Better Than The Volkswagen Golf? (Peugeot 308 2023 Review)

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We drive the 2023 Peugeot 308 hatchback, which cops a significant price increase in return for a more logical interior and excellent driving dynamics.
Peugeot is not giving up on small cars in Australia. It’s bringing back its 308, now in third-generation form, with both 308 hatchback and 308 SW station wagon body styles. The main engine is a 1.2T three-cylinder but there will also be a 1.6T four-cylinder plug-in hybrid model coming in 2023.
The Peugeot 308 competes against the Volkswagen Golf, Mazda 3 and Hyundai i30, but Peugeot would also like it to be seen as a rival to the BMW 1 Series, Mercedes-Benz A-Class and Audi A3.
As always, we don’t accept advertising from car manufacturers, and we’re powered by Budget Direct - so this is an independent, honest review of the Peugeot 308.
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0:00 - What is the Peugeot 308?
1:16 - Interior & Tech
4:20 - Back Seats
5:29 - Boot Space
6:16 - Running Costs
7:12 - Driving Dynamics
13:12 - Should You Buy A 308?
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@garnray8568 Год назад

I find it crazy that so many Australians and Brits still don't get that Peugeot has really levelled up big time since 2012-2014. Now they are on same level as VW. It takes intellectual honesty to admit it. It seems that so many of you are stuck in the past. Peugeot nowadays is a mid premium car maker. About the price, those who complain need to get that ALL car manufacturers are increasing prices. Wait to see Audi or VW prices for 2023, I can assure you that you'll be crying. Peugeot offers fantastic value for money. Same quality than German cars for 10.000 or 20.000 less. Do the math. And this comment comes from a German car engineer.

@mirkozlikovski9553 Год назад

no, though I absolutely agree with what you say about Peugeot, is - seeing the material quality of VW ID.3 & Co - sadly slightly difficult to agree with. especially about the perceived quality levels... I wouldn't really agree about it, since practically all current models of ex PSA brands (including Opel) surpass what we can find in ID family (and even Golf) by "a mile"! especially by the DS, and Peugeot too.... while their reliability numbers are near one to each other for quite some time (at least a decade)! in fact ( I'm 56 years old), I owned and drove a bunch of PSA and VAG (mainstream and premium) cars, and I never considered (or experienced) Citroen and Peugeot as particularly inferior brands to VW! each of them had (and still have) its own "focus", strengths and weaknesses that consequently leveled them to the point where "personal taste and preference" basically becomes deciding factor. so, "looking down" on Peugeot as "unworthy brand" is a short sided "bar counter" logic...

@waynezheng7629 Год назад

I'm sorry but if it's VW quality and VW price, then there is almost no reason to buy the 308 over a Golf. Leaving everything else aside, the crazy depreciation alone should be enough for anyone to think twice about buying anything Stellantis.

@garnray8568 Год назад

@@waynezheng7629 what a sheep you are. The 308 is so much better than a Golf, you sheep, how can you not see it is just beyond me

@mirkozlikovski9553 Год назад

@@waynezheng7629 hm... more or less everything depreciates as a falling rock... I owned Audi A4 B7 that, when I sold it after 4 years, lost over 50% of its value (and no, low mileage didn't help) and something rather similar happened with my previous gen. P508SW.... what if the reasoning should go "if it has similar or slightly better quality, similar reliability, similar price and similar depreciation, why wouldn't you buy the one you like better?

@charlesdr1981 Год назад

Peugeot own Faurecia who make interiors for Audi and VW.

@honeyisaac Год назад

the power department is lacking for a 50k+ car.

@Valkatron Год назад

Same feeling from me. They are probably wanting people to choose the hybrid over this one.

@satanslittlehelper3 Год назад

Save up and look around for a Diahatsu Charade Turbo which could go on club plates now

@davidperry3531 Год назад

That matching green jacket is almost Olivene Green! This car has taken a while to get here but it seems it was worth it. I'm impressed by the light weight of this 308 which is a bigger car than the previous model. That interior looks gorgeous and it appears that the software is now well up to date. Apart from their sport GTI models (which now appear to be history in the petrol line) Peugeots have always been fantastic cruisers. I remember my old 504, 505 and 406 only had about 100 kw with no turbo, but lovely to drive. BTW, that blue paint job on the wagon is beautiful. Also, I believe that there is a fold down rear armrest on the hatch but not the wagon.

