@Top Lobster If your waist is vast, it sure is. :3 I personally see any collector's edition as a waste of space; a lesson I learned the hard way, more so when I thought I could use my chests as storage spaces. They're very smol ; - ;
On the Moze build, going by the descriptions, I'm not so sure the splash damage skills from the Demolition Woman tree will apply to Iron Bear. They all say "whenever Moze deals splash damage", and the radius one applies to "all splash damage dealt by Moze". However, if you look in the Bottomless Mags tree, Cloud of Lead and Stoke the Embers both say Moze AND Iron Bear. Since those specifically mention Iron Bear and the Demolition Woman skills don't, I would say they don't affect Iron Bear unless the wording is an oversight by the devs.
zane with digi clone and shield gonna be cool pop your shield and your clone behind then rush do a bunch of damage and switch to your digi clone and start buffing your own damage whilst you recover!!
Towards the bottom of amaras fist of the element tree there is a skill that heals you whenever you deal elemental damage and with an infinity pistol it’s really strong you can stand right in front of badass enemies
I've been micromanaging builds for Amara, Zane, and two for Moze so far and it's kind of funny how different our ideas are. Good video though - love the input. Can't wait to put theory to the test.
Awesome indepth video! I was set on Amara because I love playing as the siren but I think I might save her for a second character or third. Zane's mechanics seem so much more fun and is open to a lot more different weapon types. This great analysis definitely earned my subscription :) keep up the good work.
Moze is gonna be my main, gonna be running a Chemical warfare salamander and a close the distance besr fist. Mix that with all the incendiary i can and screen get over here every 5 seconds.
I'm here to tell you, after all these years, that your solo build for moze inspire me to do a similar one. I did invest in the bottomless mags till I got the explosive miniguns and the specialist bear. But the aditional skillpoint I spend in the demolitiin woman to unlock the nuclear rocket louncher. I am a late player but I'm having tons of fun 🥰 thank you for the help here 😊
Thought I’d settled on Amara as my main, but after seeing that Fl4k build... I’m unsure again >_< Damn you Gearbox for making all the characters so awesome!
Thanks for helping me cement my choice. I was gunning for Amara because as a Siren I thought she'd be more story focused, but Moze looks like so much fun :)
@@actualteddybear891 dont worry they cant actually die. theyll go down like players. plus alot of the skills in master and stalker will make the pet very hard to go down too. think of it as a spirit link between the two of you :)
Death follows close will also increase the effect of pocket full of grenades to 25% regeneration per second and increase the length to 15 seconds. After you get your max grenade capacity to only 4 with a lvl 31 build you regen a grenade every second. At that point just get rid of the SNTNL and run around with a cryo gun throwing infinite grenades.
And with the weapons (i forgot the name for it) that have bonuses to certain perks and passives, that adds more flavor to builds, just makes it all more diverse.
Honestly Amara seemed kind of dissapointing at first compared to previous melee characters like Krieg and Athena but after looking at her tree a bit more she has a lot of potential for awesome combos. For instance: Using Fist over Matter with Allure for that singularity pull dealing decent damage in an area and grouping your enemies closer and then moving in with Blitz to finish them one by one. Stillnes of Mind with Deliverance phaselocking entire groups of guys. She might be my first, though at this point it's getting seriously hard to choose...
Definitely picking Moze just because I’m also a Metal Gear Solid fan and the iron bear reminds me of a little Metal Gear Rex, especially if I add a rail gun for fun 😅
My moze build focuses more on SoR tree getting powerful sheilds and high damage from cloud of brass and pharalax doctrin. Then go down the demolishion tree and focus on skills to keep iron bear healthy and grenades. If something does kill me I can throw grenades while down which heal 20% per hit.
Amara looks the most interesting to me as I like to be fast moving. Zane looks to be the most powerful and fun as well, but i just dislike captain Flynt so much he has tainted my Zane opinion. All I wanted was a Thunderball fist, is that so much to ask Flynt huh? This is the only borderlands where I believe I will be playing all characters to max. I'm rather excited.
