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T95 DOOM TURTLE vs MAUS | Battle of the Super-Heavies | Armour Penetration Simulation 

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Also known as the T28, the T95 and Maus were the heaviest tanks to be tested during WWII, with neither actually entering service. The simulation presents the 105mm T13E2 Armour-Piercing Capped Ballistic-Capped (APCBC) projectile impacting the turret cheek of the Maus from ~250m.
The turret cheek of the Maus has been modelled as 232mm thick, in line with Warthunder. However, the only existing Maus was assessed to have a 220mm thick turret front, but there are various sources out there which state that the planned thickness was supposed to be higher -some even stating 240mm. It has been modelled as 220BHN good quality RHA.
The T95 was chosen as its 105mm gun has one of the highest penetrating full-calibre Allied projectiles tested during WWII (the 32pdr of the Tortoise is similar, while the BL-10 of the ISU-152-2 exceeds them both). As the vast majority of Allied cannons dont have this much power, it goes to show how effective the frontal armour of the Maus would have been for its time. The T13E2 projectile has been modelled with progressive hardening, in-line with similar US projectiles of the era. In reality it is unlikely that the fuse would break under this impact; the diagram for the projectile does not detail the geometry of the fuse and it was not secured well enough in the simulation.
Amazing thumbnail artwork from Martin Petrov www.artstation.com/artwork/kQ... and Warthunder

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@SYsimulations
@SYsimulations 22 дня назад
To those wondering, the nickname "Doom Turtle" was not an official designation, but it is quite fitting. There is also a fair amount of confusion between it being called the T28 or T95 -the designation changed between the two during development
@azothemtcplayer
@azothemtcplayer 22 дня назад
SY, next could you do Abrams side with ARAT vs Russian 30mm apds?
@hambourje
@hambourje 21 день назад
Will you ever do a simulation including the explosive filler?
@racernatorde5318
@racernatorde5318 19 дней назад
Sure, the named changed. But it hasn't changed since they stopped development, so roughly 80 years ago. This vehicle is called "T28 Super Heavy Tank".
@JP_Keifer
@JP_Keifer 17 дней назад
we need to see Maus 128mm vs the T95
@user-by3pj7om8r
@user-by3pj7om8r 17 дней назад
can you do 800 mm gustav vs ratte?
@ZaXBooster
@ZaXBooster 22 дня назад
Imagine Someone Modernized The Maus adding "Some" Kontak-5 ERA
@lemonman7251
@lemonman7251 22 дня назад
Immovable object meets unstoppable forces (apfsds)
@fuzonzord9301
@fuzonzord9301 22 дня назад
Maus has much weaker armour than T-64.
@ThatZenoGuy
@ThatZenoGuy 22 дня назад
@@fuzonzord9301 Depends on the location, it has much MUCH more side armor.
@TeddyKrimsony
@TeddyKrimsony 22 дня назад
a one thick piece of cast steel armor is very stupid for 1960s tech. putting modern ERA on that is pretty stupid as well
@ME262MKI
@ME262MKI 22 дня назад
Why would someone want to downgrade the Maus by adding some crappy ruZZian tech?
@randyashandy
@randyashandy 22 дня назад
T95 and Maus are like Lovers, They can't destroy eachother.
@Breadman2024-us7fi
@Breadman2024-us7fi 22 дня назад
Love-hate relationship
@kwkfortythree39
@kwkfortythree39 22 дня назад
​@@Breadman2024-us7fi still better than Lowe-HEAT relationship (sorry 😅)
@MegaJani
@MegaJani 22 дня назад
@@kwkfortythree39 Oh my god
@Mthammere2010
@Mthammere2010 22 дня назад
Until one of their backs are turned.
@bintjbeil7892
@bintjbeil7892 22 дня назад
​@@Mthammere2010 😏
@TheTeddyGuy28
@TheTeddyGuy28 22 дня назад
Yeah I guessed it wouldn't, but it certainly came perilously close to a penetration. Maus with ERA would be something lol.
@llamallama1509
@llamallama1509 22 дня назад
I don't think ERA would do much against full calibre penetrators.
@jackzhang8677
@jackzhang8677 22 дня назад
It would’ve penned if firing HVAP
@gareththompson2708
@gareththompson2708 22 дня назад
Not really. Its 200mm of armor was incredible by WW2 standards. But WW2 was a very long time ago. 200mm RHA equivalence is pretty pathetic by modern standards. I think a modern APFSDS round could slice through around 700mm of RHA. Adding some ERA to it wouldn't get you any better results than ERA on a T-55 or T-62.
