wanna see only caravan playthrough, fixing every mojave's problems by making bets in caravan games, like defeat lanius with your OP sierra madre dead man's hand
From a gameplay and story perspective the yes man ending is easily the best, however I will admit siding with ncr isn't a bad way to go either. Followed by Caesars legion. Joining with Mr house is probably the most boring way to go about it.
@@IronEddie13 Bro's rooting for the faction that gets their best ending when they don't actually win 😂. Specifically using Barter 100 during Mr. House's ending is the best ending in Fallout: NV. The NCR avoids being overstretched, the 100 Barter dialogue with Lanius proves to him that the NCR cannot support itself in the Mojave. Having human soliders guarding caravans in a boiling desert is a lot less optimal than just using House's Sercuritons to guide troops through to the Legions more lucrative territory. Allowing House and NCR to join forces through House's Barter 100 is the best ending, and Hoover Dam runs more efficiently than ever under House's technical experience.
I absolutely love the couriers witty retorts in the House or Independent playthroughs. My favorite line is after General Oliver is praising you and wishing he had a dozen couriers to drop them like jacks around the Mojave, the courier can respond. "Think that's great, you won't believe what happens next" and then the upgraded securtrons come rolling in
@AdventuringMortal I wish with Yesman there was some nicer/diplomatic options there should have been more pro NCR Yesman options. It would make being a dick to the General options way more satisfying to pick
Unironically. Killing General Oliver gives NCR a brighter future as Colonel Hsu would likely take his spot. Oliver didn't care so much about diplomatic relations as Hsu did, and in New Vegas, diplomatic relations is everything. I could see a future where Hsu would be able to carve out an uneasy alliance with the Courier, or alternatively unite all of the surrounding factions and settlements against the Courier. The NCR's biggest foe is itself. Half of the leadership is plagued by severe incompetence with Oliver refusing to finish off the Legion, Moore actively ruining relations of other factions, Kimball rapidly annexing land that NCR cannot hold, and Crocket being useless.
Killing him risks making him a martyr which could anger the hire ups and lead them to choose someone like Moore to replace Oliver. Let him leave and return disgraced would completely discredit him, and could lead to someone like Hsu
If you don't expose Chief Hanlon, he'll become Redding's new Senator and be someone who will start the rise of the anti-hawkish movement in the NCR. He correctly states that people like Kimball and Oliver were too imperialistic to realize that their ways were going to leave the Republic open to revolution by the disgruntled people they rolled over.
Colonel Hsu likely takes his spot regardless. The NCR's defeat at the dam proves that leaders like Hsu and Hanlon were right all along while the Crockers, Moores, Olivers, and Kimballs were all wrong. As Max Braddy said, the death of Oliver-especially at the hands of the Courier-would likely turn him into a martyr and galvanize the NCR into a nation that hates the person who now rules The Strip. Considering NCR citizens are nearly the entire profit base of The Strip, that would likely sour the relationship and drastically weaken an Independent New Vegas, all while the NCR regains its strength *and* has an axe to grind for when it reinvades the Mojave. I'd argue the NCR is better off if both Oliver and Kimball survive while the NCR is defeated. They'd return from the Mojave disgraced, lose their positions, and be replaced by more competent leaders-in fact, Chief Hanlon even becomes a senator in one of the possible endings.
"You better have a damn good left hook or I'm not going anywhere" *Behind him, 3000 robots all aim their rapid fire missile launchers directly at the back of his skull*
You know I would've liked it if you can also reveal your other relationships with the tribes to General Oliver. At the end where he asks if you have what it takes to make a nation you can say "It'll be hard, but I won't be building it alone".
Once again you can't do any worse a job than the NCRs done. As the courier you're able to establish positive relationships with most of the factions in the Mojave, something the NCR has repeatedly failed to do.
Lets hope they make a remake of New vegas or a Directors cut version and actually give the team the proper time to make the game. Don't need upgraded graphics if it causes more issues, just try and make it work.
I like how oliver says that you dont know about the logistics of running a nation while the NCR cant even afford to outfit its troops with standard equipment lol
Too be fair the Mojave is limited by the Long 15 which is a major logistical bottleneck. Were the NCR able to send more, they'd likely monkey-stomp most opposition.
@@youraveragescotsman7119 the problem isn't the bottle neck, its that the ncr stretched itself to far. they had more miles of land, than they have soldiers to defend it. the problem is that they cannot send more, because ncr territory is overrun with bandits& other problems cuased by reaching for more than you than effectively govern.
I think the NCR can furnish their troops with proper gear, but they just don't see the point of giving them to frontier troops, the horrors of the legions are miles away after all.
you know what would be funny but what if. if you have an Idolized reputation with the NCR and still went for the house/independent ending during the confrontation with oliver you get a dialogue choice in where oliver tries to order his men to attack/arrest you but instead his men betrays him and instead supports the courier since they had done a lot more for both NCR and the people of the mojave than him and moore has ever done to them.
