Thank you for this Nick, much appreciated as a prospective GS buyer. My brother was a customer of Mike Wheeler’s back in your time there, he never owned a car, rode motorcycles seven days a week from 16 till his seventies clocking up terrific mileages, I remember seeing 114,000 on one of his bikes.
Thanks Nick. I am in the same position as you. Have come back to motorcycling after 30 years away. Eased back into it on a small bike but now seriously looking at a R1250GS and doing my research at the moment. Your videos have been most helpful.
This is an outstanding video, Nick. Thank you for sharing your knowledge...from a perspective of a mechanically aware rider. The cost breakdown and pros/cons were very insightful. Keep up the great videos.
Nice job Nick - very thorough and analytical. I agree 100% on weather protection. We dont get quite so much rain here in Aus but 2 years of 1200GS ownership gives me enough data to allow me to concur. I'm constantly amazed how dry I remain even when not wearing rain gear.
I’mmm, I’ve got a 2015 gstb, two weeks off the end of warranty I had it booked in for free end of check. Well you couldn’t Believe what was to follow. 23 months old !! new gear box, new clutch, rear wheel bearing, new starting motor and handle bar switching all done under warranty, thank god I booked it in, but from that day to this I’ve never heard a word from the dealer or bmw it’s as i the bike never existed. So six years down the line Ive not done a lot of miles 7000 so with the help of your videos I’m doing my own services, lost all convenience in bmw.
Did they do the work?? That seems a huge amount of things wrong. I have a friend with 110,000 miles and no real issues in all that time. Often the quality of the dealer compliments the bmw brand. So far my dealer has been great although we have had some issues for sure, but nothing like that list!
Nick your clips have been great been watching you for a few months now you have great advice and products for your bike enjoy watching it all. I just got my 2021 triple black two days ago and thanks to you I've got some great ideas to set up my bike. Thanks mate Macca
Found this very useful, thanks. Just test ridden a 1250GS TE Exclusive, loved it and now speaking with dealer about purchase etc. Have the other videos lined up when it comes to fitting extras.
Wow! very in-depth review ....thank you.. that's what I love about your channel every T crossed every i dotted. Thank you again my friend across the pond.
Nick, I'm still catching up on your videos - completely out of sequence but no matter. GSA still planned for March New year (2023) - Triple Black, Factory Lowered - I won't be 'off roading' as such and want to be able to plant both feet on the ground and be confident when riding with wife as pillion. Put together list of 'Accessories' to be purchased - Birthday / Christmas presents (Family notified), so just to say 'Thank You' for your commentary, views, and giving my wife and I the pleasure to watch.
Hi Martin. I love the triple black colourway. I loved my Kalamata GSA but the triple black was the only one I’d have swap it for. Just a note with the lowered bike having seen you comment on the Wunderlich toolbox. Be aware that may not be suitable for the lowered bike as I know in extreme circumstances off-road it can contact the splash guard. Since the video they are now marking it with a warning 👍🏻 you’re in for a treat with the GS though. Enjoy
Enjoyed the video. Was surfing RU-vid looking for bikes like yours . Been riding a VStrom for the last 7 years and really love it . It’s been great to me . Only tires ,service,and a stator have needed to b done on it . I am going to go look and ride a bike like yours I’m certain I’ll love it and trade my VStrom in for it . I never go off road except on actual dirt bikes for fun but have no intent on taking a heavy bike off road so a bike like yours vs GSA is I think perfect for me. Videos like yours have been very helpful in clarifying my decision. Keep up the good work
Thanks Mark. I don't think you'll be disappointed with either a GS or a GSA. Many are critical of them, but that's often the case when something is extremely good. It has it's faults for sure and stuff that frustrates, but overall it's a superb vehicle and sales every year show that. Ride safe
Great video Nick. I have just got a 1200GS TE LC (couldn’t quite stretch to the 1250) but I’m really very happy with it. The dynamics of the bike are fantastic and I could echo much of what you said in your video. Looking forward to a great years riding.
Hello Nick, another great detailed video. You helped me out with the installation of the innovv k2 only GS a few weeks ago. Must say it works great and I'm very happy with it. I purched it after seeing your video. I also referred to your front wheel removal video a few days ago. Your very thorough and the video instruction are easy to follow. Thanks again for your help and look forward to seeing more. Would be very intrested to watch your Scotland video. I absolutely fell in love with the west coast after only discovering a few years ago. Steve.
Stevie Paynter thanks Steve. Glad stuff helped. Makes it worthwhile. I’m getting complaints from the lads on the time I’m taking to get the video to them but once I have I may adapt it for RU-vid. Ride safe
On my third GS LC, a GSA 1250 Exclusive, agree with your comments. Screen issues solved by fitting a Puig Touring, always fit a MudSling and a Denali horn. Got the Givi tank bag too, love it as it’s not too big. Otherwise a superb all rounder and by far the best bike I’ve ever owned for UK and European riding...here in Northumberland a very popular bike.
