Just bought one of these yesterday. Took forever it seemed like to figure out the hitting the muzzle part to break the barrel open. Definitely a heavy pistol, almost all metal and very accurate as you have shown and said.
I have had this pistol for several months now and find it is a lot of fun on my 29' range in my living room. The only thing i do not like about it is the trigger is absolute garbage, with a capital G. If you want to shoot on tuesday you start pulling the trigger the previous saturday. It starts very hard, then creeps about an 1/8th inch (real) then it is a chatterbox for a short time and finally a slow grind to release. The pistol is very quiet and accurate enough to cover groups with a dime.
Did you losen the trigger screw? Once you do that it lightens up the first stage. It's still a 6lb trigger. I am going to tear into it soon and see if I can lighten the pull.
Think you might have got a lemon or I might've lucked out the trigger online is beautiful but I've had it for quite a while now and do regular maintenance maybe I got lucky that sucks that you got a shit one with playing the trigger maybe there's a way you can take it apart and tighten it up I seen somebody doing this in videos with other air pistols like the Diana 22 co2 pistol with a few little tweaks he was getting from 500 feet per second out-of-the-box to almost 900 with 22 pistol that's freaking insane I don't know how to do all that fine-tuning but if you're good at that maybe check out some of those videos but that Diana pistol is on Amazon for $99 and it's a complete monster you can also buy the rifle kit that has an extended barrel and a suppressor and stock for like $49 more I think it's 149 that's one hell of a steel and it is absolutely silent
It's good and Beefy great gun accurate, tried cocking it once without the extension that was enough for me I just leave the thing on now wish they had just made it out of metal and made it nonremovable. Glad you finally did a review thanks
I wonder if they will come out with a suppressor extension soon. Quiet it down a bit more and completely legal in USA. I love mine. Thinking of converting mine into a suppressor myself. DonnyFL style. 🤔
I love mine. I've had it for about a month and it doesn't seem too pellet picky. It really loves RWS Hobby's however and just stacks them on top of each other at 10 yds.
They are great little guns for the price and with the trigger mod, as you know, are a pleasure to shoot. Thanks for tuning in and I appreciate your comments 👍
My dog cornered a Rat in my garage. I bought a Gamo break barrel. Killed 2 large adult rats, 4 smaller rats, and one blind mouse in 2 days. Hadn't seen a Rat in 4 days. Traps are still baited with no success. So I thought it was all over but nope. Returned home from work tonight. Found a hole in the corner of my front door. As I was eating I noticed a Rat by my front door watching me eat. Long story short my Gamo .22 shot through the rat and my door. Your excellent advice helped with my rifle and pellet purchases. So here I am looking for a pellet pistol. Thanks again....
@@AirgunDetectives and a Merry Christmas to you as well. Set up some bait last night. Didn't see any rats so I left the bait out and it was still there this morning. I'm hoping the rat problem is no longer a threat. Thanks for your air gun advice
I used to own this EXACT gun, but sold it because I got into PCP's but this is a good one !!!! EDIT : It's refreshing to see that .177's are still alive and well. There are a lot of us out here !
@@angelnavarrete7970 stands for "Pre-Charged Pneumatic" basically a high pressure air filled cylinder (like little CO2 on steroids). They're pressurized to 3,000+psi.
Hi JC, Nitro always around 😜. I liked this pistol, very robust and full of features for various styles of shooting, very good accuracy even with this heavy trigger and good price. All the best and continuation of an excellent summer 👍. Cheers
Hi Buddy, I actually thought of you when I pointed out Nitro. I knew you would appreciate it👍 I hope all is good and your 4 legged children are well. 😉
@@AirgunDetectives I wrote to crosman Benjamin and asked that question. Here was the response. Just passing it along. At this time Crosman/Benjamin does not offer a stock for the requested model. Information submitted to the New product manager. -- HelpDesk Support Velocity Outdoor
Hi from the U.K, I spotted this gun earlier. Well, your concise review just made me decide on this gun, of which is my first since along time ago. Thankyou buddy. Subscribed 👍🏻
I have had mine for 3 months now and I really love it. My only criticism is the picatinny rail at the bottom is absolutely useless. Won't fit a laser sight because there's not enough room to cock the break-barrel all the way. I love the dependability and accuracy. Picked up mine from Big 5 for $110. Trigger is great for me. Again.. don't put a picatinny rail on if we can't use it. What do you think about converting the extension into a suppressor? Seems quite doable.
