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BMW's 230i Might Just Be The Perfect Coupe | 2022 BMW 230i Review 

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The 230i may look a great deal like 4-Series coupe, but the smaller BMW is smaller, lighter, and $10,000 cheaper with essentially the same engine lineup, For less than a Toyota Supra or Nissan Z, you could get a 2-door BMW. What's not to love? Well, the back seat and trunk are small, but aside from that...
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Комментарии : 159   
@migy5031
@migy5031 Год назад
I think it’s a great daily driver for those who don’t need to carry more than one passenger. I have no complaints about the presenter. 👌
@buickboy92
@buickboy92 Год назад
Enjoyable review, I especially liked the drive-by shots filmed along with narration.
@aroundomaha
@aroundomaha Год назад
Great overview of a car that unexpectedly has my attention. This was helpful
@Jano32024
@Jano32024 Год назад
Great job on the review. I am seriously considering a purchase and your review was the first of many I’ve seen which explained the optional packages for this model. Thanks
@rembo183
@rembo183 Год назад
Excellent review!
@faautobahna9416
@faautobahna9416 3 месяца назад
thanks. good review.
@michaelschneider1365
@michaelschneider1365 Год назад
our video convinced me i’m definitely getting a 228i or 230i m sport version as my next car. it’s perfect size and fun.
@rembo183
@rembo183 Год назад
This is the best BMW unless you need more space. I own one and paid $39,500. It handles great and is very quick. Nice luxury interior with very comfortable seats even without lumbar adjustment. The seats come very supportive. The pricing without unnecessary options is reasonable. Skeptics should test drive one before concluding it’s bad. Personally it’s great in my opinion.
@tresjolieme81
@tresjolieme81 Год назад
What color did you get? I got the purple and in the sun I have so many looks. I added the m sport package and paid 42k.
@rembo183
@rembo183 Год назад
@@tresjolieme81 - Mine is Alpine White with the cognac/tan interior. Beautiful car. That purple is nice and I’m sure it handles great with the MSport options.
@josephcitizen4195
@josephcitizen4195 Год назад
@@tresjolieme81 Brooklyn Grey, M-Sport +options, $46k. Best car I have ever owned.
@tonycamaj4560
@tonycamaj4560 Год назад
​@@tresjolieme81 $42k otd or pre tax etc?
@tresjolieme81
@tresjolieme81 Год назад
@@tonycamaj4560 pretax came out to 47k
@TalismanPHX
@TalismanPHX Год назад
Good review Brian 👍
@anhayes25
@anhayes25 Год назад
The 2023 2 series has AWD available for 230i and RWD available for M240i. The new model year costs more, but one new standard feature is the giant curved screen like in the i4.
@tonycamaj4560
@tonycamaj4560 Год назад
How much more?
@chrisbianchi8876
@chrisbianchi8876 Год назад
Nice review but you're the first automotive journalist I've heard complain about the ZF 8 speed. Aside from Porsches PDK it's widely regarded as one of the best automatic transmissions you can buy.
@PartyPete199
@PartyPete199 2 месяца назад
Is the boot as wide as the 3 series ? . The width measurements on the outside are larger
@A_guan
@A_guan Год назад
I question how reliable the B48 is. I know the B58 is rather reliable but would the same be for the 4 cylinder version? However the B58 just sounds amazing
@BeverlyJansen
@BeverlyJansen Год назад
The 230 iX. Can I fit my road bike in the trunk when the seats are down and I remove the front wheel from bike ?????
@bobbyjones2112
@bobbyjones2112 Год назад
Bravo great reviewer, very well spoken. You remind me of Alex quite a bit!😁
@richardhoulton4016
@richardhoulton4016 Год назад
The 228/230i has long been the 2 Series sweet spot and the modern vehicle most like the original E30 M3. Sadly, up to this model, you could also order it with a manual gearbox which made it even more old school. Shame it’s no longer an option.
@michaelschneider1365
@michaelschneider1365 Год назад
hopefully by this november or december they are in 475-500 max lease price range
@michaelschneider1365
@michaelschneider1365 Год назад
can a car seat fit nicely in this? or is the 228i better
@rembo183
@rembo183 Год назад
I hope they add a manual option. That would make the 230i the perfect sport luxury coupe and so affordable assuming limited options are ordered!
