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Blurred Lines: NASCAR’s Track Limit Struggle at COTA 

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On the latest episode of Door Bumper Clear, the hosts Brett Griffin, Freddie Kraft, TJ Majors, and Casey Boat were joined by Connor Zilisch to discuss several NASCAR-related topics. They talked about the quality of the racing at the Circuit of the Americas (COTA), the frequent penalties for exceeding track limits, and an intense off-track confrontation between Kyle Busch and Christopher Bell. Additionally, they discussed the challenges NASCAR faces while enforcing track limits and potential solutions.
Is Connor Zilisch on his way to becoming the next Kyle Larson? He hopes so.
Chapters
00:00 - Intro
01:18 - Connor Zilisch Joins
19:48 - Connor Zilisch Talks Social Media
38:24 - Chase Elliott's Penalty
43:07 - Justin Haley Disqualified
45:04 - Spot On, Spot Off
1:13:28 - Reaction Theater
1:21:52 - Ask DBC
1:35:09 - DBC Picks
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@justinschultz4325
@justinschultz4325 3 месяца назад
I'll admit it. I became a fan of Nascar this year after watching the Bubba Wallace "Race" and "Nascar Full Speed" documentaries. Prior to that, I would watch with my dad as a kid. That was 30 years ago. I picked a great season to get back into it. Every race has been great to watch. The commentary during the race and podcasts to listen to afterwards keeps me engaged. Keep up the great work.
@Dirtydeff
@Dirtydeff 3 месяца назад
SVG passed the 3rd most cars on Sunday and didn't have 1st gear in the last 20 laps so no that bad
@willhogan5010
@willhogan5010 3 месяца назад
SVG schooled the Xfinity drivers and was the fastest guy on track in the cup race before having an issue on the dash causing him to speed on pit road and then losing first gear. Without those issues its a Top 10 or 5 in a Kaulig car which isn't hugely competitive, so I wouldn't say we saw he was human this weekend.
@mintoxace5571
@mintoxace5571 3 месяца назад
Thank you. I’m glad somebody else noticed. Ask Kyle Larson who’s the best road course driver in nascar at the moment and he ain’t mentioning anyone other than SVG. He said so in his post race conference after XFinity.
@jakejackson3107
@jakejackson3107 3 месяца назад
These guys just cant get over how badly SVG schooled the cup guys at Chicago. SVG worked his way back to the top 10 after a speeding penalty. he easily gets a top 10 if he doesn't lose first gear. I am glad there are others defending SVG. These guys should actually watch the race, and understand what really happened
@chadchadchadchadchad
@chadchadchadchadchad 3 месяца назад
Bret, in particular, acts like SVG walks around saying he's the best NASCAR driver in the world, or that he "beat your favorite driver." Nope, SVG is a confident, yet humble, guy that is a great road racer. Got an arguably BS penalty on Saturday that f'd his race.
@SouperGoose62
@SouperGoose62 3 месяца назад
SVG was in Trackhouse equipment for the cup race utilizing kaulig 's charter
@df-ft6iq
@df-ft6iq 3 месяца назад
@@jakejackson3107 I’m wondering if SVG will ever be on this show
@ItsMeClav
@ItsMeClav 3 месяца назад
Connor is gonna be a great talent. Same with SVG. Sucks he got the penalty and lost first gear.
@bigboylife5463
@bigboylife5463 3 месяца назад
Not these guys…. Brett lol
@TheCloudCreation
@TheCloudCreation 3 месяца назад
I really appreciated the age limit talk. Back in the day, I was able to get a special waver from NASCAR to be able to start late models at 12 and K&N at 14. There is absolutely no way NASCAR would let that happen now and it is a bit of a shame because there are kids that have the talent and maturity to be able to race upper tiers, but just are not old enough.
@robcatterton8244
@robcatterton8244 3 месяца назад
Cup race was a nodder. Xfinity race was the best racing of the weekend.
