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BMW M2 Competition - DCT vs Manual Comparison 2019 

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We decided it would be a good idea to compare the brilliant BMW M2 Competition in it's manual guise vs the DCT (Auto). It was great jumping straight from my Manual car into Stef's DCT version, it's fair to say both boxes are great and there is no wrong or right choice.
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@jonathanbishop6996
@jonathanbishop6996 5 лет назад
If you watch the vid with captions on, every time the M2 revs up the captions say “[Music]” and “[Applause]” and I couldn’t agree more.
@ali09killuminati
@ali09killuminati 4 года назад
I've had the manual m2 for one year and I'm telling you it's the best one, the connection you have with the car is unbelievable
@jdowg6
@jdowg6 4 года назад
I hate you mate for achieving such success
@HTH88
@HTH88 2 года назад
Encouraging to hear Mizan - thank you. I have ordered an M2C manual and it arrives in 8 weeks (one of the last to be delivered in the world - pretty stoked).
@christmasisawesome9348
@christmasisawesome9348 Год назад
@@HTH88 How do youvlike it so far?
@HTH88
@HTH88 Год назад
@@christmasisawesome9348 Hey mate! Thanks for checking in. Love the car - it’s not only amazing in every way but it’s also a keeper! You put it perfectly - the connection with the car is unbelievable. BMW nailed the formula with this. How is your baby treating you?
@15october91
@15october91 5 лет назад
Moral of the story: The M2 is fun.
@StefABtv
@StefABtv 5 лет назад
15october91 definitely 😂
@xenomorph1317
@xenomorph1317 5 лет назад
15october91 drifts also better then a M3, shorter wheelbase.
@15october91
@15october91 5 лет назад
@@StefABtv LOL
@HarryBradbury
@HarryBradbury 5 лет назад
Love the channel Joe, one of only a handful of car RU-vidrs who produce genuinely intelligent and well thought out content.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 5 лет назад
Cheers Harry, I try to talk sense and share my experiences with everyone 👌
@deanwebb8056
@deanwebb8056 5 лет назад
Bringing smiles to my face again Joe... keep these videos coming! My DCT is due end of March. Fingers crossed, winter will be behind us by then. Great collab with @Stef ABtv - need to do more of this!
@icebreakertech
@icebreakertech 5 лет назад
I am a manual kind of guy but the DCTs are so good these days. Difficult choise, heart says manual, brain says DCT...arrgghhh....luckily I am to poor to even think about making such a decission ;) Your video shows it is not all about numbers but just as much feel.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 5 лет назад
Haha well put! Yeah I'm lucky enough to be able to stretch to the monthlies, what I wouod do without finance I don't know 🤦‍♂️👊
@tma78
@tma78 5 лет назад
The upshift exhaust farting noise of dct is a big reason why I don't like them not worth .2 of a second 0 to 100kph imo. Also moving away from Audi/VW across to bmw because they've dropped manual option from their range. Manual M2 competition will be my next car for sure, one that I'll keep and look into single turbo conversion after 4 to 5 years of ownership. Surely by then there'll be some good development on the motors. Air suspension as well.
@jdowg6
@jdowg6 4 года назад
The pain is real mate and it hurts bad....as long as you are working your way there to suppress the pain.
@Throttle.Monkey
@Throttle.Monkey 3 года назад
DCT - milliseconds Manual - timeless 👌
@StefABtv
@StefABtv 5 лет назад
*haha love this mate. I had such a laugh filming this with you. Mate them roads! So much slip lol!! Great video! That last clip* 😂
@nessuno5403
@nessuno5403 5 лет назад
Your car has the 6 and 4 pistons M brakes upgrade. How did they compare to Joe's standard 4 and 2 pistons setup? Noisy?
@paullockwood7219
@paullockwood7219 5 лет назад
Brilliant stuff guys. Switching to Steph's channel now for Joe's manual. 😉😁
@StefABtv
@StefABtv 5 лет назад
nes suno to be honest we were not driving hard enough to really notice any difference. Other than the obvious reduced brake fade but you would only really notice on a track or very hard driving.
@nessuno5403
@nessuno5403 5 лет назад
@@StefABtv thanks, makes sense!