@@PepicWalrus He's a major pain when you start a new game. He's resistant to fire and that early that's all the elemental weapons you find. Also he has a terrible drop rate for the thunderball fists. And when he does drop it he throws it over the side. He's also a pain in the ass to farm cause it's takes a bit to get to him. Many more reasons.
@@MILDMONSTER1234 in the beginning he is. Tou only have access to fire weapons that early, and he is resistant to fire. Also all the ads and firenshooting out the ground. Maya early can handlenhime cause if her action skill, maybe actin and gauge too. But I played Salvador and Krieg. Tough at first
Just to clarify for amaras " One with nature ", it's 40% reduction for her action skill element ( so fire, OR corosive, not all elemental damage ) You have more enemies with fire damage. And more enemies with shield and flesh, or just flesh, then armor, so for me, using fire will be far more better then using corrosive element.
I would use the capstone on amaras blue skill tree. Doubling up on action skills could be pretty busted. If an action skill has a 20 sec cooldown and im looking for a big burst, i would use the action skill, wait 18 seconds then use the second charge, then the new charge, the the second one again. 3 back to back. Doing this on certain augments would surely be busted.
If Salvador and Lilith had a baby, her name would be Amara. Shes so strong on paper.. well Avatar skillname itself is fitting =) shedot everything all day at will 👀
Hey, it has its positives. We are rare and beautiful like unicorns. Moreover, we can feel special when we join a random game to get greeted by 3 Fl4ks! :D
Im not saying Amara can keep up hundreds of dots, but im saying its closer to half a thousand while regenning a quarter of her health every second on demand. Salvador and Lilith has nothing on this girl. The other characters can keep their Kill skills, when Amara can just pop her stuff and become a machine you need to oil.
Amara with all that melee bonus and damage bonus from close up she seems like the best single target damage dealer. (Best solo survivability method, kill them before they kill you)
personally I think my Moze build is better for soloing. Less ammo regeneration and no need for explosives but adding more bear uptime, defensive skills from sheilds of retribution and adding drowning in brass: 60% gun damage on a kill skill outweighs the 10-20% damage bonus from explosives in my opinion...also cryogenic minigun paired with fire augmented rail rifle
Yeh I'm not really feeling her. I like the elemental focus and huge powerful skills but she's more traditional BL in her play style and I like the more action skill focus of Zane and Moze and the pet focus of FL4K
Would be dope if they gave the Siren a launch ability. Similar to the hawk guy from battlborn. It would add to mobility for that character, assist w dive bombs (action skill & ground pound melee) and be something standout. I feel like every other character is outclassing the Siren. This small change would completely change how sirens maneuver the battlefield
The ability I mention in the build does sort of do that. You jump in the air and can coordinate where you land. It's quite devastating and does do more damage than most other action skills in the game. People don't realise but Amaras action skills hit the hardest out of all the Characters (Not sure about late game with gear).
Strongly disagree with the proposed Moze build. Her Shield of Retribution tree is far too good to pass up on. The amount of Gun Damage you can stack within that tree is absurd.
I'm going to run a combination of Demolition Woman and Shield of Retribution. Endless grenades on foot, and a powered up Iron Bear that goes from an 'oh crap' button to a 'frequent friend on the battlefield'.
Same goes for Zane's shield tree. Its synergy with the clone tree is OP. Not to mention when they increase the level cap, you can get the Shield copy capstone, Clone copy capstone, and the "Reaper Kill Skill" skill from the middle tree, the only useful thing in the tree.
Yea I was thinking of something like this borderlands.com/en-US/characters/moze#t=%22cb__1265601393___p__411933563-1_3720693987-5_1557093796-5_2125658553-5_1819376433-1_2907452932-3_443105198-5_2203236028-1_4154127400-1_1064863104-5_3066753877-1_2033013265-1_2146476666-5_630894015-3_924392435-5_769197315-1%22
I think I'm going with Fl4K and using a mixture of the stalker tree and the master tree, I think the ability to be revived when downed by your pet is good and if you use the stalker pet it can shoot guns also, now also using the master tree, is just to buff it up, because no doubt that in the end game you'll have the best gear and will hardly die, unless it's to an op boss and I'll want to have a chance worst scenario and not want to run around helping stupid when it dies. 😂
It's so hard to stick with one character when all characters have builds that are fun to experiment with. Add in the amount of weapons on top of unique gear to acquire and you're stuck rotating characters before even finishing the main campaign. It's going to be sooo much to do in this game, and I can not wait. I want to experience all the broken glitches and OP weapon sets prior to the fixes.