@Mexxx65 Год назад

Pity the PHEV is the weight of a small tank.

@qldgooner Год назад

that wagon looks beautiful 👍👍

@kylegriffiths5990 Год назад

1.2L 96kW 3cyl for $55k is a bit of joke though tbh. Nice design but.

@ahh1180 Год назад

The matching polo shirt is working nicely

@sachakoffman Год назад

This car (especially the wagon) would be unbelievable if it had just that little bit more performance (especially for its price)

@sturogers2964 Год назад

This car is a real looker. But, I have to echo the other comments 1.2L & 96kw. Yeah, nah!

@shubhamgoswami5221 Год назад

I remember in 2021 when new Tucson and sportage arrived, they used to be 58K on road for top models

@kevinlee509 Год назад

Had a chance to drive one in syd, it drives really smooth with 8 spd but bit engine noise and 1.6 hybrid only avavailable with hatch..then more expensive

@wheresmycheese8511 Год назад

Such a bizarre decision to launch a 96kw $55,000 hatchback. Who are they aiming this at. The usual Peugeot customer will struggle to get in and out. It won't suit a family due to size, and the younger buyer is not paying $55,000 for 96kw.

@jhref Год назад

How won't the wagon suit a family?

@davidperry3531 Год назад

It all comes down to power to weight, which is only 1265 kg , to give sparkling performance.

@wheresmycheese8511 Год назад

@@davidperry3531 0-100 in 10 seconds is not sparkling performance

@wheresmycheese8511 Год назад

@@jhref because the wagon market is dead and there's 100 better SUV options for $55,000

@davidperry3531 Год назад

@@wheresmycheese8511 It’s not all about the time to 100 kph (9.7) but in the general driving and how low in the revenue range does torque take effect. My Mi16 recorded 9.2 and that was considered a hot sedan in its day.

@petarmaksimovic4048 Год назад

Going back to amazing, arguably best balanced in class, driving dynamics and icockpit was a game changer with 308 T9, a line that was once broken with terribly dull 307/308. Once you try the small precise steering wheel there's no going back, any other car will feel like a bus.

@davidhamilton506 Год назад

For the price, I think it should be at least a1600cc, turbo charged engine . Fuel consumption would still be acceptable. Remember the old power to weight ratio. As an example: Back in 1974, our Ford Falcon 6 cylinder sedan, was not as economical as the the 302 V8 Windsor engine, due to the fact that it's increase in power worked less to pull the same body weight around. So the same could be said of this Peugeot. 1200 cc against a 1600cc Turbo, Granted, there would be a slight increase in overall vehicle weight due to the larger engine, but I wouldn't think that'd add up to much in much higher petrol consumption, if any. A well appointed interior, good road presence, stunning green Olivene colour. Love how it reacts in sunlight. Excellent presentation, thanks for sharing...

@hamishriddell2113 Год назад

I love it! 🤩

@bigchief2331 Год назад

I prefer the look of the T9 308 actually, much more elegant and timeless design with the beautiful diamond like DRL's, has more presence than this new one. But I do LOVE that green, WOW! Another strange omission is the lack of fold down armrest with cupholders in the rear. T9 308 had it, why not the new model!! Especially at this price!! I think its way overpriced now with this engine in it, it should be GTi performance for this money!!

@mirkozlikovski9553 Год назад

that's probably because the back rest of the wagon he was in folds in 40:20:40 segments and the central part allows you the access to the boot and transport of longer items, but is most likely too narrow to fit a decent armrest with cup holders in it...

@eponymous7910 Год назад

Mmm I do like me a sexy wagon...$50k for those outputs is pretty steep though and I kinda worry about the post-purchase support. Bloody shame there's no gti in wagon guise

@mainiotaainetta Месяц назад

I don't like the small streeringwheel on my lap set up but other wise quite nice.

