His education is just rooted in hatred towards another race, even if the past things he said was true he talkin like every black person rn is a slave and are giving up on their community because they have feelings for someone else
“Tell me how the black community benefits from you having a white woman.” There’s a lot of issues that the black community has faced, and continues to face, that are much more important than dating outside a race. This shouldn’t even be a debate.🤷🏾
How is dating a white women helping the black community? U want to talk about self hate white media and trauma, rap music and gun violence, record labels and the judicial system sending out criminals to groom kids knowing they want be punished that bad. If u want to talk about black economy u can easily find how many black towns and area's was massacred while not getting land that was owed or reparations. I mean clearly if u can't get passed not being able to date them wtf else is there to talk about that same race doesn't stop sun down towns and the kkk and crooked police/judicial system. It's not even like we preaching some reverse kkk stuff we just saying love yourself and teach each other the importance of loving themselves which u as a person aren't obligated to follow u can do whatever u like but don't get mad when there's push back. U don't see the problem and other people do so it's just gonna be that.
I mean that isn't a good argument. You can say there will always be a more pertinent issue compared to any talking point but that doesn't negate the validity of said talking point/present matter being discussed. Homelessness crisis is huge but you can make the argument child trafficking and gun control are much more important. Does that mean you shouldn't discuss the homelessness crisis at all until child trafficking ends and gun control is fully passed? As humans we can talk about a multitude of issues with varying degrees of significance.
As a black woman my mom always told me to date whoever I want from any ethnic group…so long as they treat me well. You cut out a lot of good genuine partners if you date with racial “preferences” in mind…the black community should want healthy relationships for one another, and promoting dating within and only within promotes race over a healthy connection with someone. Go where your heart is content ❤
@@notting2640 Asian women do date Asian men though? Lol they get married to them too…and my point was who tf cares if someone dates outside their race, if they aren’t racist?
@thats4thebirds He mostly harps on black men who do it, not black women so your good. Congrats on your engagement 🍾 and also I see your a man of good taste with your severance review, gonna bookmark that vid to watch later
@@marcus4398 Really Marcus? Please, explain to me how only dating within the same race, and telling every African-American that they need to marry and have children with another of African descent, and bashing the ones that don't, isn't racist as fuck. This should be a good one.
@@NainheddoMEEK do u not understand that most got damn cultures marry within? That’s normal. It’s especially important for black ppl in America because we have to rebuild our foundation of family and generational wealth. Because of how far down our conditions are. So when a black man or woman has wealth it is important to our ppl and culture to keep that wealth so we can have something for ourselves just like everyone else does
That by itself is completely understandable. If a black man and Black woman love each other and want to build something together that is well within their right to do so, But what does that have to do with Black men who have white women as spouses? Why are they being dragged in the mud for simply loving each other? If a black man and a white woman come together, start a family, build something for that family, and give back to their community, that is generational wealth If a Black man and an Asian woman come together, start a family, build something for that family, then spread that wealth to their community, that is generational wealth. Fucking someone who looks just like you and getting some money together is not the thing that will uplift the black people. Beyonce and Jay-Z are doing that, and Will and Jada are doing that. The one and only thing that will uplift the black community is if we stop dividing ourselves over arbitrary differences like who we choose to love and what they look like, and start giving back to our communities, teach our children their worth and how to build for themselves, and how to lead the way. We don't need to huddle together like rats and run back to Africa to do that, we can do it here, and Now. Love and salutations, my nigga. @@marcus4398
I date interracially but wanting to date within your own race is in no way racist. In fact, MOST people date within their on race. Black pride isn’t racist due to the historical context of black people being seen as inferior. (And alot of ppl still see us as inferior) it’s about being proud of being black DESPITE other peoples negative feelings of our blackness. I’m not sure what race you are but if you want to have pride in your race or culture, I promise you know one is going to “cancel” you. I swear anything that promotes blackness is automatically “racist” to people like you
I'm in an interracial marriage. I don't elevate my wife for her skin color but because she's my wife and the mother of my children. I don't hate my own but I do love my family. People need to live their lives the best that they can and stop letting folks tell them what's good for them because they don't matter. Live and love who you want black, white, or whatever.