With your Moze build above you mention COV and Vlad weapons stating the right weapon is key ! What are the very best fast firing weapons to look for ? What would you consider the God roll weapon for this build ? Apologies as I’m new to Borderlands 3 returning years after playing the first one. Thanks
As of right now I can't tell you the very best as I haven't seen even close to the legendaries available yet. However on the first major boss, mouth piece, there is an epic COV weapon (shoots sound waves) that drops that suits her very well.
That's a ridiculous amount of melee damage Amara is capable of. Brick and Krieg could learn a thing or three from her in that department. Your build kind of makes her a bit similar to a build I used for Athena in The Pre-sequel, a build I enjoyed immensely.
Think you missed a trick with Amara, similar to how Maya was arguably the best solo in BL2 you can use her phase lock ability to get badasses at bay which is so helpful solo except you can also get Avatar in the mystical assault skill tree and use phase cast or tandava with stillness of mind to lock any enemy hit by it twice every 28/35 seconds (every 14/17.5 secs or even faster with restless). That crowd control is really quite good even for a short time. You can then stick bonus points in brawl to make her far tankier and if you wanted there's points spare after reaching avatar for find your centre and illuminated fist to get 150% more melee damage in your action skill element which is better with a pure brawl build but still nice with anyone. So she reduces damage via crowd control and gets health buffs and regen. Perhaps not as good solo as some other characters builds but solo I think this would be better than a long cool down action skill since she'd be defenceless on cool down.
The jabber is the best pet not only does it shoot at things but the gun runner version pulls out a grenade launcher and I’ve seen it devastate enemies. I’d say go with the slag for the rifts best effects since skag is more aggressive but around u can’t go wrong with jabber It even picks up barrels to throw at enemies
Zachary Manning Not an invis build as it used the Master action skill, not the Stalker one (though there’s nothing stopping you from swapping it out). But otherwise, yeah, awesome sounding build. Has me thinking twice about Fl4k.
This... didn't help at all. It made the choice much harder as all the builds you describe seems incredibly fun. Before I at least had an inkling of characters that I didn't want to play. Oh well... I guess I am going to have to play them all now. So long life.
If you pair "schadenfrager" and "digital distribution" im pretty sure youll increase survivability a ton since when you take health damage a portion will be distributed to your clone and when your clone takes damage your shield starts to recharge.
With the FL4K build which way would you level it? Getting lick thr wounds first then the other tree or all the way to dominate before heading to lick the wounds.
Dantics, you're awesome. I appreciate all you're work. I like your zane build, but I did the reverse. I prioritized the hitman tree, primarily for the increased movement speed, damage, kill skills, health regeneration, action skill reduction, action skill duration extension, 40% action skill duration and effect, the ability to access all kill skills when using an action skill, and the ability freeze eneimes. I think freezing or slowing enemies will allow you to kill them easier, which procs kill skills, which in turn extends the duration and effectiveness of action skills. I supplement it with the digiclone. I like the cryoblast when switching places coupled with the cryo drone. I also liked the augment where the digiclone damage replenishes your shield. That couple with life steal should help with survivability.
No flaws :) I don't think it's hard to go wrong with Zane. Except going down the barrier path if you are solo. It all depends what weapons you get and how you like to play!
@@Dantics I agree. I think the damage output you're sacrificing as well as versatility isnt worth it solo, especially if you utilize Zane's cryo abilities and movement speed from the hitman tree. This will allow you to freeze or at least slow enemies which should result in you killing them before they kill you more often than not.