Chukky aka Ian thanks for commenting Ian. I’ve looked at screens now and thinking of either the MRA vario or Puig. Think if I fit risers (which I hope may fix ‘slouching’), then I sense I may need it. Ride safe
Nick Hodge I fitted Rox risers which bring back the bars, I’m only 5’9” with spine issues so these have made a big difference. Luggage wise I use Bumot panniers and top box fitted straight to the OEM racks, much better than the OEM panniers. I used Varios on my standard GSs, good but too small for touring...
Been thinking of getting one. Have seen many positive comments on the bike everywhere. I'm convinced. Just need to get the wife convinced as I already own 2 bikes which I use daily. Good video. Well done.
Thanks for a very interesting and thorough review, Nick. My own ownership experience (7k miles since June 2019 on a 1250GS TE Exclusive) echoes most of what you have said, although so far, I am still running the original tyres (Anakee Adventure) and have not yet had the second service. My bike has had two issues - an error message which resulted in the dealer changing the fuel pump, although no fault was apparent while riding the bike - and a faulty Nav VI which was swapped without any problem. I have the "comfort seat" as it was already on the bike. It's very comfortable but I can't really say whether or not it's more comfortable than standard.... I have also swapped the screen on my bike to an MRA Vario screen. When I first got the bike I ran it with the seat in low/low setting and the screen was fine. After a long stint I found my legs aching a bit so I lifted the seat to high/high which gives a little more room between hips and knees. This solved the leg issue but meant that the screen was directing slightly turbulent air to the top of my helmet. The MRA screen has solved that and I think it looks fine on the bike. I also added some Givi hand protector extensions for a little more weather protection. Here's my bike - as of yesterday in the Peak District - i.postimg.cc/LstgYqM9/IMG-5356.jpg I'm now thinking of adding the Denali lights/horn/cansmart as my next project. Thanks again for the video.
Richard, wow, thanks for the great feedback. I will look at the screen for sure. One thing I may do on long multi-day rides is alter the seat occasionally as that may help comfort still further. although i do find myself rolling into the tank with low front, high rear. I too will look at slightly larger hand protection and my friend has the givi ones I think. Don't think you will regret the Denali upgrade, your wallet however will. Ride safe
Just spotted that the front cowling is different on the Exclusive from mine. the silver bit with GS1250 on mine is fixed differently, is a different shape, with no 'badge'. Learn something every day ;)
Richard D Hi Richard and Nick, many thanks for the video and the comments. I totally agree with Richard regarding the MRA Vario screen; I put it on a GS that I had over three years ago and transferred it to a GSA and onto my 1250 GSA HP that I’ve just purchased. It’s a brilliant bit of kit allowing me to ride with visor up in the summer. I also have the Givi hand guard extenders that again are worth having. I’ve just fitted an HP engraved headlight protector for £19 that also looks very good and could potentially save a lot of money. Ride safe gents. Cheers, Andy
Thanks for the great review. Torn between the GS and Tiger 1200 XRT. XRT currently has free luggage/bags/fender extender/ headlight cover and lower crash bars as a promo which is grat value. Looks like they are going to change the model! Missing from GS in my opinion are backlit switches and heated seats which are standard on the Tiger. I just love the look of the 1250 exclusive so the heart may win over the head! Thanks for posting
Bri I’m biased of course, but there’s a reason the GS wins certainly European sales each year by a mile. I’m a gadget man so get the illuminated switches, but honestly I never really look at the switches. It’s a ‘muscle memory’ thing. Heated seat? I’m a warm soul and rarely use the heated grips and heated seats in the car make me feel slightly weird! My mate Sean however, seems to have heated grips on at 30 degrees!!! You must make your mind up and I’ve never ridden the Tiger but you’ll love the GS
Hi Nick enjoyed the video, I too have a 1250 GS Exclusive version, and I have to agree totally with your version of the pro's and cons of ownership, however, I really love this bike!! I did order mine with comfort seats and find them very good and when ordered as a factory option are a reasonable price. I have changed the screen on mine to a Puig touring screen, the difference was amazing and increased my pleasure in riding this bike probably the best accessory I put on mine!! I also agree totally about the inner bags. Love the detail on the running costs, it's surprising how it all mounts up.
Thanks for the comments Peter, I will take a look at the screen. I'm only annoyed at the comfort seat truly as I would then be 'fully loaded'. You may have heard me hint at the 25mm risers for the handlebars. I find myself 'stooping' over on long rides and have to tell myself to SIT UP! I think if that works out, at 6ft 1in, the screen will become even more relevant. Ride safe
What a professional, well planned, well thought through and well executed review of the R1250GS TE. It's a few years old now, but perfect for me as I've just bought my first GS, a 2019 R1250GS TE in cosmic blue with 24k miles on the clock. If you still own your GS as reviewed, I'd be very interested to get your updated thoughts. Thank you for your quality material.