@Luckie666 Год назад

I had a test drive of the 308 GT it’s beautiful inside and out. But the engine just lacks. When pulling away from stand still there is a delay. So forget trying to get out into a small gap on a busy road.

@arad907 Год назад

I love the design 😊, moreover, love the design of the new Prius😅. I just wish brands such as Toyota design a funky retro quirky small car like Fiat 500 or Mini.

@alexanderswagin9618 Год назад

By the way, a torsion beam rear suspension has far less problems and long term durability than any multi link suspension. Mazda tunes the torsion beam in MX-30 and Mazda 3 where there’s no noticeable difference from personal experience.

@richieduck67 Год назад

Have all the ex Honda Australia staff gone to Peugeot I'm sorry 1.2 litre for that price is a joke

@unclebanga5976 Год назад

Pretty sure all the German companies have engines from 1 to 1.4 litres with very similar outputs and for much more Money. So whats ya point? How about driving the thing rather than looking at the spec sheet for a change. Just a suggestion.

@renardargent6487 Год назад

@@unclebanga5976 Exactly what my petrol-headed son keeps saying to me :/

@kakoiigaijin Год назад

Hi Tom, is the 360 camera live or 'pre-recorded' like the 508?

@chasingcars Год назад

It’s actually live this time around.

@kakoiigaijin Год назад

@@chasingcars Thanks and thanks for the reply.

@narvuntien Год назад

At this price, I don't think I can over look the Full electric Rear wheel drive MG M4, yeah its Chinese but its got impressive UK reviews. When the Electric version of the 308 comes it will probably be competing with the Cupra Born as well.

@maxnewts Год назад

I really like this. Both the moustache and the car.

@chasingcars Год назад

Thank you!

@club1fan552 Год назад

Tom it's a shame you didn't review the rear seat of the hatch, which would have less space. Who buys wagons these days anyway? You correctly mention the low weight however recently I drove a 2015 308 Access (base model) manual which weighed around 168 kgs LESS than yours with the SAME mechanicals. Was the most impressive car I have ever driven and it was worth about 20% of the cost of the new model you reviewed. I'm not sure this car has really progressed much and I think the older one looked better.

@Ben-bs4od Год назад

Wish we had this in the States, either a hybrid or a high horsepower model. We don't get hatchbacks or wagons in the USA which sucks. Only gas guzzling SUVS. Maybe things will change when inflation hits 20%. (IT alteady has)

@sheyone9075 Год назад

Nice car and nice country side. Where is that place?

@chasingcars Год назад

South coast of NSW.

@rickypaul6209 2 месяца назад

It looks beautiful ❤️

@deanmcgrath2587 Год назад

Since when has Ned Flanders been reviewing for Chasing Cars?

@chasingcars Год назад

Since 2012

@SethPinnock Год назад

I'm skeptical about manufacturers calling cars premium I suspect they have material left over from higher trim levels that they are no incorporating in their regular cars charging us extra for what didn't cost them any extra to begin with

@Gabrieltamdesign Год назад

The local distributor can't catch a break, can they? They waited for over a decade to finally have some attractive products only to price themselves out of the market for both the 2008 and now the 308. It certainly doesn't help that the Japanese Yen and Korean Won are both so weak at the moment, making logical mass-premium competitors like Mazda thousands less.

@rjbiker66 Год назад

I wonder why they didn't use the 114kw/240nm version of the 1.2l turbo that the 2008GT uses

@mirkozlikovski9553 Год назад

because they are pulling this engine version out of production.... not really sure why

@renardargent6487 Год назад

@@mirkozlikovski9553 Whilst they're at it, pull that model off the shelf & re-design that awful, bulbous front end into a design that doesn't look like it's too big for the rest of the body work which in turn make the windows look smaller than they are.

@chasingcars Год назад

That would be sweeter, wouldn't it.

@SouthAuckMarine Год назад

Is that the hired help at 13:58?

@murkeyterky6852 Год назад

Looks great inside and out, but it does sound a little underdone power wise. A shame you didn't do 0 -100 and 80 - 100.

