Elaini Young Honestly, she tried to break his curse without consent, and we all know how that went. And time and time again she uses his love for her to manipulate him to do what she wants, and then when he does what he wants, he has to lie to her to because he is compelled to, because he's afraid she will leave him, because that's what Belle does, she runs away, instead of talking with Rumple. And when she does stop to talk, it's usually her manipulating him, degrading him, and yelling at him. He has changed for her and became a hero for her, it still wasn't good enough for her, so now he accepts who he is. She once said she loved even the parts that belonged to the darkness, yet never proved it, she's always telling him to change. I don't understand how they can have true love, yet the writers are constantly making Belle put stipulations on thier relationship. season 6 Belle is not the Belle we all fell in love with. She has completely flipped characterization, and I don't understand how Rumple will ever heal from her betrayals.
J Rouzaud I agree 100* she through him a loop when he was just a ordinary man. When he saved her from the bear person! She treated him like he was a nobody. and when she was with Neal she did say I even LOVE THE DARKNESS in hiim
@@chloehanley1475 coming from an adopted persons pov, I have abandonment issues from my adoptive parents. My brith parents died before I even got the chance to say hi. Everyone who knew about me was trying to find me and was prepared for me to show up. It isn't always the adoption. It's the adoptive parents.
I’m so glad I was adopted! My biological parents were drug addicts and my biological mother took drugs when she was pregnant with me and caused me to have so many continuous health issues even today and when she had the choice between drugs and me she chose drugs over me. She never even came to any of her scheduled visitations when I was a baby! Then I got sent to a horrible abusive foster mom when I was a baby who never picked me up when I cried and who apparently has a lot of questionable men around all the time and she also shook me. But then my adoptive parents met when I went to my mom’s daycare she ran she noticed something was off about my foster mother and noticed that she acted like she didn’t care about me so she reported her and a cps worker she knew contacted my adoptive parents one day and asked if they wanted to adopt me and they said yes! They are truly the best parents a girl could ask for! They’ve spent so much time and money on treating my disabilities and trying to give me a better life than I could be having right now! I don’t know where I would be without them!! Adoption truly is such a blessing!
Emilie's portrayal of Belle in terms of live action cinema is honestly my most favorite that I have seen, she really nailed her role on point from beginning to the end. Wish she got casted in the Beauty And The Beast live action but then again Once Upon A Time was way more special anyway!
@@soixsantes She is just too good as Belle and for sure everything she put into her portrayal made her feel real I honestly don’t know how she was not in for the Live Action Movie but she does a better job at portraying as Belle than Emma Watson ever did
This is why I love Rumbelle so much. It’s so real. I totally understand why Belle is doing this, but I also don’t agree with it-yet Rumple is the one who pushed her here. Their acting (and chemistry) is SO good 🤩
@@jamestolbert1856 i know, when I say pushed I meant his actions caused her to not trust him with the baby. I just meant his actions pushed her to push back, and it made a mess.
Emma did that plain and simple because she has not regard for Rumple's rights as a father at all. Did you forget the scene where she was basically making fun of Rumple with Hook when she entered his shop afterward this scene and commented on the mess saying "oh someone's had a temper tantrum." That in itself made me lose all respect for Emma and for Belle. Rumple did everything right in raising Baefire, even losing his humanity to become the dark one to protect him! He raised Baefire alone for years after Mia had run off with Hook of all people! And Rumple only lost him because he hesitated for a moment to follow Baefire in that portal. Emma and Belle know Rumple's tragic story, but yet, for Emma to say something so callous like that to Hook (who's a big reason why Rumple became the Dark One in the First place?)? I can't....
Undriel Grenger yes but all rumple did to belle was lie to her and hurt her (not physically) and he was going to use the shears to make sure Gideon didn’t hate him which was wrong he was also planning to use the potion anyways. He was a liar and a bad man but I am glad that they worked it all out in the end and that he died honourably and was a good man in the end but at this time he was not a good person
@Sarah Hamilton No, she did not....she was completely mistrustful and she paid for it in the end....you saw what Belle caused right? Rumple son ended up becoming a stooge for the black fairy as a result of her silly actions
I believe he knew right away who did this to Belle, I have to agree with the EQ even though it pains me...Belle believes Rumble did it. I also, believe Belle finds out who. I saw pics 6-11 it shows Robin Hood and the others, and Belle and Rumble standing together outside a building like a wearhouse.
