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46cm Type 91 (1460 kg APCBC projectile) at 690 m/s
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IS-7 hull front armor (150mm)
Yamato battleship gun:
46 cm/45 Type 94 naval gun muzzle velocity - 780 m/s
690 m/s refers to a distance of approximately 5 km.
Angle of fall at 5 km - 3.3 degrees

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@Tasmosunt
@Tasmosunt 2 года назад
"we failed to penetrate their armor, enemy destroyed!"
@JM64
@JM64 2 года назад
The tank *would* be abondoned, but the only obvious death here is the driver, everyone else *should* be fine as far as I can tell
@Xerroxify
@Xerroxify 2 года назад
Don't forget about ammo stowed behind driver.
@thereynaldosan7695
@thereynaldosan7695 2 года назад
@@JM64 nah, the driver is dead and the turret crew lost their legs... if there is amunition it would explode ass well
@JM64
@JM64 2 года назад
@@thereynaldosan7695 Depends on how comptamentalized things are, 20-50mm plate and the turret crew is fine. And with the angle the spalling would be entering at I'd be surprised if it had enough energy left over to kill after richocheting.
@thereynaldosan7695
@thereynaldosan7695 2 года назад
@@JM64 i think the plate would bounce inside the tank until it lose his velocity
@lasagnakob9908
@lasagnakob9908 2 года назад
Yamato: "We didn't penetrate their armor!" IS-7: *Literally separated in pieces with its entire fore-plate crushed*
@ghostplays2766
@ghostplays2766 2 года назад
We didnt even scratch them!
@mr.waffentrager4400
@mr.waffentrager4400 2 года назад
IS-7 did much better agains yamato 460mm compared to Maus against south dakota 406mm
@fissis1955
@fissis1955 2 года назад
@@mr.waffentrager4400 the angle is a lot different so...
@Eire_Aontaithe
@Eire_Aontaithe 2 года назад
@@mr.waffentrager4400 You again ? As always biased on your opinions
@mr.waffentrager4400
@mr.waffentrager4400 2 года назад
@@fissis1955 oh I didn't see the angle. It's not a huge difference .
@Xiones11
@Xiones11 2 года назад
People look at this and think "Wow the IS-7 could totally survive a hit from the Yamato" The armor, attached to a hypothetical immovable object, could potentially deflect a 460mm round at an extreme angle. That does not translate to a real world IS-7 just having a gash in it. IRL The tank is not an immovable object with invincible structure supporting its front glacis. A 60 or 70 ton vehicle does not have the structure required to dissipate the energy of a 460mm shell. The glacis plate would be caved in and every single weld on the tank broken. No one is surviving that. We know that 16 inch shells are able to crack and destroy the structure supporting turrets and barbettes with nearly 500mm of steel armor from post naval battle damage reports. If 16 and 18 inch shells are able to destroy the supporting structure of a 400 ton turret or 2000 ton barbette on a capital ship, how dumb do you have to be to think a 70 ton tank could take a hit to the glacis and shrug it off without being caved in like a tin can. Penetration doesn't matter. Energy transfer to the tank would be far too much for any bit of its structure to withstand. Capital ships had trouble compensating for the sheer energy transfer with equipment that weighed 10 times as much as this vehicle.
@jaake6091
@jaake6091 2 года назад
Underrated comment
@cunicularius2064
@cunicularius2064 2 года назад
But muh armor penetration
@BatMan-oe2gh
@BatMan-oe2gh 2 года назад
Very well said Sir. And your knowledge is spot on. I too understand the angle it hit, and the damage caused that would basically kill/maim the crew and make the tank useless. Cheers
@matrick5155
@matrick5155 2 года назад
it's hard to imagine such a great scale of energy (and mass) for a human brain. I'd like to see a video where people shot a tank with a big cannon (send me one if you know about it pls). Considering kinetic energy of that shell, it could move the tank if tank was invincible.
@lorenzocampolucci4464
@lorenzocampolucci4464 2 года назад
@@matrick5155 just shooting a big shell 128mm for example) can move a tank. Yes, a little, but it can. Even though suspension will absorb most of it (and the various gun mount and breech recoil absorption system, don't remember the name) so yeah, a battleship shell could absolutely move an indestructible object (assuming the shell it's indestructible too, or it would just dissipate most of the energy as it shatters, and assuming the contact is perpendicular, so the shell does not ricochet off)
@gitfoad8032
@gitfoad8032 2 года назад
It would be interesting to see the effect on the structure of the tank - the adjacent plates & even how it shifts the tank, from that sort of sheer mass-velocity impact. I imagine that's far more complicated to model tho'.
@OmarSlloum
@OmarSlloum 2 года назад
yeah I don't think you can simulate an impact this intense like it's just a tank shot. IRL the force would probably push the steel plates in or break them, and the following explosion would blast the ammo and fuel
@braidenmarques4275
@braidenmarques4275 2 года назад
most welds would probably come apart, and a whole bunch of shit would be dislocated from their original mountings, even the main gun would likely come off its mountings from the sheer force of a 2 ton projectile
@shepardpolska
@shepardpolska 2 года назад
@@OmarSlloum the explosion of the bursting charge would do nothing to the tank considering the fuse is set to a very long delay and the shell was deflected. naval shells have fuses that detonate even 20 meters after impact. A bomb with a bigger charge then this shell wouldn't pose a threat to the tank at that distance.
@thatguyoverthere9634
@thatguyoverthere9634 2 года назад
@@shepardpolska the shell here defelcted but I think in a realistic scenario the plate would cave in/have welds sheer and force the plate into the crew compartment. If that happens then the shell would likely land inside the tank and detonate. The fuse is a time delay after sufficent impact. Assuming the shell continued and hit the the base of the turret or firewall it would likely be triggered if it hadn't already.
@samspeed6271
@samspeed6271 2 года назад
There probably wouldn't be much left of the tank. Welding joints and rivets would be snapped. Armour plates would crumple like cardboard. A hit on the front plate would probably force some of the armour up into the turret, possibly pushing the turret out of the mounting or at least jamming it. If what was left of the tank was recognisable as a tank, it would be a scrap heap job, it would be FUBAR.
