BATTLEFLEET GOTHIC ARMADA 2 | Orks vs Tyranids (1v1 Beta Gameplay Ranked Battle 16) 

They are mushrooms after all. Its ok to feed on bugs.

In true Ork fashion.

Got sum gribblie on me zoggin' windsheidl!

Nothing gets more Orky than that

WAAAAGH!

@@PartyElite scythes of emperor board them as well

‘Nonsense! Guardsmen prepare to board!”

@@helpmereach690subscribers3 omg. Could you imagine a commissar giving that order. Frankly I just take the bullet

@@jeanduhamel9101 the only people in the galaxy brave or dumb enough to board a bid ship is orks or space marines haha

"UH.. YOU SURE BOUT DIS BOSS?"

J amie SHUT YER YAP YA IGNORANT GIT, WE BE BOARDIN’ THAT GIANT SQUIGG LOOKIN’ THINGY ROIGHT HERE AND ROIGHT NOW!

OI! I GOTZ ME A KUNNIN' PLAN!

No it don't! You'z just gotta be Dead 'Ard, ya scrawny grot-lick!

Hahaha the opinion was based on another Ork boy i wuz chattin wiv. He's the git you want!

LETZ GET IM BOYZ!

WHY YA WISPERIN YA GIT

WAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oi u toothless git! All show yoo propah orkiness!

looted Tyrannid ships is nothing more than a large thanksgiving dinner.

Cross 111 if their synapse connections break down (like when big hive ships die) the smaller ships start reverting to their instinctive behaviour, same as when you kill the big gribbles on the ground the little gribbles loose coordination

When you kill their Hive Ship, you are essentially disrupting their synaptic web (similar to what happens when a Hive Tyrant is killed in fluff, or what happened to the Nids at Baal in a Warp Rift). This means that they will revert to animalistic behavior, hence the mutiny.

Probably kill eachother for biomass

The Tyranid wearing the captain hat gets killed by his power hungry first mate, who then takes the captain hat for himself (or herself, Tyranids are not sexist and are quite progressive). After killing the previous captain (likely because the previous bug cheated at cards), the new insectoid captain takes his swashbuckling crew and hive ship on all sorts of merry adventures , seeking booty (figuretively and literally...Cadia sector beware). You can likely read about this in a series of books found on the black library.

Can you say why?

@@Chevalier_knight the orcs are basicly old one weapons made to deal with threats like... well nids xD

@@Chevalier_knight They are locked in combat ATM

Honestly with the right terrain and enough time. Ork vs Tyrannid is a endless war. Orks spawn shooms making more orcs, and tyrannids collect biomass from orcs making more tyrannids. Orkiest battle ever.

Well... The Orkz were bread to fight against the Necrons but on the other hand they are still fairly efficient against the nids. After all they thrive in giant, ongoing, devastating wars more than anywhere else, they are completely and utterly unpredictable, they are basically going to eat anything they come across (meaning that they are gonna get some biomass back from the nids), they can build some strange interpretation of modern weaponry with nothing but scratch, simply because they believe they can. Orkz have defended planets that the imperium simply would have given up and exterminatus'd, simply because Orkz don't look for a way to end fights as quickly as possible or to avoid them alltogether.

Really? I thought the rockets, like scythe missile artillery, the kroot war sphere's launchers and the chaos missile launchers were just macro weapons by another name, with perhaps higher tracking of fast moving ships (I am not sure yet if macro batteries are "guided" in the game engine, but the kroot war sphere definitely seems to be). But generally, yeah. In this game, a lot of the ork capital ships have "heavy gunz" batteries, with a max range of 4500 units, 50% accuracy at that range, and 0 accuracy beyond that.

@@timmietimmins3780 I'm not 100% certain, what I call rocket-type weapons are probably the least numerous in the game, and like so many other things in BFGA 1 and 2 are incredibly poorly documented. You can see the homing quality on things like the Kroot Warsphere's missile launchers, or missile launchers on Chaos ships, that normal macrobatteries just don't have, and personally at least I've never seen those rockets miss, so I'm inclined to assume they home in with perfect accuracy. I could be wrong though, I'm a lot less confident on them than I am on lances and normal macrobatteries.