@josephcitizen4195
@josephcitizen4195 Год назад
@@michaelschneider1365 I haven't needed a car seat for 20 years but I think there is enough room in the rear seats. An adult is a different story. I (6'-0") rode in the back of my '22 230 while my son drove and my mom was in the front passenger seat. I was ready to get out 3 minutes into a 20 min drive across town. It was horrible. Other than that, this is the best car I have ever owned. I consistently get 37-39mpg on a daily35 mile highway commute in ECO. Best is 43.8mpg on a 2hr road trip doing ~75mph on cruise in ECO. Get this car.
@BryanW916
@BryanW916 Год назад
1:23 Brian kept activating the "Hey Siri" function on my phone when he said "2 series" LMAO
@hamidmghazi
@hamidmghazi Год назад
Soon we'll all miss this interior from BMW
@yourmommashouse
@yourmommashouse Год назад
But seriously, what the hell is going on at BMW? The design language is all over the place. They seem to be struggling to find an identity these days.
@changfachou
@changfachou Год назад
I feel the same way too
@ItsAlive111
@ItsAlive111 Год назад
They can’t seem to grow out of the iconic double kidney setup
@MarioDallaRiva
@MarioDallaRiva Год назад
I still prefer my E82 coupe cleaner styling.
@Carfan678
@Carfan678 Год назад
Depends on the model I like this one personally however I don’t like the looks of the IX new 7 or refreshed x7
@killacamfoo
@killacamfoo Год назад
@@ItsAlive111 you don't grow out of your signature design. but you certainly don't abuse it to the extent BMW has.
@f22jax
@f22jax Год назад
that intro is beautiful
@brianaiken3917
@brianaiken3917 Год назад
Oddly, this only has "half" of the m240i shadowline package. The grill trim is chrome and the side skirts appear to be gray?...
@Raytracer111
@Raytracer111 Год назад
Presenter did a great job, there isn't much to the car to speak about and yet he did a great job. It's easy to make fun. Try making your video then
@crunkdotmaster
@crunkdotmaster Год назад
If you’re going to call out the Android Auto functionality on widescreen Hyundai/Kia models, at least remember that the April 2022 navigation system update brings that full screen support to affected models (any current ones with 10.25”+ widescreens).
@sambraun7877
@sambraun7877 Год назад
there's actually an update for the Hyundai Kia cars. i updated my k5, and i have the full support for android auto. you just have to toggel off the split screen option in settings after updating, and you have the full screen as android auto!
@ystebadvonschlegel3295
@ystebadvonschlegel3295 Год назад
This might be a decent car if they stop stripping it - you can’t get passenger lumbar adjustment, bolster adjustment, etc. Some of us would love to have a small BMW that’s more luxurious and not a strip down “budget version“ give us the options - some of us will spend the money, some of us won’t
@alexandercura1523
@alexandercura1523 Год назад
You can get lumbar for 2023 with the base seats for $175. Still no passenger though.
@ystebadvonschlegel3295
@ystebadvonschlegel3295 Год назад
@@alexandercura1523 yah that’s the point some of us have spouses that won’t accept a crap seat - would have already bought one otherwise.
@alexandercura1523
@alexandercura1523 Год назад
@@ystebadvonschlegel3295 You are right! That sucks. I found a fix to improve comfort though. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-COPWQjBuJ4k.html This guy had the same problem with his X3.
@ystebadvonschlegel3295
@ystebadvonschlegel3295 Год назад
@@alexandercura1523 I will admit that’s pretty impressive. But personally I would just feel angry that I have to go to that level of effort to fix a car that bmw would have in past years just built right. I’m a long term bmw customer with multiple trips to Germany to pick up cars but I’m about done with them.
@christopher-gardner
@christopher-gardner 5 месяцев назад
I actually wish they made an even more stripped down version that helps bring the price down for people who only care about how well the car drives.
@elliottmanning4116
@elliottmanning4116 Год назад
8:21 I’m pretty sure if you get a 4 Series Convertible, there would be a button there to open and close the convertible top, and a button to turn on the vent that blows air on your neck.