@user-op9vy2bu2u
@user-op9vy2bu2u 3 месяца назад
Been watching Conor for a couple years now since he came into Mx-5 Cup and smoked one of the toughest fields of road racers in the world. So cool to watch him succeed and grow, that Sebring drive was EPIC. Thanks for having him on guys, might get me to watch a NASCAR race this year.
@turbo_clt
@turbo_clt 3 месяца назад
Man that kid rocks. I cant wait to see him win in every series he is in.
@CaptainDerty
@CaptainDerty 3 месяца назад
8 minutes in and I love this fuckin kid. Wish him success, very cool.
@davids5006
@davids5006 3 месяца назад
I'm thinking about when I was 17 🤣 no where near as mature as him
@kevincoleman5082
@kevincoleman5082 3 месяца назад
TJ was spot on with his comment about C.Bell v. KFB…. KB is assuming that bell is too far back to even attempt the pass. The only reason Bell has a chance is because KB opens up the entry to try and cross the 45. Bell saw the very small window and poked in there - but probably was not even going to come close to making the pass - only thing he’d accomplish is ruining both their laps in turn 1
@simonbrown3766
@simonbrown3766 3 месяца назад
Conor speaks so well for a young lad, kids gonna be maybe a yung money in yrs to come.
@Horology_Horsepower
@Horology_Horsepower 3 месяца назад
Nobody seems to remember that SVG said he lost 1st gear during the cup race.
@df-ft6iq
@df-ft6iq 3 месяца назад
They don’t want to remember
@davids5006
@davids5006 3 месяца назад
Or we don't care
@chrisw443
@chrisw443 3 месяца назад
SVG had a broken gearbox. I think he woulda had a top 15.
@whitneyharding9869
@whitneyharding9869 3 месяца назад
Connor was one of the winning drivers in the LMP2 category in this years Rolex 24.
@arbysandtehchief5494
@arbysandtehchief5494 3 месяца назад
Nah that's Corey Lajoie's fault 100%. He ran wide and it didn't work out and caused a wreck. Worst driver in the cup series currently, does this every week. Having Connor on was awesome though. Keep on rollin' to Richmond!
@MarkHerrmann-wf2yq
@MarkHerrmann-wf2yq 3 месяца назад
What happened to the guys with the songs on the reaction portion!
@cseabrook3
@cseabrook3 3 месяца назад
They also mentioned that they have the same sensors as F1. Atleast I swore I heard them say that
@matthewallen5399
@matthewallen5399 3 месяца назад
I like cota but for nascar they should straight line from turn 4 to turn 6 and turn left and straight line down to the back straight and turn left again into the stadium area. This gets rid of the track limits in the esses and the shorter lap time will make yellows a little bit more likely as there is less time for a car to get moving again before the leaders come by.
@DewkChronic
@DewkChronic 3 месяца назад
Freddy dropping some rule issues for Nascar wednesday Thursday
@sethg1338
@sethg1338 3 месяца назад
That first guy on the call really loved road coarse races 😂 his wife/cousin probably agrees
@billcollins1990
@billcollins1990 3 месяца назад
Road America has the best views of every corner if you walk or cart around.
@christianorourke819
@christianorourke819 3 месяца назад
Add more reaction theater calls and you’ll 100% beat Denny’s podcast!
@DewkChronic
@DewkChronic 3 месяца назад
if a driver is not trying to get an advantage. chase made a mistake not trying to gain an advantage, give em a warning
@yankeegooner4112
@yankeegooner4112 3 месяца назад
I watch F1 regularly as well and I didn't think it was confusing at all, nor did I think it was that boring of a race. Wasn't the most exciting, but that's racing for ya.
@Bak3dGamingYT
@Bak3dGamingYT 3 месяца назад
Chase didn’t really inherit Gordon’s fan base. He inherited Jrs fan base
@DewkChronic
@DewkChronic 3 месяца назад
that kid is 17, Oh sheeeeeeit nascar this guy is coming.
