Burton was so right about his choice of Michael Keaton playing the Batman. Nobody has come close to touching his performance since. Bale was a better Bruce Wayne but his spitting, growling Batman with a speech impediment was kinda comical.
@@navylaks2 I absolutely agree. I honestly never understood the casting of Michael Keaton as Batman. There's nothing super-heroish about the guy. Great actor but I never bought him as Batman or Bruce Wayne. I think the people who think he's the best Batman actor are out of their minds but to each their own. I think Bale nailed the role perfectly.
@@navylaks2 no Keaton was definitely a better Batman than Bale, I’ll give him that. Bale felt too try-hard, where’s Keaton had the intimidating presence with little to no words at all.
@@godphoenix66x that’s what made him great tho IMO, he’s someone you’d never expect as Batman so he blends in. Which is what Keaton’s Bruce Wayne is about. He doesn’t want to draw attention and is more of an introvert if anything.
There's always one of those commenters. They were both teenagers and ghost writing was standard practice back then. Without Bob Kane, Finger wouldn't have had a job in comics in the first place! Can't we sleep peacefully knowing one of the many men who contributed to the Batman character got to see the dark character finally get fame & recognition he deserved? I'm sure it made Bob Kane a very happy man.
if they had done Batman 3, who had played with Michael Keaton playing robin chris odonell would seem some real dynamic duo, but always with his darkness
when they announced the making of this movie, people were worried because burton and keaton were primarily known for their comedic work, so we all assumed this would be a campy movie, like the tv series. Then the movie came out, and people were just blown away. It wasn't perfect, but they did get so many things rights, the most important one being a return of the character to what it originally was: A dark, disturbed character, perfectly embodied in keaton's inspired performance
When this Batman came out it was a very exciting time that summer. It was just the summer of Batman, super hype everywhere, fun times. Prince's soundtrack also had some insanity to it, its based on the duality of evil/good, etc. one of Prince's great works. The outtakes are pretty great too.
5:57/ Love how despite the visuals being a bleak, anarchic version of NYC, it was still NYC! The street signage and metal Gotham decals hanging from the lamposts were clearly inspired by the signage along Avenue of The Americas (6th Avenue.) God bless Anton Furst for adding those little touches and details to remind viewers of the real world inspirations for Burton's Gotham City. Just one of the many aspects that came together to make 1989's BATMAN a cinematic classic!🇵🇷🇺🇸😎
The old Batman movies are the best (except for batman and robin with mr freeze). When I see the year and still this movie gives me the thrills I can say only - HUGE SUCCESS.
Just showed how good Tim Burton´s Batman was !!! And the casting of Michael Keaton was NOT wrong !! It was a brilliant ! He needed an actor that had a look in his eyes that told you this man was not sane !!
that was a good one. By 88-89, DC realized it didn't need to revamp anything, so Batman started not to suck anymore. Too bad the people doing Superman didn't figure this out until the mid 90s :)
it's funny how every one takes their film entertainment so seriusly these days, they're just movies, relax, there's room for lots of versions and interpretations. Enjoy what you like, don't watch what you don't.
Same here stephbrakurt. The only difference was that it took me longer than 5 minutes to see what Nolan saw in Ledger. I think it was about 2 months before I saw the 2nd trailer, I started to have hope Ledger could do it. The trailer pretty much proved Ledger was able to pull it off This was way before I saw Insomnia, The Prestige, and Memento, so I had no idea how great a director Nolan was at the time
Thats what I believe too, before you wrote the message. Jack's joker was SO himself in makeup, and the movie was pretty much given to him. A lot of people think Jack stole the show, but the show was really given to him. Heath Ledger is perfect, and noone ever suspected it. Very polite man, nice to be around. Great actor, but played protaganist So when he plays the Joker, lot of people didn't think he would be good at all. But now look.
Nolan Batman Movie= More depth. Great story. Great casting. Burton Batman Movie= Cool looking city, Batman hardly talked, Awsome Bat-ride. Imagine these two guys working together...
Those are right, I must say. The Long Halloween, however, figures more on "The Dark Knight," as witness the triad of batman, Jim Gordon and Harvey Dent. Burton wanted to tell stories of depth and gravity: the general mood of the early 90's, however, did not find it quite very pleasing. That is why Burton himself commended Nolan for putting into play an idea which he wasn't wasn't able to follow through.
Despite the major screw ups with the story, this movie is still one of my all time favorites ever! I can not wait till The Dark Knight comes out though!!!!!!!
The Soundtrack to BATMAN 1989 was (By my opinion) THE BEST THEATRICAL SOUNDTRACK EVER MADE FOR A MOVIE.... Not Jurassic Park, Not BATMAN Dark Knight, not E.T. or any of that shit... Danny Eflman's FINEST WORK EVER was Batman 1989. I still listen to it this day. Beauiful Dreamer anyone?
Fair points. I just found Begins a fairly dry experience. I was sort of into the first half, but I thought the final action sequence was an incomprehensible mess, and as a whole it just wasn't grand, it was more of a crime story that happened to have Batman in it - which, as you've said, was probably the point. Also, and this may discredit me in your eyes for good, but I didn't think Batman Forever was that bad. As for Batman and Robin...well...I think it speaks for itself.