The great Bob Marley is a result of an interracial relationship (white dad/black mum) Can anyone honestly state that Bob Marley is not pro black? Who has highlighted struggle, spirituality and upliftment in the Black community, more than him?
It would have been so easy to dismantle this man's argument but the other guy in the room just couldn't think of the right direction to take in the moment. Just start with, "Why can't people just love who they want to" Imagine being so twisted into thinking you're in the right for being against mixed race couples? Imagine seriously telling a black man he's not black over preconceived notions about their person?
This man has a PHD and has basically devoted his entire life to this topic. It might not be as easy to argue as you think it would be. Especially in a room full of people with the cameras rolling
He could’ve easily told Umar that being with a Black Woman doesn’t guarantee a benefit to a community. It’s all about how that Black man thinks when it comes to community. That’s the argument.
I wish Dr. Umar would stop talking about “bunny hopping” and race mixing, it’s so obvious that he does it to get attention and it works everytime, Umar has some really good and thought provoking takes on racism when he’s not trying to be a meme and I wish he was known for that instead of “funny anti race mixing guy”
@@layton6202 It's just corny hearing him talk about these terms. He does it because he knows it gets the attention he needs. Because that is the only thing the black media only focuses on no matter how much we already spoke about moving onto other topics.
To me, the concept of having a racially exclusive love life out some weird sense of loyalty is idiotic. If you're attracted to someone, and you click with each other, who cares what race or ethnic group they are? In the 21st century, why should we deliberately limit our dating pool because of what happened decades or even centuries ago?
My parents never cared if we dated a black person, it’s never even been a conversation, but we live in Europe, I understand it’s more of a touchy subject in the States. The only reason I understood why ‘pro black’ people were anti IR marriage is because if you want to build collective ‘black wealth’ as a community you should keep your resources _within_ your community. But I don’t think many Black people have a collectivist mindset like that, they’re gonna do what makes them happy, not what best for “the community”.
That perspective is still flawed though cause most black couples, let alone most people, won't develop that wealth because of self-inflicted stuff, but more importantly because how the economy works.
"But we lived in Europe" Let's not say racism is gone from Europe when the concept was created there and when the national soccer team loses, you know what happens 😂
@@layton6202 Justify what? If you’re referring to my or anyones dating preferences I’m grown & don’t have to explain myself. Would you be ok with a vegan yelling at you for eating meat?
I’m a 1st generation American with immigrant parents and the self-patronizing community thing is real crazy. I’m with a white woman, have been with same one for 10 years now, and my parents hated it at first, mostly for racist reasons but also due to the racism they’ve experienced. My parents are cool now, but the community and culture are slowly growing to the times. It is safe to say the culture is “dying” in terms of children growing up not learning the language or culture. I can see why people be acting that way.
I’m at a point where I can care less about being pro black and just date whoever I date, I despise racism and whoever my lover happens to be, black, white, latina, Asian etc etc don’t matter. Love is Love No matter the color. It’s 2024, life’s too short to worry about what society thinks about who we date based on color.
50 percent of all interracial marriages are between white men and Asian. 65 percent of white men have preference for Asian women. The age of mono racial relationships are coming to an end.
1. Typically, the more successful blacks are more likely to date out than the less successful blacks. 2. Pro-blacks like Dr. Umar feel that the black community is entitled to the wealth created by successful blacks for some reason. 3. Pro-blacks like Umar feel more comfortable policing who black men date since it’s a “safe” topic. If pro-blacks like Umar criticized black culture he would get less support. If he criticized gang culture and violence, he would put his life at risk. 4. Pro-blacks like Umar gets money and support from black women and he knows a lot of them don’t like it. This is also why he rarely criticizes black women for anything, including dating other groups.
@@M87theGreatreligion. A lot of black nationalists, at least in Philly where Umar comes from, are muslim (sort of) KKK are Protestant. Both hate Jews and Asians. Both are hate groups that use terror tactics.
@@cougarbee “Black nationalist” AKA hoteps or black extremist (that’s what they are actually called) don’t really hate Asians or POC? but they do hate Jews and whites
Dr. Umar says one thing that makes sense and then says a whole bunch of nonsense which is one of the reasons why I can’t take him seriously. However he’s the first one I seen publicly challenge Black men for dating white women. And unfortunately it had to be him lol
“Challenge” black men for dating out. LMAO I wish he would come to me with that bullshi*. He’d get the same response I’d give a vegan yelling at me for eating a burger. Umar can sit his lying ass down.