@georgivanev7466
@georgivanev7466 2 года назад
WW1 Idea - can you make 37mm AP round from Renault FT against the frontal armour of Mark V or the german A7V, please?
@ra_alf9467
@ra_alf9467 2 года назад
And german reverse bullet against Mark I tank frontal armor
@Mr0_0Gaming
@Mr0_0Gaming 2 года назад
@@ra_alf9467 with upgraded armour or not?
@BaconSpaceProgram
@BaconSpaceProgram 2 года назад
Tankgewehr vs Mk1 also while we're at it.
@HanSolo__
@HanSolo__ 2 года назад
WOW! THE FT-17 HAS TO HAPPEN!
@burnttoast111
@burnttoast111 2 года назад
Only HE shells were available for the Renault FT 37mm gun during WWI, afaik. The 1916 HE shells could penetrate the 10mm *roof* (and probably bottom) of the A7V at up to 500m, if the A7V was on its side, somehow. In which case the A7V has worse problems to worry about. The AP(APCR) shells were first made in 1935. The penetration for these shells at 0 degrees is 25mm at 100m, and 14mm at 500m, so it could penetrate the sides and rear of the A7V (which had 20mm of armor there) somewhere between those ranges. Maybe around 200m - 250m? Still, there were no A7Vs operational at that time, afaik. The 1937 APCR shells could penetrate the front 30mm armor of the A7V at around 100m, and everywhere else at up to 500m. Experimental APDS ammo was made in 1939-1940, which could penetrate the A7V anywhere at up to 500m.
@cookiecraze1310
@cookiecraze1310 2 года назад
Those shrapnel chunks must've been as big as the crews heads. Also the fact that the shell is probably alot heavier than the gun on the IS-2. Edit: Someone pointed out the fact that the gun is, infact, heavier than the round.
@mauser98kar
@mauser98kar 2 года назад
Nah, shell is around 1200-1500-ish kilos, while D-25T weights several tons.
@Fallenking223
@Fallenking223 2 года назад
@@mauser98kar lol
@mauser98kar
@mauser98kar 2 года назад
@@Fallenking223 Lol what? Both British and Japanese 18 inch guns had AP shells weighting 1510 and 1460 kg respectively, while IS-2's gun, D-25T weighted around 2500+ kg. So no, shell like that is definitely and significantly lighter than the whole gun of IS-2.
@Bialy_1
@Bialy_1 2 года назад
@@mauser98kar LoL what are you trying to sell here? If you would want to make a shot with similar amount of energy that was dumped into this IS-7 the D-25T gun would move back so fast that it would not only kill everyone in the IS-2 but also kill everyone in another IS-2 standing behind that tank...
@mauser98kar
@mauser98kar 2 года назад
@@Bialy_1 What the literal fuck are you talking about? He said: "Also the fact that *the shell is probably alot heavier than the gun* on the IS-2." And I replied to correct this statement, since gun of IS-2 is much heavier than the shell of Yamato.
@gameknight2128
@gameknight2128 2 года назад
IDK why so many people are trying to say that the IS-7 would be anything less than obliterated. Even with all the "Delayed fuse" crap, the fact the the front plate is now rocketing into the tank at ~400m/s is enough to render the entire crew dead. These battleship shells have enough energy to rip the boilers from a 2700 to Fletcher class destroyer from their mountings and out the side of the ship. The IS-7 may not be in a million pieces, but it is far beyond being repaired, much less surviving. Even discounting all explosive and shrapnel, the sheer concussive force from the impact has killed the crew. There should be no question that the IS-7 is completely destroyed, just how many pieces it is in.
@LongTran-em6hc
@LongTran-em6hc 2 года назад
The beauty of angle is, most of that kinetic energy is deflected. The tank would still be Kaput, of course, lol
@johnex1029
@johnex1029 2 года назад
Just put a lot of springs and gummy bears inside the IS7.
@hibiki9380
@hibiki9380 2 года назад
"We didn't penetrate their armor." "That one bounce."
@newtypealpha
@newtypealpha 2 года назад
That and the shell is deflecting upwards directly into the turret, which is probably going to turn into a baked potato in the next five milliseconds. OTOH, calling this a "bounce" is all kind of weird. It's like a guy getting his skull bashed in with a baseball bat and someone saying "He'll be okay, the bat never got to his brain!"
@neilkigers8047
@neilkigers8047 2 года назад
Well, while the crew is 100% dead, the tank is somewhat opertional. Just replace some parts at the driver's seat and load with another crew - and you free to go :D
@Szalami
@Szalami 2 года назад
A 1,5 ton projectile bouncing off... STALINIUM CONFIRMED.
@niceyoureadmycomment323
@niceyoureadmycomment323 2 года назад
Stalinum but the whole crew die
@Szalami
@Szalami 2 года назад
@@niceyoureadmycomment323 Of what? Maybe the driver due to spalling but that's about it, the HE doesn't go off.
@tranminhnguyen6217
@tranminhnguyen6217 2 года назад
@@Szalami the whole tank dies, not just the crew if we're speaking realistically
@JM64
@JM64 2 года назад
@@tranminhnguyen6217 Well yes, tanks get abandoned after much smaller holes are punched through them. But the tank crew is more valuable than the tank.
@Aes880
@Aes880 2 года назад
@@tranminhnguyen6217 realistically only the driver die,the shell and spalling wouldnt reach the turret crew
@jianng7795
@jianng7795 2 года назад
It's incredible how strong these armour plates are. Sure, the tank is destroyed, no doubt about that. But the fact that the plate can deflect a shell of that size is amazing.
@bellator11
@bellator11 2 года назад
Providing the simulation is actually at all realistic.
@andrewsuryali8540
@andrewsuryali8540 2 года назад
The plate can deflect the shell IN RELATIVE MOTION. That is to say, in real life the whole plate would detach off its welds and start moving backwards and downwards while the shell is basically still going straight, so from the plate's POV (which is what we're seeing) it thinks oh, I've deflected the shell. From the shell's POV it would be more like, oh, I've deflected the TANK.