@GeekyFast
@GeekyFast 3 месяца назад
Been a fan since the 90s, but I like seeing the COTA race on TV. Went last year and camped Saturday-Monday. Great fan zone and infield viewing. I also love IMSA/Trans-AM so I'm biased toward the road courses. 🏁
@derekprzesmicki9578
@derekprzesmicki9578 3 месяца назад
Im sorry, 9:19, Connor has massive hands
@Cman-vv4kd
@Cman-vv4kd 3 месяца назад
Broooo I was just listening to it in the background. His hands are huge, wtf lol
@DewkChronic
@DewkChronic 3 месяца назад
Last week the 11 went to R&D and they found a yellow grease on the floor. The lab said it was pee.
@DewkChronic
@DewkChronic 3 месяца назад
the tire has an edge and get that to wear round and drivers will hate it.
@brandoncreswell
@brandoncreswell 3 месяца назад
Kid in high-school racing. Men with 20 years of winning experience can't even pay to race
@73gent16
@73gent16 3 месяца назад
These teams and drivers have enough money to build their own go kart test tracks.
@jeromefreer1258
@jeromefreer1258 3 месяца назад
People who say You Know over and over.It's like You Know What I'm Sayin. It's a N.C. thing. Ricky Stenhouse Jr. And Jeff Gordon. You know,real fast every sentence
@djacgators1
@djacgators1 3 месяца назад
Sorry Casey but CBell flinched from head to toe by his body language. That’s the kind of think that will get him beat down
@gravy2142
@gravy2142 3 месяца назад
So, you guys are saying that Corey should be penalized for putting him in a bad situation by overdriving his car around others, but Chase should not be penalized for overdriving his car by himself?
@Kubush1
@Kubush1 3 месяца назад
Trackhouse doing big things
@Johnny-es1wl
@Johnny-es1wl 3 месяца назад
All the drivers know the rules. I really dont understand why all the extra pavement if you cant use it though. I say put gravel traps there. Problem solved.
@RG-vl1ln
@RG-vl1ln 3 месяца назад
I saw lots of boring mile in a half in the pass we are not removing those. If you want nascar to be a world class racing series you need road course.
@Ice-Blade
@Ice-Blade 3 месяца назад
track limits..... pft....those are always made up as ya go... good luck drivers/teams #elliot
@billsmith9737
@billsmith9737 3 месяца назад
This kid is cocky as hell .. I love it
@theseanie9958
@theseanie9958 3 месяца назад
casey wanting ty to run the hate group paint scheme on easter? i dont get that
@ericlowery339
@ericlowery339 3 месяца назад
It boggles my mind that Chase is the most popular driver. Dude has the personality of a bump on a pickle.
@DewkChronic
@DewkChronic 3 месяца назад
Bell knows its he #1 guy KB loves the kid.
@brandoncreswell
@brandoncreswell 3 месяца назад
Pretty good driver. Not someone i want to be the star one day when I'm trying to get my friends to watch
@cxg88
@cxg88 3 месяца назад
Hey NASCAR, we have to go back to a spec version of the Gen 6 car. It’s the only way to fix short tracks and road courses.
@gavynhohon2818
@gavynhohon2818 3 месяца назад
Horsepower would be an easier fix.