Here's an FYI there's one old trick use the end of a headphone jack the big one and then put that into the cup of your pellet and turn it around you smooth out that edge before you stick it into your air rifle you will have more consistency with your lead pellets this way and if you have a AAA Battery laying around put that pellet Cup on top of that nipple on the AAA battery and then push that into your pellet gun it will seat perfectly all the way around evenly these two items can be bought online for about $100 or you could just use the cheap method which we all been using for almost 50 years
@@AirgunDetectives thank you very much it would help me lot's because I like to shoot it open sights and it's a little difficult with heavy trigger. Keep up the good work sir 😊👍
Hi J.C hope you are well, so glad you have done a review on this one I was thinking about getting one last year but wasn’t to sure on the NP but after watching I may have to now unfortunately can’t get the NP 2 only the first one in the UK at the moment I think could be wrong 👍🏻
Great review, it also fits in with our gun laws from across the pond. You reviewed the nemesis air pistol how about you review the Nemesis x rifle? Well done JC, keep up the good work.
Great information you provided in helping me to decide which break barrel pistol to get. I am looking at the Benjamin Trail NP Mark II, Umarex Trevox & Hatsan Model 25 Supercharger.
Hey Robert, stay away from the Hatsan. They have a plastic trigger assembly, and it is not if, but when it will fail. I would go with the Benjamin and do my trigger mod. It has a little better velocity than the Trevox. Have a great Christmas and thanks for tuning in👍🏻😉
Thanks for getting back with me so soon. I have bought quite a few break barrels that you have done reviews on. I enjoy what you do here. You are not a kid in his moms closet shooting at a shoe box. I am 60 yrs & a US Army 19delta Cavalry Scout Vet. 1982-1990 & riding motorcycles for 50 yrs. Air Guns are my new jam. Thanks for your reviews. @@AirgunDetectives
I bought this air pistol on air gun depot, got a few different pellets to try. Im thinking with a good pistol scope (2-7 power) 50 yards should be fun shooting cans on the mountain in my backyard.
Regarding the heavy trigger, which seems to be the only turn off for this gun, I found this comment on a review, ‘’ Replace the M3 .5mm x 8mm trigger screw with an M3 .5mm x 10mm screw tightly cinched down. Reduces the trigger creep and pull weight by at least 50%.’’ Similar as you suggested to adjust the Gamo Swarm trigger. As usual, excellent review JC. Y
Nice review man! Seemed like a very good brk barrel pistol. Accurate as hell. Surely the trigger seemed a bit heavy - but it still hit way good. 4.5 stars definitely.
@@AirgunDetectives All good here, thank you for asking. Hope all is well there also. Still have not opened up my Virtus. Decided to just shoot it as long as it holds pressure without leaks. I did add a shim to the regulator for a slight increase of tve output pressure - but the groups still remain that 2-3" at a 30 meter range. When finally a leak comes - then I'll open it up and start seeing what I'd possibky could do to it. Thinking of at least give the inner barrel a new tip and crown, since it does not look that high-precision made in the first place. Not sure - but as if the bore of the inner barrel might seem a wee bit oversized.. The cylindrical rear of a 5.5mm drill bit seemed to have quite a wiggle in there - so the 5.5mm caliber does not seem to be that accurate. Surely a 5.5mm drill bit might be 5.45 (or in that ballpark) in actual size when measured with a caliper.. But still remainikg to wait for a good reason to open it up. It has otherwise worked way good. No real issues whatsoever. The groups shot from a clamped rest just bums me out slightly..