I understand why Belle decided to send her son away, thinking that Rumple decided to go all psycho... However, I'm not cool with her letting the baby go with the Blue Fairy. I'm with Rumple, honestly. I don't like the fairies. They're seriously shady. But you know, I also just realized something. After Belle tells Rumple that the baby's best chance is a life without him in it, Rumple begins to speak, but Belle cuts him off. Kind of sad, since I think Rumple was about to try to explain that he didn't do it, but then simply decided not to because he realized she'd never believe it. Which, honestly, is probably a fair assumption.
Supreme Overlorde I agree but I also agree why she did it and everything. I kind of found love but people think we can't be married cause I'm dissabled but I see sadness in my lovers eyes too and no matter what happens even if we fight I'll never leave him and I think every girl should be like me and belle and I also agree that illl never give away my child even if I'm separated my life with my husband but still Married I'll let him see my son.
Supreme Overlorde Blue, at least, doesn't believe in redemption. Look at what she did to Tink and how she was so cold to Rumple after he lost Baelfire. She only helps the "pure of heart" and the rest of the realms can go burn.
To be fair, Rumple has a better time using the phrase, "Child with the Blue Fairy as a Godmother" than his actual name if he were to go looking for him in the Enchanted Forest.
@UC6LQ6LDJ3Zk1Tb6jkMzoeCQ you're the bitch because you're being hateful on a fictional character for not wanting an evil man who treats her horrible and who forced her to wear a bracelet that he cast a tracking spell on and to make matters worse he then tried to force belle to drink a magic potion that would speed up her pregnancy and unfortunate for rumple some evil person like him speed up bell pregnancy and if rumple had continued to try and be a better person and not did what he have done to belle then belle wouldn't have send their son away with the blue fairy in fact she would be raising their son together with rumple but yet again rumple is own worst enemy.
@@beckyburton9749 Actually no. We blame that on the writers for not knowing what exactly they were doing and repeating and rinsing storylines constantly. That's who we're mad at when you really think about it. XD
Tabatha Swinburne YES, mist of us know EQ did. But the problem is that Belle believes that Rumble did it! and he knows she is hurting and would not believe him . I am concerned that the person coming to her in the DREAMS IS MAYBE NOT her real son!?? For Hyde told Rumble at the beginning that he was to go to the temple of a god of DREAMS,so maybe this god is after Rumble's happiness…
It's his fault because he cast a tracking spell on a bracelet that he force on belle and then he tried to force her to drink a magic potion that would speed up her pregnancy so that he could force the innocent child to love him.
“You abandoned our son?” That’s rich coming from you, you chose power over your firstborn. Belle saved him from you and gave him his best chance at a safe and good life. You put his mother and her friends through hell. Although I think Belle should’ve gone with Blue. She’s honestly just a bookworm that helps from time to time. But she’s the only reason Rumple hasn’t killed all of them
Belle didn’t deserve that at all. Also what’s the deal with everyone time traveling and being without their parents for 28 years?! Like what’s with the number….
I'm siding with Rumple. It'd be one thing if Ruby, or Emma, or even Leroy got the baby. But Blue? How does Belle know that giving Gideon to Blue isn't what gave him the Oedipus complex? He could spend years with this manipulative blue bitch, hearing nothing but stories about his saintly (albeit clueless) mother and his demonic, beastly father. And what if Blue never gives him back? Rumple will always want to be a part of his son's life (which is evil how, precisely?), and this isn't the first time Blue has willfully separated Rumple from his child. Hell, the last time she interfered with his custodial rights it led to their entire society being stuck in small town limbo for 28 years! What's gonna happen now?
Elaini Young She and the other Fairies could've stood up to Rumple centuries ago, or done any number of things to prevent the current circumstances. End either of the Ogre Wars before Rumple or Baelfire were drafted. Help Cora find a loving family to care for her bastard daughter. Save Queen Eva from Cora's poison. Tell Rumple where he could get another Bean to reunite with his son. Protect Charming and Snow while Snow was in labor. Help Regina escape her loveless marriage to Leopold. Convince the Apprentice to find someone other than Isaac to be the new Author. Teach Ingrid how to control her powers to avoid accidentally killing Helga. Protect Marian. Help a young Rumple find his way after being abandoned by his deadbeat father. And what did they do? Nothing, because Blue would strip any Fairy who broke her rules of their magic and leave them out in the cold!