@mateuszk3812
@mateuszk3812 22 дня назад
It would more or less have the same effective armor as some uparmored T-55/T54 and pre composite armor era prototypes like T-95 E1 if they had the same ERA placed or to use something slightly more modern - Algerian BMTP Terminator, basically a heavy ifv protection levels. Still frontal protection would be arguably worse than on some modernised M-60's since their turret can have pretty respectable frontal "line of sight" armor values and their hull armor is more angled - thus if faced with old shells it still can do something (if it was properly uparmored beforehand). To put it short - it wouldn't be impressive and rely entirely on enemy using solely old and light handheld anti-tank measures or some ammo from un-upgraded early to mid cold war tanks.
@sayerglasgow115
@sayerglasgow115 22 дня назад
If you want to ERA up an old RHA-based tank to get a goofy superheavy you'd be better off using something like an IS-7 or an object. 279. The best you could hope for though would still just be a sluggish equivalent to a modern MBT.
@lovelybraintoaster164
@lovelybraintoaster164 22 дня назад
Oh, that’s awesome to see! May we see the reverse too, Maus VS T95?
@carlosvelez8407
@carlosvelez8407 17 дней назад
Yes!!!
@resurgam_b7
@resurgam_b7 22 дня назад
Ooh, I like that you can see the projectile's cap doing what it's supposed to do and helping to keep the shell from shattering on impact.
@Fretti90
@Fretti90 22 дня назад
It would be interesting to see how well the 17pdr with its APDS would work against the Maus or the T95. Great vid as always :)
@soul-om4id
@soul-om4id 22 дня назад
Wouldn't have done much. Keep in mind the 17 pd barely defeated the frontal armor of a panther at close range. These super heavys are something else entirely.
@fauzin3338
@fauzin3338 22 дня назад
@@soul-om4id Even when using post-war APDS shot?
@Sapoman2211
@Sapoman2211 22 дня назад
I believe he's tested apds out of the 17pdr, and it would go through at close range with no angle - an unlikely shot.
@soul-om4id
@soul-om4id 22 дня назад
@@fauzin3338 post war 17 pdr couldn't defeat a t-54 frontal armor turret or glacis. Hence the upgrade to a 20 pdr. The t-54 has less armor than this freak of nature heavy. I'm going to say the 17pdr couldn't defeat the armor even with post war new munitions.
@fauzin3338
@fauzin3338 22 дня назад
@@soul-om4id Hmm, perhaps it was just too much to ask from a "mere" 76.2 mm gun, unless you're in the 1980s and get APFSDS ammo for that gun. The progress into 20 pdr is a natural outcome I think. But I wonder if they ever developed a more powerful gun than 20 pdr that's not the 32 pdr or L7
@LiezAllLiez
@LiezAllLiez 20 дней назад
What do you mean "The T95 suffered from poor mobility"? That thing was the fastest vehicle in the world, achieving its top speed in less than 3 seconds. Very few vehicles today can do that.
@Pickles6988
@Pickles6988 19 дней назад
My bad if it’s a joke, but that thing moves like 10 miles a light year
@Zxian61
@Zxian61 17 дней назад
@@Pickles6988a light year is as long as a year
@user-jf5vd6bq4w
@user-jf5vd6bq4w 9 дней назад
well if we divide lightyear by T95's speed we'll get the time
@Devolaj
@Devolaj 22 дня назад
Maus upper front plate angled 45° to the side, 1000m vs 3BM42 "Mango"
@contemptordreadnought
@contemptordreadnought 22 дня назад
Modern apfsds is just too strong for solid armor. Mango will 100% pen
@Devolaj
@Devolaj 21 день назад
@@contemptordreadnought i want to see it. When I tried it in War Thunder it says no chance for penetration when angle is more than 40°. So I wanna see more accurate simulation ;D
@hi_-bz7wf
@hi_-bz7wf 21 день назад
According to Wikipedia the 17 pdr apds could pierce the maus turret. Could we see a simulation to test this because it seems unlikely?
