Behringer RD-8 vs Roland TR08: 808 clone final showdown

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A final look at the RD-8 vs Roland's offerings. My previous video omitted the TR08, so only fair that I found a unit to put side-by-side.
I promise this is the last one :)
The TR08 sounds slightly louder in some sections in the final upload and I've no idea why - maybe something to do with video compression formats and mono/stereo files (the TR08 was recorded stereo and the RD-8 mono). All sounded perfectly equal in recording and editing so apologies for that. You can still hear the obvious characteristics of each. Recording, editing, rendering, uploading and compressing isn't an exact science - so please go easy on me - I get a little tired of comments moaning about volume differences when sometimes its purely down to difference in sound sources being reflected differently through an infinite number of monitoring situations.
If the original waveforms aren't exactly the same the differences will be heard in a infinite number of ways... soz but that's just physics.. with a bit of biology and psychology thrown in just to confuse things. :). So listen to the sounds - not the volumes! I can measure, monitor, listen and tweak but they can still sound different coming out of your headphones/speakers... very annoying!!
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Intro 0:00
2:50 Sounds
17:49 Interface
19:00 Outputs
21:57 Programming
23:11 Song Mode
24:14 Playing Live
25:40 Filters
27:15 Repeat Triggers
28:47 USB Ground Noise
29:38 Conclusion
31:30 Some Beats

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@Pandangus 4 года назад

Your videos are really helpful! Thanks for all the comparisons.

@dragonmobrecords 4 года назад

The Tr08 is quite louder in this video. Maybe it's the stereo effect, but it overpowers the RD8 volume. Thanks for the comparison

@st0rmchild 4 года назад

Excellent comparison…much better than the first one. The summary in the first couple minutes is totally accurate. I own a TR-08 and love it. The RD-8 looks and sounds good, and has several nice improvements over the originals. These are both excellent boxes with different pros and cons. The TR-8S is a great option for live performance; it has the same emulations, and also lets you mix and match sounds from the 606, 707, 808, 909 (and your own samples).

@StarskyCarr 4 года назад

Thanks.. a few more hours under the belt and the TR08 as a comparison was well worth another pop I thought :)

@jessejarrar 3 года назад

Thanks for your time making this video. I had the tr08 and just couldn't get down with the tiny form factor. I'm used to bigger machines. Sounded great and wasn't bad past the occasional menu diving. I also had a TR8S. I can't imagine buying an rd8 or a tr08 apart from really needing to save the cash and pass on a TR8S. It's much more capable than both, but unfortunately doesn't have the 808 aesthetic visually like these 2 boxes. Still the TR8S is a monster! I kinda regret selling it but I already am swimming in drum machines!

@project-95 2 года назад

Yeah the TR8S covers all the x0x sounds and then some, I love it. Everything else is redundant. It's just a shame Roland keeps failing to deliver on something or other that everyone really wants, whether it's aesthetics / outputs / digital / analogue / voice limit of boutiques / monophonic sequencer on JU-06A but poly on SH-01A 🙃 / the list is endless

@ManCalledMif 3 года назад

Great video. Both sound really good. 23:10 Huge difference between the two here. Happy that TR-08 can do precise timing to allow matching with existing songs. many songs have precise tempos e.g. 60.5. I would be surprised if Behringer couldn't fix this with a firmware update.

@Stevali1966 4 года назад

I'm watching this and its 8:08 am.

@ChrisNova777 4 года назад

i just read that at 9:09am lol

@Astronomater 4 года назад

watch it again on August 8th at 8:08 AM.

@joker9494949494 4 года назад

Stevali1966 as soon as I read this I looked at my clock and it was 3:03 am 🤟

@mooremaceo 3 месяца назад

I'm watching on 8-08 year 1808 at 8:08 am.

@digitaldiezel5870 4 года назад

The Roland sounds better...but the Behringer has a better workflow. Thanks for this comparison!

@richnewman 4 года назад

The TR-08 is crazy good. I have the RD-8 and TR-8S, too and love them as well, but it's crazy how the TR-08 just sits so well in a mix without much tweaking.

@rodmorrison47 4 года назад

I owned a TR-808 back in the day and - I may be in the minority here - I love my TR-8. Out of nostalgia I'd love a TR-08 or RD-8, but the TR-8 does just what I need, and I got it used at a cracking price (although not as little as I paid for my 808 back in 1988).

@DaraM73 4 года назад

Yeess my man, knocking out of park

@denoiser 4 года назад

Question arises is the difference from Roland cloud ones big enough that it justifies hardware box, expence, space etc.