@cxg88
@cxg88 3 месяца назад
@@gavynhohon2818 well that grooved tires with less contact patch
@seanscorsonellibean2153
@seanscorsonellibean2153 3 месяца назад
Cota sucked but all road course races dont this one just did. And if you go to a road course race you definitely need to walk around to enjoy the different views of the track. At Sonoma i use to buy 2 tickets to the race one main grandstand and one turn 2. Main grandstand at Sonoma sucks but you get pre race festivities concert air show driver intros etc. Then before race starts run up the hill to turn 2 for start of race ( turn 2 is best for starts and restarts ) stay there till stage 2 restart then go back down the hill to the bridge and go into the family zone ( no ticket needed for this section its where the scoring tree is ) great views of a lot of track from this area probably the one spot you can see most of the track. Then we actually parked in the field behind the s's so before end of race we make our way to the s turn granstands ( usually by the end of race the track ticket workers dont care if you walk right into turn 9 grandstands ) we watch the last part of the race and get the views of them coming down the track through the s's right when the checkered flag flies we hightail it back down the hill to the car and get outta dodge before all the traffic clogs the exits 😂
@seanscorsonellibean2153
@seanscorsonellibean2153 3 месяца назад
And we never watch one lap from main grandstand btw. All you get is the short chute to hairpin and main straight where start finish line is. Worst place to watch any part of the race only good for pre race festivities
@chadchadchadchadchad
@chadchadchadchadchad 3 месяца назад
Glad Bret was able to remind us how tough boys from SC are and that every disagreement in his world is settled with fists. Bret, you weigh 250 lbs. Bell probably weighs 145. He drives for Joe Gibbs. And he also realizes that KB had reason to be mad at him. Some people realize that if they piss someone off, the other person might come say something about it and that doesn't give them the right to punch them in the face. Your take on the Crafton "fair fight" at Dega was about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Waylon Jennings told David Allan Coe once, "David, if you're really a badass, you don't have to go around telling people all the time. They just figure it out." Or something along those lines.
@douglaswaite9574
@douglaswaite9574 3 месяца назад
The Gopro/Trackhouse gocart track is singlehandedly killing oval racing cause its too much fun. There - I SAID IT.
@jasonbell1900
@jasonbell1900 3 месяца назад
Did anyone actually take the comment of Chase not doing off track distractions and realise he is trying to find a way to be good in the current car, a car he acknowledges he is struggling with and needs to find the answers for? Doesn't matter about commercial opportunities if you are not a week in week force on the track. Pretty certain Chase is good for sponsorships for now, but that will go away if track results don't pick up
@bigorange2082
@bigorange2082 3 месяца назад
Can we just get rid of COTA? That was a horrible race to watch.
@DewkChronic
@DewkChronic 3 месяца назад
I know a guy Cody in Arca will be at Dega Cody is cool and 100% good ol boy
@DewkChronic
@DewkChronic 3 месяца назад
Cody was gonna qually for a race and a guy who made it dont have to go out. dude got screwed
@stevilkinevil98
@stevilkinevil98 3 месяца назад
LOL Casey you clearly didn't watch the video. C Bell is scared shitless
@mintoxace5571
@mintoxace5571 3 месяца назад
Haha you guys are tripping. SVG had car issues all day in cup and still drove back to the top 20 with a busted dash that caused a pit lane drive through penalty and no first gear. You give SVG a decent car on a road course and he will be up front 90% of the time.
@MrBurney12
@MrBurney12 3 месяца назад
If they want track limits put turtles in big enough to make it not worth trying to cut.
@Nickearl1
@Nickearl1 3 месяца назад
Nothing like letting Willie B cut the esses 😂 put the turtles back
@DewkChronic
@DewkChronic 3 месяца назад
there is a kid who is 10 named Tony. fast twitch muscles.
@benpancho3261
@benpancho3261 3 месяца назад
25:40 main issue with Kyle Busch was tobacco sponsorship as a 16-year-old
@lefturn99
@lefturn99 3 месяца назад
I liked the race. Not perfect, but..........
@sahholsteins1
@sahholsteins1 3 месяца назад
46:00 you guys don't hate chase Elliott, some Elliott fans think you need to talk constantly about chase Elliott 🙄🙄 And thank dbc you not talking about popular drivers and sticking to what's going on in the sport
@dirty_c5573
@dirty_c5573 3 месяца назад
two things I don't understand about nascar fans 1. the popularity of wet blanket Elliot, people say "he's different off camera"...... so you like a fake personality? 2. praising someone for a good performance in an illegal car, if you can get away with an illegal car and do well, more power to ya but they aren't good if they get caught, "random" or not as far track limits goes, we constantly hear them say " these are best drivers in the world" , if that were true, they could stay on track all the way around the course.