@jesseeek4418
@jesseeek4418 Год назад
In what city and state is this video shot at
@avery4528
@avery4528 Год назад
Excellent overview! I like that BMW does their automatic transmissions correctly. There are 8 gears and 6th gear is 1.00 and there are two overdrives. It's truly better than a manual where 5th gear is 1.00. I hate that "enthusiast" FWD vehicles that don't even bother giving you correct gearing, such as with the GTI, Honda Civic Si, Corolla manual, and WRX. They all have fourth gear as their 1:1 ratio. The Elantra N, GR86/BRZ, and the muscle car trio are the only ones that'll give you 1:1 gearing in 5th at a price point lower than this.
@brianaiken3917
@brianaiken3917 Год назад
To be fair, all the cars you named are in a different price bracket.
@josephcitizen4195
@josephcitizen4195 Год назад
@@brianaiken3917 To be fair, all the cars he named were the ones I cross shopped before buying my 230i. exceptions: I was looking at the Golf R, not the GTI and the new Si hadn't been released. He also forgot the Veloster N I came out of.
@barrybarnes96
@barrybarnes96 Год назад
Have no idea what this means. I have a 6 speed manual Corolla and drives like butter. As a grown up I have no need to rag the shxt out of it.
@dg7438
@dg7438 Год назад
Educational..thanks
@sak1339
@sak1339 Год назад
Perhaps if you order for German delivery you might get the "base price." Here in Texas I tried, but the 2 series coupes are loaded and comparably priced to the 3 series.
@KhanJoltrane
@KhanJoltrane Год назад
Bmw does not do European delivery anymore
@indyrock8148
@indyrock8148 11 месяцев назад
Canberra beige. Melbourne red. BMW design team boss came here on vacation. Camberra beige actually shows a good knowledge of our country.
@jfish9014
@jfish9014 Год назад
I like it. I hated the big grills until I saw them in person. I’ll reserve final judgement until I see these trotting the local streets.
@Carfan678
@Carfan678 Год назад
Saw one of these in person in purple and it looks great in person
@Tarzan91303
@Tarzan91303 Год назад
You didn’t say your name. Or did I miss it? It’s was a clear and concise review.
@ARentz07
@ARentz07 Год назад
You're in the Atlanta area, right? A car like this deserves to be tested on Blood Mountain!
@tresjolieme81
@tresjolieme81 Год назад
I got it in purple and it is perfect for me
@DefineScrib
@DefineScrib Год назад
I’m not exactly sure Brian and Alex are measuring cabin quietness the same way as I’ve never seen a dB score higher than 75 on Alex’s reviews, even for econo boxes like the Toyota Corolla
@vaclav77777
@vaclav77777 Год назад
BMW M240i is very quiet, around 70 db. I don't believe 230i got 73 db.
@DefineScrib
@DefineScrib Год назад
@@vaclav77777 I believe he even said 79 in the video!
@vaclav77777
@vaclav77777 Год назад
@@DefineScrib Yes, you are right. I tested M240i and it is the quietest car in the class.
@Spikejou
@Spikejou Год назад
Tested on a different road probably is the cause.
@WanderinHawk
@WanderinHawk Год назад
The front bumper looks extremely bad so the money you save on this is later spent on aftermarket parts to make it less ugly
@ccroy2001
@ccroy2001 Год назад
Nice review! And finally an auto reviewer that uses Android Auto and a Pixel no less! 👍
@B-rad1
@B-rad1 Год назад
Does BMW want me to think this is a luxury car? For this price and class it should include basic upgrades like double-wishbone front suspension, a limited-slip differential, some form of lumbar seat adjustment, higher quality interior trim than gloss black plastic, and heated side mirrors. If I were driving this and pulled up next to someone in a 400Z I'd feel embarrassed. But it comes in this amazing purple and I hope a neighbor buys one.
@user-bs1wx1tb7e
@user-bs1wx1tb7e Год назад
It does have double wishbone front suspension, the guy in the video was wrong. And you can get the other things as options....
@BigGroupHug
@BigGroupHug Год назад
What's the towing capacity?