No worries. Glad you enjoyed it. I’ve not got it still and have been through an adventure and now a K1600. I would highly recommend any of the GS’s. For me I preferred the GSA but that was personal around further road presence, top loading panniers and carrying half of Saudis Arabia’s petrol production on board. Granted it was heavier but for my use perfect. 👍🏻
Thanks for your reply Nick. Much appreciated. A mate of mine has bought the GSA, I bought the GS TE, but it's been kitted out with pretty much what you get on the Adventure with the crash bars and panniers. So it too has a lot of road presence. We're planning a road trip from the south of England into northern Spain to ride the Pyrenees in the Spring. We think we've invested in good tools for the job 👍
@@benenden360 perfect bike for road trips for sure. I’ve done the Pyrenees on the adventure, Scotland and wales on the GS (covid restricted), Germany on the adventure and last year Norkapp (Top of Norway) and the Pyrenees (again) on the K1600. You’ll never tire of the Pyrenees for sure 👍🏻
Hi NickI would totally concur with most of what you said and an excellent review. On the mudsling the last bit of that word "sling" is the most apt as in sling it in the bin a totally useless product. I had one on my current 2018 GS Rallye my wife still got covered in crud and when I looked closer it was rubbing on the swing arm especially when in road mode. I bought a hugger for £29 from China and works a treat and my wife has been kept clean no matter what the weather.
RMG that’s interesting. I find it still splashed around but my biggest fear was the shock absorber which is an expensive bit of kit not accustomed to crud. I am going to look at a hugger for sure though as actually, whatever else they look quite good
Hello Nick, well here I am 11 months after my initial comment and I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on a GS 1250. I'm still on the fence on the GS or GSA, but I got a few more months...well hopefully after COVID since I have to fly in to Germany to pick it up.. I'm sure I'll settle on the GSA just because it comes with all the bells and whistles. Thanks for all your videos, I'm enjoying the reviews.
That’s great news. We’re all wishing Covid goodbye. I’m desperate to get abroad. Either the GS or GSA will be wonderful. I love my Adventure but I also miss ‘Bertha’ 👍🏻
If you are planning riding in the winter, I can thoroughly recommend the Givi hand guard extenders, which deflect significantly more cold wet air from your hands than the small BMG hand guards. They cost around £80 for a pair.
Yep, I agree for sure. I try to avoid rain (don't really feel too much cold), but it's tough all the time. I will get up to M/C Live at NEC this month I hope and have maybe a few investments to make. Thanks for commenting
Hi Nick cracking video your so right about being seen and heard while on your bike the Denali Lights are a must along with the Soundbomb Horn maybe in your next video you might demo these two vital additions you have mounted on your GS1250 look forward to more videos take care.
For extra protection at the front, you can fit the GSA screen which is larger, the location of the torx bolts are in the same position. I also fitted a rear wheel hugger to my 1200, it works perfectly on protecting the suspension strut ect. 👍
I bought the MRA vario screen (Like TMF has) and it made a big difference with wind noise. The GS doesn't suffer too bad with wind noise anyway, but the MRA just seems to take it down a notch further. So quiet. Can't recommend it enough and I think it looks great too.
I’ve just got one about 3 weeks ago and I love it I’m in Australia and I had the first service in two days of ownership 1000km I Enjoyed your video and I to have a Hamburger with the lot mines black with gold pin stripes and we fitted the gold wheels from a HP GSA
chocswan I was in Australia when the GS launched. I’d maybe had mine a few weeks and the dealer I spoke to in Melbourne was going to see the announcement that week. Ride safe
Hello Nick, found your channel by chance, and like you have been riding an R1200 GS but for three years , will be taking delivery of a new R1250 Exclusive ready for the first March 2020, blimey I am getting old now, 73 April 2020, but still fit and able to carry on motorcycling, been a biker since 1965, great video, I have subscribed and the bell is waiting to call me back to see what is happening, Have a great Christmas and a happy and healthy new year, look forward to becoming friends and who knows meet up one day?
Had my R1250GSA Since March this year and I’ve covered nearly 9000 miles that included a week in Austria in June , I absolutely love this bike my bike is the HP version
stuart clark hi Stuart and thanks for commenting. The HP is a great looking bike and that’s some mileage in 6 months. If I changed I would consider the GSA for the greater range and even better ‘presence’ Ride safe
Thanks Nick. Very comprehensive video. It’s gives an excellent overview of the true cost. These are not cheap bikes and it is not a cheap hobby at this level, but the bikes are so great you find the cash somehow. For completeness, depreciation is a factor, but, in my experience, these bike fare very well in the longer term; however with the high price from new, the early hit is high. I have a 2012 R1200GS Rallye, last of the oil cooled bikes, that I have have had for 5 years. I am very tempted by the new one, but fond of the old one. The older bike suffers very little depreciation, but the new one is just so much better you start thinking “what the heck”. Thanks also for calling out the accessories. Of all of those things, the engine bars are totally essential and the panniers bags too. There are a number of alternative manufacturers of the panniers bags and the price can be a bit lower. All good stuff. Thanks.