Umar is a meme more than anything and this argument is annoying. My preferences is black women but it’s not some I even really follow when dating. I don’t really put towards my preferences to the forefront really. I live in NYC a very colorful city no body got time to be moving off preferences when you’re always meeting different people .If I connect with a women I find beautiful. I’m never going to reject here over her race or religion.
@@layton6202 no it’s not it’s a fact. If Umar was speaking real truth he wouldn’t be as big as he is. Instead he’s on these podcasts and shows sounding like a fool. He’s apart of the circus and that’s why he’s allowed to be on these platforms.
@@layton6202he's a deeply unserious person and a fringe provocateur. He's mostly quoted and referenced because of how ridiculous most people find the things he says. Bro is a meme
Dr. Umar has actually been to Africa. He’s basically saying what your African parents might say: that video games are a frivolous waste of time and a luxury when you live in a comfortable space like America. If you care about Africa, you would understand the necessity for Black Americans with skills to bring that talent to Africans that need it on the continent. You missed the point entirely.
@@getinloser666 So Dr.Umar is just a gringo who sees the whole continent of Africa as a bunch of useless poor people? There already talented Black people in Africa, yall got the gringo saviour complex but with a different colour skin, Africa is not in need of talent, its in need of a actual government that wont fuck their over like every single 3rd world country government does. Yall gotta realize, yall are AMERICAN, yall dont know shit about what it means to live in a 3rd world country, like the vast majority of countries in Africa are, Im Brazilian and im 100% our problem are the exact same as any african country, corrupt state, bullshit taxes, bullshit laws that make life harder and also being exploited by Europe and the US. Black americans and americans in general need to stay in America ok, unless you can bring your money to the countries in need, help the people and support the local bussiness, STAY IN AMERICA GRINGO SUPERMAN And also remember, just because you have the same skin colour as the Africans, doesnt mean you are one of them, they identify with their local culture, to them you are a American at the end of the day, you dont know their culture and language, thye are most likely going to see yall as they see the rest of the foreigners, people that come there to """help""" them just to massage their ego and feel like a good person, thats what all of yall gringos do in 3rd world countries.
@8:28 Theoretically speaking, dating solely within race (assuming you're still having healthy not forced relationships) benefits the community as whole by raising children in a home where they see people that look like each other loving, existing and building together. In modern day society, it's normalized to have single parent households. Due to alotta trauma in our bloodlines and history, we're considered to be very divided to the point where we have to come up for a term when 2 black people are in love, Black Love. Theres no such thing as white love, rican love or asian love. I believe it's because they have a much more family oriented community AND history. Obviously theres an exception to every rule, however, none of those other races/ethnicities are plagued with the single parent/broken home stereotype the same way we are. Sure we may not directly inspire/affect those around us, but as the generations come and go, relationships within race will strengthen and thats how the community benefits from this in the long run
7:02 I’ve always disagreed with that because whenever I hear people bring that argument up it comes off as turning black people into accessories even before I get into the ideology of it
That's facts. Its more important that someone has pro black beliefs. You can be black, marry a black person and be republican. Two black republicans being married does not benefit the race as a whole due to the anti-black beliefs conservatives usually holdm
Why exactly are we putting so much stock in what Umar has to say about mixed couples? Does he pay your bills? If not, then do whatever you want. If you want to date out, date out. Just make sure you're doing it for the right reasons. The world is a large place full of romantically compatiible people you haven't met yet, and there's a strong chance that some of them ARE NOT black, and that's OK. Also, being pro-black and dating outside your race are not mutually exclusive ideas, nor does being pro-black mean "anti-white". Being pro-black means allowing ALL black people to express their own individual blackness, which may include dating out.
How does any relationship help the black community in the most important ways in America currently: materially and financially. How me looking at 2 people in love gonna help put food on my table for my family. This shit makes no sense, and why I can’t fuck with pro black topics that don’t involve helping black people on an economic level.
I read from someone earlier about some bs about black empowerment. How a white woman won’t contribute back into the black community and some other shit if they’re not in a relationship with a black person. Most people don’t even contribute to their own respective communities, let alone someone from an entirely different community (who would already have trouble being accepted by said community).