@olliemorgan974
@olliemorgan974 5 лет назад
Awesome video guys! - Great to see these two compared back to back, really highlights all the subtle differences you may not notice on face value
@NICKFOXTV
@NICKFOXTV 5 лет назад
Cracking job guys, look forward to Stef’s take on it!
@neilbarden9430
@neilbarden9430 5 лет назад
Brilliant pair of videos with Stef's as well. Need to go and find those roads now!
@I2ipper
@I2ipper 5 лет назад
This car is in a whole new league, great video man!
@shanescarlife
@shanescarlife 5 лет назад
Admit it, Joe, you really don't care which is better. You were just looking for an excuse to go for a good Hoon with a mate in a couple of fun cars! Great video. Cheers!
@carl9184
@carl9184 5 лет назад
Another great vid guys! If only every day could be like those 👍
@juniorhemelaer1115
@juniorhemelaer1115 5 лет назад
Absolutely great video, as usual I must say. Wonderful to see you having such fun in the M2C, DCT or manual. Keep 'em coming mate! Now I'm heading to Stefabtv's channel :)
@Patr1ck2332
@Patr1ck2332 5 лет назад
Epic content Joe and nice to see Stef as well!
@SdruhCram
@SdruhCram 5 лет назад
My M2C should be here in a couple of months. Vids like this only make the wait harder!
@m2kev789
@m2kev789 5 лет назад
Great Video Joe and a Great Car in any version!👍😀
@Cloverleaf7642
@Cloverleaf7642 5 лет назад
Quality individual, quality driver, quality opinions. Thanks, Joe.
@Sam-ef9ho
@Sam-ef9ho 5 лет назад
Great video joe! Curious to know how many m140i were sold because of your videos 😀. M2 comps next!
@rodzack
@rodzack 5 лет назад
Ordered a LBB M2C with the Manual! Joe gets it... Keep the great content coming.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 5 лет назад
Haha you know this! Enjoy buddy 👊
@hlf_coder6272
@hlf_coder6272 5 лет назад
Did you receive your M2C yet by chance? I ordered one a couple weeks ago and am curious how long it takes from order to delivery
@mikewibberley2380
@mikewibberley2380 5 лет назад
Great fun video in the brilliant M2s Joe. Just about to watch Stef's version. Cheers! 🖒
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 5 лет назад
Cheers Mike, hope you enjoyed Stef's too mate 👊
@mikewibberley2380
@mikewibberley2380 5 лет назад
Yes saw Stef's vid...also brill! I had manual for my M135i...mega!. Now I have a manual box for my new Porsche. Cheers Joe and keep the videos coming.
@johnmorrison27
@johnmorrison27 5 лет назад
Always brilliant reviews 👍👍👍
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 5 лет назад
Cheers John 👌
@onkgopotseraphela9608
@onkgopotseraphela9608 4 года назад
I’m subed to both of them. Thanks for the great content
@kamilkrait5873
@kamilkrait5873 5 лет назад
Should do DCT/DSG vs ZF. that would be a great video !
@carllynch8798
@carllynch8798 5 лет назад
A great improvement over the oem M2 ! Especially the seats I would have the manual but I would be biased as I’ve never owned a auto. Great vid Joe as always
@RichDunn
@RichDunn 5 лет назад
Damn you Joe Achilles. Because of your videos I got carried away this week and bought an M2 Comp. I was certain I wanted a silver (grey) one with manual box. Then came to my senses and bought a white DCT with carbon wing and mirror pods just for good measure - ha! Still getting used to the settings. Initially it was shouting at me :-D But looks like a great summer for me!
@Tomoyo0827
@Tomoyo0827 3 года назад
I brought a M2C because of him too....BMW should really give him a raise at this point
@RichDunn
@RichDunn 3 года назад
@@Tomoyo0827 They should!
@jamesr8897
@jamesr8897 5 лет назад
Really nice cars, good work both👍🏻
@oldmanjenkins38
@oldmanjenkins38 5 лет назад
Mr Achilles. Unofficial BMW Brand Ambassador. Great hooning. Great roads. Great time. Well done.
