i think that’s part of what he’s trying to express, he surrounded himself with these people and now they’ve rubbed off on him and he doesn’t know what to do now
And more ironic is that random 1200 rated players call one of the greatest chess players of all time petty and small minded and especially at a time when he was mentally unwell and a bit old. I see ur respect for sick and old people sir.
@@mission2176 even before he get sick and old Bobby fischer wasn't a good person to be around There's this incident where a tv channel or a group of people made him a surprise birthday cake, even if he didn't want it he should've just smiled and appreciated the good gesture Instead of getting mad at them
@@mohammedaloujly3838 well, u know that he didn't know who is real father was and his child hood was kinda sad developing egoistic and different personality from a young age, now for example, u went with a cake to ur neighbor on his bday and he shouted on u, I will that's kinda on u cause u gotta respect the personal space of every one, the reason being that there is a chance that the neighbors bday is the worst day in the year cause of any such memory like a near or dear died on that day few years ago or maybe his lover left him. U never know. Also, it it isn't that case, maybe he has never had a habit or environment to celebrate a bday due to his upbringing and him being an introvert couldn't control his emotions and burst it on u by shouting on u remembering his bad past, now I don't think that he really means by shouting but he does so cause there's a deep pain in that scream and that pain can either be understood by a person with high understanding or a person who have been through a similar pain.
He’s right 🤦♂️. I don’t remember who but someone famous once described being amazing at chess bad since it requires someone who is high in IQ to spend time studying it when they could have used those abilities somewhere else in society and been useful. The memory these people have is insanely impressive and it could have been easily used in a better field than mere entertainment.
Bobby: “I don’t consider myself to be a genius at Chess.” Me: Wow, that’s probably the most humble thing Bobby Fisher has s- Bobby: “I consider myself more to be a genius who just happens to play Chess.” Me: Ah there it is.
@@kevingray4980He played chess the way it has to be played now. I think the fact that he quit playing proves that he hated it. Go try to wing it at the board in a tournament against good players nowadays and see how that works out.
His genius was undeniable. Sierewan said Bobby had a book of all of Spasskys games memorized. He would challenge them to pick any game and he knew it. He was so smart he disdained chessplayers as being stupid...lol. How do you play someone like that?
@@DeepfriedBeans4492 You can open any databases anytime you want Bro, while Bobby's era much same other things must access with official authority or else, you should watch directly each game to memorize
@@ryulesmana no? Pretty sure when you’re mass memorizing games like that you just read the notation and ‘play’ the game in your head, no they didn’t have online databases but books were and are still pretty damn efficient for this kind of thing.
However obnoxious he sounds, it’s still true. That man was a once in a generation talent. That doesn’t make him a good person but we cannot deny the genius of this man.
If he was the best oil driller, he would accurately be a genius who happens to be a great driller, doesnt mean hes belittling the dumb roughnecks who also drill oil
@@haventsleptyet Exactly. Mediocre mind has to project its own mediocrity to a genius, instead. And thinks that nobody will realize since the mediocre has to think that everybody is a mediocre as himself. 😊
He speaks his mind and doesnt hold back. I'd much rather talk to people like that then people who dance around the truth. Confidence, telling it like it is. Call it whatever you want. But its mighty refreshing
Normal people would say the exact opposite For me? I think I'm not a genius at chess I'm just a genius that happens to be born in Africa (jk I'm not a genius)
Geniuses are not geniuses in every area. Newton could not paint and Bach was not a mathematician. No genius was omniscient. Not even the great Leonardo da Vinci who had multiple gifts. I respect way more Socrates who admitted "all l know is that I know nothing". This guy is just the opposite of balanced and humble men.
@@FREEMAN.... Genius is just the measure of intelligence. You can be a genius but not good at anything except abstract reasoning. So genius is nothing but a useful substrate to grow mastery of a subject upon. That's what Bobby is saying here, he's a genius that chose chess to master. With regards the Socrates quote, that comes from within the context of a subject or subjects and is more about mastery than genius. You're unlikely to become a master of a complex subject or discover something new in it unless you recognise that the more you know the more you don't know. It's the nature of digging into complexity.
