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Today we elucidate the deeds of the oldest 'living' Astartes entombed within the chassis of a Dreadnought: Bjorn the Fell Handed.
Most trusted council of his Primarch Leman Russ, Bjorn would defend the honour of his legion for 10,000 years whilst enduring it's many struggles and sacrificing much of himself to protect his legion.
Now trapped within his metal sarcophagus, Bjorn stubbornly rejects the embrace of death and continues his stoic burden to protect his Chapter.
00:00 Introduction
01:11 Bear of Fenris
04:03 Protege of Russ
05:52 Burden of Leadership
07:45 Venerable Ancient
09:24 Conclusion
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@davebowman9000 2 года назад

When the words "I was there. I was there when Horus slew The Emperor" actually apply to you

@dillon1320 2 года назад

Bjorn like Dante are some of if not the only Astartes who would not have to kneel before a Primarch. Their deeds and victories would rival that of what the Primarchs did during the Great Crusade. I can't wait for a reunion between Bjorn and Russ.

@cloroxusthestainlessone4324 2 года назад

All I can imagine is a punch up then a piss up

@kynanwilliams8012 2 года назад

Pretty Sure it will be Bjorn sacrificing himself to ensure Russ is rescued or survives or found or something like that, it will either be a brief goodbye or Russ will not even get to talk to him before Bjorn's Sarcophagus finally shuts down

@Baronstone 2 года назад

This is the way I see it playing out. Bjorn sacrifices himself to save Russ from an assassination attempt. He dies, but the emperor seeing all that he does, chooses to resurrect Bjorn and make him one of his Paladins (aka a saint)

@michaelmastriano7566 2 года назад

Im sure he'll hear Russ's howl and awaken from slumber!

@peiershen8221 2 года назад

Nah, they just pass their Primarch a mug of ale. A lot more useful than kneeling.

@yoyohaloreach 2 года назад

I enjoy the first quote, it shows that Bjorn just wants to tell his stories. Not be revered for them.

@Hiihtopipa Год назад

Well rever a tiny bit at the same time 😁

@PodMonkeyCWC 2 года назад

My favorite story of Bjorn is the one where he was "gifted" to the Blood Ravens.

@psychedashell 2 года назад

Was that the one where he agrees to serve on the terms that he gets woken for war every hundred years rather than story-time?

@vake1234 2 года назад

it was for Ragnar, not Bjorn

@PodMonkeyCWC 2 года назад

@@psychedashell yup

@psychedashell 2 года назад

@@vake1234 Sometimes I wish the Wolves would gift Ragnar to the Blood Angels. One of the things I love about the Space Wolves is that a fair few of the other loyalist chapters wonder why the hell they don't declare the Space Wolves heretics considering how many other loyalist factions they're enemies with - But Ragnar...bloody goodie two-shoes Ragnar is making buddy-buddy with all of them, it's making the Wolves lose something that makes them epic.

@Taiko206 Год назад

By Russ's ass, it's always good to hear my saga being retold, and especially in this fine way. I owe the Remembrancer a drink for that.

@konradcurze4541 Год назад

My brother's lapdog just keeps wagging his tail

@Robert_Douglass Год назад

Who invited the Night Haunter to the chat? Just wait till Lion El'Johnson hears of this, I hear he just woke up from his nap. He ain't gonna be happy.

@konradcurze4541 Год назад

@@Robert_Douglass Jonson can, and you can quote me, "Give seige weapons to Perty and pretend he's a great guy, but deep down he's just butthurt that I whooped him all through the Thramas sector"

@Robert_Douglass Год назад

@@konradcurze4541 Come on, man, you SUPPOSED to be BRUTHAS!!

@amager Год назад

My second son is named Bjørn

@hassanafrozeahmad6053 2 года назад

Prosperan sorcere: behold, the might of my warp touched powers! None may stand before me. Bjorn the Fell Handed: REEEEE

@FrostWolfPack 2 года назад

Or more like ''So come at me boy and prove it you sorcereous welp!''

