Behringer EDGE MIDI Questions Answered

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The Behringer EDGE has MIDI - but how much is it integrated into the rest of the hardware and what can be done with it? The functionality is quite limited, as you might expect with an all analog synth/sequencer. Here I answer some questions that have been asked following my previous uploads.
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0:00 MIDI Pitch & Velocity
0:28 MIDI velocity output by CV?
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2:31 MIDI Swing
3:09 Trigger CV output
3:58 2 notes for 2 VCOs?
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@lesterfalcon1350 Год назад

Wow, thank you for doing this. Putting the star in Starsky. This is really reassuring to have a much clearer picture on the midi options

@krazywabbit Год назад

I heard sounds that sounded good to my ear. Thank you for sharing. Definitely on my list to acquire. Stay safe.

@devmech Год назад

Thank you so much for doing this early exploration! I can't tell you how jealous I am that you already have one of these monsters. It seems like every reviewer starts demoing and gets caught up in how good it sounds. The excitement is real.

@davidgoode7416 9 месяцев назад

You got one yet?

@devmech 9 месяцев назад

@@davidgoode7416 Yeah! Can't keep my hands off it. Too much fun. Jams and doodles up at @robotswhatrobots

@PAAmsterdam 6 месяцев назад

Thanks man, you’re the reason for my purchase of the edge 🎉If you could make a tutorial edge with crave that would be awesome 🙌🏻

@THEREALDATALORD Год назад

Brother, I appreciate you so much.

@mimikova390 Год назад

Keep in mind the edge is meant to work in concert with the crave. The crave will do midi to pitch cv. I use it to pitch my dfam sometimes. Usualy i use the Beatstep pro in that role. but the crave will do midi to pitch.

@StarskyCarr Год назад

of course, just pointing out that this won't... well just noticing as I recorded actually :)

@StarskyCarr Год назад

Edge vs DFAM ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-p5LADPPcaN0.html MIDI ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NQuho9IlCO4.html With a DAW ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mG-19XVU7lk.html Main demo ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rc4wlomawNs.html For some sample packs check out www.starskycarr.com

@SMOKINGROOVE Год назад

Great video. Got sick of waiting for the unit to come out and ended up bying a DFAM instead.

@synthsamuraiproductions Год назад

Great video! 🍻

@joe_fizz Год назад

Thank you for your invaluable videos Sir 🙏

@davidgoode7416 Год назад

Great video, thanks

@ianperesmusic Год назад

Bloody brilliant video. I'm so keen to get an Edge or three and see what my Keystep can do with it. Really makes me wish the DFAM had midi. I have to use so much CV trickery to get it to do what I want when MIDI could just circumvent most of it. I'm most excited about that velocity sensitive expression!

@fatkev1983 Год назад

I agree! I was thinking about how I might use the Edge with my Beatstep Pro. Behringer did do a video with some very rough MIDI info but I think it was from a year ago. This video here is an honest demo of a fair bit of the MIDI functionality. I can't wait for my Edge to arrive now... Just got a Yamaha VSS200 that arrived today to play with until then.

@mimikova390 Год назад

I have a the MAFD midi mod on my dfam. It is awesome.

@ianperesmusic Год назад

@@mimikova390holy shit, I did not know that existed! Thanks for that, gonna look into it!

@mimikova390 Год назад

@@ianperesmusic best part abot the mafd is that it always resets so you didn't have to put it on the step when syncing to daw

@ianperesmusic Год назад

@@mimikova390 oh man that'd be so great not to have to worry about that anymore. Haha it's honestly the one annoying thing I find about the DFAM

@lukeskywalker2656 Год назад

🎉Tip Top Video❤ @ Behringer Edge 😘 love Starsky Carr

@Computerrorist Год назад

So... MIDI transport (start/stop) signals from a master sequencer do not trigger a reset to the first step of the internal sequencer?

@JimHast Год назад

Hey! Nice video! I couldn’t understand the swing part. Does the Edge have a swing option?

@eduardolopez4045 9 месяцев назад

Does anyone know if you can control things on the Edge via midi CC? If so, is there a midi implementation chart?