@@brorjordas1979 I am way too busy to even mess with mine. I will wait for you to do the surgery and you can share the results. I still have the slow leak when the bottle is attached 😕
@@AirgunDetectives Yea.. Most of my time do vanish somewhere at work and around family.. Whenever I work on my airguns - it usually is after 9.00pm and long into the night. So I know that time can be hard to get sometimes..
@@brorjordas1979 I spent a few hours on the trigger today. I have to say....I figured it out. It now breaks at about 3 lbs. It has a nice light first stage then goes up against a 3 lbs. wall. I took it competently apart and polished all the contact points. I could almost call it match grade at this point. If you end up getting one of these I'll give all the details. I may do a video on it but there a some out there that may take it apart and not be able to put it back together 😉👍
Hey JC, Thanks again for the great review. I have the first gen Benjamin Trail NP and love it. It's a great pest control pistol. Stay Safe, Be Well, God Bless.
@@AirgunDetectives Well JC, Like I've said before, you've got great reviews and great content. Me and my kids are always psyched for Airgun Detectives!!! Keep them coming. Stay Safe, Be Well, God Bless.
I would love to see what you can do 22 caliber Diana Bandit PCP pistol. I think they are really under-rated! For $180 that they cost complete with silencer and 9 1/2 inch barrel and an adjustable trigger…I think they’re pretty freaking awesome for the money. Would you be willing to check into one? I think it would make an amazing video for you thank you and God bless I really enjoy your channel and videos. Take care bud!
I will have to see if I can grab one. Thanks for bringing that up. I would not have reviewed this Mark II if it wasn't for one of you loyal subscribers pointing it out. I appreciate you watching and thank you for the comments 👍
I have question : Your opinion ... can this gun be used for pest control such as mice or small birds? what is the maximum distance you suggest to do it? Thanks...
I already figured it out..I will put a video out. My trigger now breaks at about 3 lbs and it is amazing. A very soft first stage and a nice 3 lb wall at the 2nd stage. The best part is it does not cost anything but a little time to accomplish. #staytunedforairgundetectives
You always have very informative reviews. Don't you wish Crosman could figure out how to put decent triggers in their break barrels? It's a shame they keep making good air guns with crap ass triggers.
@@AirgunDetectives if you tear down this gun please do a video on how to put it back together. That's one thing that is still lacking in the community is disassembly videos. Been trying to find one for the Umarex nxg I only found one in Russian that's hard to see
I love your reviews bought the mark 2 love it but u have not got back wit me on where to get t shirts thank you merry Christmas n I was getting over 800 for dressing take care
I purchased this pistol and have been happy with it for target/plinking. This review helped me with my decision a couple months back, so thank you. I hesitate, however, to use it for small pest control (squirrels/chipmunks/mice coming in for the winter). I’m wondering if it would be better to get the Hatsan Mod 25 in the .22 cal spring piston for a more sure/humane kill? I saw you reviewed the .177 gas piston version, but do you have a video in the archives on the .22? I definitely want a break barrel pistol for this task, so I don’t have to worry about external air. A pistol platform also makes it easier to grab and less unwieldy than pulling out a rifle when I see a chipmunk scurrying toward my soffits! I would appreciate your take on this gun vs the .22 Hatsan for this task. Thanks again!
I would not entertain the newer Mod 25. They are absolute junk. The entire breach and barrel shroud is made of plastic. Also the housing on the trigger assembly is made of plastic. I purchased a new Mod 25 it lasted for 3 shots and the sear failed to engage. Extremely poor craftsmanship. I appreciate you tuning in 👍🏻 😉
Bought this pistol after your recommendation. Trigger was awful like you said. I did take it apart a polished a few of the surfaces. Also replaced trigger adjustment screw with a longer one. Made the trigger Smoother but still slightly heavy, any other ideas to take a pound or two out of it.