@theaudioeng 4 года назад

Wow! You do do your demo's justice ... and for us YT consumers! Cheers SC, look forward to your next drop. Love my RD-8 .... good, chunky ole skool drum m/c 🙃💊💉🌿🚬👍🎵

@shillientemplar6539 3 года назад

i understanded right, dat i can connect midi keyboard to Roland TR-08, & play notes ot tr's cowbell >?? plz, tell me. it wold be great if it is. ty for ur video.

@evankeal 4 года назад

Roland, as usual has the sound and reliability nailed. Everything else goes to the Behringer for me, and it's a lot of extra functionality. Master volumes seemed different in this comparison.

@wesleymino 2 года назад

I watched this video a couple years ago and thought the RD8 sounded more meaty, so I bought one. I recorded with it for about a year and never quite got what I wanted from it. Finally got the Tr-08 and sold the RD8 shortly afterward. The RD8 does sound fatter, but it doesn't nail the 808 sound like the boutique does. Most importantly, the Tr08 sequencer is tighter. The RD8 always seems a little sloppy, and at higher tempos you really notice something is off. But the Tr08 sounds like a record should, tight and groovy. You wanna dance to it. Roland got it right. On top of that the Tr08 won't make you go through the stupid multi-button push saving process for every pattern.

@Zeal808 10 месяцев назад

Yesss. It’s Roland’s sequencers that do it for me too. Plus the sound

@johnny5kmusic346 4 года назад

Cool video 👍🏾 I dunno... I like the Behringer price wise, and it seem that the difference in the Kick drum can be compensated for by some limiting on a recorded track. As for live, I don't know... But great vid! You helped me make my decision

@dropshadow1932 4 года назад

The truth is. The TR-808 sound everyone recognizes and loves is not just the Roland TR-808. It is the 808 blasted through an SSL G4000 console, using their pres, EQ's, compression, and saturation by driving the drums. If you even watch comparison videos between two different TR-808's they will sound different due to age and condition. One is not better than the other, rather they just sound different. That classic sound is from the production process of this drum machine. Naked, an 808 sounds tinny, sharp, and lacks punch. Just my two cents. I love the 808 and the sound. But that classic 'Egyptian Lover' type electro sound is from heavy EQ and compression of a thin, snappy drum machine known as the TR-808. #nerdism.

@StarskyCarr 4 года назад

yep, you're right that's exactly why the Roland has a the option of a longer compressed style kick, and why the Behringer's separate outputs are great for adding FX and EQ to each sound ... still quite sexy little beasts through. :)

@Handarimasta 2 года назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YKK7ygEq_m0.html lol Id say anything but tiny sharp and no punch!

@MoldManMotionGrafix Год назад

Thank you for this. As someone who has quite a few toys in their studio facts like these are more important than the marketing points of each unit. I was considering the SSL channels soon anyway (albeit plug-in versions). I think somewhere close to original 808 and somewhere close to a real SSL console will give me great results. I was allllmost sold on the Behringer but I think I’m gonna go with the roland Altho the only thing for me is the multi outs. Do you think the multi outs on the Behringer is more valuable? Also, that sound of the Roland is night and day. Is it just the stereo vs mono? Now I’m thinking before I try to beef up my drums with a bunch of plugins I should make it stereo.

@damian-henderson Год назад

If you use the separate outputs the 808 is beefy punchy and far from tinny running through an analog desk, never heard anyone say a 808 sound as such, many of those old records where recorded with raw 808 beats...

@freejazzbone 3 года назад

always good videos, thanks

@volt7cooltangs701 4 года назад

I own both and used to own a TR-808. I adore the TR-08’s tiny size but the big difference for me is the hats and the mute and solo ease of use on the RD8. Apart from the BD & SD the main sound most use are the hi-hats. The open hat for me on the 08 is the most disappointing sound. Just not metallic / analog enough for me. Saying that the BD and SD on the 08 are stupidly good. The original TR-808 looked wonderful and is iconic in music history but it was so big for what it did. Mine was midied in. At the time I just sampled it and sold it. The 16 step buttons on the 08 are a nasty & tiny hard plastic that are too hard to push in. That said the size of 08 outweighs its minus points. Roland’s boutiques, like the Volcas are well useable with great portability and battery operation. The 08 also has loads of patterns available. 16x16=256 x A & B variations = 512!

@JeroenKnoops 3 года назад

I’ve got both and I see myself using the Roland more because of the auto fill feature, every x measures automatically add a fill. This is for me really useful in jam sessions when I need my arms and fingers to trigger other machines. I really miss this feature on the Behringer.

@cresshead 2 года назад

track write, add in fills, save track, hit play

@Astronomater 4 года назад

have they updated the behringer firmware yet? also curious if you have done a long term review yet on either machine or if the software continued to mess up on the Behringer unit.