@gregj7916 Год назад

Strange review, mainly testing the hatch but using the wagon to highlight rear seat space, some other reviews highlighted noisey rear suspension when running 18” wheels. Unsure where Peugeot in oz are heading, is the operation profitable? Do they honour warranties? Autorai international have a good 7 minute review on differences between base and hi-spec models in Europe, i guess someone will review the aussie base model sometime soon…

@chasingcars Год назад

“Do they honour warranties” - warranties are legally binding and backed by Australian consumer protection legislation. Brands don’t have a choice in this matter.

@chasingcars Год назад

Sorry you found my work strange, Greg.

@jhref Год назад

Wish I had the money for the wagon

@richieduck67 Год назад

55k used to get you a decent Golf GTi or base model Golf R

@chasingcars Год назад

Used to!

@wheresmycheese8511 Год назад

Still gets an I30N premium

@chasingcars Год назад

i30 N Line remains an awesome deal. Mazda 3 G25 is too

@BennnWJK Год назад

I tried a Peugeot a while back and just couldn’t work with that steering wheel. No matter how I adjusted my seating position, it always obscured the instrument cluster. So typically French…

@chasingcars Год назад

Fair enough. Works for me, though.

@Luckie666 Год назад

I read about all of that. But when I tried I could easily see the instruments over the steering wheel.

@harlandgiles8612 Год назад

Great looking car, fuel economy.Sure, it hasn't got stacks of power, less is more sometimes

@cloudsu007 Год назад

I owned 207CC, 308 and 407, also drove a 408 oversea. I do like the driving dynamic although sometimes would think if it could be a bit softer. The interior and equipments are alway great for the money but the reliability of the engine, especially after ages, that can drive you nuts. After years maintaining and replacing parts, I learned quite a lot on how to fix a Peugeot via forums all over the world and do seeing they refining the design of parts when buying parts. I believe those engines should be pretty reliable now but I have already losing my trust in it and the price of spare parts could easily match the premium euro cars all even exceeded. The lack of hot hatch version make me feel like the brand has lost its sporty heritage. For this price, there are too much choices and if premium is the way to go, the branding is not there yet. Are they really believe that the name of Peugeot worth extra 10K?

@chasingcars Год назад

Malaise era Peugeot product isn’t much to write home about. EMP2 changed a lot.

@cloudsu007 Год назад

@@chasingcars I think they should name their engine in the way VW dose to show ppl the upgrade they have done instead of repeating "1.2T puretech". (I know they got code names but no one really cares about that)

@orfeas92 6 месяцев назад

The only real downside of this car is the wet timing belt system with all the known issues.

@ozozi49 7 месяцев назад

I love the 308.....super hi tec....hi quality....asthetic....different....i have a golf 7....definitely better then golf 8 Nice r3eviewby the way..... And please....PEUGEOT don't do same crap loke Toyotas.....no hybrid craps... 96kws are enough people. My Golf 7 hs 92 kws.....thats more than enough....i can not take the most of it......there is coppas and camaras everywhere!!,!

@richieduck67 Год назад

What are they smoking - can I have some? 😲

@Staff7A Год назад

It’s gorgeous. But that steering wheel is a no from me.

@mikfax Год назад

For that price it needs to be at least a PHEV

@wheresmycheese8511 Год назад

The phev will be $70,000

@renardargent6487 Год назад

Hope I'm wrong but, with Pug France, Oz & Ateco believing it's a "premium" brand, IMO $70++ will be nearer the mark :( @@wheresmycheese8511

@alexanderswagin9618 Год назад

Hi all, in regard to the comment about the interior not working for anybody, having driven the last generation 308, just drop the steering wheel to it’s lowest position and adjust from there. I am 187 cm(6’2”) and the instruments are clearly visible. As for the statement there are cheaper competitors, true but not better. Nothing from China is worth buying. What save in the purchase price will come back to haunt you in the long term re. reliability after warranty, weird interiors which fall apart and corrosion.LDV, Kia/Hyundai, GWM all poorly assembled with not a hint of style. Prices have risen so it’s a fact of life.

@cyrilmatthew2995 Год назад

I might get a used BMW 530 d manual

@chasingcars Год назад

Sure, why not?