@ashleycobbold7816 Год назад

Hey man, wondering if you could help, I've just got the edge and I'm getting volume issues whenever I try and link it up with anything. I tried my volca drum through a headphone splitter and the edge become barely audible, the same trough a mixer. Did you have any of these issues?

@ahteha8010 Год назад

Thank you.

@michaelobrien8666 2 месяца назад

With cv, gate, and mod on my midi controller, is there a way to do the pitch to noise snare sound?

@CB19087 4 месяца назад

Ah i really need to learn how to use my kit. I have the edge and the crave and also volca sample and fm. I struggle to sync stuff because I don't really understand what to do. Any recommendations for videos syncing kit?

@markparker4362 3 месяца назад

Hi Great information as always. Wondered what your thoughts are on combining the edge with the Pulsar 23 as regards the best way to sync and combine into a daw (I use Ableton) Thanks in advance.

@templetonpalmer2938 9 месяцев назад

does anybody know what is sent out of the MIDI out port?

@michaeltinnin Год назад

Auto midi clock. It's a must in today's kit

@kp8923 Год назад

Does anyone happen to know or remember if the Crave has MIDI reset?

@davebeep3887 5 месяцев назад

An oddity I noticed is, if you have the "Seq Pitch Mod" selected to anything other than "off", when you play a note via midi input, the Edge triggers another note (whatever is on the current sequencer step) on key release / midi note off. If you are playing the Edge with a keyboard, make sure you have "Seq Pith Mod" selected to off.

@StarskyCarr 5 месяцев назад

Yeah that’s a good point. I mention it in either this or my other videos, it can be a real head scratcher when you realise it’s playing different notes than you’re hitting on the keyboard!

@davebeep3887 5 месяцев назад

@@StarskyCarr I almost gave up on it when changing the midi/usb/ int ext setting didn't stop it. Was an afterthought to try the pitch mod switch.

@MorwenWhyte 2 месяца назад

Oh man, thanks for this tip, I was having the same issue and the only way I could stop it was dialing 0 pitch on the step I was playing on (that worked somehow). I'm glad there was a proper way to avoid that bouncing note. Although I still find it kind of cool that you can switch that ringing note back on whenever you want and give the EDGE a banjo-ish flavour.

@mh22xv Год назад

Ok, great! So when is the UB-Xa coming?

@bob-rogers Год назад

With two oscillators that respond to pitch it would make a pretty good bass synth.

@StarskyCarr Год назад

Yeah some of those tones I got just demoing the functions were great.

@zbsfm Год назад

No attack phase on the envelope unfortunately, but if you don't mind that, absolutely

@mu0p 5 месяцев назад

My biggest want from this is something like the Sonoclast MAFD to trigger the different 8 steps in whatever order I want. Really bummed that isn't a feature with this :(

@protmanwich Год назад

When using external MIDI or USB, can individual steps be triggered in an arbitrary order? The DFAM can do this with the Sonoclast MAFD addon module :]

@StarskyCarr Год назад

No, not without the sonoclast (I’m assuming it’ll work)

@BasilSimon 10 месяцев назад

Hey Starsky! Great channel, I'm loving your style and pace. Very informative! So I BOUGHT AN EDGE!!! That's the power of Starsky Carr in action, right there! However..... I am absolutely flummoxed when it comes to getting my Cubase 12 pro to run its clock? I have it recieving midi and I'm able to play notes on my controller via 5 pin DIN and I have the USB plugged into my PC (windows 10) but cannot work out how to make the edge work when I flick the switch to USB midi. Is there any possible chance you could do a short tutorial on the simplest possible way to have a DAW run the Edges clock? Thanks mate!

@StarskyCarr 10 месяцев назад

It depends on the DAW tbh. I’m Logic you have to set the individual MiDI outputs to send clock for example. I think it’s sent by default on Ableton, but can’t remember how it works on Cubase, I’ve not touched it for about 10 years now. You need to press play on the Edge - which is a big one!

@BasilSimon 10 месяцев назад

@StarskyCarr Thanks! I thought I had Cubase sending clock but I will check. That does sound like a solution.