i agree. bc after what tink did w regina. she stripped tink of her wings for showing her robin, all bc blue knew she was rumple's student. also, she knew rumple had killed several fairies in the time he had been TDO, he still has all their wands from the dead fairies he killed, and yet she only kept theblackfairy's wand, who is rumple's mom. i mean, if that isn't shady, then i don't know what is.... anymore. i mean, come on! her wand cudv been the1 thing for rumple to summon his mother and confront her some more &blue had her wand for yrs, kinda makes u wonder how she exiled gr8grandmastiltskin. rumor has it, robbie&stephen who play pan&malcolm may return later this season, since we may find out what she did w babygideon &turned him into morpheus. this entire thing with the fairies, id like to think she was queen until blue took over. i mean, y else wud rumple's mom look older than blue. i wanna know that untold story. bc if blue didnt know rumple was black's son, mayb thats y her heart was darkened and y she took children and soon after was exiled by blue. the w8n is killing me after 2wks, i wanna know already, lol
Caroline you know there are newborn babies that are used for series with the permission of their parents i dont think the actors are showing their rl kids
You know....in this moment, I truly believe Rumple when he says he wouldn't hurt his son.....or Belle. Why would he have just watched her give the baby back to his parents? Why didn't he just take the baby back himself? He has magic...why not stop Blue? If you remember, earlier in the episode when Rumple brought the other child to Belle he said "Why give something a name that you aren't going to get attached to?" Why would Rumple want to know his son's name if he truly didn't love him?
I love how Emma and Hook look up sharply at Rumple when Belle says he can do what he will with her. Like yeah you put her through enough, we will kick your ass if you try anything.
You have really lost it...Emma and Hook can do Squat against Rumple. They have like Half-his intelligence as far as wit and tactics, and even Emma's magic is weak compared to the Dark One's power. Hook has even lest of an advantage as he just has his metal hook of a hand. And yeah, they both know also how much Emma knows how much it hurts to be separated from her child, she knows how well Rumple raised Bae to be good man and how much he sacrificed to protect Bae, she knows how good a father Rumple is basically (minus his brief cowardice at the portal when he was afraid and hesitated, letting Bae go through the portal without him), and Emma also knows that Rumple deserved to have his son just as much as Belle. She was just cold and didn't care a bit about Rumple's rights or feelings, and even joked about Rumple's grief with Hook (of all people) later in this episode when go in his shop and find things broken up. Hook basically turned Rumple into the Dark One so he was the last person Emma (and Belle) should have had helping them. Belle KNew and Saw how much Rumple Hated Fairies because of his mother, and she literally show how evil and ruthless his mother was when he summoned her, but yet, she practically spit in his face and sent Gideon off with Blue fairy, knowing Rumple would be even more tramatized over the possible fate of his son. Frankly, by pulling such a wicked move, Rumple was within his rights to use all his dark magic to rain fire and destruction on those ungrateful Charmings (including Hook and Emma).
Belle did not abounded him she wants him to have a good life and a great future with a kid and wife of his own I'm proud Belle give her son to the blue fairy to be his fairy godmother to read him a book knowing him he would always be there for him
What do they have to do to make me trust Blue cuz I don't? lol. Should've gave that baby to Nova, let her and Grumpy run off with him lol. I wouldn't trust Rumple with my baby either. Everybody wanted them to have a baby, be careful what you wish for. I knew that wasn't going to go well.
Jay P. Yes and to add to that, they always cut to her with a shady look on her face. The show would have to actually end with no reveal of her being evil for me not to believe she's evil.
The main key is trust tho.. I believe from the flashback we already knew that Belle and Blue met each other before and trust each other. It is not shown yet if Belle met Nova. And to think again, the only fairy that defeated Black Fairy is Blue. And Nova, might still be too rookie to be a fairy godmother. Nova, hmm we haven't seen her true potential in fairycraft and Grumpy, too grumpy. But Blue, it is proved through the story that she is a very powerful fairy itself. And for me look did not unveil how their personality is lol.
Right? Then in season 7, beans seem to be plentiful because everyone's just going wherever, whenever they feel like it. Yet Rumple couldn't find a SINGLE bean to follow Baelfire to a land without magic.