@tonyennis1787
@tonyennis1787 Год назад
Shot placement has been selected very carefully. If the nose of the projectile bites, it's going through both sides.
@thebigsad5402
@thebigsad5402 2 года назад
Keep in mind that hms Rodney fired at 3 tigers with its 16 inch guns and while it didn't get a direct hit, the blast was enough to flip 56 tons of tank over. So to the people believing this can be survived, you have a better chance using the duck and cover tactic for nuclear bombs than surviving a direct hit with a 18 inch shell.
@Lung__
@Lung__ 2 года назад
I want to point out that just because the shell didn't go clean through like a hot knife to butter doesn't mean it didn't just kill the whole crew. Shrapnel and the explosion afterwords would have decimated the whole tank.
@Bialy_1
@Bialy_1 2 года назад
Not the shrapnel and not the explosion... the ammount of the energy that was transfered here would cause the tank to move backward instantly and i can bet that the designer did not mounted airbags or even belts for the crew to survive something like that. The tank can now be moving 100km/h backwards from only something like 10% of this projectile kinetic energy...
@GoatGoggy
@GoatGoggy 2 года назад
I’m pretty sure just the pure energy of a ton and a half shell flying at a tank would decimate the crew inside..
@petersmythe6462
@petersmythe6462 2 года назад
@@Bialy_1 Kinetic energy isn't relevant as it just becomes directionless heat and sound. Momentum transfer is what matters. A 1300 kg object having, say, 400 m/s of velocity change from the impact, should transfer about 10 m/s into a 52000 kg object. Enough to hurt for sure but that alone wouldn't kill the crew.
@ShadeAKAhayate
@ShadeAKAhayate 2 года назад
@@petersmythe6462 That's if the projectile glued to the target. It just changed trajectory, partially dissipating -- so there's only a fraction of that energy in the real transfer. Also, IS-7 is 68 tons?
@hallofo8107
@hallofo8107 2 года назад
I think you misspelled a word. "_...would have *DELETED* the whole tank._"
@kdesikdosi5900
@kdesikdosi5900 2 года назад
Finally a relevant simulation, i have always been wondering what would a battleship cannon do to a tank
@ikman4006
@ikman4006 2 года назад
it’s no ordinary tank
@ShadeAKAhayate
@ShadeAKAhayate 2 года назад
@@ikman4006 Against no ordinary battleship :]
@Greis-BB
@Greis-BB 2 года назад
Стимуляция ошибочная. От 460мм снаряда танковая броня просто лопнула бы по швам.
@themanformerlyknownascomme777
@themanformerlyknownascomme777 2 года назад
this simulation is "the exception" (it's not the complete story) and not the rule. most times the cannon would vaporise the tank
@Delta-es1lg
@Delta-es1lg 2 года назад
It would obliterate it lol
@Sha.ll0w
@Sha.ll0w 2 года назад
I'd be interested to see a simulation representing the overmatch mechanic in shells against armor. My suggestion would be 10mm RHS, 80°, tested against 30-37mm, 57mm and 75mm ammunitions of any choice.
@jintsuubest9331
@jintsuubest9331 2 года назад
In actual ballistic science literature, "overmatch" means projectile having too much energy against an underarmor target. End result is projectile pass throught the target with minimal damage. T/D ratio does not have any special implications on anything. It is simply just the lower the value you get, the least the angle would had an influence in the outcome. At no point would a projectile become some magical anti matter bs that phase throught armor. He already did a simulation of 20mm vs 100mm long time ago.
@epsilonadept7301
@epsilonadept7301 2 года назад
The shell bounced off, but the armor flew inwards and shattered everything inside.
@STG44musikmeister
@STG44musikmeister 2 года назад
I'd like to see a Yamato surface detonated HE shell simulation. As multiple real world tests have shown tanks generally fare poorly against HE 155mm and up. Things tend to get blown apart.
@MrOiram46
@MrOiram46 2 года назад
that tank would be gone, reduced to atoms; Yamato had 6x155mm guns as secondaries too
@shellshockedgerman3947
@shellshockedgerman3947 2 года назад
@@MrOiram46 Depends on which year it is. Either 6 or 12 155mm guns.
@NK-qn6pq
@NK-qn6pq Год назад
Probably not atoms, but it definitely would not be in one piece.....
@TheLittleGuy1
@TheLittleGuy1 2 года назад
Comrade: Commander we bounced the Shell! Commander: Yes... but at what cost? *Whips bits of driver off uniform*
@ml-fishing1341
@ml-fishing1341 2 года назад
Cool to see the plate deflect in the simulation at this angle, but I'm pretty sure I'm real life the weight of that she'll at that speed would shatter the tanks structural integrity, plus the explosive filler would be like a 100+Lb bomb hitting the armor directly. Which would kill the tank too
@NK-qn6pq
@NK-qn6pq Год назад
The angle of the hit is kind of unrealistic. If it hit at a less shallow angle, the tank would be in about 100 different pieces afterwards.
@jammygamer8961
@jammygamer8961 2 года назад
so the shell ricocheted but still destroyed the IS-7s left front plate completely. In the future could you test the E-100's upper front hull against a battleship weapon?
@LordOfChaos.x
@LordOfChaos.x 2 года назад
The upper plate could potentially deflect the shell without breaking but spalling would still most likely kill the crew
@aslamnurfikri7640
@aslamnurfikri7640 2 года назад
I don't care about stats, if you're shot by a battleship you're having a bad day
@jammygamer8961
@jammygamer8961 2 года назад
@@aslamnurfikri7640 obviously
@jammygamer8961
@jammygamer8961 2 года назад
@@LordOfChaos.x nah if the shell hits the hull unangled the results will be similar to the IS-7 who had its plate hit at an angle
@LordOfChaos.x
@LordOfChaos.x 2 года назад
@@jammygamer8961 nah u are overestimating its size
@jeanmouloude
@jeanmouloude 2 года назад
”captain you killed a child” *MISSION COMPLETED, NICE JOB*
@punisher3607
@punisher3607 2 года назад
Wow, surprising to see a 46cm shell ricoched. But there is some internal spalling. Now do the 128mm VS IS-7. VERY nice as always
@Napswhilewatchin
@Napswhilewatchin 2 года назад
"some"
@satanhell_lord
@satanhell_lord 2 года назад
>"Some" internal spalling The whole shape of the shell in 150mm thick steel plate is being projected INTO the tank, this isn't spalling anymore. I can bet that the turret crew is gonna loose at least a pair of leg, if not more.