@o-hogameplay185
@o-hogameplay185 22 дня назад
it would be nice to see the same thing, but with APCR
@GKOYG_and_KAAF_is_epic
@GKOYG_and_KAAF_is_epic 22 дня назад
Video idea:KV 2 zis 107mm vs panther G front hull
@The_better_T34
@The_better_T34 22 дня назад
The gunner taking a face full of spall
@S4B3R117
@S4B3R117 22 дня назад
The cannon it used was also used in other tanks, yeah? They might have had some AP rounds at those times, and I would love to see them (and others) shoot the maus and t95, perhaps the cannons they would have faced even a few years later
@cameron5802
@cameron5802 20 дней назад
I think you'd still get a pretty nice plug shaped hole after the detonation IF it occurred after the shear line gets developed. Maybe not before. Not sure how their fusing may actually increase or decrease its performance.
@oddsquadOlive
@oddsquadOlive 20 дней назад
now this is what i want
@Talex-jb8bp
@Talex-jb8bp 20 дней назад
The reverse would be cool if this were you shoot the T 95s main gun versus the mouse armor
@karoltakisobie6638
@karoltakisobie6638 22 дня назад
Have you done a panzefaust exploding against t34 or Sherman armor? I looked but can't find one.
@SmartassX1
@SmartassX1 8 дней назад
A Panzerfaust could go through even the thickest armor on a T-43/85, but aiming it was very difficult.
@Phos9
@Phos9 21 день назад
Do we have enough information about any of the guns trialed on the T95 medium tank to run a simulation?
@user-hw7id5zn2o
@user-hw7id5zn2o 22 дня назад
That was very interesting. Please, can you make Maus turret cheek vs 130-mm soviet APCBC shell, for S-26 gun (it was mounted on the first IS-7 prototype specially cause of its abilities to penatrate Maus frontal armor)?
@nuraly78
@nuraly78 22 дня назад
He already did that. 130mm projectile hit mouse cheek at an angle and was able to penetrate it.
@user-hw7id5zn2o
@user-hw7id5zn2o 22 дня назад
@@nuraly78 Didn't know that. Thanks
@Vinzmannn
@Vinzmannn 8 дней назад
Hi, what material models are you using for your simulations? Would be happy to get an answer :)
@bintangc.j7467
@bintangc.j7467 15 дней назад
Can you make video IS-2 BR-471B vs Tiger II Lower Hull?
@rollingster4405
@rollingster4405 21 день назад
I wonder how old ap or aphe projectiles would go against modern nera armor
@panzerkampfwagenviiimaus1790
@panzerkampfwagenviiimaus1790 16 дней назад
would T32 APCBC shot be more effective, since it is a solod projectile with no filler cavity?
@user-jf5vd6bq4w
@user-jf5vd6bq4w 9 дней назад
What about XM109 munition (25mm ap granade or smth) against BMP 1 side or front?
@richardbossman9875
@richardbossman9875 13 дней назад
Not bad for weighing half as much and being designed mainly for bunker busting and not for anti-tank roles.
@camoshorts
@camoshorts 20 дней назад
You should do skin vs spall
@sensor3dd
@sensor3dd 22 дня назад
Does the round have less penetration than in War thunder? I wonder what stopped the round
@Marasel_Ataturk
@Marasel_Ataturk 19 дней назад
T95 APCR vs Maus pls
@velvetthundr
@velvetthundr 20 дней назад
I don’t even think any APCR in-service would go through. They’re too slow and short against a Maus which has curved and angled armor.
@user-mj2un1rh8i
@user-mj2un1rh8i 18 дней назад
Panzer III vs Sherman pls.
@mar_k3445
@mar_k3445 18 дней назад
Can u simulate a kamikaze plane a6m5 (zero) or whatever they usted for kamikaze planes against a m4 sherman tank? (Even thought kamikazes were only against ships)
@K-H-28
@K-H-28 22 дня назад
In most of your simulations using AP shells that have explosive filler, you omit the filler. For someone that's not familiar with ballistics simulations, why do you do that? How would results for simulations like this one change?
@sayerglasgow115
@sayerglasgow115 22 дня назад
It would change very little, that's why its omitted as it would be added complexity to attain basically the same result. The explosive filler has negligible mass compared to the metal around it and its softness means structurally you can basically treat it like a cavity for something like this.
@tommeakin1732
@tommeakin1732 22 дня назад
It makes very little difference to if the shell will or will not go through, and it just adds more sim complexity meaning it'll take longer to make, or the scale of the sim has to be lessened. With the very fringe cases (where the shell is pretty much through, but not quite, a big bursting charge might still do harm to the inside of the tank, so it might be worthwhile to show the shell burst; but in this video it'd be useless
@lyagushkha8490
@lyagushkha8490 22 дня назад
As mentioned above, the filler would matter very little in terms of penetration proper, as it is insignificant structurally. However, it is mainly ommited in such simulations mainly because rendering the explosion of the filler would require a lot more processing power and rendering time. It could easily lenghten rendering time by 2 or 3 times, and is insignificant to the topic of armor penetration, omnly for the damage afterwards.