@edwardrhodes6284
@edwardrhodes6284 5 лет назад
With regards to the tyres, replaced my PSS for PS4 on my M140. Differences in cold and greasy conditions is night and day
@myporscheadventures
@myporscheadventures 5 лет назад
brilliant comparison 😊
@00international
@00international 5 лет назад
Great therapy for me. I got the DCT and always wondered if I should have got the manual. Looks like it doesn’t matter 😍
@markdhayward
@markdhayward 4 года назад
You guys are the best. So we relations to the DCT versus the manual. I have the DCT in. 2020 M2C but I know whatever choice I could have made, it would have been brilliant. Thanks for the fun.
@benatbenland
@benatbenland 4 года назад
Hello! Another great vid. I dropped you a comment on a vid a few days ago about gearing, turns out I should have watched this one first! The steering feel difference probably is the wheel spacers as you mentioned! They increase your scrub radius, which kind of increases the lever length through which any road inputs through the tyre are felt 👍🏼
@Simon.Field.
@Simon.Field. 5 лет назад
Another great video!! You touched on finance options and purchasing would you be able to go into more detail ok your pcp numbers and the deal that trl came up with?
@thelonious-dx9vi
@thelonious-dx9vi 4 года назад
I chose manual. Awaiting delivery of a 2020 that looks just like these two. I'm excited.
@rejoicerone3176
@rejoicerone3176 5 лет назад
Stopped watching The Grand Tour because ur notification popped up! Mega video as usual especially with them skids! and I'm saying it again, ur so like Chris Harris in the way u explain how cars drive!
@xenomorph1317
@xenomorph1317 5 лет назад
Rejoice Rone i do not agree, Chris Harris is a robot the way he drives sportscars.
@rejoicerone3176
@rejoicerone3176 5 лет назад
@@xenomorph1317 u mean he drives unbelievably well?
@xenomorph1317
@xenomorph1317 5 лет назад
Rejoice Rone yes, i love to see him at work, such control, and every car has other limits.
@egg250
@egg250 5 лет назад
Great video.
@goofiduck5414
@goofiduck5414 5 лет назад
Two happy bmw m2 drivers, what a brilliant car.
@DC5dotty
@DC5dotty 5 лет назад
Nice , joe achileeeees :)
@PovDriveTime
@PovDriveTime 2 года назад
Hey Joe! Love your videos and actually made a jump into a 2021 hockenheim silver M2c manual transmission a couple months ago. I absolutely love the car! I wanted to ask you how you feel about the clutch delay valve with the 1-2 gear, sometimes 1-2-3 jerky/bucking motion when trying to get smooth shifting. I’ve been driving manuals for quite a while and have had a bit of a learning curve only because of that issue. Have you had an issue with that at all? Thanks Joe!
@stevecole1984
@stevecole1984 5 лет назад
Good to see a comparison between manual and DCT on the same model. Will look forward to Stef's take on the manual.
@StefABtv
@StefABtv 5 лет назад
stevecole1984 thanks Steve 🙌
@brucekendall52
@brucekendall52 5 лет назад
Good stuff,thks.
@malcolmscott4150
@malcolmscott4150 5 лет назад
What great rear wheel drive fun - yes best traction with engine above driven wheels or AWD but uncorrupted steering and RWD twitchiness amazing fun
@CMOVlogs
@CMOVlogs 5 лет назад
Love the M6 but actually the M2 is really good fun!
@HarkamalAujla
@HarkamalAujla 5 лет назад
Enjoyable . Fantastic
@jonmilani1976
@jonmilani1976 5 лет назад
Joe, I'd love to see an in-depth review from you about the automatic throttle blipping ("rev match") in the manual transmission. I'm very concerned about this "feature" as I prefer to match revs on my own (to me, that's the most rewarding part of driving a manual transmission car), but I have no first-hand experience with it. The invasiveness of the feature could be determinative of whether I order the manual or the DCT.
@damianor6886
@damianor6886 5 лет назад
Great video guys, brilliant to see sych a direct comparison. Joe and Stef what is the better suspension in both your opinions for spending most of the time on British roads? Cheers
@StefABtv
@StefABtv 5 лет назад
Damian Ciesielski I think joes suspension is a bit stiffer but not back breaking. A little compromise for great looks and a bit more handling performance. Doesn’t compromise ride comfort that much mate
@bulentcyprus9300
@bulentcyprus9300 5 лет назад
Great vdo guys. Need more like this. Both cars awesome Joe . Can the software in the f82 dct be tuned to be less aggressive ? And Joe . A question for you . " if you had around 60k (I'm sure you got around 60m ) 😜 , and there was a choice between an M4 comp and an M4 cs . Which one would you honestly buy if it was mainly to be used @ summertime? Thank you friend. Drive safe .