@@reeve1991 Yeah, I am absolutely not sure either. The kroot warsphere definitely does not autohit: it has accuracy rolloff with range as if it's a macro weapon, and I feel like it does noticeably more DPS at point blank range. So it's like a macro weapon in that sense. The projectiles are drawn as if they are hitting, but they are not all hitting in game logic. AT 13,500, they do less dps than at 4,500. But I am not even sure if macro batteries home in. They seem to have some sort of weak turning towards their target from what I recall, but I am not even sure. And that of course makes zero sense in the lore, but it would make a huge amount of sense for balancing purposes: Eldar corsairs should not just be incredibly fragile or incredibly durable depending on how good the controlling player is at driving them around constantly in a tiny circle (like you do in total war to give a single character like 95% missile resistance and completely break archer AI). And slower ships should not just take 15 times as much damage from macro cannons as eldar battleships, because they cannot bug out the AI gunners, like happens in total war warhammer I and II. It's a cool idea, but it just wrecks the game in a lot of ways, especially single player. I definitely notice that the kroot warsphere's missiles track, and I have definitely not been sure if imperial rounds still do damage if the ship moves out of the way. In games, there is often a difference between "what gets drawn" and "what happens", anyways, so I am by no means assuming that just because some macro rounds didn't visually impact the target, that means the target took no damage, or reduced damage. I know if something else moves into the way, they hit that instead, but I am really holding out hope that the designers were not stupid enough to make eldar ships which constantly change directions just ignore all macro battery fire at long range, but get wrecked by scythe missiles at long range, even though both weapons have pretty similar gunnery tables and costs associated with taking them. And have a newer eldar player who moves his ship in a straight line take 20 times as much damage as someone spam clicking to change direction. as well as just make single player AI useless at long range because it cannot exploit the AI gunnery predicting the future position of a ship perfectly based on speed and heading, but not hedging at all for the question "What if it changes directions".

@Allo That is what he said he was doing, and what he thought was appropriate, but it's also completely incorrect, in this game. Orks have two primary advantages against nids. First of all, they win any ramming engagments, with anyone, period. There is no one that can outram them when they play correctly and they either have "Annuver bridge" picked, or they simply haven't taken a bridge critical yet. And secondly, tyranids cannot defend against carriers while in melee combat, and orks CAN defend against carriers while in melee combat. Nid shields and point defenses are the same thing: nid shields go down? so do their point defenses. But also, you can force the enemy fleet to split by doing this, and isolated ships get crushed in a carrier v carrier battle. Furthermore, in the lore, people think Nids win boarding engagements. That's not the case in the game. It's a wash, really. Nids do have 50% stronger boarding actions, which is a big deal, and against much inferior boarding fleets, they can engage quicker due to frontal boarding pods. But they don't get lightning strikes, meaning ork ships be recrewed with lightning strikes, and each one of those recrews takes a full boarding action from a light cruiser or bigger, or it takes a carrier launch, to decrew the second time. Nids have a lot of front loaded boarding power, but they still rely on carrier superiority to really have staying power in longer fights against really tough boarding opponents like orks: as your boarding actions are 3 and done, and that's not enough against cheap well crewed ork vessels. And orks have a super large crew, so taking a ship out the first time is not easy. 18 boarding strength still needs a lot of boarding actions to take out a 21 crew (that's not total, that's per step of crew efficiency) ork battleship. And tyranids need a lot of time in 4500 range to get those boarding actions out. At which point, you just need to trade boarding actions for lightning strikes 1 for 1. Or the ork can use boarding torpedoes, or strike craft to recrew. And he almost certainly controls the local airspace around the downed ship, as orks outshoot tyranids hard at point blank. Orks are not going to beat the tyranids by decrewing their entire fleet, but they are going to be able to get some decrews on some key ships, and waagghh (spelling?) giving guaranteed crits on boarding actions is going to mess up some ships. and I haven't tested this, but I do believe that given escorts die to any critical hit, and waggh gives +100% crit chance, that should mean that lightning strikes, light cruiser to escort, should one shot enemy escorts when waagh is popped. But to play orks, you have to play to the ork game plan, which is a versatile game encompassing all the tactics that require 4500 range: boarding, ramming, shooting, and cutting smaller cruisers off from their carrier support so you can launch strike craft on them. You can't think "well, I am the closest range fleet in the game and probably the worst capping fleet in the entire game, but my opponent is also a close range fleet, so I am going to try and stay at range and play the capping game". You just don't win the capping game when your escorts cannot run silent, you have no high energy turn, and you don't have bombers to pick off isolated stuff your escorts have spotted. Tyranids win the capping game, easily.

@@timmietimmins3780 Spelling? You mean WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!

And the best thing IS that because every ork believes red things go faster, they actualy do

Found a serious heresy here XD

Merry Slaaneshmas indeed!

NO! ITZ MERRY GORKMAS

By the man emperor this is heresy

I think the lore is that their ships are surrounded by millions of tiny organisms functioning as shields. Or the ships themselves use psychic shields like Zoanthropes. Can't remember which.

I guess, but then I kinda wished they way they implemented if it is the former in a different way, kinda like how they made how the eldar shields are implemented unique to other factions (unless they changed it in BFG2).