@Malakin0
@Malakin0 2 года назад
some internal spalling?? it demolished the front plate and sent the plate flying at hundreds of meters a second through the tank! that tank is totaled, not even taking into account that the shell remained intact and prob would have detonated as well afterwards which with the gaping hole in the tank prob would do some more killing of the crew thanks to the pressure. the shell might have gone ahead and penned the turret after the bounce too.
@justuseodysee7348
@justuseodysee7348 2 года назад
With large shrapnel like that this should be considered as penetration. That said I expected the shell to go all in and blow up inside insta killing the whole crew
@Jawzzy
@Jawzzy 2 года назад
@@Napswhilewatchin Hahah. "some spalling" Right. That's a 200lbs chunk of armor shot inside the tank, turning everyone into pink mush.
@santossteven97
@santossteven97 2 года назад
Igor: Our Tank gets hit by a 46 cm Shell. Dimitri: Nice Joke Bro.
@kamilszadkowski8864
@kamilszadkowski8864 2 года назад
Jesus. The entire plate collapsed and the projectile itself would probably hit the turret and either penetrate it or severely damage the turret ring. Edit: I actually wonder if the direct hit to the turret could rip it off...
@wurfyy
@wurfyy 2 года назад
I reckon that if the shell bounced upwards into the turret like that, it would just take the turret off.
@AndrOlvir
@AndrOlvir 2 года назад
i don't think so , maybe it would just bouce off due to the angle of impact and much ticker turret armor or maybe if the round somehow managed to get under the turret ring it could ripe the turret off.
@Procrastinater
@Procrastinater 2 года назад
@@AndrOlvir It would take the turret off, even if it glanced off the turret as well due to extreme angles. That is assuming the bursting charge had not already detonated.
@TheBawbSaget
@TheBawbSaget 2 года назад
@@Procrastinater you're living in a world with looney toon physics
@ohlookadragon
@ohlookadragon 2 года назад
@@TheBawbSaget i cant really comment on the pyshics but the yamato shell weights 3000lbs /1400KGs
@Temmie444
@Temmie444 2 года назад
another great video, keep up the good work
@santossteven97
@santossteven97 2 года назад
Please make more WW2 Armor Videos, German vs Allied Tanks and Battleship vs King Tiger etc. I love your vids. 🙃😀
@fabrifornasiero
@fabrifornasiero 2 года назад
I'd expand the computational domain because I'd say that the boundaries condition are non-fisical due to the extreme forces exerted. Very cool experiment though, I love your simulations!
@chris6796
@chris6796 2 года назад
Yeah. What he said.
@Hepad_
@Hepad_ 2 года назад
I agree. At least simulating the response of a weld or a rivet junction would be nice. I doubt the tank's joints would survive this, it would probably dislocate and ring like a bell.
@oberstwake
@oberstwake 2 года назад
Man, there are a lot of dumb people here that seem to think the crew would survive and the tank would not be a total loss. The kinetic energy from this shell would be roughly the equivalent of a 76 ton object (~another IS-7) hitting the tank at 216 KPH (~136MPH). The force of the impact alone, besides sending a huge slabs of steel into the interior at 200 m/s as the simulation shows, would likely break the necks/skulls/bodies of the crew inside as they were thrown about. Add on top of that an explosive detonating probably less than
@tungsten_core
@tungsten_core 2 года назад
1460 kg at 690 m/s would be equivalent to 76 tonn at 13.25 m/s, or 47.7 km/h
@oberstwake
@oberstwake 2 года назад
@@tungsten_core K.E.=(1/2)mv². Type 91 shell=> (1/2)*(1460kg)*(690m/s)²= 347.5 MJ....My Equivalent=> (1/2)(70000kg)(100m/s)^2 = 350 MJ. If I had to guess, you messed up your velocity value, possibly forgetting to convert to m/s?
@tungsten_core
@tungsten_core 2 года назад
@@oberstwake yeah nevermind i messed something up
@Katniss218
@Katniss218 2 года назад
I didn't expect this AT ALL. I thought it'd just punch straight through. Damn..
@TheLiamis
@TheLiamis 2 года назад
In reality the tank would be almost vaporised. Look at the remains of pz 4 hit by either a 14 or a 16 inch gun. There are 2 or 3 pieces if metal left.
@Katniss218
@Katniss218 2 года назад
@@TheLiamis There's a big difference between a Pz IV and an IS-7 The protection of them is literally incomparable.
@ioannisstrategos221
@ioannisstrategos221 2 года назад
@@Katniss218 I mean, yeah, they're not very comparable. But, just because the IS-7 wasn't melted, look at the spalling. That's absolutely a kill on the IS-7. I can't imagine what opening the tank would look like, let alone looking in the massive hole in the UFP to peer in and see the thoroughly liquified crew. But, I'm in agreement. I'm not sure how the IS-7 took a hit without collapsing, but I think that's beside the point.
@Katniss218
@Katniss218 2 года назад
@@ioannisstrategos221 Well obviously it's a kill. Nobody's arguing against that. I was just surprised that the plate actually managed to deflect the shot (albeit at a huge price)
@looke3392
@looke3392 4 месяца назад
​@@Katniss218it could only deflect it because the armor is stuck in place, in reality that 460mm shell would cause the entire tank to crumble as the energy transfer would destroy every weld
@DavidBainGaming
@DavidBainGaming 2 года назад
To be fair the simulation has chosen an impact angle that makes for higher survival chance, the shell would be plunging at a far steeper angle than shown making it far more likely to penetrate than ricochet
@dieente556
@dieente556 2 года назад
"survival" i dont think so man
@tylerslagel5485
@tylerslagel5485 2 года назад
I didn’t know that a 0% chance of survival was high.