@esukgfjyijlgul5335 Год назад

then the prosperine sorcerer deletes him from existence

@marauder7209 2 года назад

I love several things about Bjørn His disdain for the reverence given to him, (Oh for, not you as well!) In his own eyes he is a Lone Wolf, one who lost his pack. How much he felt sorry for The Dreadnoughts of the Legion, and now being one himself. How he won a fight based on a Tolkien-Esque grammatical loophole (No man can kill me/I am Bjørn, not Bear!)

@glandhound 2 года назад

Wasn't really a loophole. His name wasn't 'Bear' so that word had no power over him. ...also grammar is more about syntax and morphology of language rather than semantics.

@marauder7209 2 года назад

You missed the joke, didn't you?

@MrGravylegs 2 месяца назад

Everytime I see a pic of the Emperor on the throne I’m always asking.. “Wasn’t his arm ripped off?” Because he’s always got both of them there.. Love Bjorn!! Such a great character in this setting!! Great work, as always!!

@Soulessdeeds 2 года назад

It would be insane if the Emperor of Mankind returned as a actual god. And then gave Bjorn a new body. Releasing him upon the Galaxy fully again.

@danielboatright8887 2 года назад

I do believe the inquesition will collectively shit itself when that happens.

@saintricardo8746 Год назад

@@danielboatright8887 I do believe Big E will fucking annihilate the entire ecclesiarchy when he comes back

@LARGO125 Год назад

@@saintricardo8746 well, if I was an ecclesiarch or an inquisitor, I'd be too busy right now worrying about the big blond boy who just woke up from his cat nap. I think ol' Rowboat Girlyman is gonna have some very quick 'splainin to do. The Lion is probably still annoyed about his sword.

@ElJorro 53 минуты назад

Bjorn is one of my favorite characters. And that quote you use in the beginning is one of my favorite scenes in the Black Library.

@BarelyDecentProduction 2 года назад

every single space marine within a dreadnought: "LET ME DIE DAMN YOU!"

@Wardads1 2 года назад

I have the original metal Bjorn dreadnought, I dropped the weighty bugger on my foot and lost 2 toenails .

@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 2 года назад

This is something truly great in only a few of the Primarchs that set them above the others: Where Horus would form a councel to stroke their egoes and let them handle issues that were below his level anyway, some few, like Leman Russ, Jaghatai Khan, and perhaps Guilliman, would seek out others for actual desire for knowledge and differing view despite their own superior capabilities.

@glandhound 2 года назад

Gulliman was a beast in accounting.

@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 2 года назад

@@glandhound Amateurs study tactics, professionals study logistics. ;-p

@dukedevlan5457 Год назад

Alpharius also seemed to have council with his sons as well I believe

@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 Год назад

@@dukedevlan5457 "Seemed" is the key word here. He could as well have been misleading them, or making others think he would ask councel, or making them believe they had something to say when he made them think his ideas were their own. And you dont know if it was even Alpharius. Trust me, I know. I am Alpharius. 😛

@tardigrade8019 Год назад

@@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 I can confirm he is Alpharius, because I am Alpharius

@steveboggs9025 2 года назад

That was awesome. Killed it again brother.....The All Father is smiling....

@organizeandrise1728 2 года назад

Whoever the battlefield photographer/painter was.. is a true hero bringing us visions of greatness!

@blutundra7313 2 года назад

I thought his hand replacement was a power claw once wielded by an another Space Wolf called Geigor Fell-Hand

@rankcolour8780 2 года назад

There is a story in which Bjorn gets his claw hand. I can't remember who it was being made for, but he essentially nicks it brand new out of the forges.