God, befriending the major factions to the point they betray their own leaders to join you would be incredible. It would make the ability to have fame and infamy at the same time actually do something, too.
Yep. I imagine the response is "[NCR Rep] Really general? You think your boys are gonna up and shoot me? After everything I've done for them? Go ahead, give the order!"
I love the fact after this serious test of will between the two characters, you actually learn the Courier is naked wearing the Legates helmet LOL i wasnt ready for that
that would be sick, running errands trying to bring order, defending the frontier, that would have been a great content boost of a DLC, but playing a game of civ after being a demigod in nevada wouldnt be a unique DLC to alot of people, and the original idea of "beating the game" is done so it would just be endgame content just to squeeze 10 extra hours out of the player
@@Harsh-tf9he There's a very old mod for this, called RTS, from which bethesda took idea of ANOTHER SETTLEMENT NEEDS YOUR HELP, but its more like RTS itself, with settlement economics, resources, alliances, caravans, some crazy ass features like copying any piece of equipment with the help of blacksmith. Its not even just a "settlement", it becomes a real city with real economics and stuff, loved to settle near jacobstown's silver pike mine, rich silver and iron resource spot
Only Moore's and his own ironically. Hanlon tried to pull a trick specifically to put an end to that, Crocker's just a civilian trying to get the Mojave through softer means, while Hsu is worried about the Fiends presence in the back lines.
Oliver eagerly throws away his own men for the sake of his own personal glory; it's not about making a point, it's about whether or not he'll be getting the credit for the victory. Since he definitely can't win against the Securitron army, he has no glory to gain here, just more casualties he'll have to account for back home.
The best part was the underwear and helmet, imagine some dude is talking back to you (general in the NCR) and said person just killed a legendary leader of your rival and they are just standing there naked with the leaders helmet on covered in blood. That is now canon in my book for New Vegas
If I was Oliver, I would freak out, really. That guy just cleaved through whole legion, killed Lanius with bare hands and now he is standing there like a total badass. I wouldn't oppose the Courier, nope. (Oliver even told him to have a good left hook if he wants to fight) Lanius was a monster plus he was in a full steel armor. Oliver has just his uniform. Not to mention all the robots that aim at him. Is he mad? Why would anyone insult the Courier at this moment.
Build towns? Already here Protect the roads? You send me to shot 3 ants Run supplies? I am a courier if you noticed Train troops? That Upgrade for my robots beat 2 weeks of training and no body armor easy
Towns? - Goodsprings/Primm are good baselines Protect the roads?- the smoking pile of rubble and goo that was known as 3 ants, Powder gangers, the Vipers, Fiends, vault 19, Great Khans, AND a whole nest of Deathclaws at Sloan will tell you other wise. Supplies? already did more than the NCR just farming exp from Forlorn Hope, and Bittersprings Train Troops? The misfits took two lessons and went from NCR to 2nd day on the job Courier tier.
Running supplies, being a courier, the courier already has a lot of established trade connections no doubt, he knows people, and traders already inter-trade with the legion and ncr, and the ncr can't even stop its citizens from visiting vegas even if it wanted to, what makes you think entrepreneur's motivated by wealth is going to stop?
@@greasey8695 * do _too well_ They didn't do _too well_ at giving him direction. And though I agree, it's ironic that his character is as lax and unremarkable about procedure as his VA is about playing the role.
I absolutely love the Yes man ending. You go from being shot in the face to giving every other faction that gave you shit the middle finger, while cleaning up the mess the Legion and NCR did to the land
It's satisfying but realistically the worst ending. The game pretty much says straight up that the whole thing will fall apart after the Courier is gone.
@@bonehed1 It already starts to fall apart even when the Courier is still alive. E.g. Freeside, the one region which supposedly profits most from an independent Vegas, turns into an even worse shithole, with the Followers being completely overwhelmed by the refugee influx.
@@bonehed1 Not inevitably. If you gather all the side factions, they can create a society and after the Courier is gone, continue to grow. Courier surely taught them something, but they each knew something else, about politics, survival, society, supplying, farming, training soldiers etc. Just Khans and Boomers, these two factions are good at various things. If you merge them into a society, they learn from each other, become more civilized and advanced. And then you have other factions and also the common folk of the Wasteland etc. They can all cooperate.
Can we talk about how scared Oliver looks once you mention the Boomers? He's imagining them in a B-29 Superfortress, flying right over Shady Sands and dropping mini-nukes.
Legends came about of “The Broken Man”, who, like his burned compatriot of the First Battle, was thrown off Hoover Dam. The NCR refuses to speak his name, out of shame how he costed the faction the Dam.