Belle should have realized that Rumple turned borderline evil cause his parents did the same thing to him that she did with their son. He had abandonment issues and doing that would make him more evil. I hated Belle so much.. ug
Belle: will you he his fairy godmother. Keegan: now ots my time tonportray Belle my way and let's see how many recognition I get for playing Belle. Reality:a Watson played the live action Belle she did what page o hara did
I know people are hating on Belle for this but I don’t blame her for not trusting Rumple. How many times have they been in this position? How many times has she been on the opposite end of him “doing what’s best” for their family? Seeing him hurt their friends left and right for his gain. Knowing he was going to remove their child’s free will of choosing his destiny WITHOUT telling Belle the reason. She acted as any mother world when someone is coming to harm their baby. Also I don’t believe she fully knew he would harm their child, in reality taking away your child’s destiny and purpose right from birth is harmful enough and extremely damaging. You don’t know the repercussions of that being done and if we look at Rumple as the only example of that being done then we see the results are NOT good.
i was both happy and sad that he didn't even meet his son, the only person rumple cares about is himself. he doesn't want Belle to hurt him, but he ruthlessly lies and hurt her.
Muniira Ali he cares about his children to.... If he didn't he wouldn't have killed himself for pan, he wouldn't have saved belle those countless times, putting himself at risk, he wouldn't have gone to never land, he would have just had fun hooking up with the evil queen.
@@danm5925 bullshit he doesn't love neil because if he did he would have given up his magic powers when neil asked rumple to give up his magic powers up for the first time but rumple chooses his magic powers over neil and he chooses magic powers over his son the second time neil asked his father to give up his magic powers but rumple refused to do it and he allows his to go into another world without his father and rumple had a chance to go into the other world with his son before the portal is closed for good but rumple chooses his magic powers over neil. Now he is putting his own selfish needs and wants over his second son and belle and none of this would have happened if rumple hadn't continues to do the pass beyond evilness then belle wouldn't have pushed him away or try and deprive him of his son but be honest rumple willing allowed henry to died to get his way and it doesn't matter if he wasn't at fault for Henry eating the poison apple that meant for emma because of Regina what matters is that emma risk her life to get a small bottle that has something in it that could save henry life and rumple took it for himself.
You go Belle finally taking charge of your own life and doing what is best for your son! Rumple, all you have ever done was hurt her! I have never been your biggest fan or your fan at all but this season you have gone too far!
DevinePerez96 that's stupid of you . I love all of them and I can tell they all did things in the past but they love all each other that is why he gave his son up that why rumple did those cause protecting the people and family he loved and I understand that and remember that evil queen is a threat and he a grandfather of Emma's and the queens son. You should watch the show again season 1 and up to and learn what happens. I hope your not a child cause kids not alowed to watch this. At least he's not the type of man that abandoned his family or tell his wife to give it up or kill it like some stupid people and I hate doctors killing babies and I hate parrents forcing teen girls to give it away or abandon there own child or grandchild and not help. That's what type of stupid and sick people will do.
Skii Riettie Rumbelle is the definition of an abusive relationship. How could you be okay with him? It doesn't matter that he is Henry's godfather or did you miss last season's finale? He was willing to kill Henry.
Skii Riettie whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa! Hold the fuck up from the beginning of the season all he has done was abuse her! He tried to manipulate her; he told her that she needs him; he gripped her up to out a bracelet on her. Not one has Belle gone to the others for help but She certainly did this season. She was afraid for her life! It doesn't matter if he loved her or not that is abuse, and it is not okay. Just because he loves her, doesn't make it okay at all! You obviously know nothing about love. I repeat it does not matter how much he loved her that is no excuse for his actions! And you disgust me, for trying to justify the terrible things that he has done.
And why did he put a bracelet on her? Because she was already threatening to take his child away forever...something she had Zero right to do! Rumple would have been a bad father if he allowed Belle to just walk off into the night with is son and not do something about it!
I'm distracted by the eyelashes. I wish the producers had better judgement on women's appearances. The fellows look good, why can't Belle and Snow? Now Lana, she rocks heavy makeup.
Belle is officially ah....dumb? She damn well knows Rumple would never hurt her or his son! She knows him better than anyone! He loves his children if nothing else. Something or someone is controlling her thoughts and I think it the baby, or rather whoever it was that "woke" her in the dream. The goal of that person was to create suspicion and hatred in Belle against Rumple and Rumple has been reacting to her rejection of him ever since bc he thinks she's going to take his son from him. This is all a ploy by this "so " to drive them apart so he can completely control Belle. WAy to go, Belle, good job in abandoning your son who winds up being kidnapped by the BLACK FAIRY!! Can't blame Rumple for this!
@@mkg2124 didn't henry temporary died because rumple tricked emma into giving the small bottle that had something in it that could save henry life then he acted like he did nothing wrong he he was called out for his wrong doing. Also he before his first born son ended in another world he was asked to give up his magic but he always choose magic over Neil .