Thanks for your interest but now I know that you're clearly wrong. I've searched the net and I found out these pics are from the Denny O'Neil comics from the early seventies - one of the best ever. I have both TDKR and B:YO and the art in both is VERY different to what we see here.
It´s funny how this video shows that Keaton should have been The Joker back on 89´s adaptation, i mean, his interpretation in beetlejuice(or whatever)shows that fact
Well, that was the point which most miss. You might put it as Batman 1989 is already an established, mature Batman, more for the fans of the comic. That makes sense, as the presence of Batman is alive before. The Nolan series were a reboot of it, a remedy to the plague Schumacher has heaped on the Caped Crusader. They were reintroducing Batman to the kids now, who are lost and may not understand the Burton era if they watched it. Burton roots from Bob Kane, Nolan roots from Moore and Miller.
Bill Finger is getting his due today. Finger is always mentioned as the cocreator by comic historians and journalists. But because of legalities only Bob cane is the official creator with the licensed and official Batman products.
@@AnthonyHeadway Goddamn you responded to a REALLY old ass tweet of mine. Anyway that's true for the comics but not the 89 Batman movie, it was a controversial change to say the least and it pissed off diehard fans of the comics, but I get why Burton did it.
Well in saying that Batman Forever ain't really bad, I would agree. It just so happened that in hindsight, it became tacky for us. Heck, it was actually the first Batman movie I watched in full consciousness. I would also agree with Begins looking like a crime story with Batman. Then again, that's what Batman - and superheroes in general - are for, at least in DC.
Petition Michael Keaton not to return as Batman, but only to don the cape and cowl again to reaffirm that he is the one and only Dark Knight. KEATON FOREVER!
@nightwing01 thats always been controversy but no one can really say the story is always changing... bob told bill about the idea from the the man who laughs and he drew it after... then theres ones that bill and jerry did it...then ones that bill alone did.. bob always said bill drew it but takes credited for the idea ... like stan lee he never designed the characters and to be honest spiderman wouldn't have been a big success if drawn diferently yet he gets all the credit... its a tough one
I understand the differences betwen Ledger´s protrayal and Nicholson´s, while Ledger´s was the dangerous sociopath from "The Killing Joke", Nicholson´s was more the histrionic murderer clown from "Gotham Central", is just that Ledger´s rol was more natural than Nicholson´s, and that is actually some of the reasons people now prefer Ledger´s Joker, but overall both Jokers were good.
The way I see it is that Batman Begins and Tim Burtons Batman are two totally different films. in fact Bob Kane loved Tim Burtons film because it hit every points. Batman Begins is Frank millers version of Batman. Both are good.
so far begins is the best, (im sure dark knight will ultimately be the best bat film ever)followed by 89 batman, then batman forever. any true batman fan who actually reads the source material would agree with me, sure some things are changed here and there but they did pretty well regardless.
"Why do you people always find some avenue to argue? lol sheesh." That's like asking people to not have an opinion. You can be nostalgic and give props. I prefer to live in the modern era and appreciate what is happening NOW - Christian Bale is by far the greatest batman, and Ledger will prove to be the greatest Joker.
I agree as well. They claim to have made both Batman and James Bond more serious for modern audiences, but IMO all they've done is strip the fun out of the characters while still keeping the bad punchlines (eg Oldman's 'gotta get me one of those'). Upon reflection, Batman 89 may not have gotten it all right, but I still find it a lot more exciting than Begins. I haven't bothered with The Dark Knight. Too many people like it, ala The Simpsons Movie. I trust the minority.
the art deco was cool, but really got out of hand, its actualy called German Expressionism. 1920's Norferatu was one of the best of the genre, although there were other awsome silent movies of the era.
It's almost like someone went back in time and stopped Tim Burton from fulfilling his potential. Like in some alternate timeline, Tim Burton isn't a fadshark.
Begins is the best adaptation of Batman, but lets face it, its not the most entertaining of the series, 89 Batman is. Forever definitely changed things around a bit but I feel its a "missed opportunity". If it had been done right, (darker, subplot intact, accurate portrayal of twoface) it could have been the best bat film to date
I know right?!? Even Burton said the role was meant for Jack when it was being written. So its not the Joker we have in 89, we've got Jack playing Jack. Totally hard, I could never act as myself. I can understand if people like the role, but saying its the real Joker? Man I sound like an angry fanboy
Important question for Bat-maniacs: What are the names of the comics that are shown at 1:46 and 1:52? I had it as kid but lost it and now I would like to find it somewhere.
Man, so many arguments! If you reeaally care so much about the integrity of the comics, then mail some checks direct to the writers & artists behind 'em. No matter which movie franchise sells better, they get nuthin. Thankfully Kane & Robinson had SOME input in these things, otherwise DC might as well have made 'em styrofoam coffins (w/ Jerry's waiting)! Personally, I am an 80's man, but I enjoyed TAS the most. Anywho, never saw this clip before. It was swell!