@iammrpops 4 года назад

great comparison...i want one of but couldn't choose

@jimmy_jamesjams_a_lot4171 4 года назад

I’m almost positive that taking the AIRA TR8 on Ableton Live and you plug-in the USB, each and every individual part gets spit across the USB into Live, just as what’s being demonstrated here. These capabilities of USB are absolutely jaw dropping to me. It’s something that not just demonstrates the far reaching territories that technology can travel to, but also the corners we can cut now since that sIngle USB Cable I’m using is sending my MIDI to and from my DAW, AND my separated individual parts are being captured so that’s what? NINE fewer 6.25mm cables??!? That ‘ALL over USB’ capability is the real selling point from my perspective, so keep that Boutique! THANKS FOR SHARING, great topic to make into a video!

@Intrapersonal77 4 года назад

Yes but you must then use it as an audio interface

@jakevan22 3 года назад

I have the RD8 and I'm enjoying it very much.

@Cray23_Official 4 года назад

Well I’ll go with behringer when I found it on eBay for 200-250 Roland sounded good as well and really outdone behringers kick with that long decay but behringer got so much more which works for me(also I got quite big fingers) but as for sound I’m not really sure which one is closer to original 808 and to me they sound both nice. Great work sir

@mancavemusician 3 года назад

I'm tempted with the cloud version for £130 but then again, I like having things I can touch so I might just go for the TR08

@QuanticeProductions 4 года назад

Before I Moved over to the Cloud 808 I had Nepheton d16 Group. Still work with it. More flexible. But the Roland VSTi is pretty much bang on to the original machine. As we know their test department should of paid more attention to the Default velocity, Way to high...

@normdurkin6425 3 года назад

..not possible for digital samples to sound analog.. to hear a huge difference all you have to do is send them through external effects..

@ramonkey2939 4 года назад

I got a Roland cloud and it is very nice still having fun with my drumbrute though

@terrybeach6619 4 года назад

Great video!!! Should do another one with the Roland TB-03 and Behringer TD-3....

@topspeed5546 4 года назад

I got a real Roland TR-808 and when I got the 08 I sat up for about 4 hours comparing and just laughed most of the time cause I could get the 08 to match the real 808 exact! Love that 09 too!

@dukeofpearl 4 года назад

Yep! Me too. The tr08 is amazing. My 808 needs equalising to cut low hiss out. But the 08 is a breath of fresh air for my ageing studio. Good job Roland. 👍🏻

@LochNessAnthony 3 года назад

Vanished Mm. He didn’t mention the behringer.

@RoofLight00 4 года назад

Got my RD-8 and will be picking up the Roland when the prices drop more. Any differences with the swing on each machine. I use swing a LOT.

@StarskyCarr 4 года назад

I’ve not noticed anything unusual or out of the ordinary, but not a swig aficionado ;)

@fjfrancois 4 года назад

@@StarskyCarr Lol

@RoofLight00 4 года назад

@@StarskyCarr Having had my RD8 for a few weeks now, I can confirm the swing function alone can give loads of neat groove possibilities due to the way you can apply it to individual instrument tracks etc.

@sashetasev505 4 года назад

Does the RD8 kick get closer to Roland's long decay at 5:15 if you put it through the wave designer sustain? Because that right there is a winning argument for the little guy :D

@tdavis8118 3 года назад

You said a mouth full there! The RD8 may be more user friendly but the kick on the TR8 closes the deal!

@carl156 4 года назад

Do An Acidlab Miami v RD-8 Showdown ? That would be interesting.

@josephlepkowski2383 4 года назад

Good demonstration of the two. I have the TR08 and love it and have a RD8 on the way. You had to do a factory reset twice using the RD8 (the software you mentioned being worked out) that was probably unexpected. The TR08 has build in compression for every sound (awesome feature didnt see mentioned ). As for what to keep? Thats easy both because you can never have enough 808 .

@StarskyCarr 4 года назад

i really like both of them for different reasons. I can see you keeping both once the RD8 arrives. Btw I thought I mentioned the compression on the TR08 (maybe I cut it in an edit?) but it’s only on the kick and snare isn’t it???

@st0rmchild 4 года назад

TR-08 compression is only on the bass drum and snare drum. Wouldn't make sense on most of the other sounds, but you can of course compress them however you like since you have separate outputs for every sound over USB.

@ashleymartinez7704 4 года назад

The individual outs👍

@powermix24 4 года назад

I bought the RD-8 and man what a solid machine it is!!!! I highly recommend it as it has so much versatility. In-person it looks much much better.