General Oliver was right.. he warned us.. I was never ready for.. "Another settlement needs our help, I'll mark it on your map" I just wasn't ready for that responsibility in fallout 4
Preston is too op. Ncr couldn't stop him, Legion couldn't stop him not even legate because his sheer power of looking for general and unfortunately Courier is the general until Sole Survivor comes out
To be fair the courier isn't really "building a nation" they're taking over a gang territory The general seems to think the only way to succeed is to take all the land the Mojave has to offer but really this is new Vegas people come, gamble, and leave who needs conquest when you have a steady stream of caps and an army of robots who can protect visitors casinos and shops and don't need food, water, medicine, or even training
@@rivepest6158 Plus, if you could get the necessary manufacturing facilities up & running again, you could be churning out new 'troops' in droves... quicker than NCR can find more poorly trained conscripts, that's for sure!
I honestly prefer "I guarantee I've put more thought into the state of the Mojave than you or anyone from NCR." Because it's the truest, clearest rebuttal to what Oliver's actually saying. You've (probably, depending on playthrough) done more good for the people in the Mojave since getting shot in the head and left for dead in a ditch than the entire NCR's done in literal years.
@@UrLeingod If I can unite the majsority of the Mojave while fighting off the legion and finding treasure troves of technology at the Sierra Madre and Big MT, I can lead the Mojave far better than the overstretched nation that is essentially ran by a few monopalistic merchants and ranchers
@@UrLeingod Yeah, considering the courier can potentially exterminate the fiends, dismantle the legion, create peaceful relationships between the ncr and the brotherhood and/or great khans who used to hate each others guts all in the space of a few days, yeah the NCR ain't got shit on them
I never got that cutscene so when I saw it in someone's video I just thought it was a funny animation they made for the video, didn't know it was an actual cutscene, i love it
Thing is, the Courier has built built towns. According to Ulysses. If it weren’t for the courier, settlements in the Divide wouldn’t have flourished. Only reason it didn’t was because the NCR wanted to use the divide as a way to bring in more troops and caravans into the Mojave, which made Caesar send in troops to intervene. And because the NCR used the Courier to deliver a package that ended up waking up the nukes in the Silos. So the NCR is just as capable of destroying towns just as much as they are building them. The courier was braving the harsh conditions of the divide to deliver to people living in the divide.
might have been worse. I'm a firm believer that strict restrictions lead to better games. Silent hill is my favorite example. They added the fog to hide the bad render distance, and it worked beautifully, game wouldn't have been nearly as scary without the fog effects. Maybe if they had more time, they would have overthought things, over planned things. I know they didn't have avalone, and its a big reason why, but they had plenty of time to make outer worlds, and that game was aggressively average at best.
@@VonDelacroix this is true sometimes. Has probably hurt more games than it's helped though. Fallout NV certainly had *a lot* of bugs. And a lot of cut content. The only thing that was in their favor is the game engine was already developed, but even with that, 18 months is a very short time to make all the content they did. Then they had to make a bunch of DLC instead of fix the bugs.
@@thesmellofbacon7595 I have never encountered a bug in fnv, I have been playing since it came out on the 360. I have also never ran into any bugs on non modded pc.
Honestly this game is more of a masterpiece compared to vampire the masquerade bloodlines that's still getting patched this day. At least you can play Fallout NV on the console just fine but Bloodlines can't even handle that.
Courier: Yeah lemme get that cigar. I could use a smoke after my second conquest today. Oliver: Wait what was the first? Courier: Your Mom Oliver: My Mother's dead Courier: I know
I always loved how Yes-Man is only *technically* a yes man. It's very easy to tell when he thinks something is a bad idea or a good one, and you know when he's actually praising you or not. His job is mostly to help you take control of the Mojave, and being a full on sycophant who only does what you say would be detrimental to that.
house had 2 centuries of area planning and it's known for taking notes, so there are for sure schemes and possible starting setups in his network beside, that's the point of independant, you can build it up to absolute success, or you can demolish thing and made vegas the next whore to be run over by overzealous riders
@@jacksonmanitoulinisland See, that's what I like about the Independent ending and why I only discuss it with others who realize this too. Everyone who has picked a team has cherry-picked quotes they think proves that their ending is better than Independent. Meanwhile, everyone who actually thought about the Independent ending has written at least one dissertation on their ideas for a kinder, more equitable society that avoids the mistakes of those who came before. After you show that you've thought about the challenges and have solutions, then they start saying stuff like "but but but you play as a mailman with brain damage" like being someone who has braved the worst the wasteland has to offer and survived an attempt on their life disqualifies you from being a competent leader. Oh, and the ending slide quotes. Like yeah, the initial stage of any revolution is bloody and the Followers get overwhelmed. That's why you use the Securitrons to establish peace again and use some profits from Vegas to fund the Followers' efforts. Yeah, NCR brass will want to come back for round two. That's why you do a bunch of quests for them. Establish yourself as someone who is truly dedicated to improving the lives of everyone else. Some people will defect immediately, others will see your results and join up later, and the rest won't think too highly of trying to conquer land held by people who just want to live peacefully. Personally, I think a loose coalition of independent settlements would be best. Most towns and tribes seem to think that war is bad, so getting them to agree to live peacefully with their neighbors wouldn't be too.