@hunterjackson855
@hunterjackson855 3 месяца назад
All of yall missed the fact bell more then likely looks up to kyle and has enough respect for him to listen. He drove for kyle and they do dirt racing together. Btw yall cant bitch about drivers shoving it in to turn one on a restart and then make excuses for bell driving from 20 back and shoving his nose into the corner.
@GarrettBarneycastle
@GarrettBarneycastle 3 месяца назад
I think that Chase is losing a fanbase. For many fans who grew up watching NASCAR it has been a struggle linking to a driver after guys like Dale Earnhardt sr./jr, Rusty Wallace, Mark Martin, Davey Allison, and more recently Kevin Harvick are no longer on the track. A lot of people gravitated to Chase because of his last name. From many fans point of view there is just not much to gravitate towards. He doesn't seem to connect to his fans very well.
@TomLehockySVK
@TomLehockySVK 3 месяца назад
53:30 cautions do NOT make for better races ! Honestly remove the stage-cautions from road courses, they ruin the flow and waste a TON of time, they were already removed and instead of keeping a real race they add them back ? Awful.
@DewkChronic
@DewkChronic 3 месяца назад
Denny and MTJ are probably highest paid drivers... just saying.
@flacko_jody2130
@flacko_jody2130 3 месяца назад
These guys love to try to blame bubba lol. Sheesh. Rear ended and its his fault 😂
@SwigerQ86
@SwigerQ86 3 месяца назад
I swear Byron cut the Esses but they never called it.
@NickyD
@NickyD 3 месяца назад
he didnt chase did
@Rippingthewall
@Rippingthewall 3 месяца назад
no way man. they had that trigger that went off if it was done by an inch. If they took a second place away from SVG they would get byron as well.
@ittybitty2112
@ittybitty2112 3 месяца назад
Swear all u want still won't be true
@jacobedwardfrye8845
@jacobedwardfrye8845 3 месяца назад
I thought I saw it in the closing laps too!
@scottseese13
@scottseese13 3 месяца назад
They all did. Fucked up calling the race.
@rattlejuggalo13
@rattlejuggalo13 3 месяца назад
OMG!!! I'm old. Conner turns 19 on July 22 and I turn 48. But that's cool that we share a birthday. I haven't met many people that share my birthday, yet there were 3 of us in the family that do. LOL
@Samwise428
@Samwise428 3 месяца назад
I thought it was watkins glen that was the fastest not indy
@601KingMusic
@601KingMusic 3 месяца назад
I swear, people nitpick and cry over any little thing about Ty Gibbs.. It’s so annoying
@RussellMotorsports
@RussellMotorsports 3 месяца назад
The track limits garbage was embarrassing. Obscure penalties at one spot on the track, and in the next section the TV broadcast is saying how you have to drop your right side tires off in the dirt to hook the edge of the pavement to make lap time. Look like a bunch of clowns carving up the grass and having dirt all over the track. Btw, SVG a track limit penalty that no one saw and TV didnt show, but TV shows Parker Kligerman yard sales the esses and no penalty? 🤡
@Cancelthis1541
@Cancelthis1541 3 месяца назад
Casey is cool, she asks good questions. Don't run her off.
@luckyjim51
@luckyjim51 3 месяца назад
If Chace retired, I'd never miss him... and they need to run on rain tires or narrower tires....
@crazyco95
@crazyco95 3 месяца назад
TJ is exactly right on Chase. We gotta stop demanding someone be someone they aren't/don't want to be. Chase didn't ask to be who NASCAR, Hendrick, and the fans made him out to be. Let him live his life. If that includes being on a B- Netflix series then so be it. Verstappen was nowhere in the last series of Drive to Survive. It's just flat out not a priority for an individual.
@DewkChronic
@DewkChronic 3 месяца назад
conor Kid his truck got beat up.
@djacgators1
@djacgators1 3 месяца назад
Oh no it’s exactly what Chase Eidiot meant. He Doesn’t care about the sport like a Jeff Burton or Dale Jr. y’all know this but CANT say it about the golden boy.