@LukeBeasto
@LukeBeasto 5 лет назад
You didn’t ask me but ill give you my opinion...the CS is a wicked drivers car!
@HTH88
@HTH88 2 года назад
You've won the lottery having either! Manual preference for me but who cares - these things are brilliant however you get them!
@ulrichhaase7332
@ulrichhaase7332 5 лет назад
Nice Video. Is that BMW M2 Competition with OPF?
@Ganserndorf9411
@Ganserndorf9411 5 лет назад
Just as an FYI, the gear ratios on the 6MT are actually more tightly spaced than on the 7DCT, which is might seem odd because it has one less gear. Both transmissions have the same 1:1 fifth gear ratio, but the DCT has a much shorter 1st gear.
@1970boggy
@1970boggy 5 лет назад
Great comparison Joe Still really have a place in my heart for the M2 however I can get a 991 (2nd hand for 45k). Completely different Car I’d have the Exige S (V6) in a heat beat but the extra tax to the government kills it ! As soon as I have the 2nd property it’s serious car shopping for me. My wife’s M140i SE is not a bad daily 🤪
@TAG247
@TAG247 4 года назад
Mr Boggy not so subtle flex Boggy lad
5 лет назад
4:33 "thin rim for more feel", ooerr missus.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 5 лет назад
Haha that's what I tell all the ladies 😉
@dodo22r
@dodo22r 5 лет назад
Nice video!! If you would doing them slides on old m2 is it in sport plus or traction completely off? Cheers keep up
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 5 лет назад
Cheers man, yeah 90% of the skids were in MDM, or equivilant of sports + in the M2
@tan9640
@tan9640 5 лет назад
Awesome video, just wish it had the alloys your original M2 did
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 5 лет назад
Cheers man, yeah I prefer the original wheels, they're slightly lighter too!
@ess6387
@ess6387 5 лет назад
Joe Achilles plus the concave on the standard wheels look so much better. I chose standard wheels on my manual M4 instead of comp wheels. S55 with a manual for the win. Also get Ricky in to hoon your m2 comp with traction off 😉
@zerotolerancecollective848
@zerotolerancecollective848 4 года назад
would love to know how much and where you got your steering wheel done :) great vid
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 4 года назад
Cheers man! Wheel was done by Jack at Royal steering wheels in Aylesbury, cost around £180 and worth every penny 👌
@gavinkaye4174
@gavinkaye4174 5 лет назад
Gilz, look at me, 1st comment 🤗 (private joke!) ohhh good vid btw Mr A....keep em coming
@gavinkaye4174
@gavinkaye4174 5 лет назад
@@honestreview1043 manual....no contest ☺🤗
@delboy2596
@delboy2596 5 лет назад
I'd be interested in how they compared in heavier traffic situations. Does the DCT creep in traffic like the ZF 8SP does?
@Adam-M1
@Adam-M1 5 лет назад
What other software changes from DD Coding did you have done Joe.
@yapira3d
@yapira3d 5 лет назад
Have you ever driven an e46 m3? I’d like to hear your thoughts.
@s4ms0n1t3
@s4ms0n1t3 5 лет назад
Not wrong about the ps4s in these conditions. Running them on my e46 m3 and I can't belive how well they put the power down and hold the front in sub 7 degree weather!
@jklmnoable
@jklmnoable 5 лет назад
M Power!
@matthewcoleman8267
@matthewcoleman8267 5 лет назад
I love my DCT M2C but I do sometimes wonder if the manual would be more fun. The main advantage for the DCT for me is pulling away from a standing start. Was that a GoPro mount that failed at the end? I was just about to buy one lol
@StefABtv
@StefABtv 5 лет назад
Matthew Coleman lol, it was but the mount probably picked up dirt from being moved around the car. Need to make sure they are always clean. I’ve had them fall off a couple of times this time of year 😂
@cw205mi16
@cw205mi16 5 лет назад
If the manual shift was good it would be a difficult decision, but the shift is both wobbly and notchy.