@damilolaakanni
@damilolaakanni Год назад
If you want to tow, get a crossover, SUV, pickup or minivan. You don't buy a coupe for towing.
@EdgarRenje
@EdgarRenje Год назад
To me it looks a bit odd, because the roof suddenly drops due to the short length.
@jdubb6591
@jdubb6591 Год назад
If it still had a manual, I would be all over it.
@gladdy02
@gladdy02 Год назад
Damn, y'all savage in these comments 😲
@fp5495
@fp5495 Год назад
3:40 < This is absolute false information; both the 230 and M240 are available with x-drive (AWD) or without (RWD). It was available when this was posted in August 2022.
@BullittHilts
@BullittHilts Год назад
If it came with a stick and even a manual lumbar adjustment I’d be on board. But no lumbar adjustment on a car that starts in the mid-30’s is stupid. Makes you realize how much value you get in a non-luxury brand.
@Blank00
@Blank00 Год назад
0:15 Now it's down to one Japanese brand, Infiniti axed the Q60
@EM.1.
@EM.1. Год назад
I just wish the assembly process was also done in Germany other than just parts.
@ItsAlive111
@ItsAlive111 Год назад
The guy may say we surely do not need lumbar support but surely he needs a booster seat. His shoulders are below the seat back…
@bradweinberger6907
@bradweinberger6907 Год назад
Listen again. He says he doesn't need it.
@sentiencepsn2714
@sentiencepsn2714 Год назад
That odd blank “square” in the middle of the center console is just out of place. Was there originally a feature planned for it? Probably. But like everything else, it now looks unpolished, unfinished, and disproportional. It is the perfect microcosm for BMW’s design challenges. The spacing of the headlights and grille layout remind me of a Kia Forte. The rear tail lights look like aftermarket replacements. And the mishmash of body lines looks like an amateur body kit job.
@KhanJoltrane
@KhanJoltrane Год назад
Bruh it’s a wrist rest
@nc7169
@nc7169 Год назад
What city is that?
@deargodwhyme
@deargodwhyme Год назад
Atlanta
@ak2112
@ak2112 Год назад
I really like these... specifically in the purple they offer. Could see myself driving one if I wanted an automatic.
@jfish9014
@jfish9014 Год назад
ESPECIALLY the purple. I’m strangely in love…
@stevenhaas9622
@stevenhaas9622 Год назад
I don't understand how they can build this on the much larger G20 chassis platform shared with the 3-series and yet it shrunk on it's interior dimensions? No thanks.
@bradweinberger6907
@bradweinberger6907 Год назад
It costs less so you get less. Pretty simple
@dg7438
@dg7438 Год назад
He didn't sound too impressed lol
@sethjchandler
@sethjchandler Год назад
Did not know BMW was marketing to prefects.
@xMeteora__
@xMeteora__ Год назад
The last gen lci looked way better
@pulldpin67
@pulldpin67 Год назад
This guy is good...but where is the big Alex???
@watchreport
@watchreport Год назад
They both do reviews. He's part of Alex on Autos now, so you'll see him more and more as time goes on.
@Blank00
@Blank00 Год назад
idrive 7 > idrive 8
@Wextopher
@Wextopher Год назад
Nice views of Atlanta. Informative presentation, just don't want to stare at someone's house. Know getting a location isn't easy. Lumbar and door handle comments were a little weird. Design has to suit a range of ages.
@Jia1337
@Jia1337 Год назад
This what happens when you hand the design to family members instead of talented designers.
@bassandtrebleclef
@bassandtrebleclef Год назад
Subaru design, turbo 4.... This is the sleepy taco bell dude sleeping under his sombrero.
@malvasia17
@malvasia17 Год назад
UNGLY
@inspector4133
@inspector4133 Год назад
Well done Brian, great job!. I'm always disappointed at how BMW can make a $40k+ car seem to be cheap choice. Their entry level models are alway so bare-boned as to make a Kia look good. Sure, you can get one (maybe) for the $36k msrp, but would you WANT one without any of the options that make BMW a premium car? Personally, I expect all of the models of a premium brand to seem premium. They could learn some lessons from other premium brands (looking at Audi here).