@racegrubb2152
@racegrubb2152 3 месяца назад
Since when is 5 or 36 1/4 of the schedule? What math is that fan talking about. Also I love Nascar fans. If every race isn't an A++ they throw a fit like an 8 year old. Tough shit. Every race isn't gonna be an awesome show. There are either too many cautions, not enough cautions, too many wrecks, not enough wrecks, stage cautions, no stage cautions at road courses, not enough tire wear, too much tire wear, not enough fights, too many fights, not enough mechanical problems, too many mrchanical problems. Oh but the numbers are in the wrong place 😢😢😢😢 I'm not watching any more. Only one lug😢😢😢 I'm not watching anymore. For f... sake shut the f.. up lol. drivers don't have enough personality, this driver shows too much personality. I don't care what Nascar does, changes, or doesn't change. Their entitled little fans are gonna cry cry cry. The race was eeegh okay. I enjoyed it. Could have been better for sure. If I am fortunate enough to sit back and enjoy some racing I am happy. Some of these fans are just ridiculous. Pretty funny to listen to though. At least racing has more variable's than a stupid ass game where grown men play with balls and run up and down the same Field over and over. Oh wait l, astro turf or real grass being the difference. Oh and the colors of the arena. Also if it weren't for the fans crying in 2003, Nascar would have stayed with a full point season. They made a change because fans complained. Now they complaining about how the championship is decided. If they went back to full seasons points people would start throwing a fit as well. Guaranteed
@hypebroouttanowhere6411
@hypebroouttanowhere6411 3 месяца назад
The Kyle Larson of road course
@ronbelanger4113
@ronbelanger4113 3 месяца назад
Nascar cars are not built for real circuits, and it always shows when they run on them.
@crowley29
@crowley29 3 месяца назад
Everytime a road course comes up everyone complains were not gonna attract new fans driving left that's what makes people make fun of the sport we need diversity or it will die
@charleswickline3865
@charleswickline3865 3 месяца назад
Whats up Freddie the pickle kisser????????
@ericmicke4130
@ericmicke4130 3 месяца назад
If we can have 6 superspeedway "races" we can have 5 or 6 road course races where drivers actually matter to some degree. I don't get the whining about them. If Goodyear brought better tires and nascar had better cars we'd be fine everywhere. The tracks aren't aren't the issue. The whiny fan base and NASCAR's BS chasing an APPEARANCE of good racing gets in the way.
@DewkChronic
@DewkChronic 3 месяца назад
COTA is too technical. we dont need every type of corner and 20 turns. this place is almost too much for F1
@MangoJasssss
@MangoJasssss 3 месяца назад
While I appreciate Chase Elliott’s honesty, he has a responsibility as the most popular driver to help grow the sport. Dale Jr probably didn’t want to do 70% of the things he did, but that was his burden to bear. Chase needs to bear the burden and step up for the betterment of the sport
@crazyco95
@crazyco95 3 месяца назад
Demanding anyone do something they don't want to do is a bad take. Don't want that failure? Don't bank the success of your business on one person.
@dchawk81
@dchawk81 3 месяца назад
He didn't volunteer to be most popular driver. That's just a dumb poll. He doesn't owe anyone anything based on a poll.
@kurtnielsen6684
@kurtnielsen6684 3 месяца назад
Hill is a cry baby. If he said oh well then that would be different. Now he cries. Not a fan anymore
@KimiWallrus
@KimiWallrus 3 месяца назад
Does he get that Nascar diversity program fundage for being a ginger?
@user-xy1eg3tj8h
@user-xy1eg3tj8h 3 месяца назад
Someone said you guys were some kind of idiots. 😂
@teranceparker4728
@teranceparker4728 3 месяца назад
That Xfinity Series finish was crap team 97 deserve the win not the teams 21 and 17. They battle the lead because they didn't end the race under caution 😞😞😞😞 shows respect is full of shit lately in road courses just the Xfinity Series only. Like I said full of crap no more bump and runs they just piss people off. There should be penilities for that type of crap 😢😢😢😢😢😞😞😞😞😞😞😞☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️😕😕😕😕😕
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