@sayhallo3769
@sayhallo3769 2 года назад
The shell would transfer so much raw energy that the tank would be ripped apart.
@NK-qn6pq
@NK-qn6pq Год назад
Even if it wasn't sent flying, the spalling would kill everyone easily. An HE shell would be better though, even a near miss would be fatal due to it's explosive power...
@samspeed6271
@samspeed6271 2 года назад
The question is, what state would the crew be in? Chunky salsa, smooth salsa, tomato ketchup or tomato soup? I'm going to say smooth salsa if the HE filler didn't go off, or a thick ketchup if the HE did detonate.
@Nightdare
@Nightdare 2 года назад
Ground meat
@seemslegit6203
@seemslegit6203 2 года назад
The HE filler alone would paste them, while the tank would literally crumble on top of them
@maxwelllittle5291
@maxwelllittle5291 2 года назад
I wonder if in this case an uncapped shell might do better - it seems like the softer steel on the shell nose is actually helping it be deflected at that degree of angle. Seems to be similar to a potential deck hit at close to medium range - we know historically that ~6 inch plates on battleship decks would provide protection inside of 10-15km against Battleship shells even though in that case the plate is much larger although the thickness is similar. I wonder what range that impact angle shown (15-20 degrees?) would occur at when hitting horizontal armor?
@pandabear4321gogo
@pandabear4321gogo 2 года назад
Your videos are fantastic....can you have a metal plated hand sticking it's middle finger up, going into a steel plate going 1 (or 10) km/s? THANKS!
@whyjnot420
@whyjnot420 2 года назад
And here I was hoping that he had modeled a wave motion gun. >_>
@HeIsAnAli
@HeIsAnAli 2 года назад
Depending on the pattern of the spalling, the crew might as well be on the receiving end of a Wave Motion Gun.
@appa609
@appa609 2 года назад
The momentum transfer would throw the IS7 back at 60 kph if it could hold together. Which it would not. The turret would 100% be blown off the hull
@justinblin
@justinblin Год назад
Thanks! The next time I’m in my Yamato, I’ll know exactly what I need to do to destroy an IS7
@otaviodossantos6679
@otaviodossantos6679 2 года назад
The coolest simulation I've ever seen!!!
@ikill-98
@ikill-98 2 года назад
Wait ten seconds for the driver replacement
@racernatorde5318
@racernatorde5318 2 года назад
Not sure what is scarier: Knowing how thick that armor plate is and how big the round must be. Or how that massive round gets deflected. Or how it still destroys that armor plate like butter. It reminded me of some video of some shooting range, where they fired a 155mm gun at a bunch of watermelons and the shell actually got deflected after just ~6 melons. I don't actually know if they even found the round afterwards, cause it got deflected upwards
@halla9538
@halla9538 2 года назад
Let me guess, filmed in slow mo?
@racernatorde5318
@racernatorde5318 2 года назад
@@halla9538 Yeah, that should be the one
@halla9538
@halla9538 2 года назад
@g00gle minus I applaud the effort you put into this. It looks like it must have taken a while to write. But i dont remember talking about the armours effectiveness on the battlefield, or the ammunition. This is a animation of a computers simulation of a battleships shell being fired at just one piece of a whole tanks armour. The only way this could be made more accurately would be to take the real tank and fire one of the Yamatos guns at it to see what happens.
@Ealsante
@Ealsante 2 года назад
@g00gle minus The effort you took to write the post only makes its stupidity even more laughable.
@m2heavyindustries378
@m2heavyindustries378 2 года назад
@g00gle minus How in the world do you know which part of it was incorrect? Did you do your own testing? No? Guess you don't then.
@erikg007
@erikg007 2 года назад
Could you do another animation with the shell coming more from above? I think battleships rarely hit their target with the shell pointing straight forward. It would be interesting to see the difference with some alternate trajectories.
@t3papa468
@t3papa468 Год назад
日本語で失礼します、私もそう思いました。 戦艦の水平射撃ならほんの数百mからの射撃だと思います、木っ端微塵でしょう。 現実を無視している様に見えます、上からあの砲弾が落ちて来たら…….想像するだけでも恐ろしいです。
@numbersletters3886
@numbersletters3886 2 года назад
Would the bursting charge have gone off? I love the cap separating after deflection. Thank you very much for making these!
@armorhide406
@armorhide406 2 года назад
Doubt it, they were designed to punch through much more armor first
@TheMemeDynamics
@TheMemeDynamics 2 года назад
So that's how strong the IS-7's armor is when it gets hit by an 460mm shell! Its actually really impressive.
@tinycockjock1967
@tinycockjock1967 2 года назад
Stalinium
@liamjames5123
@liamjames5123 2 года назад
Stalinium superior to Yamato
@Bialy_1
@Bialy_1 2 года назад
@@liamjames5123 The tank have armor to protect the crew, ammo and its components... and you can forget about the crew, they smashed into that tank interior few ms later because the body of the tank is now moving with speed of at least 100km/h and it is not important how many shrapnels or did the ammo exploded, the tank gonna act now like a tank toy kicked by some proffesional football player...
@drsm7947
@drsm7947 2 года назад
460mm HE should kill any tank ever made
@domaxltv
@domaxltv 2 года назад
its not, just a shit simulation, that shell would basically just yeet its ass right through in real life
@GreenCoatGaming
@GreenCoatGaming 2 года назад
You know, when i clicked this one i didnt know what I expected, but it definitely wasn't this.
@Salamandra40k
@Salamandra40k 2 года назад
The shot of the strain on the back at 0:13 looks so cool ngl
@MrZazzles94
@MrZazzles94 2 года назад
TC: "We aight?" *Driver peers through new passenger window* "Yeah we aight."