@Mexxx65 Год назад

Kiama/Gerringong gods country... :) Again, being a peugeotphile, any comment I leave here, will most probably be tainted....green..... I don't think the 308 was/will ever be a big seller in AU, seems to be in the middle of nowhere market in AU with far too much better competition..cheaper. And for all its great exterior looks, interior is just as bad as the previous 308. I am sure the 308 interiors works for no aussies. And just like Mazda is doing, flogging off an antiquated torsion beam rear axle. Not a decent multi-link rear like some of its competitors. Tom didn't Peugeot give the keys of the SW "Estate" Wagon to any journalist at the launch? Possibly a 308 Estate full EV or PHEV, might have some interest here. We shudda got the new 208. Great market segment for Peugeot to be in here in AU. And it wudda sold like hot-cakes here.

@ashtonkee5868 Год назад

$55k for a miserable 96kW??? Peugeot is nuts.

@Redbull0000 Год назад

Peugeot 🥰

@EnShinNoi Год назад

I hate Peugeot's DRLs. They're enough to have me disregard their entire lineup. I find them so distracting. I don't mind those colours though. Peugeot call the wagon colour, Avatar Blue, but it looks green in every single shot.

@BennnWJK Год назад

Agreed. The DRLs are insanely overrated.

@planbparadise2046 Год назад

Anything is better than a VW product

@airlinesecrets Год назад

The equivalent of a Vauxhall Astra or Toyota Corolla. Actually a nice car if you live in France. Not so nice in Australia where the dealer network is absolutely POOR if you have an issue and God help if you need a spare part. When in Paris do as the French. Just not applicable in Australia or USA. I would really take the pragmatic alternative from Korea or Japan.

@bigchief2331 Год назад

I own a Peugeot in Australia and there is no issue at all getting parts, and plenty of independent mechanics around. I had a fan controller fail in my car, got it diagnosed at the local indy, part delivered and fixed the same day. There's also a very good dealer in Sydney called Continental who have knowledgeable staff at the parts counter and keep good stock. I do agree experience at the dealers can vary substantially but that goes for all cars, I prefer dealing with independent workshops as they are usually cheaper and more knowledgable.

@airlinesecrets Год назад

@@bigchief2331 That would be fine with an older Peugeot. The most modern examples need dedicated diagnostic equipment

@bigchief2331 Год назад

@@airlinesecrets mine is a T9 308 so it’s not old. The diagnostic equipment and software is available to anyone, they use the same system that Peugeot dealers use.

@malcolmscott4150 Год назад

Lovely looking car and I’m sure 1.6T out of 408 would be nice however a green estate/wagon 1.2T just perfect 👌

@beniciodeltoro4956 Год назад

Good luck getting in and out with that low steering wheel. Also good luck with french reliability.

@TheRobopw Год назад

We'll start from the start 😂

@topher.m Год назад

$50k and the rear view camera looks like it’s from a Nokia 6500

@chasingcars Год назад

Huh. I thought the new 360 cam was half decent.

@wheresmycheese8511 Год назад

New camera looks fantastic

@corporatepsychobabble188 Год назад

Underwhelming for the asking prices. Also, being a Euro it will have soft brakes meaning 4 new rotors and pads at around 40,000 kms @ $1,700 or so. No thanks

@peterries3340 Год назад

My 308 is on 160,000 km and rear brakes untouched, front pads and rotors changed at 120,000 and cost around $700.

@devilambrose Год назад

How the hack is 1258KG consider light XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD???????????

@chasingcars Год назад

It’s extremely light for a new car in 2022.

@georgealex19 Год назад

“Leather feels like the one in a vehicle double the price” erm…. Like an S class or what? Bentley level peugeot already….

@chasingcars Год назад

An S-class isn’t $100K. Try a Genesis.

@satanslittlehelper3 Год назад

I don't think I will trade in my 100Kw, 400Nm Turbo-Diesel 307 Wagon for an overpriced Daihatsu Charade

@chasingcars Год назад

Unusual sentiment coming from a Peugeot person. Usually your kind understands these cars better than most.

@georgealex19 Год назад

Insane…. Peugeot is as premium as day is night….