@bvdemier1 2 года назад

“Now, mighty Bjorn, we can explain,” the Captain began, but Bjorn silenced him with a shout. “SHUT UP! I’M THINKING.” This was not something they had expected. All stood worriedly as they waited for Bjorns thoughts to reach a conclusion. “…HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT WOLVES?” There was some conferral. Eventually the Brother-Captain stepped forward again and said “We… are… neutral on the subject of wolves?” “GOOD. I HATE THE FUCKING THINGS.” Bjorn leaned forward, as much as was possible for a Dreadnought to do, until he teetered precariously over the Brother-Captain and the slightest tremor from the engines of the ship risked condemning the unfortunate marine to a crushing death. He spoke. “NO WOLVES. NO QUESTIONS ABOUT LEMAN RUSS. ABSOLUTELY NO REFERENCES TO FELL HANDS. ANYBODY WHO ASKS ME A QUESTION ABOUT THE OLD TIMES IS GOING TO BE USED AS PAINT TO HELP FIX THIS SHITTY JOB YOU’VE DONE ON ME,” Bjorn rumbled. “THOSE ARE MY TERMS. AGREE AND I’LL PRETEND NOT TO NOTICE WHAT YOU THIEVING LITTLE BASTARDS HAVE DONE. DEAL?”

@thecommentguy9380 2 года назад

after 10k years of having to wake up to tell stories to the little shits sure did its toll on Bjorn

@ironduke5058 2 года назад

Lmao what book does this take place in? What is the context because I need to know

@purplefood1 2 года назад

@@ironduke5058 This is fanfic of the Blood Ravens stealing Bjorn and him deciding to stay because he's annoyed with the space wolves

@bananapeel-cq3bh Год назад

@@purplefood1 gib the fanfic

@royalanempire2965 Год назад

@@purplefood1 Link to this story compa.

@apostoldimov9856 2 года назад

I love each Entry Master ❣️ But this was just GOD Tier , an absolute 💎

@IronPriestAjax 2 года назад

Excited to see this finally premier, can't wait to hear the final version

@captc0ck5lap60 2 года назад

I've certainly not read everything on Bjorn, so this may have happened and I'm ignorant of it. I'd love it if a young space marine saw through the bullshit, realised how tiresome pomp and ceremony must be, and asked "I have a question, can we get Brother-Bjorn a drink? He looks thirsty in there!" Something tells me that's a pup Bjorn would take a liking to.

@joshfrew3628 2 года назад

I just imagine bjørn demanding a tech marine to add mjød to his fluid pumps after the pup said that

@christopherholmes7324 2 года назад

@@joshfrew3628 I would love to see that.

@fluffywolfo3663 Год назад

@@joshfrew3628 "I DEMAND MJOD PUMPS IN MY ARMOR." "Is that wise?" "WHO HAS IT IN THEM TO TELL ME NO?"

@rip.tear. 2 года назад

Honestly gave me goosebumps, Bjorn, Kharn and Dante are my favourite characters in 40K

@jameswright4640 2 года назад

I just finished Prospero Burns yesterday! I never even suspected that Bear becomes the Bjorn the dreadnought from Hyperion later! Cool stuff. I feel like I've read a number of wh40k books but man there's so much out there. Cool video, and what a fantastic surprise the very day after I finish reading about Bear. :)

@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 2 года назад

It was kinda obvious... if you read it in swedish.

@deron2203 2 года назад

Man thank you youtube recommend! Got me to see this channel and can't wait to see your channel grow! Excellent content!

@mrw1783 2 года назад

Once again, you have made an excellent video.

@laffing_hwhitee Год назад

Excellent content!!!

@derrickmansu4319 2 года назад

You do the AllFather’s bidding gladly. Nicely done!!👍🏿

@shlomogoldstein3373 2 года назад

Whoa did I just find another awesome 40k channel!

@juangallego7197 2 года назад

That was brilliant 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@Kyser666 Год назад

What a badass space marine!

@remusventanus5127 2 года назад

For Russ for the Allfather

@brotheralaric7177 2 года назад

what's funny in this story, is that the Wolves were parts of horus plots for bringing the TS to chaos . .

@paulwilliamgoyeneche6494 2 года назад

I have stumbled upon another master of the lore, Hail to you brother!

@Wylding756 2 года назад

Subscribed! I may be a bit late, but you are awesome!

@cryptospectr 2 года назад

Great reading, nice voice for ghis, enjoyed it 😊

@Slingshot_IL 2 года назад

Fantastic! Great voice.