It was the Evil Queen that sped up your pregnancy Belle because she loves Rumplestilskin very much but she doesn't love him very much now it is very sad that she had to give up Baby Gideon but Rumplestilskin left her no choice but to do that he will be safe and happy with Mother Superior than with her and everyone but one day Belle and everyone will be reunited with Gideon.
well, knowing what a backfire this whole giving up Gideon is going to be for Belle and her stupid allies(them mostly) and they actually made their own grave and misery, I can't help but to just laugh at them😂😂😂
I also find Belle a little disappointing... When we love someone we love this being for whatever he is. You can't say you love a man or woman if you want this man or woman to change and be like the IDEA you have of him or her. When Belle met Rumple she knew who he really was. He was the dark one not the charming prince. Belle wants the charming prince but Rumple will never be this way, he was and will stay the beast. She too much wants him to be like her idea of him. It's not loving ! So she had to accept this. I think Rumple is in love. He is just what he is. But Belle is the only one to lie in this story. She began this love story. And it's more hurting to him since she was the first one he loved in a long long time. She brought to him more tragedy in his story, it's crual ! PS : Sorry for my english but I'm french.
Claire Mallet The thing is Rumple was too depend on magic and loved his power more than the people who actually cared about him, for the last five seasons he's been trying unsuccessfully to change that. Every time Belle thinks he's changed he always reverts back to his old personality, by now Belle is just fed up with it.
Yeah Belle gooo and search for your prince Adam (as my message for writers for screwing them up over and over).... if you don't want the real Beast.... in the original tale of Beauty and the Beast..... the Beast was the Beast cause of his obssession for hunting animals.
Si, pero en realidad lo que ella vio que el podía ser mejor si el se lo proponía, y eso era lo que ella quería por que creía que el podía hacerlo, es lo que ella quería
You won't find Baby boy Gideon Rumple give him up he will be best to grow up without you but I am so glad that he was turned back into a baby again we don't have that luxury I can't wait to have kids one day
Wow, the Rumbelle hate is strong. IMO, they both make major mistakes and this be one of them. Ouch. Belle and Rumple finally know who they both are. This means tons of problems now but a POSSIBILITY of happiness later... if they accept each other. If not, Belle's right, it's over and it should be.
tbh to me, I always hated Belle she keeps forgiving Rumple after all the bad shit he helped caused and all the lies everyone around Belle knows that Rumple won't change he's in too deep with the Dark One's power he won't ever give that up but Belle always makes excuses for him and yells at the others because they gave Regina a second chance
Not trying to be rude but I thought Belle was selfish yeah I get that she wanted to give her son his best chance but she was so scared that Rumplestikin (sorry that I spelled his name wrong) was going to hurt him or kill him like why would he do that to his second son. In my option I think that the black fairy was in her head make her son say all those thing to her which was the reason why she gave him up. I like belle but she was selfish and a jerk and didn't stop to wonder why do I have to give him up because he told me too or he hates his father because he the dark one. I don't know what she was thinking but to me it was not the best decision that she made I would have kept Gideon and let Rumple see him and have Emma keep an eye on him but like I said it's my opion
Am I the only one who hated Belle’s choice on this. I mean like Rumple would never hurt his child. What makes it worse is first he loses his 1st son and now his 2nd child to. I am happy that he got his happy ending, but I just hated that Belle did this to Rumple, after everything that was low.
Honestly i agree with Belle, Rumple i love the dude but he has some deep issues that never really got solved (till later) and they have to many problems
Kinda find this whole Belle/Rumple thing a little stupid. There really was no point in sending the baby away. Stupid Belle will always be stupid on this show >:( Stop ruining the character Belle, ouat.
I actually find this Belle a lot better. Stupid is continuing to go back to man who clearly has no intentions of ever, really changing. And letting yourself be swayed by false promises and a Scottish brogue. That, is real stupidity.
h3ll0gudbye thank you! Somebody who finally agrees with me on Belle! I'm tired of hearing ppl say oh Belle was so brave! Belle was there when Rumple encountered his mother and that's the reason he hates fairies, so to be extra evil to Rumple, Belle sends his second son with a fairy after rumple already went to hell and back to find his first son just for him to die so quickly 😭 plus it doesn't help that she said to Rumple that she never wanted him to be perfect which in actuality she never accepted him when was getting better with drove him to be worse -_-
Elaini Young I agree there's always two sides the coin but it just seems like every time Rumple try's to be better Belle doesn't think it's ever enough, she wants him to be just like her but one day she's gonna have to accept that the beast inside him will always be there 😞