@noxj_
@noxj_ 2 года назад
In wot be like; Commander:OH NO YAMATO IS READY TO SHO- driver:**very deady sounds** Commander:im.........not dead? Loader:ready to shoot sir
@Bialy_1
@Bialy_1 2 года назад
Commander and loader are now on the internal wall of the tank pretending that they are some kind of modern art instalation and the tank is doing 100-200 km/h from the kinetic energy that this impact was able to transfer into the tank...
@gicady
@gicady 2 года назад
"The red army is the strongest" starts playing*
@Olympic.400
@Olympic.400 2 года назад
IVAN THAT IS-7 DEFLECTED A WHOLE 18 INCH SHELL! LET'S CHECK THE CREW! *body parts scattered all around* Oh boy..
@nadiaroler6314
@nadiaroler6314 2 года назад
Isn't that the front armor plate? If so then the turret would make a nice stop for the deflected 1.5 ton shell. Would be interresting to see that as well.
@abscentee9856
@abscentee9856 2 года назад
This is so satisfying, big ass BB shell bounces while still causing an obscene amount of damage to the plate.
@santossteven97
@santossteven97 2 года назад
Its amazing how the IS 7 armor deflect that 46 cm naval gun shell.
@wampyr88
@wampyr88 2 года назад
it would explode and delete the tank lol.
@matejhromin2925
@matejhromin2925 2 года назад
@@wampyr88 assuming the fuse got trigered, which very well might not have happened.
@nobodyuknow4911
@nobodyuknow4911 2 года назад
only at a hyper-extreme angle making it a completely glancing shot... Meanwhile, the 3,000lb round and the 136lb of high explosive bursting charge would have obliterate the tank anyway.
@LordOfChaos.x
@LordOfChaos.x 2 года назад
@@nobodyuknow4911 delayed fuse
@urlond9371
@urlond9371 2 года назад
@@matejhromin2925 Even an HE Shell of a naval gun would obliterate the tank even if it didn't pen. The chances of the Yamato gun actually bouncing a shell this size would be like 1 in a million chance.
@Killerean
@Killerean 2 года назад
Impressive how the immovable plate stood against that shell. I guess if it was a real tank though the tank would go flying :D.
@nerobernardino88
@nerobernardino88 2 года назад
Yeet the Tank!
@NK-qn6pq
@NK-qn6pq Год назад
or it would be an HE shell and there would be nothing left of it.
@campanaro_99
@campanaro_99 Год назад
Could you simulate like an engine block or whould that take too much time? It whould be nice to see the effect of these projectiles on the mechanics of a veicle
@Pheramix
@Pheramix 2 месяца назад
I stand in awe at how, while absolutely fucked over by the sheer kinetic energy, the armor still managed to ricochet the shell
@GodofWeird
@GodofWeird 2 года назад
Funny how my favourite battleship shell is going against my favourite tank armour. Very impressive.
@alexthegreat5009
@alexthegreat5009 2 года назад
I think you got a very balanced answer considering these two are your favourites
@GodofWeird
@GodofWeird 2 года назад
Yes. This only makes me happier.
@cookiecraze1310
@cookiecraze1310 2 года назад
A 46 CENTIMETER shells vs a 150 MILIMETER plate. I wonder who would win?
@boogiebomber2191
@boogiebomber2191 2 года назад
Is this a suggestion?
@valacarex5752
@valacarex5752 2 года назад
150mm plate
@cookiecraze1310
@cookiecraze1310 2 года назад
@@boogiebomber2191 edited because my monkey brain wrote 12mm instead of 120mm
@cookiecraze1310
@cookiecraze1310 2 года назад
@@valacarex5752 changed it to 150mm
@valacarex5752
@valacarex5752 2 года назад
@@cookiecraze1310 👍
@ycplum7062
@ycplum7062 Год назад
I am curious. I really am not familiar with the boundary limits of the model. If the armor was modeled as a bigger plate, would the shell cave in more of the armor plate?
@Emdiggydog
@Emdiggydog 2 года назад
Could you test some large tank guns and howitzers against Battleship armour?
@pavelslama5543
@pavelslama5543 2 года назад
If Yamato ever bombarded an IS-7, the shell would land slightly from above, reducing the impact angle.
@EdwardDowner
@EdwardDowner 2 года назад
Already taken into account, it's in the very first picture of the video, and also listed in the description.
@Selvor96
@Selvor96 2 года назад
Wow that shell could not penetrate stalinum
@alexandergrushevsky4528
@alexandergrushevsky4528 2 года назад
looked for that comment
@kittycatcat6962
@kittycatcat6962 Год назад
I'm only a level 7 armchair general with a +3 buff to my rage mana.... This has to melt the is7 after it crushes the forplate... It never ceases to amaze these videos especially how strong newer Russian apfsds is... Keep up the vids bro
@dictolory
@dictolory 2 года назад
the shell didn't even go through cuz of the angle yet it just deleted the armor. it's pretty cool watching shells with such mass hit armor
@anonymous-rb2sr
@anonymous-rb2sr 2 года назад
In this simulation the ends of the plate fail and are snapped off, would that have happened if the other pieces of armor were simulated? For example, the back "wall" of the armor piece isn't supported in this and bends inwards, it wouldn't have been able to do that if there was a plate behind it, the right side of the plate also fails, but this time I wonder if it would have failed, not because there is a piece missing, but because the tank would have been moved, the energy would be transfered to the rest of the tank and the suspension system, here it snaps off but I feel it does that only because the outter edge was magically pinned in place in the simulation, with a full tank it would have moved the entire hull and the stresses at the edge would have been much lower
@jetfighter200
@jetfighter200 2 года назад
would be interesting to see the rest of the projectile hitting the turret
@stolek6908
@stolek6908 2 года назад
Is 7 stood like Stalin himself.
@rendelbariuan7583
@rendelbariuan7583 2 года назад
46cm Type 91 (1460 kg APCBC projectile) shoots is 7's frontal armor its bounce but the armor is got a big O hole is 7's S-70 130mm HESH shells shoots on yamatos conning tower (the half of the crew died).