@@AirgunDetectives I followed your video instructions and removed the spring. The gun's trigger is now WAY better than before, it completely transformed the gun. Took me 10mins. Thank you!
Really good explanation, it's a pity that this pistol is Impossible to find out here in Brazil, and to make importation will be very expensive I'm looking for a pistol like that but here is Impossible.
Hi ....Crosman 1377 vs umarex strike point .177 vs Benjamin trail Mark 2 air pistol 🔫 Which best for small game & bird's pigeons hunting ? Please reply.... I want best Air pistol for hunting...
My biggest negative would be it's a single shot. If they could put one out with a mag it would be a decent sidearm. For me personally, a sidearm needs to be a repeater.
@@Bluemoon30-06 I have co2 pellet pistols. All have mags. I don't waste money on anything that only fires BBs. Marines don't do single shot sidearms period. I have my single shot rifles and rifles with mags. I also have a rifle that will drop a moose at 100 yards.
Is there a way that you could adjust the firing speed to where it won't even shoot through a cardboard box? I have one and all of a sudden it stop shooting hard, it still sounds the same and cocks the same .
I literally just droo a blue jay, (bird) out of a dead tree after zeroing g it in ...the bord was about 25ft away and 45 ft on too of a dead pine tree. .surprisingly yes, this can put down from sparrows-pigeons!!!
I would like to see accuracy test from free hand. It's a pistol so main purpose of that it should be shooting off hand not bench rested. Very heavy trigger disqualifies this thing as a accurate pisol IMHO. I had a first generation and and it was a disaster as a pistol so i swapped to beeman p. 17 with longer barrel.
Agree , I hated these break barrel trigger pound , the foot pound is a bit lower then I would like , for pest like mice it would be ok , but squirrels might be pushing it . Otherwise targets plinking is ideal , “if” you can get that trigger down to 2-3 pound
@Reel Fishing Agreed this pistol needs a lighter trigger. But to avoid lawsuits it forces American businesses to make these decisions for "safety". I think a 10 FPE version with a carbine stock option would be great for ratting?
I am going to work on the trigger. I did discover if you back off the trigger screw it lightens up the first stage and makes it manageable. Thanks for watching 👍
I figured out the trigger today. Mine now breaks at 3lbs. It has a nice and light first stage then goes up against a nice 3 lbs. wall. I also polished all the contact points on the components, that's much more involved. It's not overly complicated but you definitely need some mechanical abilities. There are 3 total springs in the trigger assembly, the trick is removing the front trigger spring. Not to be confused with the separate safety spring. I may put a video together and show the process.
I wonder, when IS Benjamin go8ing to do something with those triggers! My 'Trail' has a trigger that's a stiff as if it were mounted in asphalt. I like how this Mark II shoots, I am impressed with this!
Reg, I figured out the trigger today. Mine now breaks at 3lbs. It has a nice and light first stage then goes up against a nice 3 lbs. wall. I also polished all the contact points on the components, that's much more involved. It's not overly complicated but you definitely need some mechanical abilities. There are 3 total springs in the trigger assembly, the trick is removing the front trigger spring. I may put a video together and show the process.
@@AirgunDetectives An instructional video on this modification would be very helpful. I, for one, would really like to see this. Thanks for your efforts in this JC.
@Renegadebroadcasting Renegadebroadcasting No kidding,.. I could care less how a review is paid for, it's helpful ( if done well, as is the case with this channel ) Where else are we to 'learn' something about a product if it's not 'advertised'. ( this is not a question )
Possibly...I will be featuring some products from a small brand new company next month. He makes many airgun accessories. We may have to see if he can develop something for this gun👍
Just purchased one per your review. Mine seems to suffer from serious barrel droop. The rear sight is cranked up pretty high in the back. When I mounted a read dot, I ran out of adjustment. I know utg sells a droop rail, but from other images to include yours, it doesn't seem to have as much droop issue. Other than that it shoots well. Any suggestions?