@StarskyCarr 4 года назад

Haha I know... when I got it out of the box I had a massive grin :)

@powermix24 4 года назад

@@StarskyCarr LED lights are top notch as well 😉

@kvmoore1 4 года назад

Everything in the RD-8 sounds really good except for the clave. The TR-08 clave sounds better where as the rimshot on the RD-8 sounds better. Despite the longer kick decay on the TR-08, I like the tone of the RD-8 better. Same for the snare. I actually like the overall tone of the RD-8 better. With that said, the TR-08 isn't bad either. I have a TR-8 and it's not that different from the TR-08 soundwise.

@vincentdewildenberg4529 3 года назад

The can have a longer decay on the kick with the wave shaper... it is not in the video

@kvmoore1 3 года назад

@@vincentdewildenberg4529 It's been a year now since I've made this post. Since then, Behringer has actually improved (or fixed) the sound of the clave in the new RD-8 units. I now own an RD-8 and all of it's sounds are wonderful. It even rivals my original 808. With that said, it didn't take me long to trade in my TR-8 afterwards. I have also played around with the wave designer and I am able to get a longer decay on the bass drum, not as long as the one on the TR-8, but much longer than without the wave designer engaged. I really like what the wave designer does to the clap. However, it would have been nice if the wave designer circuit had it's own dedicated separate audio output instead of going back through the main mix output.

@vincentdewildenberg4529 3 года назад

@@kvmoore1 Yeahhh, totally agree.. ! But's a real success for a first clone

@Cray23_Official 4 года назад

13:56 should’ve added some lift music to pass the time 😭😭😭

@davidosolo 3 года назад

Because nearly all these Roland boxes are digital, I think Roland cloud is the way to go, instead of going with the D-05 for example. However, in the case of the TR-08, the physical buttons and knobs are a big plus, of course when compared to the VST.

@chrisbarnette7137 Год назад

I got the rd-8 and what you said is true. It has more " grit " to it, I won't say " distortion " but it's darker sounding. It can be cleaned up in a mixer or DAW.

@alexmagor7538 Год назад

In short the roland sounds bright/sharp/clean/digital, the Behringer sounds more analog/fatter/old school and closer to the original I think.

@farben_ 4 года назад

Best way is to judge without knowing which machine is playing and guessing, I was surprised to see that even the TR08 has better sounding Toms, maybe people don't care about these sounds but if you're a fan of Detroit electro from the 90's they play a significant part, the RD-8 has some positive aspects but it all boils down to what style of music you want to make.

@robinspiers8109 4 года назад

Thanks for the executive summary at the beginning, great idea for us "bottom line" personality types!

@Ni5ei 4 года назад

34:15 You can clearly hear the lack of reverb on the RD-8 clap here. Has this been fixed by now?

@StarskyCarr 4 года назад

I think it’s inherent in the design.

@esekion1 3 года назад

There is no reverb on any sounds.

@thesrabbit 4 года назад

I think stereo makes a big diff in the overall sound. An 8-channel mixer can be had for pretty cheap, and then maybe add a couple pedals as fx sends and that would make a pretty sweet setup. But that would make it probably 10 times the physical footprint of the boutique. I ordered the RD-8 because it seems more intuitive for “composing” (TM) beats. Then I can capture the MIDI in the DAW and use whatever I want for the drums sounds if I so choose. I’m hoping it will be a solid choice for that purpose, if it ever arrives.

@Worldnewstime. 4 года назад

I prefer the rd8 also a salute to the engeneers to bring back those awesome 80s stuffs

@jomak9 3 года назад

It proves that they still care about music.

@lindsaywebb1904 3 года назад

Has anyone analysed how well the rd8 syncs to midi clock?

@braincoral9866 4 года назад

lol - "the Roland Cloud version is the best for the studio"...You just saved me £300 :D I'm getting an RD8 anyway but maybe not quite as quickly as I was going to

@lownrgy 4 года назад

funny thing is.. RD-8 sync is unusable for live setup

@braincoral9866 4 года назад

@@lownrgy in or out?

@lownrgy 4 года назад

@@braincoral9866 sync in

@benmast7089 4 года назад

I also have both. Sound different enough for me to hold them both. But maybe I am just addicted to drummachines :)

@lcaise 4 года назад

abslutly not - for example, RD8 cowbell is a joke. Overall sound of RD8 is more warm but MUDDY as hell.

@volt7cooltangs701 4 года назад

Addicted to drum machines too. Wonderful things.

@sheriffderek 3 года назад

I want something for the sounds (slight live adjustments) - and to control it with an MPC. Which one would you choose - just for that? I think I'm ok with the stereo out in this case.

@mattd23 2 года назад

I'm looking to go down this Rd as it's how I used to work. I don't want to run a computer with Cubase/ logic. Have you found a sequencer that can do real time for this?

@sheriffderek 2 года назад

@@mattd23 I ended up buying a Novation DrumStation.