@@TheExcellentVideoChannel Genius can be situational/environmental. For instance many of todays geniuses would have been mid level managers a generation ago. The time and technologies of today met their particular talent(s)
and as intellect is comprised of many more forms of intelligence than pure cognitive ability it's too broad to even say he had great intellect. i'd prefer to say that he was "cognitively gifted"
@@samuelpardana I’d just say he was a good chess player and keep it simple. Sure he can move pieces around a board, but I wouldn’t call him any more cognitively gifted than a doctor, lawyer, or any other traditionally “smart” occupation
@@seanslaysean7097 Well, that's straight up wrong and nonsense. He was a literal genius. He had a gift you wouldn't find even if you searched among a million people. But being a genius doesn't cure being on the autism spectrum and having a troubled childhood.
@@seanslaysean7097Cope. He was an all around genius. He had an IQ of 181. He was extremely knowledgeable in many subjects due to being a voracious reader. He read about 1400 books in his life...that's way more than most people would ever read. You hate him because you are a butthurt chew👃 simple as that.
he makes a lot of sense back in those days chess players thought of themselves as warriors of their country and were full of ego rather than enjoying and learning the game as this generation is properly doing
He's telling the truth. He's not some idiot savant who just happens to be able to calculate chess lines. He's an actual genius. Actual geniuses have a tendency to struggle with socially constructed norms.
Should be titled differently. He's right about a lot of them. Its very misfortunate to put your heart and soul into something and find the community of what you are doing has low Friendship Health Intelligence 😢
It's funny, because we know more now about top players and their tempraments than we ever did, and they seem like pretty nice people generally. There are occasional aberrations in their relationships, usually a little amusing, but they do seem to treat one another with great respect.
He of course had psychological problems. I am not sure what kind of syndrome but because of it he was sticking to what he considered truth and he deeply analyzed his thoughts. So actually it is true that he had a brilliant mind, able to achieve great results in other disciplines but chess, this is what he is saying here, in my opinion. He met chess in his path in life and went totally on that way due to his problematic psychology.
But you know, lot of people with IQ around 400 are like that, they are paranoid and have dementia The person with the highest IQ recorded was exactly like Bobby Fischer, unfortunately died in his 40’s. These people are so intelligent, it makes them go crazy. I mean if you can remember last week bill at the restaurant and exact time and what everyone sitting with you said to you and ever said to you, then you start to see patterns that can lead you down insanity
He is absolutely a genius that play chess he is the freaken world champion who learned chess by reading magazines about it The way the media try to make him look like a crazy is disgusting
He described himself more then any other chess player ever. If you think hikaru is petty and small minded then you don’t know about Bobby Fischers past
Hikaru and bobby are both extremely funny. If you can't help but have a superiority complex because you are capable of destroying literally thousands of people who dedicate their lives to the game... Why not be arrogant and then joke it off? It's either that or be arrogant and pretend not to be. When you are that dominant at the game, it's impossible to not feel superior. Magnus also has a great sarcastic sense of humor.
@@SpontaneityJD Compared to Bobby Fischer? Bobby refused to play title games because of how the pieces looked, he lost the world title because he refused to play and whenever he was there to play he spent his time yelling about money and yelling at the refs about non sense, and was a total prima donna.
Considering his time and the complete communications lockdown of the media (pre-internet), Bobby was able to figure it all out on his own. That in itself qualifies him as a genius.
He is right though… he is a genius. So if he did not say so it would be false modesty. It is actually humility to be honest about a truth in spite of the fact that it will make you look arrogant. If it makes other people feel bad it is likely because of their jealousy. On another note, I feel like chess players are generally accepted when they take on another profession which is unlike a lot of things. An actor taking up chess would be met with skepticism whereas a chess player taking up acting or politics would be met with interest.
@@chesneytube1 A humble person from a place of superiority would express themselves something like "With the risk of bragging, but I am a bit of a genius. I can't know for sure, but I feel I would've done pretty well in any field."
@@mrkiky according to you anyway. I personally don’t mind if people tell it straight either. There is such a thing as tall poppy syndrome too where people try to knock down high achievers or people with self esteem because they’re jealous of them…
I want to make it clear that Bobby Fischer, at the age of 12, was widely recognized as a prodigious genius by newspapers worldwide. Throughout his life, he remained aware of his exceptional abilities and undeniably fits the description of a genius.I was there.
Imagine writing negative comments about a mentally-ill man. This man was a legend-the legend. Have some respect. The fact that he lost his mind does not change that.