@TheMystro1971
@TheMystro1971 5 лет назад
This is THE “M” car to own.
@mikemellon80
@mikemellon80 Месяц назад
Is there a pure manual mode one these. I’ve watched 4-5 explanations and it’s not clear. Is there a mode where it won’t shift for you?
@cuthberter
@cuthberter 5 лет назад
Steering delicacy could be due to heavier brake components.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 5 лет назад
Good point... Although I noticed a massive change on mine when I had it fitted
@jaryfelice1020
@jaryfelice1020 5 лет назад
Was it slippery by chance as the m5 comp was faaaast☺️??
@tibhen8473
@tibhen8473 3 года назад
Do you know how mych torque the manual transmission can take? i am thinking to do a stage one on my m2c...
@Jaylyons1
@Jaylyons1 4 года назад
Doesn't seem to be much of a comparison of the DCT vs Manual. It's more his car vs the press car. Don't really care about the wheel, brakes, lower ride height, etc. Was more interested in what the title specified... the manual vs the auto. Only real take away from this is the auto is 600rpm lower on the highway. Meh.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 4 года назад
Have a glorious weekend 😘
@csongordudas8745
@csongordudas8745 5 лет назад
Joe, when you fun on roads, whick dsc setting used? Completely off?
@TAG247
@TAG247 4 года назад
Says in vid: MDM on
@alians1978
@alians1978 3 года назад
Was it slippery out there? I wish you mentioned that
@xq233
@xq233 5 лет назад
It's the differences in the suspension that make the steering more sensitive. Not the steering wheel.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 5 лет назад
Feel not sensitivity. I got my wheel changed while my car was on standard suspension and it immediately added more feel.
@paulwatson1757
@paulwatson1757 5 лет назад
Joe any chance you could review a normal 1 series like a 118 or 120 the M2 is out of my price range
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 5 лет назад
I plan to do that with the new generation end of this year hopefully 👌
@weiguchickenburger920
@weiguchickenburger920 5 лет назад
Are there any mechanically feeling short shift kits available for the M2 Comp?
@rejoicerone3176
@rejoicerone3176 5 лет назад
A short shift kit wud be a great upgrade!
@Jb001jb
@Jb001jb 5 лет назад
Yes, check out www.laptime-performance.de/shop/bmw-m2-f87/motor-antriebstechnik/ You can even order one with alcantara, polarblue stitching shifterknob
@Ivan_1986
@Ivan_1986 5 лет назад
jb001 wow, thats one ugly shifter
@stu4181
@stu4181 4 года назад
Cant understand why people say Joe is under the thumb of BMW - he just stated Porsche are the best! I think the M2 comp looks immense but why is it so heavy!
@fang75429
@fang75429 5 лет назад
6th in each gearbox is about the same. Just don't go into 7th in the DCT and it'll feel the same :)
@steffydog
@steffydog 5 лет назад
Was it slippery? 🤣😂🏁🎉👍
@xenomorph1317
@xenomorph1317 5 лет назад
Next year i will go from an F80 M3 to a I3s or 330e. Thumbs up for those who think im crazy and not smart 😜
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 5 лет назад
Wish I could give you ten thumbs up 😉
@xenomorph1317
@xenomorph1317 5 лет назад
Joe Achilles i fear many will do it for you 😜 I had my fun, time to calm down, be a bit more ecological and save tons of money in the proces👍🏻 (the smart part) I don't know the driving costs in youre country, but an M3 yearly costs me about 8800€ all in. A 330e or I3s about 1300€ yearly. Do the math over a period of 10 years 😉
@xenomorph1317
@xenomorph1317 5 лет назад
User 1888 Switzerland is a nice place to be. Im from Belgium. Our inscurance is highly influenced by how old you are and how many accidents you made at your own fault. Our inscurance rating goes from 10+ untill -2 which is the lowest on our inscurance agency. Im 41 years old and i am at -2 and did not have an accident for at least 10 years. If you are the age of 20 and have a accident yearly, then you can triple the amount of insurancy money easy. To drive such a sportscar in our country you need to be of age, hard working man keeping accidents low, or a rich kid that gets it from drugmoney or mommy and daddy that doesn't know the real value of the car and money. I can say i love my M3 because in our country many think it is for rich people which is not true , also loved my M135i and M140i xdrive and worked hard for it to get it, i can say i had it and no one can take that away from me, but also time to slow down and go for a I3s and save me yearly 7400€ 😉👍🏻
@HexlGaming
@HexlGaming 3 года назад
I think I'd go with the more purist modern car; manual, good tires, low, low seating, good suspension, lots of power, no ESP (in performance driving situations) etc..