@jamescarter8693 2 года назад

Excellent

@81hewp 2 года назад

Til the Wolf Time!

@stringsixxx7684 7 месяцев назад

The Wolves of russ. This book is one of my top 10 of all..... if I had to pick I would pick to be a space Wolf second blood angel

@jonbauml225 2 года назад

Those opening quotes... The scene brings tears to my eyes every time

@connormcmurray1691 2 года назад

Great video, more space wolves characters please!!!

@MrLansonman 2 года назад

i hope bjorn will be around when russ returns, to finally have closure from being left behind.

@redluke8119 2 года назад

Love the content

@yellowblanka6058 2 года назад

This guy has to be a voice actor (assuming the channel owner is the one doing the narrating) if not, he should be.

@TheRemembrancer 2 года назад

You flatter me, but alas I am not a Voice Actor

@akumaking1 2 года назад

@@TheRemembrancer you should contact Bruva Alfabusa, Remilez/40K Theories, etc to provide voices for some characters

@chrismarusic4277 Год назад

Artwork is spectacular..

@akatosh2795 2 года назад

Just found this channel and started binging, it's great content. What is that ending litany chant though at the end of the videos?

@peiershen8221 2 года назад

Bjorn, " For the.... If you gonna kneel, mind as well hold my mug."

@tobiasbissinger5596 2 года назад

good luck on your path, young scald

@BarelyDecentProduction 2 года назад

You need to make one for poor Captain Uriel Ventris and his run in with the deamonculaba

@JamesLaserpimpWalsh Год назад

Yeah. That's your best one man. Epic.

@youthere7327 2 года назад

outstanding

@jef1102 2 года назад

Can you do Cato sicarius next please ?

@sirflapfla97 2 года назад

It's in the works

@sirflapfla97 2 года назад

Or at least the thumbnail is

@leonidasking7502 2 года назад

It is I, Cata Sicarius!! Honorable battle brother

@lukkaredwolf3534 2 года назад

Only if it is in Cato's TTS voice.

@Aldnon 2 года назад

@@lukkaredwolf3534 They should have done it in TTS voice just for a giggle.

@glandhound 2 года назад

In the book Scars, he is referred as a "younger voice", which makes him seem like a rookie, in M31. He's also Fenrisian as Ulvurul Heoroth (Longfang) was the last Terran within the sixth legion. Not sure if he was actually anywhere near the Emperor at any time..... then again, are lore is canon.

@synergy8879 Год назад

bjorn just wants a homie that won’t bow down but just fucks around with him

@magnetmannenbannanen 2 года назад

ooo soo cool. i hope for a game where u play as Bjørn, and lead your army against the demons.

@Leman.Russ.6thLegion 2 года назад

YAH!!!!! JAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

@mikeseymour1792 2 года назад

Great production..Bjorn the fell handed is my favorite named space marine from my favorite company under my favorite primary. I also have a question.What happened to Garvial Lokin formerly of the Luna Wolves .

@mr.raider7865 2 года назад

If I'm not mistaken, he survived the massacre and he lost his mind and wandered the planet until he was found.

@mikeseymour1792 2 года назад

@@mr.raider7865 Many thanks.

@joespinella7773 2 года назад

He became a Grey Knight.

@mikeseymour1792 2 года назад

@@joespinella7773 Then what? As far as I know his saga is unfinished?

@sajadhoxhaj6603 2 года назад

As the previous commenter said he lost his mind and was found by Malcador's agent and became a knight errant. However if I recall correctly he is sent on a mission/embarks on a personal quest of vengeance to slay horus and we don't know what has happened to him since the siege of terra novels are not yet finished

@jimwilliams1536 2 года назад

No heresy detected within this transmission - coded as approved. May his beneficent energies radiate forever and protect our subscriptions.

@jmc7034 2 года назад

Excellent ❤️❤️❤️❤️

@adrienwatson2179 2 года назад

Ive been binging your channel. You know the lore better than most. Your use of certain terms that NO ONE else uses are evident of this. Youre the first one ive seen even MENTION "Oaths of moment" "Warrior lodges" amongst many others. Looking forward to future content

@alvisecattaruzzo9863 2 года назад

Gloria Eterna to his Angels

@mykelengieza7057 Год назад

SLEPT WELL, OLD HERO, SLEEP WELL.....