@GullySyde28 3 года назад

I have programmed 808s for years on daw and my main hing for jungle and even trap is to be able to use 808 like a note, you cant have 2 kicks or you cant program a kick pattern? can you tweak the Tune knob on a sequence and it saves??

@StarskyCarr 3 года назад

No you can’t retune in a sequence. There are no parameter lock style adjustments.

@GullySyde28 3 года назад

@@StarskyCarr Thanks man i still want a RD8 though lol

@FlockStudio 3 года назад

At around 6:20 you miss the long decay on the RD-8. To achieve this you will have to use the SEND button and turn the sustain up all the way.

@StarskyCarr 3 года назад

I didn’t miss it. It’s a new function from the firmware update that wasn’t available in initial release.

@niknayme3754 4 года назад

As my great great great grandad used to say, you can never have too many 808 clones :) Both good, one's as analogue as the original, the other's as close as digital will get to an 808. The TR8 and TR8s are both as good for 808 sounds and the Cloud version is fab as well. Get 'em all! Apart from the Cloud one, you'll always be able to sell again without too much trouble..

@niknayme3754 4 года назад

@@ROBERTTONUS That's maybe because of the RD8 coming out? Hang on to it for a year or two. People will want the Boutiques when Roland stop making them. Until they brought out the JU06A, the JU06 was quite hard to get second hand and more expensive than the original asking price.

@StarskyCarr 4 года назад

I’ll buy it for £100 ;) it depends on what your asking I suppose 😀

@StarskyCarr 4 года назад

ROBERT TONUS haha... good try - my grandmother said god loves a trier :) ... they’re new in amazon for £280 with warrantee and money back guarantee etc... which is prob why your having trouble selling it ;)

@niknayme3754 4 года назад

No no, don't sell your Boutiques now. Wait. Much maligned 'cos they're not analogue, and you need kids fingers to use 'em, but they're actually really good anyway. Shhhh! Don't sell, buy cheap!

@DarossTheGreat 4 года назад

I see a lot of people saying the Bear sounds better, but for me, using sennheiser hd650s through a tube amp, the difference is night and day in favor of the roland...

@_EightySix 4 года назад

Good, because i have the TR08

@fortheloveofnoise9298 4 года назад

The UI makes the Behringer worth it regardless.

@Spherical_El 4 года назад

Maybe you are just into clear, brighter (louder) sounds. I wondered whether the kick will sound to dominating in the mix, although clearly more impressive in isolation 🤔

@gixerags750 2 месяца назад

I got the RD9, Roland TRO8 integration with Serato TR Sync is great but sticking with Recordbox as Serato requures a subscription, Audio over USB and Roland MX1 integration is cool , but i id going for the RD8mk2 , not only for rhe price but effects and RD9 workflow familiarity, and the TR08 is pisssant small .with the Behringers it feels more like the OEM originals. Great video m8 .😊

@ME-ru4hv 4 года назад

6:07 did you match these for decay length? the rd8 either looks zoomed or depleted of info.. I wanted one of these for all it can do. I would rather have analogue but it sounds different to me.

@StarskyCarr 4 года назад

I took 2 hits of equal duration, but stretched/compressed the screen grabs to fit the screen. Hope that’s ok. What you hear is what they sound like. I’ve not manipulated any audio.

@ME-ru4hv 4 года назад

@@StarskyCarr is it ok? lol just wanted to know if there was a correlation with the visual and audio difference. Did not think you messed with the sound. I hope it was ok to ask about it. I like your work.. its helpful.. I dont mean to be give a hrad time ever

@StarskyCarr 4 года назад

Haha no worries.

@rwnet1 4 года назад

@@StarskyCarr Can I ask, as I don't own one of these: does the R8 trigger stop as soon as you take your finger off, is that why the kick drum decay was so short ? if its that short, I am dissapointed.. in fact a bit gutted tbh..

@Sancld 4 года назад

good job!

@QuanticeProductions 4 года назад

What DAW Do you use Starsky? Hate the word "Daw" Computer Software to remember record ones musical thoughts 😄😄😄 4

@StarskyCarr 4 года назад

Quantice Productions I use Logic. ... and in the old days we called it a sequencer!

@MrOuija-rr8kq 3 года назад

People always compare these type of things together. But the honest truth is , as long as it’s close , there’s nothing an EQ won’t fix

@NatLifeSounds 3 года назад

I thought so before, with a 20 years of VST expripience in a bag, but its not so man, really. Not all can be fixed with eq.

@yakadori 2 года назад

how you connect with microkey? usb cable?

@synthartist69 4 года назад

Behringer RD8 hands down, bigger, analog, individual outs... unbelievable low price!!!