Just on title alone all i can say, love is love. Pain is pain, love is pain, pain is love. We all gonna experience it in different ways with different people eventually. Am i yapping? Yea bro
Is it so hard to believe to some people out of billions of people on the earth some just found happiness in another women that’s not within their race.
Have you been to the USA lol?. We have every culture and race on the planet here and thats why we view Umar's take as dumb. The chance of your dating outside your race here is sky high and VERY normal. Theres no threat to the black race. Heck the majority of the marriages I know are mixed marriges
He’s doing good so far…who’s we cuz nones standing with your brother…if you wanna hate then hate but don’t act surprised when your hate still counts as viewership
Omar’s logic doesn’t make sense because other people aren’t obsessed with race the way that he is. He saying, if you wanna date a black person, then go to places where Black people are, that would make sense if literally the number one thing on your list of trace that you’re looking for is black. Most people don’t date like that, most people are sensible, and they date people based off of having a shared connection having shared values, having shared interest so you’re gonna do that not just like scope out for people of a certain race that’s like a weird fetish fetish.
Other races are ABSOLUTELY obsessed with race, including this aspect of race. History will show you that time and time again, as well as interpersonal ideologies expressed by other races amongst one another.
@@Kallah_DaughterOfYAHUAH Yeah im sure that's why Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, Idi Amin Dada cared so much for their race that they had to kill a considerable amount of people just to show em that the race comes first.
@@Kallah_DaughterOfYAHUAH Your username alone indicates that you are probably in his cult. But no, black women date out the least of any race, so that indicates other races are MORE open to dating another race than us. Black men are high though second highest behind hispanics. (Pew Research)
listen if you take most of the things umar be saying as comedy, yall gon laugh a lot more lol. he be spitting sometimes but he def say hella backwards shit
isnt the end goal to have full and complete autonomy of yourself and of your race without the influence of an oppressor? not allowing yourself or your people to date outside your own race kinda defeats the purpose of complete autonomy like does it not? idk
I do think though, regardless of culture in question, a cause is feeling undesired or outcasted within your own culture, and if someone else embrace you well, why would you pass that up? To make a culture that doesn’t embrace you happy when all they seem to care about is face value?
I like whatever likes me that looks good. If that person likes me just because of my skin… that’s disturbing. You can like my complexion but not only want my complexion.
Im Lebanese and married to a Jew, heard all of this shit and i LOATHE it. Peace and progress comes also with love! (Not really the diluting the race part, but most of it lol)
If black people are the community, black couples would benefit the community just by existing. by them existing, joining, marrying, procreating, the community continues to exist. So I would say that we do "benefit" if we are pro black and put the communities needs first in all aspect when there are more black couples. It's also an extremely positive thing for children to see a couples rather than single parents. In a community where single parent households have done more harm than good...yeah seeing a black couple could do some good for some of us. I'm kinda playing devils advocate bc idgaf who dates who at the end of the day, but i could def see how it benefits.
@@bee3467 well for the sake of covering each thing you I do agree with you on the household thing in theory I think what you are conceptualizing as pro black eventually does more harm than good under the premise are only procreating with another under the main premise of being a beneficiary to one's community. A relationship isn't something to just have out of duty so to speak.
His logic be mad flawed like I understand what umar be trying to say but he just end up sounding mad and racially insecure. It’s a lot of slightly older brothers like him that want us to be racist and supremacists to counter all the racism and supremacy 😂
Although I don't agree with Umar on everything. He does have a point about slavery in africa. Africans who sold other Africans into slavery ended up being enslaved as well. They put their trust in the slave trade with the europeans. And the European got greedy and enslaved a lot of Africans even the ones who sold other Africans. They took the lands .. why do you think south Africa has a large population of Dutch descendants?
South Africa. Where's all that gusto for the North parts of Africa especially NorthWest Africa where Mali Empire was? How about most if not All of the Middle Eastern countries? Yall cherry pick which country you want to blame and ignore the ones that do warrent that conversation. All countries realistically benefited from slavery at one point or another short term or long. Read history, lot more complex that people like Dr. Umar make ot out to be.