@Baronstone 2 года назад

Now that, is a great voice!

@aaronford7838 Год назад

W3 need a full lore video on the space wolfs

@MrJedimedic 2 года назад

… 3:55 We all knew Wolverine’s healing factor granted him long life, but who knew??

@commissarlugh1040 2 года назад

Talos the nightmare would be sick af.

@pyraastarte9737 2 года назад

Give us Bray’arth Ashmantle/The Iron Dragon next!

@julienstam Год назад

The wolves are the best chapter by far

@interogatorasmodai Год назад

Even if i am a dark angels i will admit my respecte for bjorn for is deed

@x0lopossum Год назад

Bjorn Ironside, son of Ragnar

@aidankelly7135 2 года назад

Loved the video, what was the name of the audio at the end? I have been chasing it for a few years.

@TheRemembrancer 2 года назад

Chant - Dawn of War

@aidankelly7135 2 года назад

Thank you

@elian5798 2 года назад

Aaaah :3

@kenjones9326 2 года назад

I wonder if there is an evolution of Björn the Fell-Handed miniatures. I would enjoy painting that set. At one point in time, I had his Dreadnought painted in a customized scheme using silver and ice blue accents instead of gold and brownish accents.

@psychedashell 2 года назад

Kind of...? There's Griegor Fell-Handed who was supposed to be a 30k Bjorn model but the model was released with the Prospero Burns box set and Bjorn was well documented as being a nobody and still having two hands during that conflict so the model was renamed and dubbed the marine who owned the Fell-Handed title who died and Bjorn nabbed his Fell-Hand 'Trueclaw'. Then there's a lot of pre-official Bjorn Dreadnought models that look amazing. Then there's the official Bjorn model. Then there's some amazing Primaris Bjorn kitbashes for both PrimarisDread and PrimarisMarine Bjorn.

@kenjones9326 2 года назад

@@psychedashell Sweet!!! Thank you for the heads up on that. I'm gonna have to look into this, especially the Primaris kitbashes you speak of.

@crazkurtz 5 месяцев назад

Just like the hobbits of the Shire chapter

@gideonhorwitz9434 Год назад

I’m not a fan of the primaris. however reading in lore marines suffering grievous wounds on the brink of death able to be reborn anew by crossing the rubicon has fascinated me could such a thing be possible for astartes dreadnoughts. Could Bijorn be removed from his sarcophagus be able to stand on his own two feet feel the cold winds of Fenris for the first time in 10,000 years fight as a true space marine once again larger stronger revitalized.

@goldietheswagbear8288 9 месяцев назад

i don't think you can restore a marine inside of a dreadnought, even removing them from their sarcophagus is very risky, also theres usually not alot left of a marine inside a dreadnought going through the rubicon would not give bjorn his limbs back

@VectorGhost 2 года назад

Thing is, I'm pretty sure Bjorn is a contempter dread, idk why art work shows him as a current 40k model

@IronPriestAjax 2 года назад

Nope! The man lived to long, by the time he did fall contemptor dreadnought were already basically gone and no longer being made, instead he was put into a unique casteferrum dread that's been said to be stronger, faster, and tougher than the standard casteferrum and the only one ever made

@andrewwightman8066 Год назад

Not Al space marines have the stamina, disapline,and pure stubbornness for eternity this can't be sed for bjorn not just has he stood the test of time for some that's been a machine for longer then he stood on his own two feet in all that time he has managed to keep his humanity and his personality there is only other dreadnought u can mention in the same breath and that is Murder fang were bjorn is the enbodyement of what it was to be a space wolf murder fang is the enbodyement of shear anamlistic rage and fury wolfan in dreadnought armour I can't think of anything more terrorfieing! !