@Wuerstchenmann
@Wuerstchenmann 6 месяцев назад
It's incredible trying to imagine something so powerful it bounces off of 17cm angled armour and still penetrates it through raw force.
@johnmaddox1712
@johnmaddox1712 2 года назад
now here’s a question though, does this simulation only regard the ballistics of the shell? Wouldn’t the shear force of the blast annihilate the armor?
@J-1403
@J-1403 2 года назад
The muzzle gasses? This simulates impact from 5 km away.
@Procrastinater
@Procrastinater 2 года назад
@@J-1403 He means the bursting charge within the AP shell.
@JM64
@JM64 2 года назад
Naval shells have a large delay on the fuze to ensure maximum internal damage to enemy ships (we're talking 10+ metre [over 30 feet for you Yanks] delay) The blast would occur a good distance from the tank if it even triggers to begin with.
@cenakaze
@cenakaze 2 года назад
@@Procrastinater the blast will only create a cone shaped shrapnel field, after the shell travel several meters away from the tank because of its fuse. The 136 lb of charge won't have much effect on the side of the IS-7 after spending most of the energy bursting out from the armor piercing core.
@Procrastinater
@Procrastinater 2 года назад
@@cenakaze the shrapnel will cone away from the tank yes, the blast wave will still reach it just fine.
@santossteven97
@santossteven97 2 года назад
King Tiger 8,8 cm KwK 43 vs Pershing Front Armor 17 pdr vs King Tiger Front Armor
@hitoshisawa8479
@hitoshisawa8479 2 года назад
Omg thank you so much !!
@xRepoUKx
@xRepoUKx 2 года назад
It would be nice to see what happens with the shell once it's ricocheted off the glacis. Presumably it's going to take out the turret?
@pavelbaricak
@pavelbaricak 2 года назад
Absolutely.
@mewXD-mn6ec
@mewXD-mn6ec 2 года назад
You do know that the japnese shells are different and that their ability for their windsheild to be broken off upon impact on water (so that the shell blast would damage the target despite not hitting it) actually gives the shell a much better grip on surfaces at angles. Besides the shell would most likely have been an HE and it wouldn’t need to hit anywhere on the tank to kill it
@marekukawski202
@marekukawski202 2 года назад
So do You want me to belive that 18" Shell fired from Yamato Battleship wouldn' disintegrate a tank. Seems legit.
@hibiki9380
@hibiki9380 2 года назад
It would. This simulation doesn't use the full tank so you wouldn't see the whole damage that's inflicted.
@holski77
@holski77 2 года назад
is the armor held in place, or is the inertia of the tank considered, allowing the shell to push the armor back in space?
@mikedunn7795
@mikedunn7795 2 года назад
Some heavy duty spalling with those hits.
@blobman1238
@blobman1238 2 года назад
Verified oof moment
@Duraltia
@Duraltia 2 года назад
Are you _really_ trying to tell me a tank could bounce an almost 2m long and 1'460kg heavy shell coming in at 690 m/s like that? 🤔 Aaaanyway... Dora/Schwerer Gustav 80cm Shell is next, I guess? 😉
@JM64
@JM64 2 года назад
At that angle yes it could bounce, drivers still dead tho if it helps you sleep at night
@catalintrandafir9736
@catalintrandafir9736 2 года назад
I am curious if the shock of the impact would be so massive that it would kill the entire crew. Even smaller caliber rounds like 50mm AP shells hitting a T34 would still your head ring pretty badly even if it bounced off completely. Imagine if a 50mm shell that has 2.06kg does that to you by just bouncing, what a 1460kg shell would do. I think that even if no spalling hits the people in the turret they would still be killed.
@jintsuubest9331
@jintsuubest9331 2 года назад
He does not have technical specifications of the 80cm shell, because the German destroy them.
@JM64
@JM64 2 года назад
@@catalintrandafir9736 Probably not? The crew would likely aquire a headache and some form of hearing damage (at least likely) but should be fine overall. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_weapon The wikipedia on Acoustic weaponry suggests physical harm caused by sound alone requires EXTREMELY loud noise (frequency =/= loudness) with experiments in mice showing lung and liver damage at about 184 db (for reference a jet engine is 120-150 db depending on distance) and decibels grow in power and amplitude exponentially with a difference of 6-10 db being a perceived doubling in loudness (6-10db because we don't perceive sound linearly either) So even if the shell was capable of reaching 184+ db the crew would have to be exposed to the sound for an extended period of time to suffer anything more than a headache and hearing loss.
@catalintrandafir9736
@catalintrandafir9736 2 года назад
@@JM64 While I agree that the sound of the impact would not be enough to kill anyone, as it might have been understood from my initial statement, which partially implied this, I was also reffering to the kinetic energy absorbed by the bodies of the crewmen through the hit tank hull, that might kill them. On the other hand, my experience in physics isn't that great so it is hard (for me at least) to tell how much of the energy of the shell gets transformed into the deformation of the armor, how much still remains in the shell after it bounces, and how much is transfered as kinetic energy to the tank and subsequently to the crew.
@stein5763
@stein5763 2 года назад
Can you make a video testing an average 7.92x57mm round from an MG34 against the 15mm front plate of a T-26?
@randymagnum143
@randymagnum143 2 года назад
In what scenario would it be firing straight on? The shell would come in in a downward arc and go straight in, explode, and turn it inside out.
@MrRandom543211
@MrRandom543211 2 года назад
Me seeing it deflect: wow, the is7 sure is tough! Then seeing the chunk of missing armour afterwards: ... I sure hope the crew is rated to stop spall fragments
@arturjogi2667
@arturjogi2667 2 года назад
Spalling? That's the entire plate!
@joebrennan8001
@joebrennan8001 2 года назад
So although a gaping scar was caused in this plate,would the tank be hit with enough force to knock the tank over or push it back etc etc? And would the crew inside just be like jelly? I also understand that fragments and spalling and just the straight shock would kill crew too? Is she shell an explosive one? Just curious how the tank would fair.
@seemslegit6203
@seemslegit6203 2 года назад
The impact would shatter the front plates and hull break the entire tank, while the explosive filler would break anything that managed to survive
@mauer594
@mauer594 2 года назад
Would you consider doing a video on the 45mm 20k Cannon?