@HexlGaming
@HexlGaming 3 года назад
Although a DCT is logically thinking just better at everything, so Idk 😐
@box.10
@box.10 5 лет назад
I must have watched in reverse order but both extremely good. No. Excellent. My M2C DCT is being delivered on 27/6. Cant wait.....anyone want a low mileage Evoque 2.0 TD Autobiography? Jan 2017 13700 mls Silicon Silver
@AL-to4ro
@AL-to4ro 4 года назад
I’m trying to decide between a M240i with the manual or the DCT...the first thing I’ll do with the manual is put a limited slip diff on it so maybe it’s smarter just to buy the DCT M240i xDrive...
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 4 года назад
The M240i uses a ZF 8 speed Auto, not the DCT. Depends what you want, RWD with a LSD will be most enjoyable, xDrive (not available in the UK) will be a great all year round car, especially with winters on during the cold months 👌
@semperf1dude
@semperf1dude 4 года назад
is it slippery outside?
@tan9640
@tan9640 5 лет назад
Windsurfing what kind of MPG difference you see between the manual and the DCT
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 5 лет назад
Good question, I wouod say around 10% on the combined 👊
@TropiQz
@TropiQz 5 лет назад
@@JoeAchilles1 10% more in the manual?
@01.k.p
@01.k.p 5 лет назад
@@TropiQz I would assume for the dct since it has more gears and changes more often. My m4 manual sits at like 3.5k at freeway speeds I would think a extra gear would help alot with fuel economy
@potion7410
@potion7410 5 лет назад
does anyone know if he has the aftermarket steering wheel from bmw or is it from another brand? I’ll be looking for a skinnier wheel as well
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 5 лет назад
It's from a company called royal steering wheels in Aylesbury,
@rkassassinsrk4662
@rkassassinsrk4662 4 года назад
So is dct mean automatic or no
@markd8799
@markd8799 5 лет назад
So you already knew what the Dct was like. 🤔
@rembo183
@rembo183 4 года назад
How many cars do you have? (You refer to your several cars...)
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 4 года назад
My work car 7 series (I'm a chauffeur) and my M2. I'm probably refering to all the press cars I get throughout the year...
@brandonfromlondonuk3484
@brandonfromlondonuk3484 Год назад
IF CHRIS HARRIS SAYS GET A MANUAL ,,,,,,,, YOU GET A MANUAL !
@r129r16pfl
@r129r16pfl 5 лет назад
1550kg :( why such a small car is so damn heavy? Bik brake upgrade, I think it's a downside, because you can't fit R18 wheels, + the regular brakes can easily outperform bbk, by just fiting a racing pads/fluid
@pokest225
@pokest225 5 лет назад
Body reinforcements, for safety and rigidity. Big heavy engine, rear drive axles and diff.... Regarding the big brake kit, it's a matter of finding the right wheel model. Sure there's a 18" wheel that fits. In other cars with bbk's is doable.
@MeijaJanis
@MeijaJanis 5 лет назад
you talk so much about other stuff we do not care, we care only about dct vs manual
@fernandokaadou97
@fernandokaadou97 4 года назад
The manual M2 is way better
@paulhumphreys8238
@paulhumphreys8238 5 лет назад
BMW don’t make a decent manual box full stop...
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 5 лет назад
Have you tried a M2 Comp in manual? Mine is brilliant full stop....
@shikarbabulall3897
@shikarbabulall3897 3 года назад
A Porsche better than a Ferrari?
@shikarbabulall3897
@shikarbabulall3897 3 года назад
The manual looks like more of a mans car!
@gunterjoachimsohrich1328
@gunterjoachimsohrich1328 3 года назад
Talking, talking and of course rambling not unlike a afternoon cupcake Session in a retirement home! No Action, just boring monologs instead of diverting entertainement!
@gw7624
@gw7624 5 лет назад
Wow, what a great hairline.
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