Yeah it's the millions of tiny organisms. Should've been permanent reduction of shields or something to set them apart, maybe?

Maybe a bio mass gauge acting as shields/defensive swarm. The value is set by what bio ships you bring and what upgrades or specialisations they have. It might be good for short engagements but they become less effective in drawn out fights as they would be running out of bio mass. Also instead of normal shields, it kinda acts more like the eldar's holo fields where its a percentage chance that shots get through but is unaffected by movement speed but by how much bio mass they have left but maybe give them stronger hulls and hard points than eldar to differentiate them.

Also they should have resistance to fires on board

Also doesn't use any of his abilities, dude had two Nid ships in front of his coming right for him and didn't fire his Torps. I know its a bit late to comment but the guy just seems pretty meh at the game.

I'm glad these videos could be the biscuits to your morning tea =). If you're planning on trying it out, you might want to join our discord if you haven't already - there's a bunch of people who are looking forward to the game, and many of them are super helpful. We're a friendly people!

Definitely will be happening on this channel

Unfortunately, not with this round of the beta! The next one will have me trying it!

When their main synapse creatures, the ones who link the swarm to the hize mind die, the lesser bioforms can become feral when they lose that linking presence, the same happening on the ships when the largest hive ships are destoryed or take too much damage does make sense.

Fly a drop pod down the throat and start stabbing it in the pancreas.

The inside of a Tyranid ship is a lot like a hive. It would be a very dangerous place, not just in terms of the Tyranid creatures trying to kill you but also the environment itself, but a determined enough boarding party would be able to cause severe damage if they were able to penetrate deep enough to hit the vital organs. Presumably the Space Marines would employ some kind of drill rocket pod, allowing them to pierce directly into the heart or brain for a quick surgical strike. As for how *Orks* would do that, well... keep chopping and shooting til there's nothing left to chop and shoot. Orks aren't known for their subtlety. :P In answer to the second question, Tyranid armies work on the basis of psychic links: normally the footsoldiers behave like wild beasts, but by linking up via hivemind to larger Tyranid creatures (called synapse creatures) they can co-ordinate. The synapse hivemind works as both a communications system and an obedience enforcer, as when the synapse creatures are killed their subordinates usually end up reverting to their base survival instincts (which are suppressed when under synaptic control) and rout en masse (in other words, they mutiny). Synapse creatures are the officers and commanders of the Tyranids and are to be considered high-priority targets.

That's thinkin like an ork!

I loved when his ship hit the red button before going drifting, making it a possible moving bomb!

But damn when he did smash into the other ship it was DEVESTATING.

join the chaos?

Kind of - it's turn based strategy with a little bit of management stuff (upgrading ships, building more ships, upgrading planets you secure), and then fighting battles in real time, like this game!

Agreed, he uses the most expensive Battleship orks have (not counting rocks), so he can afford just 4 of them. If he wants launch bays, he should have them on cheaper ships. He should try something like 2 Deadnots (not Unki, but base ones or the other ones for 190 points), couple of Killas (he could just fill the whole army with them) and then maybe a ship with launchbays. With that loadout he should stay at point blank range (set all the ships to 3km range) and ram whenever possible. Ork ships are cheap and you can field a ton of them, but I suspect Mr. PartyElite doesnt believe his micromanagement skills to be capable of that, because he only uses small elite fleets all the time. Even if he wants to use just battleships, the other Deadnots are 50% cheaper and he could field more of them. And he should read reeve1991`s advice...

It seems he managed to kill all "crew" of that ship. Watch the number of "pops" next to the ships health. He did lots of lighting strikes (teleports) + he sent in boarding torpedos and boarding squadrons. Its actually a real deal in The BGA 2 now. In the first one, we didnt have it. Now, you can actually lose a ship becouse of this and it can be in a supreme condition. You can always repopulate it, but it seems tyranids dont have that function (or maybe becouse it was the main synapse ship for tyranids).

@@Alex13501 Ah, I see. I saw the boarding craft, but I didn't realize that is what they were. I thought maybe they were fighters or bombers. Thanks.

if large tyranid bio-froms die, the smaller ones lose they syanpse with the hive-mind, which causes them to become mindless animals

Yes, but the mutiny is a result of losing connections to the higher levels of the network!

Happy little accidents

Real bad. So bad, that they are almost certainly going to be changed for the next beta.

Yeah, they're a one trick-pony with there starpulse generators at the moment...

like jump in -> star pulse and annihilatebenemy?

It's not that hard to cover that weakness.

God forbid you actually try to protect your shit

The will of the hive mind comes via the hive ship. Kill it and the rest of them revert to their base instincts.