Derek Hastings thanks for commenting Derek. For sure the older they get the less that stand you after all the fun is factored in. I think it’s why so many have ‘collections’. My friend just bought a GS1250 after a 2008 Triumph Rocket. It was worth about £5k to BMW but more to him, so he’s kept it. Only live once!! Ride safe
Good honest review - Had mine for a year too and agree on most points. No regrets, cracking bike. Never understood why the SOS button only works on cellular network - think adventure locations... really should have been satellite for another £100. I wouldn't have got it and just got a SPOT.
When I first got my old 1200 which had it and the TFT it used to launch a warning every time it went out of signal which was slightly disconcerting. Glad you are enjoying the 1250. Wish I could ride mine. Maybe soon 🤞🏻
Thanks for the very informative information. I'm currently riding a Honda Goldwing and a ZZR1400, but the BMW R1250GS is calling me lol. Thanks for sharing.
Thought the gold wing is a couch on two wheels and a GREAT bike I love my 1250 gs all in one bike, some quirk but would wouldn't never be with out GS...I will always have one!!
Glenn S evening Glenn. I agree. I’ve toyed with upping to maybe a K1600, but after all said and done I’m back looking at GSA for the trivial range reason. The GS is a superb all-rounder and if you disagree? ... I suspect you’ve not ridden one?
The GSA is AWESOME! But I figured (lol) my butt is ready for a break after 2hrs of riding.. BMW just figured it out and I believe will always be the leader in this class of bike. It just fits everything I need!. And after my 19 1250gs has its first scratch it will see more off-road here in Tennessee.
I agree about the additional items that should be included at no extra cost, I would add to the list, heated seat, electric screen, illuminated switch gear and tilting tft screen. BMW must make a fortune on these bikes, not to mention the requirement to have £1m show rooms which we pay for in the long run.
Jean Jacques That’s an interesting list. I’ve not found a need for the tilting TFT and heated seats in cars are not something I’m fond of so not sure I would be on a bike???? Thanks for viewing and commenting and ride safe
Nick Hodge many thanks, interesting assessment of bike, warts and all. Have you used the heated grips, heated seat just as useful, though I admit finger tips may remain cold even with heated grips. Perhaps heated clothing the way to go in the winter months.
Jean Jacques I’m lucky that I don’t have a cold core. I rarely use the heated grips and have no heated clothing. Maybe I’m too much of a fair weather motorcyclist too?
Hello Nick, hello from New York! really enjoying the channel, I ride an Electra Glide but have always loved the BMW bikes for years. I have been interested in the GS so your videos are incredibly informative. Hope someday to add one to the garage (once the Harley is paid for 😉). Great work and thanks for the great content.
Hi Nick:Thx for the info. In a review however I would expect a bit more about handling, engine (camshifting?), suspension,corneringABS,throttle and how they are linked, quickshifter instead of side issues.Maybe a good idea to put that in the title: like"Review r1250gs accesoires" PS:Always on guard if crossing other bikes, if they don`t use the opposite (my) lane cornering, like the drivers in this video @11:07.(not talking about your passing manouver). Even if there is nothing in sight, it`s a very bad habbit .At these very moderate speeds and wide corners , there was no need at all, it actually never is. But as a accesoires review interesting, grtz and have a fun ride.
Thanks for the comments and critique Tony. The shots and specifically the one you refer to was on our 2019 tour to Scotland. The camera is the front mounted INNOVV camera mounted below the front beak. This gives you a very low view of the road ahead. I can assure you we can and could see for a very long way. Equally all of us are connected by intercom. I take your point of course but conditioned allowed some fun and the view was better than perceived from that camera 👍🏻
Well I no longer have the GS but it’s a brilliant bike. I preferred my GS Adventure but that was personal. I love the R18 but definitely a second bike for bimbling locally on sunny days 👍🏻
Love these bikes. Particularly the GS Adventure. It is well known these bikes will be used 80%+ on the super slab. As such, I 100% agree with you on the pitiful horn. This is a safety item and BMW is all about safety. BMW could have easily used the horn off their K1600 series bikes. These are Denali Sound Bomb equals. An electric windscreen would also be a great option. The other elements you mentioned in the fit & fit and finish comments, I would also also concur. Nice work here Mate! Much appreciate the value you bring to our motorcycling community. Ride safe and ride often.