@garnray8568 Год назад

Ridiculous comment. I am German, been working in the car industry for 23 years , mainly for VW group, as an engineer, I think i am qualified enough to tell that Peugeot now is considered as mid premium in continental Europe, and moving fast to become an upmarket brand. They have dramatically levelled up since 2012-2014. Design is just absolutely stunning, interior very stylish and they offer better value for money than anything the German car makers do nowadays. It's time to understand that people change, companies and brands change as well and it's incredibly unfair to keep judging Peugeots based on what they were in the 90's, since they have improved so much. Time to stop living in the past. Come to Germany, Austria or Switzerland and you'll see Peugeots everywhere.

@mirkozlikovski9553 Год назад

true, Peugeot is not (yet) premium for us here in europe too....but it's not that far off and its models in their top trims sure feel like it is (I should know since I have last gen 508, and I had a couple of A4 before it).... but the funny thing is that at things you "down under" consider premium, we here wouldn't give a second look! so, judging things by "the taste or preference" isn't really a measure of quality....

@georgealex19 Год назад

@@garnray8568 I also worked in the automotive industry, but not for 23 years (kudos to you), I’ve also been to Germany with work to fix a bunch of showstoppers. But I have also been in the market and bought new cars and you are really wrong when saying Peugeot offers better value for money than any German car, considering current prices. One simple example: the audi a4. You can get, for what Peugeot is asking, a very decent Audi A4. I am saying this because Audi offers discount packages and slashes the price, while Peugeot gives you a couple of grands discount and that’s that. So sorry, but Peugeot is not worth it. And if you’re so familiar with Peugeot, how come you don’t recommend Citroen or DS as premium cars since they’re the more upmarket brands in PSA? Citroen’s 30% more expensive in terms of parts and service, yet you tell me that a 308 is worth €50k? Really? Then how much should DS be worth? Which actually have outstanding styling and interior materials? €70k? You know what, at the end of the day it’s your right to do it so please, as a German, go ahead and buy the 308 at €50k while I as a foreigner will buy your Audi A4 fully loaded for the same amount 👍

@georgealex19 Год назад

@@mirkozlikovski9553 I agree and the 508 indeed has been a more upmarket model. But it’s miles apart from the 308…. And if you look at the used market, the 508 loses most of it’s value, you can pay €35-40k new and end up selling used for €8-12k…. While an equivalent A4 will go for €18-22k…. Great for the used buyer, I guess.

@tehclam Год назад

I’m glad consumers have a decent choice of cars, but I would honestly rather just play it safe and buy a Cerato, i30, or even an Impreza.

@bigchief2331 Год назад

What is there to play safe about?? Peugeot's are very reliable cars these day, and significantly nicer than any Korean alternative or the dated Subarus with thirsty underpowered engines and noisy CVT's

@renardargent6487 Год назад

@@bigchief2331 Agree. "noisy" = droning CVT

@vs6300 Год назад

@@renardargent6487 and frail

@dandandan3515 Год назад

I rather just get i30 N

@bigchief2331 Год назад

Peugeot make much nicer cars than Hyundai ever has or will

@bearhood2004 Год назад

HAHAHAHA!! 96KW!! ZOOM ZOOM!

@mirkozlikovski9553 Год назад

why wouldn't 130 hp be enough for a car that weighs 1200+ kg?

@bearhood2004 Год назад

@@mirkozlikovski9553 if u used that kind of logic, why human build turbo charged engine in the first place? why build engines with much higher horsepower when 'just enough' engine will do?

@mirkozlikovski9553 Год назад

@@bearhood2004 why? because we can! and because on some odd occasions they serve the purpose, because they really are needed..... but... what does all this have to do with the fact that 130 hp is simply enough for the normal, every day use of the car by the average user/owner?! I agree it's not enough to chase Nurburgring records, but that's hardly this car's purpose...

@bearhood2004 Год назад

@@mirkozlikovski9553 bla bla bla....go on then buy the car $50+ with 96kw engine.

@mirkozlikovski9553 Год назад

@@bearhood2004 no, thanks... I'm quite happy with my 2.0 l, 163 hp diesel 508 SW II... 😜 (but just to put into perspective.... it weighs almost 1.6 T and have rather similar power to weight ratio as this 130 hp 408)