@lcaise 4 года назад

yeah, that's why they stole projects since 90s :D LOL

@basicnoise 4 года назад

I had the TR-8 and always thought that there is something wrong with the 808 hihats. I just didn't like them. They sound similar on the TR08, somehow strange filtered or something. On the Behringer it reminds me much more on real 808 hats. Rounder, not that aggressive. This plus the overall grittier sound, the much better sequencer and individual outs would make my decision easy.

@Spherical_El 4 года назад

Yes I got this feeling. But it all comes down to the bass drum for me. Starsky pointed out the quicker pitch envelope on the RD may sound better in a mix and he might be right from his demos. In isolation the 08 kik sounded clearly superior, but maybe too clear in context. I'm still undecided, though I did seem to like the RD full mixed better. Sequencer wins hands down

@4xxx449 3 года назад

Hi pal, great vid but what is that keyboard underneath the roland? Thx

@StarskyCarr 3 года назад

It’s a Korg Microkey Air 25

@fjfrancois 4 года назад

13:19 More Cow Bell :)

@mikaelschloenzig9590 4 года назад

Digital costly minitoy made by the original creators vs a cloned sought after dream machine to a price you would never belived possible?So fun with (analog) synths and drummachines again ,thanks Roland for making the originals ,but a much much bigger thanks to Behringer.

@LochNessAnthony 3 года назад

Why is the RD-8 so quiet here?

@girlinagale 4 года назад

The RD8 fill placement is total win for me.

@StarskyCarr 4 года назад

It's so much more useable. I was quite shocked when trying to add fills on the TR08. How anyone managed doing that live I'll never know!

@don1mega 4 года назад

Imagine, The original TR-808 with all the features of The TR-08 and with sampling capabilities and many other features, (I can't tell too much). Roland TR-808 MKII...............................................Arriving in 2020.

@noordholland648 4 года назад

Word

@do2k76 4 года назад

Which means Roland needs to pull its head out of the ass 🙂

@zoundsic 4 года назад

The vst will take up cpu and then you got the latency to think about depending on what your trying to do. RD-8 probably edges it over the TR-08 for me because of build quality. Those Roland boutiques have sockets that are not very strong especially the usb and if you don't put it in a rack and leave it, it's guaranteed problems before you know it, which completely defeats the point of being portable and able to carry a few around to stick into a k-25m keyboard. Which is why I just decided I may as well get the UNO instead cos I aint lugging about a RD-8. Someone's going to do some pretty amazing stuff on the RD-8 once they learn't it as a instrument but can't see myself dedicating the hours to master it to it's full potential.

@paul_ward_music 4 года назад

Interesting comparison. Thanks. My decision - TR-8S... It's pretty much the best average of all worlds.

@StarskyCarr 4 года назад

Hah I’m hearing that a lot. So I’ve a TR8, TR08, RD -8 and now need to sell them all for a TR8s aaarghhhh :) lol

@paul_ward_music 4 года назад

@@StarskyCarr You know it makes sense, mate! Lol!

@ConwayBob 4 года назад

That's exactly what I ended up doing a couple of weeks ago. Found a mint-condition used TR-8s at a decent discount and snatched it up. Before that, I'd been leaning strongly toward the Behringer RD-8. But it's Roland TR-8s time for me, at least for now. No regrets so far.

@paul_ward_music 4 года назад

@@ConwayBob Good for you, Bob. I've loaded my TR-8S up with all the drum machine samples I need, including Linn, Simmons, CR-78, Drumtracks, Fairlight... With the included modelled sounds and facility for sample import it pretty much makes the TR-8S every drum machine I ever owned or wanted to own. The extra analogue outputs are a boon for me - switching ASIO drivers to record separate outputs is a PITA.

@paul_ward_music 4 года назад

@@StarskyCarr If you want to try one out I could lend it for a week or two. I'm in Sheffield.

@danielm5838 3 года назад

Tr 08 is louder, crisper, and that cowbell and open hat is much better than the rd 8. I wish it had that 808 grit like the rd 8, but the fact that the rd 8 bass doesn't have the same oomph as the tr08 pretty much kills it for me. Which kind of sucks, seeing that the primary drum sounds, to me, sound better on the tr 08, cowbell included. While the rd 8's toms, claps, claves, cymbal, and rims sound better. Would be nice if I could just buy both 🤔

@_EightySix 4 года назад

I just wish Roland would make a Boutique form factor USB interface with 10 analog outs for the Boutique drum machines. Also a Boutique 606. I don't think they'll ever make a Boutique 606 or 707 because the real deals can still be had for pretty cheap.