The Denalli D4 are a great option, but below the beak they don´t look too great. Try them below on the engine guard. I have mine there, they work as well as on the top and (at least to me) the bike looks prettier. Another idea: try the Denali rear brake lights. These ones do make you stand out for those that come from behind.
Ricardo Fernandes Silva thanks Ricardo. I have some D2’s destined for engine bars. I may look at rear lights but currently using that circuit in the CanSmart for my Innovv Cameras
Gosh! Was just going to watch a few minutes but enjoyed the video so much that I had to keep watching till the end! Bought a GS, 2010 last May. It obviously doesn't have all the functions that yours does but it looks like new and I love it nevertheless. 😊 The Givi tank case is interesting. Isn't there a risk it will scratch the tank? Thank you v. much f. lovely video and best regards from Sweden 🇸🇪
Thanks for commenting. Glad you enjoyed it. The Givi bag sits on a bracket above the tank so no danger of scratching when in place, of course you could drop it clipping on and off for fuelling. There’s a specific video I did on fitting it on the channel. Stay safe
Thanks for the useful video Nick. I am also about to return to motorcycling following a long absence and a used 1200GS TE will be my intended purchase. Great information on the accessories purchased and I also watched with interest your other video regarding the Vario pannier system and liners. Keep up the good work. Richard.
Thanks Richard and ride safe. Not sure your gap but mine was over 35 years. More cars, many doing idiotic things, road conditions generally *much* worse. Everything about bike *much* better though (Tyres, Brakes, Handling, Electronics). Enjoy
Nick Hodge - 20 year absence in my case. Long enough for road conditions to have changed dramatically. Booked some refresher training with my local BMW school. Thought that was wise.
Nick it was very long video but somehow I have managed to finish almost like 25-26 mins. It was really enlightening video I liked it. I think it would be much interesting if u put much more video footage while riding to the explanation videos. By the way i do not have r1250gs. Thumbs up
Hi Nick I fitted the Adventure screen on my GS, what a difference it's made especialy on the Motorways. I also fitted the screen support brackets, made the screen much more stable.
Keith Simpson Keith. Thanks for joining the debate with your comments. I think I’m going to get one, just toying with three options (MRA vario, Puig and GSA)
@@nickhodgeUK The MRA vario is much better than the GS stock screen. The Puig is way too tall even on the lowest setting. I ride with four GS riders that have had these screens but they have got the GSA screens now. The screen support brackets I would say are a must.
Another great vid. I agree about the frame plugs, mud slinger ect. Also my oil light is the same. Only seen it say ok once. I've got the 1250 ADV TE Exclusive. Done almost 2k on it now. I think they should of back lit the switch gear & maybe heated seats. I love it though. I also fitted Denali's. I went for D7's & a sound bomb. I had to have a new fuel cap/flap last week. vid on my channel. I also bought inner bags. Just got them today. Keep up the good work with the vids Nick..
I would agree 100% with your comments about a lack of protection on the GS and find it grates a bit to then have to spend hundreds of pounds adding bits on. I've also got Touratech hand guard extensions which help keep your hands warmer and drier plus a crud catcher to stop the bottom of the engine getting plastered. I went down the hexezecan route and have LED auxiliary lights and a mini sound bomb horn (and left the original on so together they are loud enough for me) I'm actually thinking of a 1250 RS at the moment as having had 2 GS TEs now I can't really warrant swapping my 67 plate GS for what is apart from the engine the same bike. I thought your cost breakdown was very extensive...just don't show your wife and even more important don't include depreciation as that's a real eye watering figure. When your insurance is due check out thebikeinsurer website as I've both got my insurance through them and used the renewal quote to beat my existing insurer down too. Great video by the way😉
adrianbarrie13 thanks for the detailed comments Adrian. Hoping to do a video in the new year with eBay sourced equivalents of mudslinger et el on a mates GS. Watch this space. I had a 1200 for a few months. You’ll be surprised how different then fine feels I think
Glad to see you back doing videos it was a great in depth review ,it was bad luck on that speeding ticket looking forward to seeing some more videos thanks tony👍
Thanks Tony. It was, I was 'tail-end Charlie' in a group of 4 and we got separated. I had no wish to 'speed' I just caught them up and was slowing to under the speed limit before I even saw him. He even had the nerve to tell me he was a motorcyclist and that was a 'danger of being tail-end Charlie'. Hey ho, I broke the law, just bites a little when there's no real intention or danger. over it (NOT) :)
You’ll love it Damien. Don’t rush it, roads are busier so theirs more idiots but the bikes are so much safer. Brakes, handling, tech, etc. Ride safe 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Thanks Nick. I had an R100RS as my first motorcycle in 1978. Have not ridden since '81, but have had three days at BMW Rider Training which was an incredible experience. I feel many of the things you discussed in your clip regarding machine presence, visibility and other safety related considerations. Coincidentally I was at North Oxford Motorrrad on Sunday and met Josh.
