off printing in the news letter after Hilly demands Skeeter put it in she pays her maid Pascagoula's brothers to put the toilets in Hilly's front garden during the night ready for when Hilly returned the following day from a trip. It makes the front page news of the Jackson Journal but unfortunately it backfires on Skeeter because Hilly uses those toilets towards installing separate toilets for other people'd maids.
In a later scene she writes a newsletter that reads drop old toilets on hilly holbrook's front lawn next thing we see a lot of toliet's on hilly's frount lawn.
@@ashleysmith8402 the movie doesn't include it but in the book Skeeter pays her maid Pascagoula's brothers $25 each to put those toilets on Hilly's front garden during the night when she was away for the weekend
I really feel so sad for the black people back than. How much they went through, the pain and struggled, I can’t imagine. I’m so glad that in today’s age, everyone are treated equally. Bless you and everyone, take care and always respect one another!
Gloria Kalunga I think society are more accepting and open-minded. Look at Meghan Markle, an American accepting into the British Royal, Barrack Obama was elected as US president, Oprah Winfrey, Michael Jackson loved and admired by all around the world, I could name many more. MLK, Rosa Parks, Malcolm X etc fights for justice and equality, and that do help to make a difference.
I love how they're thinking its too dangerous to share bathrooms with black folks but theyre fine with black people cooking their food. 😂 guess that would require them to actually do work though so theyre not gonna try changing that
Just posted under another comment, it was their way to control. A realization I came to being an adult abused child. Those in power always want to control their victims. If they realize or admit it or not.
I love the fact that when Skitter tells Abiline that the radio reminded her of Constantine, Abiline looks at her with an annoyed look and tell her "I know her, we were in church circle" meaning "yes I know her, and I know what you did to her" but when Skitter asks her if she's seen her lately, her face completely changes because she realises Skitter has no idea of what happened to her :(
Skeeter: Maybe we should just build you a bathroom outside Hilly. - Slay it Skeeter! Slay it! Hilly: You need not joke about the colored situation. - Oh she's not. She's just saying that if you are for treating people like an animal that has to go outside to use the bathroom you deserve no better.
Elizabeth and Jolene (the other two friends playing bridge) represent most Americans. They recognize that something is bad, but refuse to do anything because it will "disrupt the natural order", and it's convenient and comfortable for them for things to stay just the way they are. It's only when we step out of the norm that true, positive change happens.
Though this movie is criticized because of its white savior trope I still like it. Besides, Skeeter wants to do what is right. She doesn't treat the maids as maids, she treats them as equals.
As a black person myself (as you can obviously tell fro my cringe profile pic) I don’t take this kind of stuff seriously. People can change overtime, and people who are like this are from a different generation, and I don’t blame them. They were taught this was the right way of thinking. They didn’t know anything else. Besides, most of the stereotypes are pretty ridiculous, anyway, and I like to laugh at myself.
so what if they was taught this way of thinking .. even an idiot could figure out treating people like this is wrong they knew what they was doing and did it with pure malicious intent
You are rational. In my classroom where I was the only chinese kid in that class, we were studying Australian history, part of it was learning about how the government was teying to enforce "white Australia" with slogans like "Two Wongs don't make a white". I laughed out loud. No one did. Funny thing, I was bullied a lot back then and my bullies who'd put me down out loud were also mysteriously silent about this. It's just a slogan of the past and it's a cute English pun. I enjoyed it. I pesonally don't believe they were 100% naive in the past, but I do agree with your thinking and sentiments about this movie.
It mostly happens in arab nations now, like Saudi Arabia and Dubai...its also pretty much slavery often and they take peoples passports away sometimes. This is not a white/black issue....its a global human issue.
Im white and when I was a caregiver, many treated me that way. Right down to using a seperate bathroom. Could NOT use the driveway. Was asked to do jobs that were forbidden by contract...such as washing floors on my hands and knees.
“They carry different diseases...” This part of the movie mentions about Blacks carrying diseases and spreading them to White people. It's just such a shame that even until now there are people who think non-White people carry and spread diseases that White people don't. A prejudicial mentality that continued from the 19th century and in this movie's case even up to the 1960's. It just reminds me that these days there are people blame all the Chinese for spreading the virus, and that has especially led to anti-Asian violence in America, even attacking people who aren't infected. People need to realise diseases and in fact viruses are non-discriminatory: they've affected people from all backgrounds.
Alice Graham and as a black woman the black community is still feeling disgusted because we’re fighting racism right now after all the years it’s a shame smh.
how can you even ask someone something without saying please even if it’s their job? My biggest pet peeve is impoliteness like how can you as a human feel like you are above other humans who are the same as you?
_The book & this movie were so sad. How can living like this not drive someone crazy. I’m so glad I wasn’t born in that era. Viola Davis character was so strong 💪 & had a good heart ❤️ despite it all. It’s crazy how those white women were raised & taken care of by black women. Only to grow up and hate them and do them wrong._
This is our RECENT past, not distant. My grandma turns 101 next month, constantly tells us to be on the lookout for rising fascism. That not long ago she was exiled for inviting her black loved ones to her home.