@slavikdoter 2 года назад

Tr6s

@josephwright5921 4 года назад

The Roland is just too dang small for me. I like the tone shaping options of the Behringer and the individual outputs are awesome. I can run them into a plethora of stomp boxes and rack units. Also, the analog filter on the BEHRINGER is the deal sealer. There is nothing like real analog filters in real time. The bottom line is that even if the RD8 is only 90% close to the original 808, it sounds good enough for me and is big enough to jam with live without being overly careful to bump the wrong knob. I already own Roland Boutique SE 01 and D 05, so Roland has already received a fair share of my business. Those synths are great, but the feel a little cheap. My DeepMind 12 desktop, Neutron and VC340 are well built.

@TheDddkkk 4 года назад

What is the 10% you dont hear is 808. I really wonder. I owned the original i sold it as it had issues i didnt had the money to fix it. But now i own thus behringer and its just amazing. I think close to 98,7

@josephwright5921 3 года назад

@@TheDddkkk I wasn’t saying it is definitely only 90% close. I was saying it is good enough for me and I prefer analog over samples.

@mindtones770 4 года назад

Hard to judge, Levels matched for sure?

@StarskyCarr 4 года назад

read the description... it seems not!

@43audio89 3 года назад

TR08 Allows you to drop your own samples into ableton and use TR's step sequencer for all the instruments. Very fun. Even does the tripplets.

@inf0tr8r 3 года назад

you can do that with any drum machine with midi out

@aliasghar907 3 года назад

Why record individually....less interferance of different sounds?

@LochNessAnthony 3 года назад

On the Rd-8 it’s so you can apply effects to individual channels.

@cymonalex 4 года назад

Interesting reviews.... I had the original... certainly from a mix point of view, there’s nothing in it... Great work!

@VincentsVideoVisions 4 года назад

The TR08 sounds brighter and louder but that could be because of some sort of compression? I prefer the kick drum on the TR08 personally. Overall I think they are both nifty machines but if I were to buy one it would probably be the RD8 because of the UI and the individual analog outputs. I also do like the wave designer. The clave and rim shot on the TR8 sound nicer IMO, especially the clave. The cowbell on the RD8 is definitely better IMO. The cymbals on the TR8 sound like crap compared to the RD8 - extremely digital sounding. Same with the open and closed hats. That said, even the RD8 hats don't sound that great compared to a real 808 or other analog drum machines like a Tanzbar or Vermona DRM mkIII. That said, I think something like a TR-8s or a used RYTM mk1 would be better because although they both cost more than either of these units, they offer so much more. I got a mk1 RYTM recently for $600 USD and it's amazing because each sound can have a sample AND analog synthesis, plus lots of sound shaping options, fx, p-locking, etc. That said

@StarskyCarr 4 года назад

$600 wow... an excellent purchase. I spent over £1000 on mine.. new a few years back

@PartsandRestoration 11 месяцев назад

I like that the Repeat Triggers section was repeated. Cheeky

@livier3970 Год назад

Like both

@darenager 4 года назад

TR-08 for me. Midi cc and all sounds available simultaneously, small size, audio over USB, plus it sounds much better, RD-8 sounds dull and muddy, lacking the crispness of a TR-808 especially on kick, toms, congas. RD-8 hats and cymbals sound ok though. Unfortunately for the RD-8 no amount of software updates will solve its major flaw - it doesn’t sound like a TR-808, especially apparent when you listen to the pattern shootouts at the end, RD-8 sounds lifeless and flat, just use your ears.

@monokult6610 4 года назад

I have both and RD-8 sounds a little bit better in real live then tr-08 for sure. Tr-08 sounds lifeless because sounds are digital and not unique per step. Rd-8 is full analog and sounds different. Not 100% tr-808 but better then tr-08. + tr-08 size is like a kids toy! Maybe good for play live but for studio i prefer rd-9 because this thing has outs for every instrument. A must have in the studio!

@esekion1 4 года назад

WE talking about 8 bits samples wh Can be stored on a floppy disk.

@savanaviolenta 3 года назад

Agree. From Behringer I bought only the good ones : Model D and Deep Mind 12,the rest are kind of meh

@esekion1 3 года назад

@Ordinary Joe of course it is ! 808 come from the 80's

@victorhugod387 3 года назад

For me this is about Volume. The RD-8 is not loud enough!!

@naev.3344 6 месяцев назад

I really like the larger size of the rd8 and the ability to correct without starting over. However, I prefer the clarity of the TR08. This is difficult...

@sonicultura 4 года назад

The Roland sounds better I think! Sounds like it could stick out better in a mix as well? :)

@drake1011 3 года назад

much better

@nicholasfaith8999 2 года назад

Had they gave the Rolands full outputs I'd bought one...

@juliodelgado8273 4 года назад

Bueno y util👍

@KneegrowthPeriodTV 4 года назад

29:52 Easy Tiger🐯

@waheex 3 года назад

hate to say it but I prefer the TR-08 sound wise. Was all ready to buy a RD8.