@rembo183
@rembo183 Год назад
Actually you get a premium car at less than $40k without the expensive performance options. The car has sufficient power and great handling characteristics in base trim with only the convenience package. Test drive a base minimally optioned 230i coupe. I guarantee you’ll be impressed. It’s a premium experience at a fair price. A bargain in my opinion.
@Victor-it6bv
@Victor-it6bv Год назад
No manual? I'm good.
@brianlee9233
@brianlee9233 Год назад
I'd rather get this instead of the hideous looking 4-Series right now. If I'd want to get the new 4-Series, I'd get it in black (and everyone else should too).
@rembo183
@rembo183 Год назад
The base trim is best especially without the performance options. M Sport and Dynamic handling options are totally unnecessary plus they it stiffen up, and create a harsher ride because of 19” low profile wheels and tires. The standard 18” wheels with standard brakes are perfect for a better handling smoother ride. Overall I would recommend against these packages and just order a base car with a convenience package with basic options and keep it below $40k. It’s a much better deal and rides great!
@rdays1070
@rdays1070 Год назад
The Pirelli run flats are terrible for sporty driving.
@JogBird
@JogBird Год назад
i thnk i rather get the new civic
@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow
@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow Год назад
So it's an overweight 3500lb 2-door, the seats kinda suck, theirs notable turbo lag, inconsistent throttle response, lurching transmission, and spongy brakes -- but it "just might just be the perfect coupe"??
@marinoint
@marinoint Год назад
The front end isn't very attractive, the rear is terrible. For this price you can get a V8 Camaro that performs better in every way. Or if you really want a European car, you can get a base Alfa Romeo Giulia.
@postalpancho
@postalpancho Год назад
Yeah but then you will have a GM interior. And your back seats will go from usable for short people to just being there for looks. Also you gas mileage will be less. There’s a reason for each car. Personally I’m not a fan of anything GM.
@yourmommashouse
@yourmommashouse Год назад
@@postalpancho that interior is AWFUL
@postalpancho
@postalpancho Год назад
@@yourmommashouse I’ve sat in both. Looks are subjective but GM interiors are objectively worse build quality and cheaper materials. That is for sure. Just like people who will buy an Elantra N, some people don’t care and just want to go fast for cheap. Personally I think Mercedes and BMW are both killing it and leading the industry with interior cabin space. Subjective looks aside BMW is better solely due to it’s higher quality.
@ystebadvonschlegel3295
@ystebadvonschlegel3295 Год назад
I’ve owned BMW for many years. I wouldn’t drive a POS camaro if they gave it to me.
@postalpancho
@postalpancho Год назад
@@ystebadvonschlegel3295 I’ve owned 3 Camaros and 1 BMW. The build quality isn’t even comparable. GM is all squeaky plastic and fake leather with crappy seats. It isn’t even close. American cars may be a better value but they are made cheaply compared to German brands.
@rocinante1070
@rocinante1070 Год назад
Still waiting on your iX review!
@jmer3536
@jmer3536 Год назад
The best BMW made today is the Toyota Supra
@Luma_29
@Luma_29 Год назад
So this begs the question: this or the RS3?
@fireteam_
@fireteam_ Год назад
A 230i or an RS3? I think the winner is pretty obvious. Maybe when the M2 comes out.
@GuiltyNoticer
@GuiltyNoticer Год назад
neither
@handlealreadytaken
@handlealreadytaken Год назад
This is a basic BMW while the RS3 is much more capable version their smaller car.
@Luma_29
@Luma_29 Год назад
@@fireteam_ lmao it’s just bc Alex called the RS3 his favorite but Brian called this the perfect coupe. Obviously the RS3’s more capable
@Mgoblagulkablong
@Mgoblagulkablong Год назад
Not 230i, M240i is comparable to RS3, the BMW is much better (longitudinal platform).
@stannovacki2406
@stannovacki2406 Год назад
"perfect" not "prefect." the former is an adjective, the latter is a noun.
@user-ti2xi9bd4u
@user-ti2xi9bd4u Год назад
The 2023 i230 is perfect with the iDrive8, iDrive7 so outdated and useless.