@@Ideabot_69 Honestly, if you analyze the geopolitics of New Vegas well enough, you could give dissertations on why every ending is good. While I don't think the Independent ending is at all better than House's vision of the future, I will agree that the vagueness of the ending can mean anything and everything, from utter chaos (which the independent ending slides suggest) to wasteland utopia under the Courier's -- and by extension the Yes Man and the Securitrons' -- watch. Regardless of whether or not the main factions have represented your ideologies, there is an ending waiting for you in the game. It's why I still consider New Vegas as a prominent example of how a game can provide a unique narrative experience in a way that films and books could never replicate. There aren't many places where you can find constant debates on what ending is the best while understanding that every ending is, in their own way, relatively perfect.
Courier: How about a joke? Gen. Oliver: … It better be good. What is it? Courier: Hoover Dam. Gen. Oliver: I don’t get it. Courier: You said it. *Shoots Gen. Oliver*
Used to be a NCR fan. Then I got an understanding of ‘em, now I hate him. Only cool thing about them is the Veteran armor, Riot Gear, Desert Ranger armor, and some various others.
@@theeyeoftheyinyangs Just like in a lot of governments, the only decent and likeable people in it are the ones who dont have the authority to improve it.
Imagine general Oliver is still alive. Then On the next fallout game that is set on the west coast again. We see him, trying to get revenge. If this is canon lol.
Courier doesn't need to train troops he just needs to manage the securitrons They have absolute loyalty and no fear if the legion could clear the roads the courier could most towns are pretty cooperative as long as they don't get too reliant on the courier it wouldn't be all that bad Could even give the NCR some energy from hoover dam too keep them off his back
I wish there was a way to have an independent Vegas but be allied with the NCR as a type of coalition. Like a "I have control of the dam and Vegas but I'll assist the NCR in their fights" type of deal.
Funny how the threat of the Boomers is enough to make the NCR retreat even though the NCR has an air force that’s larger and more skilled than the Boomers.
General Oliver Lee is one of the most laughable characters in New Vegas. Hell, the entirety of the NCR- with the exception of the Rangers, who are really Mojave natives to begin with -are a laughingstock. They clearly overstretched themselves, are woefully incompetent at handling the numerous problems present in the Mojave, and yet still have the utter _gall_ to pretend that they can hold the Dam and New Vegas. Not being able to ice every last one of them with all the forces I’ve collected by the end of the game is pretty disappointing after you have to have this ridiculous conversation with the General.
I had mined our 6' in case Lee Oliver and gang decided to throw down. (I had Cannibal Johnson with me) and after General Lee Oliver and I came to a truce - I forgot to remove our fragmines! It came to a shitdown with Lee Oliver still mid-air, while I was punching him with the "Golden gloves", looking, to see if Mr. House saw where his gloves went. 😂 It was so funny. Even Mr. House threw down(😅) and got the last shots into a pile of Ncr Rangers that wound up at the gate. 5 plasma mines had sent them flying, Lee Oliver on his face, and me to undress and stack all to drugs South-East of New Reno. Oh, fuck. Cannibal Johnson.. That I forgot to remove the "Plan b: Retreat line" of mines.😅
Seeing those Rangers just reminded me of the Ghost People. If you leave Christine alive, she basically becomes their queen (I think that's what the game says??? She definitely walks among them, tho.) I wonder how different the fight for Hoover Dam would be if you reached out to the Sierra Madre and requested help from Christine and the ghost people. Has nothing to do with the video, but, ya know. I looked really quickly and thought they were the Ghost People and was like, "What?" but nah, they're just Rangers
Was checking the video for the speech checks, but found you using the ranger combat armor version that I love from Fallout 4, would you tell me how to get this version for FNV ?
Excuse me, maybe this question was posted many times here, but what’s your personal mod list? And for F3 as well? Where could I look them up? Thanks in advance!
Seeing all that threatening you would expect there to be a menacing person threatening a general, but no, its just some guy with a robot army that has nothing but some boxers and a helmet on
He’s really lying to himself about the NCR’s return to Vegas, the people, the barons and the politicians are sick of funding the campaign, a complete loss of Vegas would be the final straw.
I can see star (Bethesda game idk the name of) being the building blocks for a huge fallout game. Like how the general said the bear claw spans from most of California. You can go through loading screens to get to these areas. Like say I can go from Massachusetts commonwealth to new Vegas through a vertibird or train