Great review Nick, (only just seen this, subscribed now) very good watch, thanks for posting, i’m thinking of part ex-ing my Yamaha Tracer 900 for a 1250 👍
Nice detailed video and I have to agree with most of what you say. I've had my 1250 Exclusive since Feb 2019 (my first ever GS) and its done about 10000 + having been to Sweden/Norway and recently Spain. I've done a wrap on the panniers and top box just to give them the same colour scheme as the bike, and for a bit more scratch protection. Like you I've paid out for a lot of extras. Regarding weather protection, i find it very good with the standard screen (I'm 5' 7") in the high position. Not as fully protective as my old RT which kept me 90% dry even in heavy rain. Re the rear tyre, mines on 10000 miles from new and still have lots of tread on it (Bridgestone A41) which i find amazing. Front tyre changed at 8000.
Mike Dignum Mike. Thanks for the comment. I thought my mileage was pretty good but there are a few commenting with higher. I’m impressed and glad to hear most of my findings are matched. Wrap is interesting. Where do you get that? Ride safe
@@nickhodgeUK The wrap I got on e-bay and shipped over from Italy, but i have heard of some dealers that have the different wraps. Mine cost around £37 and a bought a headlight guard at the same time (clear acrylic) for £18.
Hi Nick ! I‘m from Austria and owned the previous generation LC 1200 Rallye. My new one, an 1250GSA will arrive at the dealer in February:) Yesterday i stumbled over a bunch of videoclips on youtube about tickeling, loud noise coming from the cylinderheads. My BMW technican, a very trustworthy, professional one, told me the 1250 Motor sounds a bit louder wenn its warm. He also said that the new motor has viewer issius than the first ones from the 1200LC had, only one software update was releast. Did you hear about that „noise problem“ ? Some say they have given then bike back to the dealer.....
Kilometer Fresser ho from Austria and welcome. Nope. Heard nothing about more noise at all and certainly no one giving bike back!!! I’ve only seen positive comments about the 1250 motor and mine has been very good, smoother and more grunt. So far. It’s superb. I think you are in for a treat and although you likely took a test ride, some considerable differences from an original 1200LC. My friend has the last air cooled GS1200 and he’s staggered the difference I have heard of people changing tyres as they were very loud but that’s personal choice and many people follow brands. Ride safe
just about to take delivery of an R1250GSA-so an enjoyable review, thank you, which makes me feel good about my decision! Would like to point out though, as I was paying attention..your pannier liners were a present from your wife, so you shouldn't really count those towards the spend on the bike, and you can probably spend another £237.50 (man maths..) :-)
Thank you for such a detailed and profound review of your experience with the bike, Nick. Could you please elaborate on the vario top case in particular and the whole luggage setup in general? Things you like/dislike about it and how does it work for the two up riding. Much appreciate.
Mykyta Bieliakov Hi Mykyta. Maybe I will do a video but for the time being the only downside I see with them are the silver bits are only decoration and easily scratched but I guess that’s luggage. The top box, when expanded will take my full-face helmet and a pannier, expanded will take a pillion one. In fact if you ride out empty you can probably fit most of two people’s riding gear in. They are water-tight so far and easy to remove and replace (once you have the hang) are keyed alike using the bike key. All in all expensive, but worth the money I believe. Aesthetically I prefer the aluminium boxes fitted to most GSAs but they do not have the expand/contract feature of the varios so are full-size at all times. The top box has a great pad for passenger comfort and other than mounting, dismounting maybe they have no affect on a pillion. Hope that helps. Ride safe
Zunaid Kajee Hi Zunaid. It was wrapped up in my 2nd service video. Not so much a review as a short ride and a few comments. It too is a fine bike but much lower than the GS but felt almost electric with the six cylinders. Thanks for the compliment and ride safe too
@@nickhodgeUK A great review. I Had my 1600 Bahnstormer 6 years. What an effortless tourer that was, but a bugger to shift in and out of our garage on the sloping drive ! I have a Tiger 1200 now for touring but just bought a BMW R1250R. What a lovely sweet engine.
Ian Rodie Hi Ian. It is a nice and for such a lump, smooth engine and the weight being low down helps with handling too. Hopefully that transfers the the R too?? I have a constant battle with my bike as my entire yard as you can see is gravel. Eek!! Ride safe
Bravo pour vos vidéos, claires et précises ! votre bilan au bout d'un an intéressant, ainsi que votre avis les + et - .... on attend la vidéo de votre voyage en Ecosse .... après une KTM1290 SAS j'attends ma R1250GS mais le Covid-19 me la retarde un peu .... à bientôt ...
merci pour le commentaire c'est une honte que nous devons tous attendre juste pour utiliser nos motos, mais nous devons. J'ai une vidéo «privée» pour les personnes qui y sont allées, mais elle dure 52 minutes. L'Ecosse était vraiment merveilleuse cependant. rester en sécurité et en bonne santé. [thanks for the comment it’s a shame we all need to wait just to use our motorcycles, but we must. I have a ‘private’ video for the people that went but it’s 52 minutes long. Scotland was truly wonderful though. stay safe and healthy.]