@crudboy12
@crudboy12 2 года назад
There is a clip online of a 155mm? HE round bouncing off the roof of a Lada so impact angle can make a big difference.
@fematrailer
@fematrailer 2 года назад
I'm not too familiar with naval guns, so forgive me if this is a stupid question, but would a hit at this angle be unable to detonate the explosive charge? I understand the purpose of the simulation as well as how difficult it would be to simulate the explosion and its effect on the armor, but that would be a very interesting thing to see. That is, to see how the explosion affects the damaged section of armor immediately after impact and whether the explosive force is directed inwardly from outside of the hull (since the projectile is detonating outside the tank) or if any of that force goes in through the breached armor and is directed outwardly from the inside of the tank. Thanks for the video!
@user-dp7kz3lh9t
@user-dp7kz3lh9t 2 года назад
The ship's shells have a long fuse delay, so the shell will explode a few meters from the tank.
@Ropetor
@Ropetor 2 года назад
@@user-dp7kz3lh9t Not really, yamato has a long fuse delay but the impact would deaccelerate it a lot and activate the fuze. Also even if it exploded far away yamato type 91 shell carries 32 kg of shimose high explosive
@shepardpolska
@shepardpolska 2 года назад
@@Ropetor The shells are made to detonate deep in the ship, the fuses are set to 10+ meters AFTER the shell penetrates, a deflection like this would decelerate the shell less. 32kg of bursting charge is less effective then 32kg of charge in a HE shell, which at the distance the shell would detonate, wouldn't do much to the tank if anything at all. Bombs needed to land way closer to tanks less armored then the IS-7 with bigger HE fillers to damage them.
@Hakurou6636
@Hakurou6636 2 года назад
@@Ropetor but IS 7 is able to resist a direct hit from 132kg agm
@Ropetor
@Ropetor 2 года назад
@@Hakurou6636 Yamatos shell weighs more then 1200 kg, 32 kg is the bursting charge
@charlieinthe_box
@charlieinthe_box 2 года назад
"Ricochet" WE HAVEN'T NAILED HIM!
@annamorawska8281
@annamorawska8281 2 года назад
Nice simulation
@bogdandragan289
@bogdandragan289 2 года назад
Can you make one where there is a track over the armor plate just how it is in real life?
@Alitmos
@Alitmos 2 года назад
We’re assuming the friction of such a mass at such a velocity isn’t going to just take the tank and fling it some other direction. Instead, the tank is firmly planted for the duration of contact with the round.
@Blackmage4001
@Blackmage4001 2 года назад
As well, we're also not assuming that the round doesn't detonate since battleship rounds explode.
@caughtin4k959
@caughtin4k959 2 года назад
What program are you using to simulate that kind of stuff?
@sithlorrd8300
@sithlorrd8300 2 года назад
Can you do shaped-charged explosivr effect on armor? Like HEAT amunitions etc
@alexbarboni6619
@alexbarboni6619 2 года назад
Gave what's left of the driver a nice new viewing port
@thef0urth326
@thef0urth326 2 года назад
"Just a scratch, Ivan! Keep driving!"
@lsq7833
@lsq7833 2 года назад
That's at least a hundred kilo chunk of armor launched inside the crew compartment at a waay more than desireable velocity. Driver is mush, turret crew could be considered lucky to have their legs torn off, and there's no telling what else it might fuck up inside.
@152mmenjoyer4
@152mmenjoyer4 2 года назад
Are you able to simulate what the shell does after it hits the hull? or is that too much to render.
@Galactipod
@Galactipod 2 года назад
Hull break, essentially. Nobody in the tank is surviving that.
@sirmalus5153
@sirmalus5153 2 года назад
A 15" shell from HMS Warspite hit the front plate on a (german) coastal battery during the Normandy campaign. The armoured turret face it hit was most likely near upright, but still a good thickness. Both barrels were blown out the back of their emplacement. A Yamato shell hitting ANY tank will turn said tank into bits of metal putty most likely. Did a large naval shell ever glance off metal as thin as in the video, in real life? Does anyone know?
@donovanwilliams5424
@donovanwilliams5424 2 года назад
Not to complain, but could we get a simulation of a more downward angle? A battleship shell is more likely to be lobbed at a land target rather than a direct-fire shot.
@fluffly3606
@fluffly3606 2 года назад
In addition to the caveat that this doesn't model the effect of the shock of the impact on the vehicle as a whole, remember that naval AP shells have sizeable bursting charges.
@alexstenin4530
@alexstenin4530 2 года назад
Reminds me the case of British Battle cruiser shot the French one somewhere in North Africa - the projectile has ricocheted then after the hit of roof of main caliber turret (and the projectile was found in kilometers away on the beach - all happened in port area) Maybe to simulate those case too?
@athut8824
@athut8824 3 месяца назад
Can you please make this shell impacting a maus front top hull armor at an angle?
@RedVRCC
@RedVRCC 2 года назад
I'd like to see a test of a large and very unarmored vehicle (say the big flat sides of the German FlaRakRad SPAA truck) against a battleship shell to see if less armor might give it a better chance. My thoughts are that it will over-penetrate without dumping enough energy into the vehicle to rip it apart.
@ultramavor1094
@ultramavor1094 2 года назад
Completely ignoring the fact that the transference of force alone would cause the front of the tank to peel like the barrel of Elmer Fudd's gun, I'd like to bring up the shockwaves and sounds created from the impact. The sheer force of the shockwave would likely cause the people inside the tank to be squished to paste. Even if the people inside were somehow immortal the sound created by this would likely cause your eardrums to explode... violently. If I'm wrong one this, I really would like to hear what would really happen, but from where I'm sitting this seems pretty likely.
@Revanavarice
@Revanavarice 2 года назад
Would the ricochet at that location still have deflected the shell onto the turret?
@justinmoe3171
@justinmoe3171 2 года назад
The amount of people here who don’t know what kinetic energy is is staggering
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