@urileschauer386 29 дней назад

Is the external audio actually play audio? I get nothing and cant find information anywhere about it

@StarskyCarr 29 дней назад

It’s an audio input and needs to be at eurorack level. Line level isn’t loud enough.

@Swodie_Jeetin 2 месяца назад

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by "no MIDI reset", but I find that my edge (stock firmware) always reverts to step 1 when I hit play in Reaper. I'm only outputting the clock pulse over USB but even if I select "do not send reset message" in the MIDI menu it will not begin from any step other than 1. Maybe you're referring to resetting on the fly? IDK just my 2 cents.

@StarskyCarr 2 месяца назад

No idea tbh. Maybe there’s been a firmware update or maybe I was talking about resetting at any point ie resetting ad hoc at any point eg after 5 steps to create a 5 step loop then after 7 steps then after 3 for either semi random or polymetric stuff. Probably the latter.

@_esquire6189 Год назад

Would a midi drum pad device be able to trigger the Edge? I mean one that I would play with drum sticks.

@StarskyCarr Год назад

Yes.

@gonzinigonz Год назад

Can you limit the sequencer length to any number of steps? I'm thinking odd timings against say 4/4

@ogasi1798 Год назад

we have no reset so creating a 3 step etc is not easy without trickery - tiny bit of modular and some thinking about step levels and you are away the easy way is to use an external trigger like from #rd9 or similar that or set the midi divider to triplets or use a midi seq:

@landslidepurist Год назад

Nope

@gonzinigonz Год назад

@@landslidepurist Thats what i wondered...

@jm6734 Год назад

Not being able to slave it to swing gives me pause. Do you think there’s any chance that’ll work with other/their own (awaited) sequencers?

@livetechsupport909 Год назад

Transmitting MIDI clock which has swing built into the data stream is a pretty rare and actually unreliable way of doing things...because different manufacturers interpret that fluctuating clock data differently. I'm surprised the Cobalt actually transmits MIDI clock with swing built in. Generally it's best to adjust swing value on the sequencer itself if the device's internal sequencer has swing adjustment. I'm not sure if Edge's internal sequencer has swing, but if you have an external sequencer with swing that generates analog clock pulses (e.g. Pioneer DJ Toraiz Squid), you can drive the Edge with that and swing all you want.

@robotriddims 10 месяцев назад

or you can patch "swing" - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EPb4sNPPh2s.html

@jm6734 9 месяцев назад

@@livetechsupport909thanks for explaining 😊👍

@joost3783 Год назад

yooo where's the pro-800?? Im sitting here trying to figure the gligli mod out and behringers manuals are basically non existent!! ;D

@urileschauer386 27 дней назад

Ah i see so i need a preamp in order for the level to be adequate. any inexpensive recommendations? I appreciate the replies! Love your show!

@StarskyCarr 26 дней назад

I don't have any recommendations for any in particular sorry. There's lots of workarounds with different modules, but anything with an amp should do it. The Voltage Lab2 has one for example, as does the Taiga, but I don't have a specific module. If you've any eurorack, maybe you have a VCA that would do the trick.

@albertocastillo7686 Год назад

When is this edge hitting the streets?

@wonderwheel80s Год назад

Thanks, I was wondering about this. It's actually more than I hoped for, I was afraid MIDI was just for sync. Anyway, does the MIDI pitch add to the sequencer pitch, or does it replace it?

@ogasi1798 Год назад

midi pitch hits the active trigger only - if you send it midi notes while the seq: is running nothing will happen, stop the engine, hit a key and the pattern transposes and you hear this after play is pushed again

@wonderwheel80s Год назад

@@ogasi1798 Not sure I understand this, but thank you for your kind answer. I mean, you're telling me that I hit a key and, after I press play, the Edge remembers the pitch and transpose the sequence? I'm pretty sure there's no such capability in it, no memory.

@ogasi1798 Год назад

@@wonderwheel80s i have two proto of them, trust me i know what i am talking about it still has mcu etc, midi is just a signal hitting the cv of the seq: - if midi is connected and a seq: is playing - if you stop and hit a key, the sequence is transposed yes 🙂 basically when pitch of the step is centred, that particular step is the pitch you are transposing and his can be heard by hitting the trigger button and then replicating on midi kbd - you then play the new note and all others follow simply suit

@ogasi1798 Год назад

@@wonderwheel80s I'll ask starsky to do a short showing it, it's a neat little trick sort of and very easy to miss

@wonderwheel80s Год назад

@@ogasi1798 All right, so I'm happy to be wrong!