In my experience people i be around who date outside they race tend to favor the other race they dating. It's never 50/50 one side usually likes the other culture more or grew up around more of that race and sometimes develops the same ideology.
@@Psychedlia98 Yea but that's kinda indicative to the point. There's alot of factors that play outside of race but in context of being pro black it's kinda hypocritical to be so pro something and do anti that.
@@ChrisComedy-rx9ge How is that indicative? You think that things such as shared values, material conditions, and social surroundings don't play a part? How is dating outside of the race anti-black? that sounds pretty simplistic and uneducated. I guess its because I grew up with different ethnic people and learned a variety of views, and I understand that being pro-black is more than just who you date, if you think dating outside of the race makes one anti black, I would say that is a very immature outlook of we as a people engage in society and help contribute. There are more ways to contribute than to date and make children, to me that sounds no different than when a white supremacist says it.
Modern Chattel Slavery in Mauritania - This country serves as a border between the Arab and Arab-Berber populations of North Africa and the people of West Africa
2:55 He didn't, by proxy of SELLING them they'd make money and avoid being disenfranchised and turned into slaves. Thay alone was a benefit thatd allow them to achieve the varying levels of culture and wealth they have currently simce they werent removed from it
Eh, I'm a black woman and been with my white bf forever now lol. I personally do not care if anyone consider me as a traitor or someone who doesn't support the community. I believe that due to what I know and what I do for my ppl behind closed doors. So someone can consider me as such but their opinion doesn't matter to me cause I know who I am and what I give back and I will continue to do so cause I want better for us as a whole. With that said, I actually agree with Umar on some things and not with others.
In terms of familial wealth, it does matter who you marry. Just look at the Royal bloodlines, they’re damn near incestual, because they know how important it is to keep it in the family. That being said, most people don’t have to worry about that… i would question that man’s net worth tho
Royal Bloodlines are like 0.01% of the population, who benefit more from tax payers than from "intergenerational wealth". Most wealthy families spend the bulk of their wealth in 2-3 generations. Rothschild and others are extremely rare and exceptional cases.
This kind of racionality Dr Umar have is quite dangerous, is the same thought process that Hitler had with Arians, the same thought process that led to what happened.
I bunny hop, beef patty hop(Jamaican/Trini), pupusa hop(Spanish) and coco butter and fried chicken hop(black). I've learn so much from those women's culture.😊
A fair amount of black men and women are actually on the more conservative side of a lot of social issues that Umar talks about, so I'm not entirely surprised he still gets platformed.
@@waynewayne8419 Umar is a make believe school principal pretending to be related to Frederick Douglass. LMAO His small minded worldviews are on their last gasp. It’s fun watching him panic as gen z swirl & date same sex in greater & greater numbers. It’s over.
It’s wild how there still grown people who are mad about who another person is dating. Then when you accuse them of being racist they say we can’t be racists. How about you pick up a dictionary and tell me the definition of what that words means. Second, all you are doing is maintaining segregation and keeping it alive for generations. Why does it matter if someone is blue, green, yellow, purple, silver, gold. If they a good human being to you and you love that person so be it? People love who they love y’all need to stop tripping about other people’s lives and make yours interesting. Because if you have time to talk about another person’s business obviously you don’t got a whole lot going on in your life. Get your bread up and stay in your lane
I kind of sympathize with the pressure of like "not race mixing" due to basically racism. People in america don't really know about Mexico and its racism but basically Mexico basically had "mix race until your family is fully white and hispanized". Its like a huge pressure lowkey since I'm like partially genetically indigenous and dont want that to disappear and make Dead Racist Inbred Spanish Royals happy (despite my tribe being culturally decimated by spanish conquistadors around probably the 1700-1800s). But idk life I guess, like how do you respond to like that type of pressure lol.
The Whites mixed with all there would be no current Mexican people without them. Latins & Hispanics are from Europe that’s where they originate. Middle Eastern & Asians White too. Whites just mixed with everyone theres too much of it in everyone to ignore.
@@Tocinos goofy ass response when you realize life goes on and me pondering this question is temporary and stuff but, of course you wouldn't understand at all lol
Nobody thought Drake was a danger until the whole texting Millie Bobby Brown underage thing dropped. But I would say Coke is more on the pro black side of hip hop though that’s not his whole image.