I should have whent to the UK for my GS,I perchance an exclusive Gs1250 lowered seat lowered suspension with a premium package, just over 24k in the US.plus the nav was over 900,and on top of that my breaking service was just under 400.🤔
I think not far off the same though Gabriel? It’s about 1.25 USD to 1GBP currently so converted mine was around $23k. Hope you enjoy it though? Ride safe
Hi Nick, thank you for another cool video. Nice to find about your background! - On changes on the drivers behaviour, a much bigger problem is people using cell-phones while driving. - I did notice from the traveling footage, you don't always wave at other motorcyclists? GS bikers... :P - About your speeding ticket, you were overtaking a vehicle. I would argue that while overtaking a vehicle, you should use the full power of your own vehicle, to perform the maneuver in the shortest time possible, thus safest way possible for everybody. If you are to overtake a vehicle running 5 mph under speed limit, overtaking just under the speed limit will be dangerous. -Have you had a chance to review your transmission arm inside the rubber covers? I hear many get water inside, and then it really rusts everything in it. Not sure if this still happens on the 1250, it did happen frequently to the 1200s - some drill a drain hole to empty it. P.S. I still wish motorcycles were this "cheap" in Denmark ^_^ Cheers!
Daniel Lopes Hi Daniel. Thanks for the comments. We generally nod here in the UK or stick our right leg out, so it’s not a GS rider thing. I even find myself doing it in the car!! You see with us driving in the left it would naturally be your right (throttle) hand and that would decelerate the bike quickly. Also, when you are filming and there are many bike the constant tipping in the footage is distracting but I definitely do try. My issue with the speeding ticket is police set up where really you do not expect the speed limit to be as it is. That road is dead straight, out of the village, no entrances and on a down slope, but hey. I broke the law. No real excuse. I will check out the transmission arm. Thanks for the heads-up. After my 2,100 mile Scottish trip I was glad of the shaft. Two were on sports bikes and it was a daily, dirty job to oil the chain. Not for me. Ride safe
@@nickhodgeUK right, now when you leave EU, maybe you could start driving on the right side of the road? ^_^ J/K I had a Honda Deauville before, the shaft drive was fully closed, in oil, so in 40k km I did on it, there was nothing to be done. Shame BMW dont have a similar system. :) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--ub07EkInVY.html and from Brasil, (you dont need to understand the speech anyway) here you can see a really bad state one: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ciF0AgAy6tg.html
Genuine Comments have to say I do like the Rallye finish. ‘Twas not available when I got mine as neither was the GSA which I also quite like the ‘muddy’ variant (hope that describes it)? However, doesn’t detract from the joy of mine at all I have to say. Ride safe
Really good, very thorough video Nick, thank you. You mentioned what a good purchase the luggage liners were, so do you normally just leave your panniers on the bike when you’re staying in a hotel?
stags7075 thanks for the comment. In general yes. When we stopped in Inverness we had a base so took them off then but they are pretty secure and have a knack to even get them off if you know what you are doing. We try to book hotels with covered parking but I always take my Oxford cover as it folds to nothing. Keeps the bike dry and away from prying eyes too. Hope that answers you question. It’s just lovely to not crash into a hotel with cases and as the week goes in one bag is generally left in pannier or top box as it becomes a laundry box
@@nickhodgeUK Thank you for the reply Nick. It;s good to hear that they are quite secure and saves a lot of messing around, trying to cart all 3 into a hotel room. I love the way you have all the details of exact spending on this that and the other, breaking everything down on a spreadsheet, it's something that I always think I should do, but never do!! Good on you! It really is a beautiful bike, I hope you have many, many miles of enjoyable riding! I've got a Triumph Tiger 800 xrt, it's a lovely bike, but I do find myself craving for a GS!! Thanks again!!
@@stags-gr8to Don't type Nick Hodge Excel into Google or you will know why I have stuff in spreadsheets!! You're not alone in questioning the vario luggage so I feel a video incoming.... watch this space, ride safe and love your Triumph. It's a motorcycle, that's everything ;)
Like your video... The trouble with BMW is their cost cutting is blatantly unethical. I have owned 4 BMW 3 series coupes and now a 440i and upon taking delivery of the 440 I felt super cheated and decieved. So that is why in principle I will avoid BMW as much as possible. Back to your bike; I can see how they cut cost by omitting certain necessary accessories to either cut cost or insure your return for expensive service. Do they make it impossible for the owner to do their own service? This could be a great deal of savings, not to mention satisfaction, to service it yourself. I am afraid I no longer trust BMWs, or for that matter European bikes and cars. For me it is Kawasaki for now...