@dyscotopia Год назад

I've played with both and the edge is much better apart from some minor interface weirdness and some, ahem, edge case scenarios. Now, if someone were to make a 3 voice version, we'd be rocking😊

@StarskyCarr Год назад

buy 2 and you'll have a 4 voice

@mykroz Год назад

Can you combine Edge's with Crave's matrix?

@StarskyCarr Год назад

yes.. they work with any euro rack module as well

@mykroz Год назад

@@StarskyCarr cool, thank you!

@jostannard4713 Год назад

Ordered mine yesterday, still can’t get my head round all the haters

@KeithDuncanSound Год назад

Nice one man. Did Behringer send you a review Edge? I see they are not out until August/September

@wonderwheel80s Год назад

Where did you see that? Because I have very different dates.

@wonderwheel80s Год назад

Anyway, youtubers got this September 2022. You can easily see that by the dates of their videos.

@derkernspalter Год назад

In earlier videos he said it's a pre production unit.

@markusshoggu Год назад

@@wonderwheel80s i ordered in germany at thomann (our biggest online music store) and it says delivery "in 1-2 weeks"

@tubthump Год назад

@@wonderwheel80s I ordered one from Britain. Thomann says "in stock within about one week".

@Aaronpride 3 месяца назад

Thank your wife for letting us have you use that table 😂

@Anton-du-Fleur 4 месяца назад

The Edge and midi clock works great a100.00 and scale is set to 1/4... 1 increase on the bpm and it doesnt run in time wtf?

@RaquelFoster 11 месяцев назад

The way the Edge responds to MIDI notes is VERY strange. If SEQ PITCH MOD is off, it just plays the MIDI notes. It triggers the envelope, then when you release the key it stops. If you press TRIGGER on the Edge it will replay the last MIDI note it got. But if SEQ PITCH MOD is on, when you release the note, instead of stopping, the oscillator pitch changes to the pitch of the active step and it keeps playing for the normal decay time. Many Moog synths treat the last MIDI note received as a base note and then CV gets added to (or transposes) that note. That's what my Minitaur does, so I can turn it into a DFAM with a Korg SQ-1, and then I can send MIDI notes which transpose the pattern from the SQ-1 using CV. But what the Edge does seems more like a bug.

@StarskyCarr 11 месяцев назад

Yeah I demo this somewhere… maybe not in this video. I couldn’t work out what was happening for a while.

@robotriddims 10 месяцев назад

I think I know the answer to this... but if the seq pitch mod is off and the sequencer is running... can you play midi notes to define the pitch while everthing else comes from the Edge sequencer? I think not, but what a shame!

@StarskyCarr 10 месяцев назад

@@robotriddims yes it’s the first thing I demo. The pitch is played via midi.. turn seq pitch off and it turns off the seq pitch🤷‍♂️😂😂 if that’s what’s you’re asking - you can then use the seq pitch knobs for whatever you like.

@robotriddims 10 месяцев назад

@@StarskyCarr thanks - I meant with the Edge sequencer running though, which I don't think it is in the first example... saw someone suggest maybe it doesn't work unless the seq is stopped? Great if it does! (not a deal breaker if it doesn't tbh)

@StarskyCarr 10 месяцев назад

@@robotriddims aah I see - pretty sure it does. I don’t see why it wouldn’t - but I’m not with jt at the mo to check.

@fruduroc Год назад

Thank you ! And could you tell me if the midi of Edge offers the possibility to play any of the 8 steps separatly as the MAFD adapter do on the DFAM ? Like we see in this demo, ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-d7O3_ekEI7Y.html

@mu0p 5 месяцев назад

This is all I wanted, at the moment I don't think its a possibility. Let me know if you ever hear anything different

@fruduroc 5 месяцев назад

@@mu0p Hello, the only solution I found for dfam/edge is one of these external processor like the one I posted or this one which is even more specific, ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AcYwkRdIoog.htmlsi=ecODiURHjLy7inzx it exists in a case module or eurorack module. It can do very nice things but unfortunately it's more expensive than the Edge...