@jasonbailey1099 Год назад

Hey I just like and subscribe to this channel and was interested in watching more and I thought I would ask what the names of the books to read more about bjorn

@TheRemembrancer Год назад

Prospero Burns would be a good start 💪

@jasonbailey1099 Год назад

@@TheRemembrancer ok thanks

@vincentbernhard9285 2 года назад

nice video! Who's the black templar at 0:45 though?

@edwardbrown3721 Год назад

Sigismund

@harrisonglickman1996 Год назад

I'm 10 percent sure that Bjorn might actually be Russ in disguise.

@waywardsage 2 года назад

Which Horus Heresy books does Bjorn appear in? I misses several of these events as I was reading them. Which book did he fight the demon general?!

@akirafan28 Год назад

Checked the fandom or other wikis/encyclopedias?

@akirafan28 Год назад

I don't know, but it might be the short story 'Bjorn: Lone Wolf' from the 31st Horus Heresy book 'Legacies of betrayal' It is also in the anthology 'Space Wolves' which is probably also a good read.

@mykelengieza7057 Год назад

too bad he can't just "cross the Rubicon...."

@Justin_Anvil Год назад

I’m wondering if they can remove Bjorn’s remains and make him into a Primaris Marine? I they’ve taken a dreadnaught Candidate (who’s name I forgot) and made him into a Primaris, maybe there’s enough left to slap some extra organs in…(I’m a nube, so forgive my dumb ideas - I don’t know how everything works yet 😅)

@yopoxikeweapescai9066 Год назад

Didnt the blood angels also had an astartes that survived (in one of those battle coffins) since the age of old terra, one that speaked to dante when he assumed as the master of the blood angels?

@huntermad5668 11 месяцев назад

Bjorn is the only official known SM from that age. We saw some ancient veterans like a loyal Word Bearer... Likely the ones hidden have some problems if known.

@GaiusMarius65 2 года назад

I saw somewhere that some heretic renamed Bjorn. The Fell Handed has become “Bjorn Relentless Claw” WHAT THE EVER-LOVING HELL IS THAT? 🤦🏻

@roneon4 2 года назад

What the name of the background song?

@gjrt7573 2 года назад

Is yvraine gonna bring back Bjorn too?

@RoastPartyTime 2 года назад

👏😭

@veteran673 2 года назад

Can someone pls tell me of books where there is bjorn?

@TheRemembrancer 2 года назад

Prospero Burns would be a good start

@vake1234 2 года назад

his german name is björn Wolfsklaue (wolfsclaw)

@chucknorrisbeard4091 11 месяцев назад

Didn't Constantine Valdor cut the hand?

@redluke8119 2 года назад

Additional comment for the emperor of algorithkind

@Keklan572 2 года назад

The only non-cringe Space Wolf

@esukgfjyijlgul5335 2 года назад

No he's still cringe

@sirflapfla97 2 года назад

Ajax helped make it didn't he?

@IronPriestAjax 2 года назад

Yep I got to help with fact checking the script

@sirflapfla97 2 года назад

@@IronPriestAjax nice

@DavefromWork 2 года назад

Sterk ætt

@paulbradbury5792 2 года назад

Uhm, what?

@InternetSupervillain Год назад

hate space wolves and blood angels.

@Sabactus 2 года назад

Magnus did nothing wrong.

@FoxHound-ut1hu Год назад

this was a lie

@esukgfjyijlgul5335 Год назад

@@FoxHound-ut1hu just like the lie that Leman russ is intelligent and the space wolf's are cool and not boring lol

@FoxHound-ut1hu Год назад

@@esukgfjyijlgul5335 mmmm thousand sons tears tasty 😋

@esukgfjyijlgul5335 Год назад

@@FoxHound-ut1hu we don't shed tears we shed dust and you will choke on it all is dust.

@cassidywest5539 2 года назад

2:54 I would also seek Bjorn's counsel on the matter of erection.

@avpfreak1911 2 года назад

I hate to be that guy but the FIRST astartes ever made was a member of the dark angels (go figure) and was said to have fought in the siege of terra and was reported M.I.A so could potentially still be alive, so the idea of bjorn being the oldest marine is still up for debate although i would say he is easily in the top ten if not five.