@omarbonifacino3381 Год назад

Hi Friend. Very great tutorial. Mk2 Is great sound and constant reverbero

@s3nsec0rruptr80 2 года назад

Damn. I like the clap mix function in the rd8. The Roland seems like they were mostly concerned with making the kick big and boomy, and phoned in some other things, especially UI. I don't care about that boomy kick since I don't do hip hop or house, so I guess it's the rd8 overall for me. Which sucks because I have room for the Roland firm factor more than the rd8... dammit

@s3nsec0rruptr80 2 года назад

Hell of I could get a cr78 or a clone I'd probably go for that, but the 808 shares a lot of similar sounds and the rd8 is probably better for making those kinds of beats.

@cheapskate3063 4 года назад

not having those side by sides vu matched ugh

@StarskyCarr 4 года назад

Ugh they were

@spectrumcommand1188 4 года назад

the Behringer RD-8 for me I just can't stand the size (plus being battery powered eco sort of thing and yes I know it's usb power capable) just annoys me to great extent if the TR08 was full size and was plug powered then I would have been all for it but it's size and battery power it puts me off from buying it if I wanted anything from Roland I'd just buy their MC-707 simple as. plus the RD-8 being analogue that TR08 just sounds to clean with that digital circuitry that muddy sound of the RD-8 is just right for what I'm wanting to make and all the extra features on it individual outs plus that on board wave designer that's ticks the right boxes for me. if I wanted boutique synths I'd go to a proper boutique synth company such as Twisted Electrons I guess also the TR08 is a digital mini clone of a original full size analogue drum machine at least the AY3 & HapiNES are their own original synths (ok based of 8-bit gaming consoles but at least not cloned) I will be getting those 2 in future. I guess I'm picky with what I get I like things specific lol.

@StarskyCarr 4 года назад

I have to say the battery power/usb power is really annoying !!

@D.Z.A.-kp8lf 4 года назад

RD 8 hands down

@chesterpoobum 3 года назад

I was all ready to get a RD-8. But this video changed my mind! The TR-08 sounds much better then the Behringer!! I don't think Roland gets enough credit. Btw, I've owned a real 808 for over a decade, but just sold it. The going rate for 808's are through the roof. I had to sell before they eventually drop in price. I'm very familiar with it's sound. And the TR-08 is much closer!

@latenightfortunecookie 2 года назад

lol they will never drop in price

@thegrinderman1090 2 года назад

@@latenightfortunecookie Of course they will. There's been a big trend for 80's/90's throwbacks and analogue gear in recent years. It might keep growing for a while but it will pass eventually.

@ChazSeamus28 4 года назад

I'm really thinking about getting Roland cloud.. just for the juno and drums

@StarskyCarr 4 года назад

I do think its shame you have to purchase everything. There was an 808 day sale and I think it was $5 p/m for the 808 alone... but if you had the Juno plus 808 and 909 you've be paying $15 p/m might as well go to $20 for the lot!!

@alejandrohualdez5550 4 года назад

How could I not subscribe after all the great synth demos?...I'm from the 80s for God's sake!!! One thing though; why do Behringer make the D synth more compact than the Minimoog, yet the RD 8 is huge compared to the Roland!!!

@StarskyCarr 4 года назад

Thanks... I suppose Behringer are filling a gap in the market - there was no budget, small Model D available, and no large analog 808 clone... there is now!

@alanmaxwell4945 4 года назад

Jason Olds You don’t recall how big the original TR-808 is ?

@PeteHorsham 4 года назад

I've got both now. My conclusion: The RD-8 is much more inspiring to play (live!) and sounds very slightly better (less toppy and more silky analog sounding) BUT the TR-08 is great for the multi-track digital record thing - even if that is a bit awkward to do mid track writing, because you have to switch to it as a soundcard (in Ableton at least). The TR-08 is just too damn small! Both good overall.

@Digiphex 4 года назад

The RD-8 strikes me as more inspiring to get me playing.

@StarskyCarr 4 года назад

It does invite you to start pushing buttons

@deemarr9151 4 года назад

i just did some nizter ebb..skinny puppy ...then went ...morly,,bit early orb..electro...bliss!!!!

@MadelnMachines 4 года назад

The Roland has a very clean and bright modern hi-fi sound. The RD-8 sounds all old, deep and moody. I wish Roland would stop making these tiny little toy boxes. The Volcas can sod off as well.

@StarskyCarr 4 года назад

Now a huge fan of tiny boxes myself... but they do have their uses. The only ones I’ve kept are the TR09 and TR8. TR09 fits in a draw and is very handy and sounds great. TR8 is good for jamming, but doesn’t sound as good. REALLY liked the TD8 but is just so dammed big (can’t believe I’m actually saying it). It was fantastic hands in but took up the room where the Grandmother now sits!!