I mean he has always had a very inflated ego, and he had some very hateful opinions, I don’t think it’s unfair to criticize him on that. The irony in how he sees other chess players as small minded and petty and all that is pretty funny. And yeah he’s a legendary chess player, certainly one of the best of all time. As a person, he wasn’t that great in my opinion. Part of it is due to his mental illness issues for sure.
@@matteogauthier7750 Bobby has always been like this if you see the older interviews... somepeople just operate on another level which normal people can't catch
@@e053chirag4 That's only true about his chess. As a person in general I wouldn't call it another level at all. You can't attribute his antisemetism, for example, to his outstanding intellect. "If he thinks like that then it must be true since he's so smart" isn't sound reasoning, because he wasn't a genius in everything. His brain was just exceptionally good at certain types of exercices. And he let it make him think that he's a genius in everything. There's some oversimplification there but I think you get what I'm saying. From what I can tell, and I'm by no means an expert, he had Asperger syndrome or something similar. With proper care he might have led a happier life. Who knows.
@@matteogauthier7750 You gotta remember tho, a lot of people thought he was being petty about his demands for the game, but in reality, the conditions such as the lighting, ambient noise, cameras etc. really did affect his concentration. You can blame Bobby for a lot of things, but I don’t think you can blame Bobby for that. Some people have certain medical conditions that affect their concentration more than a neurotypical person.
Probably true. Heard he had an IQ of like 180. So that's exactly what that would mean. A genius who plays chess. Or a genius who wasted it on chess. IQ is your ability to learn news things. He learned chess and not much else.
IQ isn’t really your ability to learn. It’s more your problem solving, conceptual thinking and pattern recognition. If you’ve ever taken an IQ test, they’re more focused on those kinds of questions. The two abilities will go somewhat hand in hand, along with many others, but they aren’t exactly correlated. For example, I’ve always scored very well in IQ tests, but I know many people who score lower who I consider more intelligent than myself. As a little anecdote, in my secondary school I wasn’t even supposed to take the MENSA test. I scored badly on the tests we took which were then used to select the students that were put forward. My maths teacher at the time pushed for me to be allowed to take it and I ended up scoring the second highest in the year. I took the year of free membership, had a few conversations with the stuck up pricks who thought they were better than everyone else in the forums then ignored the society ever since. Far better to figure out how smart someone is by their achievements, work ethic and dedication than an almost arbitrary number.
@@halion4487 yeah. It's tested by those things. But in practice it usually comes out to a person with a higher IQ will learn something faster than someone with a lower IQ. That's where I think people get confused. IQ tests are not general knowledge questions. And "common sense" isn't something you would learn on day 1 of picking up something new. Like those people you consider more intelligent than you just probably learned more about that particular thing. Or even many things you don't know much about. But IQ is basically useless if you're not learning anything. Take a person with a genius IQ and lock them up their whole life they will be "dumber" than most people.
You may be surprised to know IQ and chess playing ability are two very different things, and that some very great players had quite ordinary IQs. For example, I read that the only serious attempt to measure Garry Kasparov's IQ, a French team found it to be "only" 135. Even I am higher than that and I suck at chess. Hikaru Nakamura apparently has only a normal IQ. But when you think about it, it's also not contradictory. What is IQ measuring, and what are the actual skills that help you succeed in elite chess? IQ basically measures your ability in logic. There is certainly an element of logic in chess that matters, but that's also incomplete. All elite chess players have photographic memories and can instantly recall tens of thousands of chess positions. They can "see" the board in their heads and play blind simuls. IQ tests don't measure that! Also, IQ doesn't really measure how fast you arrive at an answer so long as you get the right answer. In chess, having the ability to see the combinations quickly, having an intuitive sense which are potential good candidate moves to consider matter very much. Again, none of this is measured in IQ tests. When you consider the severe limitations of what IQ tests measure, you start to realise it's not so surprising that it doesn't correlate well to chess genius.
^ IQ is more about pattern recognition and how to solve them. It’s also about how you receive information and apply the information you’ve learned. Having a high IQ means you recognize patterns quickly & can pick up something you learned then apply it in a very productive way.
@@e053chirag4 Nothing wrong with being anti Semitic? Nothing wrong with saying women belong to the kitchen? Nothing wrong with every conspiracy he believed? Wow what a fucking clown 🤡🤡🤡🤡
He was a genius, indeed, but chess is one of the few things he could have excelled at. Too unstable for any other kind of life; and, in the end, too unstable for chess, too.