I work for a very important hotel chain in Cancún. I am a concierge. One day a lady (white) asked me for the shows schedule I told her where to pick a sheet with the information she put a face like 🙄 I told her I will get one for her (as part of the service we offer at the property) when I went back to her With the sheet she told me “ did you where to america for the sheet or what?” And started laughing at me, It really pissed me off and I take the sheet of her hand and I told her to get it by herself... And I told her “By the way study geography you still in America”. Hahhahahaa I wish I had taken a picture of her face and make a meme. 🤣
It's extraordinary - if you take a bunch of children under 5 years old, with mixed race and skin-colour and put them in a room full of toys - within 20 minutes they'll all be playing together, squabbling, laughing, chasing and getting up to all sorts of mischief. We have to be TAUGHT to see people as different races and colours - racism is unnatural and our parents are to blame because that's where we get our values from!
I’m white and every time i see scenes like this (knowing the treatment of poc were a lot worse than this) where poc are treated like dirt gets me so infuriated. It breaks my heart to know at some point we didn’t accept them. And that some people don’t now. It’s something I’m ashamed of even though I’m not racist. I just want to apologize to everyone victimized.
These kinds of people still exist to this extent, just more silently and amongst themselves. Sad. What bothers me is POC had to call them Mam or Sir…ugh drives me nuts.
I love the 50s but my God. How frigging awful. 😢 It's the one part of the 50s that I am speechless about. 💔 Regardless of what color our skin is we all bleed the same shade of red.
The look of fear in Elizabeth’s eyes when Hilly gave her a warning look before stating she never called her back…not a healthy friendship at all. I don’t feel bad for Elizabeth however, she’s pathetic for letting Hilly bully her, intimidate her and basically speaking for her.
@@Starmadien2019 It's not always being against blacks (not each other, because blacks don't like whites, they are against us). Sometimes it's just the cultural gap. So, the skin colour is the last thing that disturbs us. Another thing is to get mixed. Some a repulsed by this idea, and I think rightfully so. Not only culturally it's a disaster for both sides, but especially for children, who are not white/europeneen/ocidental nor black/african. Every so called "american" who is black, is not just american - his grand-grand mother for sure was somewhere from Africa. Biologically it's also not perfectly ok, since the physiology is slightly different in races (different risks of different illness for whites and blacks for exmaple). And so on. I wouldn't want my child brings a fiancé from other race or worse lgbt. Now you with your "acceptance" are just hyporcites.
Why do you have to apply any type of questioning to figure out if it is wrong? If the movie was about people of another race who hated you because of the color of your skin, how much questioning would it take to determine that it was wrong?
I get the whole movie is supposed to show racism in america in this time period, but I didn't understand why some people in the comments feel the need to use the film as a spring board for some anti white racism. Just enjoy and acknowledge the clip.
This breaks my heart too 😞 I honestly hate it when I hear people say “That was the past and we need to forget about it” especially the fact that many whites to this day think that saying “That person in the past was not me” and “I have black friends” is going to expect others to hate them less. Many white people don’t understand the pain that black people went through. I wished white people learned to understand that many blacks are deeply hurt and even still have grandparents that dealt with the same treatment coming from this video. Even though the past is a wound that healed, it still remains a scar that will never go away. I as a white girl cannot deal with the fact that people want to act like the past was nothing and even I feel guilty about my ancestors. I hope that eventually we all come to an understanding about how much pain the past has hurt people 😢😭💔
Gan Len it effected us because it effected our grandparents, who passed it down to our parents, who passed it down to us. And we are still going throw these type of things. Racism is still alive.
Through* instead of being defensive, maybe you should ask those 25 year olds about their own experiences with racism, instead of writing them off because you think that worst of it happened long before us. But how many black ppl have you seen get gunned down in the passed decade ? Over 65k black women and girls have been missing in the US since the early 90s not one amber alert or any news coverage! It’s affecting us because its blatant how clear it is that no one cares about us. Take the time out to TRY to understand; and if you are not black or African American then plz stop trying to pull a seat up to our table with such loud opinions on things you will never experience nor understand.
Gan Len you may think black people in their 20s overreact but they are not at all. Even young people to this day have grandparents and even great parents that had to deal with that pain and those stories are often explained to those who are young adults today which affects them in pain. Yes the past may have been different from today, but that doesn’t mean we don’t have any similarities happening to us in the present. If we don’t have similarities then why are innocent people of color always getting criminalized and shot for false accusations. My ex boyfriend who is African American had a grandmother who dealt with segregation in her early life and he explained me the story which deeply tore me apart. There was also a time where I was in the car with him and his family and we get stopped by a cop for a false accusation. It’s time that you learn that black people have a right to be upset because they are deeply hurt for what their ancestors and families had to go through and it will always remain a scar. This video was a perfect example of how bad the pain was that they had to deal with and we must let those hurt people be given the right to express their feelings cuz forgetting about the past is not going to make a change in our environment.
@@cat_luver0084 black people over react yes slavery and segaration was bad that was many years ago you dont see white people complain about what happend to them in soviet russia you dont see asian people complain about being sent to camps just get over it black people have the same rights like everybody else