@paulh6517
@paulh6517 Год назад
Might not be the Prefect Coupe.
@myemail6048
@myemail6048 Год назад
I don’t like this new design. The tail and front fascia look like a 90’s edition Miata or Celica - very Japanese car styling. Flat, boxy doors are ugly. They killed the vintage look from the 128i that was relatively well transitioned into the 228/230i. Poor design choice, BMW :-(
@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow
@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow Год назад
BUY IT NOW -- before the RUIN IT with iDrive 8.
@adamyeager
@adamyeager Год назад
28 seconds into the video.... it's 2022. Can we stop saying that inanimate objects are sexy or seductive?
@whiteandnerdytuba
@whiteandnerdytuba Год назад
Something with that few of cylinders is incapable of being perfect
@texasyank48
@texasyank48 Год назад
C’mon, fix the mis-spelling in the title
@zeljkothegreekserb
@zeljkothegreekserb Год назад
If we ignore that it has the ugliest headlights since E46 Compact, then maybe.
@PaulTC777
@PaulTC777 Год назад
what about the 2013 1 series hatchback?
@KVW22
@KVW22 Год назад
Is it mean if I say I'm not the biggest fan of this presenter over Alex lol. It's not personal, but it just feels like he doesn't actualy know much about cars, feels like a presenter reading lines rather than having actual automotive knowledge. Not trying to be mean I'm just being honest. Maybe it's just me, idunno.
@twiincentral8780
@twiincentral8780 Год назад
I read somewhere else by an insider that BMW decided to split their design language so some cars are traditionally beautiful(3,5,X5) and others are ‘modern’ (iX, 2). This car is really ugly tho.
@Straight_Talk
@Straight_Talk Год назад
Why do Americans pronounce luxury as lugxury?
@christopher-gardner
@christopher-gardner 5 месяцев назад
Are you really surprised that some people talk different than other people. Who cares.
@faygox955
@faygox955 Год назад
If it is not manual, it is far from perfect.
@thomasstorrs6345
@thomasstorrs6345 Год назад
3,500 lbs? Time for a diet bmw?
@aluisious
@aluisious Год назад
This car has way too many dumb problems for the price. Lurches, medicore brakes with dumb feel problems, bigger on the outside and smaller on the inside, it's a pass.
@porfiriato84
@porfiriato84 29 дней назад
You don't know anything about cars
@Parker53151
@Parker53151 Год назад
A front wheel drive BMW? Nah, pass on it.
@brianb7844
@brianb7844 Год назад
The 230 is rear wheel drive. 228 sedans are fwd
@killacamfoo
@killacamfoo Год назад
looks plasticky
@Ethan7s
@Ethan7s Год назад
Also, you broke your own rules about videos that brian appears in :(
@kevinmiller6555
@kevinmiller6555 Год назад
BMWs are ugly af.
@legambaz
@legambaz Год назад
This new model isn't nice at all. The last gen 2 series is nice
@flea4061
@flea4061 Год назад
If it was perfect, then it would be a manual.
@ElusiveRIDE
@ElusiveRIDE Год назад
This thing is so ugly.. the designs bmw pumping out these days is hit or miss no mid ground at all
@yourmommashouse
@yourmommashouse Год назад
I’m offended the new presenter isn’t a Black female.
@Ethan7s
@Ethan7s Год назад
Not only did I lose interest in coups, but the presenter as well. For some reason, the way he speaks and communicates just doesn't seem genuine.
@Thee1Muffin
@Thee1Muffin Год назад
So sick of this channel having no understanding of cars or design. Y’all literally just peddle to the mainstream and oems instead of having a backbone.
@bradweinberger6907
@bradweinberger6907 Год назад
If they had a backbone, what would they say?
@watchreport
@watchreport Год назад
Having a backbone for what? What do you want them to say? Lets hear it!
@idonotcarenow
@idonotcarenow Год назад
Omg, Brian get lost! Seriously.
@GuiltyNoticer
@GuiltyNoticer Год назад
they shrunk Alex
@bradweinberger6907
@bradweinberger6907 Год назад
I'm sure they will listen to rude comments.
@jocu475
@jocu475 Год назад
The color grading on this video is terrible
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