@karlosdean1650 3 месяца назад

Have you found any information on this? I hope they release an update soon that will allow individual steps to be played

@keithlane4705 7 месяцев назад

lol @ midi swing, that's just made up right ? does anything have "midi" swing ?

@DavidJKellett Год назад

I think the MIDI stuff will take the Edge rather beyond the DFAM. I shan’t be selling my DFAM but I’m seriously thinking about adding an other Edge to my order at Andertons as I think two Edges, a DFAM, a Crave, a TD-3 or two and a TD-3MO will make for some great noises in my studio.

@markusshoggu Год назад

im a midi noob. ordered the edge. what midi stuff makes the edge better? do you mind explaining? greetings

@Eightball69 Год назад

Is it eurorackable ?

@lesterfalcon1350 Год назад

@derkernspalter Год назад

@THEREALDATALORD Год назад

Its a 60hp 4U and not a 3U. I'm making a 3D printable bracket if you have a 4U eurorack custom case.

@unsinndj 8 месяцев назад

4:39 I’m sick of 808 909 sounds, I’m sure behringer can do something in their own taste something what’s is nothing like Roland sounds from last century… Thanks for your content!

@Nova-TechnoLAB 2 месяца назад

Dude great stuff. But, how do you connect an ordinary inert plastic junk MIDI controller keyboard like the Novation Launchkey mini mk3 to the EDGE successfully? I have it all connected as per instructions/manual and nothing, no sound, no nothing. Thinking of saving the Novation Launchkey mini for a day to drive over it with a lawnmower, but would prefer not to. ANYONE successfully connected this plastic garbage (Launchkey mini mk3) to the amazing EGDE?

@StarskyCarr 2 месяца назад

Make sure you’re in the right midi channel. The edge has jumpers on the back but I think leaves the factory set to 1. Check the Novation is outputting to the same channel.

@Nova-TechnoLAB Месяц назад

@@StarskyCarr Hi bro, thanks for the response. Yeah I tried every channel possible on both the midi controller and the Edge and still nothing. Did jump on a call with a music shop and one of the tech wizards there thinks the trs cable going out of the midi controller (novation) could be the problem. He said occasionally equipment can be sensitive to different brands of cables, even if its the same thing. Will try different cable this weekend, but if doesnt work might try a different controller. Thank you legend!!

@StarskyCarr Месяц назад

@@Nova-TechnoLABthat’s true. The hours I’ve spent trying to figure stuff out and it turns out to be a cable that works on other kit. Last port of call but a definite possibility.

@tristanalliston7927 Год назад

Question.. Difference between a Behringer crave and the edge

@StarskyCarr Год назад

one is a single oscillator synth with ADSR, LFO and a digital sequencer. The other is a 2 oscillator percussive synth engine with 3 very basic envelopes and an analog 2 track sequencer . They're completely different machines.

@mr.irrelevant3588 Год назад

its better than the Dfam

@al.cavalu 9 месяцев назад

Uglier but definitely better!

@derkernspalter Год назад

The MIDI capabilities of the DFAM start at 7:20

@PBHorrorGaming Год назад

Pick up a MAFD if you want midi on the DFAM, you can sequence it from your DAW forwards, backwards, random, any which way you want.

@StarskyCarr Год назад

I honestly thought MAFD was just someone messing around with the name. I had no idea it was a real product until now. Just looked it up. Will have to get one to demo!

@dreadtube4567 Год назад

Arturia Keystep can be used as a midi to cv converter/running other midi gear through it!

@scottmacey Год назад

An extra £150 onto the price of the DFAM? No thanks

@Sandelec-gm2cl Год назад

The DFAM is the best scam of the today's market. Have you seen the DFAM opened..? There is a youtube video for this. The electronic board is very little. And the lack of midi.. the micro knob tor tune every steps.. the lack of scaler to quantize in different modes.. do four times the price of the DFAM.. of the cost it must have.