Nope shoots well nuff . I need more fpe. I bought the b17 after your review, now all though it was a grreat review for the work popping critters, , that guns just not going to do it. Cheers.
Thank you for the video. I am on my 3rd pistol (Benjamin Trail NP Mark II) I believe that I just got bad luck with this one. Crosman just sent me the replacement Pistol. I just tested it yesterday and today and the average FPS that I am getting with Crosman Premier HP 7.4 Grain Pellets is 419 FPS. With H&N Field Target Trophy Green 5.56 Grain I am getting an average of 492.4 FPS. I like this gun and I want to make it work the way that it was intended. I believe that I have a a defective piston seal. Could you tell me where to get a good performing replacement seals for this pistol?
Tengo una pistola igual pero al momento de disparar no sale la bala pero suena como si la disparará pero menos potente y después de varios intentos sale la bala pero sin potencia no atraviesa ni un vaso !!!!!!! AYÚDEME POR FAVOR!!!!!!!!!
Please inform me of best pellets for accuracy? Asking because I recently purchased this rifle days ago and attempted to sight it in, using scope from the Gamo swarm maaxim...using crosman 7.9gr. Hollow points....The pellets went everywhere...wasted almost entire can smhhh lol. So in vid I see the accuracy!
@@AirgunDetectives When you do that, tho, i don't know you want to post that on youtube, I would certainly be interested in how you accomplished that... I'm shooting at 30 yards at my back yard range, so I don't expect hole in hole, but even with this stiff trigger, I can hit hanging targets fairly consistently... but a lighter trigger would aid that for me immensely... I try to video some of this today if can with this gun... Thank you!
Each pistol may handle pellets differently. I would start by testing the inexpensive Crosman Premier Hollow points. 7.9 gr. Accuracy is the key. You want a pellet in-between 7.0 to a mid 8 gr. Crows are actually pretty smart. You can even shoot around them and they'll leave. Do that for a few days and they won't come black. Happy Shooting 👍
Rail is useless without an offset adapter. Blocks cocking when accessories are mounted directly. Gun is heavy and heavy duty. Granted, trigger pull is about a week long, but, is manageable with practice. Cocking aid is mandatory in my world. Have read reviews that it affects point of impact, doesn't seem to on either one of mine. I bolted mine to the gun, doesn't come loose, doesn't get lost, aggressive cocking has no affect. Interesting chrony results. Overall, great review. Now, fabricate a solid carbine stock adapter, and you'll be a hero!
I love the idea of a carbine stock! The other thing is why mess with that cocking sleeve. They could have just molded it with a longer muzzle brake from the factory. Maybe we'll see a Mark III version?
@@AirgunDetectives seriously my friend, you are a genius! Molding the cock-assist into the main body is brilliant! Would solve many issues... if you have an email, I'll send picks of my current incarnation of a stock adapter for the mark II. It functions well, looks ok, currently being updated in my mind as we speak .......
@@olroymtbetc.6117 I figured out the trigger today. Mine now breaks at 3lbs. It has a nice and light first stage then goes up against a nice 3 lbs. wall. I also polished all the contact points on the components, that's much more involved. It's not overly complicated but you definitely need some mechanical abilities. There are 3 total springs in the trigger assembly, the trick is removing the front trigger spring. Not to be confused with the separate safety spring. I may put a video together and show the process. here is my email info@airgundetectives.com
@@AirgunDetectives I am somewhat familiar with this trigger assembly as well. Always take pictures before disassembly. Springs are annoying to reassemble. All components were rough and dry. A how to video would be a good thing. It's not overly complex, but, it isn't particularly easy either. Sounds like you smoothed it right out and made it function as it should. Pics on the way of mine.