M Aldridge thanks for the comments. I fear servicing is beyond most home mechanics on anything now as there are so many electronics requiring expensive equipment. I shall certainly do more maintenance when out of warranty. As you will see from the video, we were mechanics in 70’s and 80’s. diagnosing and repairing by experience. For sure now most are only fitters. Fitting what the diagnostic equipment tells them needs to. In defence however, stuff is generally infinitely more reliable
I am considering changing from my 2012 Honda Goldwing to a BMW 1250 RT. I am trying to research what I will find different and what I will miss on my Goldwing if I change. My riding partner no longer rides with me and I find that I am looking for a lighter bike that is easier to maneuver and one that I can ride more of the gravel roads here in Colorado (USA) without the huge weight issue with the Goldwing. Your video is helpful, thank you. I have ridden Goldwings since 1980. Any comments you may have would be appreciated or anyone else who might have made this kind of change in bikes.
Don Riedel hi Don, welcome along. I can see that the ‘wing’ is probably now overkill for you and certainly not dirt track suitable. I would say the 1250RT is not really either. The GS or GSA certainly. If you re looking for a ‘road’ replacement for the Wing I’m sure you’d be happy with the RT. If you want the ability to do some dirt roads too. Then I’d go for the GS. In fact probably the GSA which has the larger tank and in that maybe 80 miles more range??
Any vehicle is going to depreciate unless two worlds align. You keep it long enough AND it’s a bike anyone desires. I guess I probably lost £4k in that first year??? My mate for example though paid £13k for his Rocket 11 years ago. It sits in his shed at £6k today so £7k in 11 years ain’t so bad, so I guess it levels?? Great comment though
Great down to earth vids , Nick Can you please assist me. I have just got a new gs1250 rallye 2022 , my first new bike after 40 years riding . I find what i can describe as a real howling of noise coming from the bike. I cant be sure where from. It really is annoying , ruining my ride. I have goggled hundreds of times and other owners make so many ( unproven ) suggestions, like tyres, screens, the front beak. Can you help. My tyres are bridgestone. Others blamed Michelin tyres. This is to date ruining my only new bike experience so far. Any known real fix Nick
Hi David. I’m not really sure. Certainly tyres can make a difference but two of my GS’s had Battlax tyres and I changed one to continental without discernible difference. Maybe ask your dealer if you can borrow a GSA screen. That’s bigger and see if it makes a difference. Have you had a GS before?? Is it different to that?? They’re not the quietest for sure. Ask to try another GS too and compare. Without doubt if it’s spoiling your ride I’d be surprised if there’s not an issue with that bike as most would say they’re hard to beat. Good luck in your quest 👍🏻
You failed to mention the 4k depreciation, you need to add that into the total. Makes it closer to £1 per mile. I thought these GSs were cheap as you see so many, but they have a poor residual so they are a good second hand buy, provided they have sorted all the issues they had a few years back with can bus failures ect, diff leaks, gearbox problems and cooling impellers dropping off. I presume as a mechanic you knew the risks of buying a BMW? I guess that's why they don't hold their money and theres so many used ones for sale with low miliage.
Anthony Price morning Anthony. Not a fan I see. That too is fine of course. Luckily I’ve had few of those problem in my 1st year. Depreciation however is a necessary evil with pretty much every mode of transport unless you fall on a classic or hold them long enough to become one. Who’d have thought my 1976 £425 RD400 would now be worth £15,000. I guess few buy motorcycles as an investment?
@@nickhodgeUK Well said Nick....If you're going to stress about the cost of depreciation on every bike, car, washing machine, audio system you buy from new then I guess you're better off hanging around 'Bargain Corner" outlets in the hope you'll pick up a quality cast off. Personally I'm fairly sure I only have one life and as short as it is I'm trying to Max out on it. That means buying my dream bike and having my cake when I can eat it! My Exclusive is sat there now in the garage depreciating like hell but just looking at it makes me grin as it brings so much pleasure to me, wheels rolling or not! Btw....I have the MRA Vario Screen and its transformed the ride comfort. I'm just under 6ft and can easily ride at 50 visor up (with shades) with zero buffetting. Nice concise video again with honest opinions..
Pete Hudson thanks for your opinion and comment Pete. I look at it the same with bikes. With cars, I’ve had some nice ones but currently have a modest VW Golf. To me a car is now a ‘rental’. Like Sky TV
@@leonardmcneill7594 sorry Leonard. I thought you meant the Givi bag in one of my other videos. I found this one great. It’s a ‘day’ bag. Holds everything I need to hand. Sunglasses, power packs, GoPro batteries, wallet, phone, visor cleaner, cloth, masks, hand gel and just clips on an off when I get off for coffee or to fill tank 👍🏻