@t10god
@t10god 22 дня назад
oh, wow, I thought that would do better.
@notablediscomfort
@notablediscomfort 21 день назад
obviously the T95 needs a bigger gun.
@delinquenter
@delinquenter 20 дней назад
And more tracks.
@sciurros
@sciurros 22 дня назад
War thunder channels coming to get new '''''inspiration''''' from this video: 🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️
@King.Leonidas
@King.Leonidas 22 дня назад
Maus made with modern composite armour instead
@womblethumbnibblewright5961
@womblethumbnibblewright5961 21 день назад
I'd find it quite intriguing to see the impact of a BTR-80's KPVT machine gun firing its 14x114 mm projectile at an M3 Bradley; especially since there might be a realistic chance of that happening in the current Ukraine war.
@tolik5929
@tolik5929 22 дня назад
vs Enola Gaye .
@TheJimyyy
@TheJimyyy 21 день назад
Maus turret check are around 250 mm …..
@50centpb7
@50centpb7 4 дня назад
Was there a reason German tanks left their turret face so relatively less armoured than the hulls? It seems to be a consistent weak spot.
@Smagglet
@Smagglet 22 дня назад
Lets see the Maus vs APFSDS!
@Mechanized85
@Mechanized85 21 день назад
insane
@notachair4757
@notachair4757 20 дней назад
Would get obliterated. Modern APFSDS can have more than 700mm of RHA penetration.
@piberry6445
@piberry6445 22 дня назад
I thought it would go through easily
@drugs_are_good_trust_me_bro
@drugs_are_good_trust_me_bro 22 дня назад
APCR doess, but the APCBC can't pen the Maus anywhere at the front, only sides and back.
@soul-om4id
@soul-om4id 22 дня назад
Would the explosive filler changed the outcome? Shattered part of the armor after penetration? Or was it not enough filler to do much of anything?
@kimjanek646
@kimjanek646 22 дня назад
Disapointing performance. I bet the 90mm T50 shot would have gone through :P
@seanmurphy7011
@seanmurphy7011 22 дня назад
So close, lol
@Big1_
@Big1_ 16 дней назад
"250 meters" next time put 20cm of distance + a kiss beetwen them....
@ssuuss539
@ssuuss539 21 день назад
Conqueror:
@matteocalapod2477
@matteocalapod2477 18 дней назад
TUTELLL
@shahramtondkarmobarakie1824
@shahramtondkarmobarakie1824 22 дня назад
someone bounced on a MAUS in their doom turtle today aye?
@odddellarobbia4
@odddellarobbia4 22 дня назад
MAUS HAUS
@VBunplugged757
@VBunplugged757 13 дней назад
T95 and T28 are the same vehicle
@Sebmundo
@Sebmundo 8 дней назад
Nope t28 has only two tracks
@VBunplugged757
@VBunplugged757 8 дней назад
No it doesn't. Look it up somewhere other than war thunder or wot
@Sebmundo
@Sebmundo 8 дней назад
@@VBunplugged757 I did search it up but for some reason google gave me the wrong answer, a misconception and told me it was real
@Sebmundo
@Sebmundo 8 дней назад
@@VBunplugged757I did search it up and for some reason google gave me the misconception, the wrong answer… blame google not me 😂
@Sebmundo
@Sebmundo 8 дней назад
@@VBunplugged757 no t28 has two tracks and less armor, get your facts right
@UkrainianPaulie
@UkrainianPaulie 22 дня назад
Simulations cannot calculate for Germany's downgraded metalurgy at the end of the war. Late 44 armor wasn't as good as previous years.
@discordtian32
@discordtian32 22 дня назад
Well some of the late tanks produced were good quality only the post tanks production faced significant low quality product
@discordtian32
@discordtian32 22 дня назад
The Soviet has worse metallurgy throughout ww2 they had weak stele treatment and crude welding and tank designed make it even harder they used cast armor which I'd very brittle and it make it brittle even more with poor metallurgy
@discordtian32
@discordtian32 22 дня назад
German lacks necessary alloys such as manganese and molybdenum which needed for steel to make it good quality in late war send they switch to carbon steel which is very brittle so even if the projectile didn't perforate it will cause spalling and armor cracking while Soviet uses standard steel with poor heat treatment and etc
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