I think Amara is a great choice for solo play, she gets massive damage reduction and health regen after using skill, plus she gains life steal for her elemental weapons. Plus she has all that bonus melee and elemental damage boost.
the conquering potato of Europe me personally I made my own build that involves both the deployable shield and the digi clone, not sure if the clone’s gun damage is affected by shooting through the shield like Zane himself is, however my idea for the build was being able to stand in an impenetrable fortress in the middle of the battlefield firing out with my digi clone
No you should not start with clone. For best start you will level hitman. Once you start upgrading your ammo and getting better weapons you can respect. It will be up to you how you play overall but for best overall start hitman first.
For the Zane solo build, would you recommend going through the Double Agent tree before putting any points in Hitman, or did you kind of go back and forth allocating points. Awesome content, as usual, and thanks in advance 😊😊😊
No, start with Hitman as the clone is not exactly the best at the start of the game. once you get some more points and spent some money on getting upgrades like grenades along with finding new guns (if you like this grenade build an infinity should be godlike) you will be able to swap and redo your build. At that point the clone will start doing even more work. and with low mag guns (again infinity) you will shoot grenades like crazy. But early on the damage you will get from hitman out ways the clone tree.
Moze build also going to be a no from me, imo can ignore most of bottomless mags. Only need cloud of lead, match set, and redistribution with duel cryo mini guns(cov or vladof weapons loyalty) short fuse, vampyr and pull the holy pin if synergies gives you another way to get crits on enemies meaning you never have to reload while healing . And drowning in brass and experimental ammo for extra gun and fire damage. Some of these are just speculation, but if these synergies work she will steamroll the mobs and have great damage output and sustainment in boss fights
And as lv cap raises I'll spec more into sheild of retribution making her impossible to kill. Only way I would change this is if I went corrosive salamander and railgun but can't spec that far without sacrificing short fuse and then some.
I like the Zane build but there are some big changes in my build compared to yours. The 20% damage per skill active is too good to ignore in the double agent build. Also in the shield build you can extend your up time with your skills with the CD reduction it offers. I can theory craft a 100% up time on a 20% damage bonus and a 30% up time on 40% damage bonus
@@Dantics lol I actually remembered it wrong. It's actually Dixie Kong's victory song. She plays the electric guitar and Diddy raps with the boombox on his shoulder.
Damn well now I REALLY don’t know who to play. I was gonna go with Amara since I love the Sirens and elemental weapons and was planning to invest heavier in Fist of the Elements. But I’m not a fan of Maliwans having a charge mechanic now so it may not work. I don’t like losing so much view with the Iron Bear but using Vladofs, other high fire-rate weapons, fire weapons, explosives and having ammo regen is very tempting. But so is that Zane build. He gonna be broken af.
4 Fl4ks with 4 RPG-equipped Jabbers while firing 12 volleys of 4 Rakks... Augments for the Rakks boost them from 2 per player to 4 per player, while another raises them from 2 charges per cooldown to 3.
Not really because her ammo Regen is based on mag size. The only weapon that would benefit from that would be COV next vladof because they have huge mags, third probably teidiore just because match set more bullets better explosive reload but you'll still be throwing a entire mag away and can't get back that ammo.
Just reading the skill descriptions for Moze, reading the wording very carefully, does "Fire in the skag den" actually proc from the explosive rounds on the Minigun when it says "When Moze deals splash damage" not Iron Bear? Whereas "Cloud of Lead" says that "Moze and Iron Bear's Nth shot does incendiary damage". Not trying to correct you because I don't even know myself, but just a curious and genuine question. Wouldn't "Fire in the skag den" mention iron bear if it was possible to be proc'ed by it, rather than only saying Moze who can be outside of it? If anything, we will just have to wait and see till we get out hands on the game.
Just commented the same thing before I saw yours. I'm hoping its just an oversight as far the wording and will apply to Iron Bear. Otherwise the splash damage skills don't seem too useful unless your using Torgue weapons or you go all the way in the Demo Woman tree to get Short Fuse(gives gun damage a chance to cause a secondary explosion). Either way I may go with the perks for more fuel/less consumption, less cool down, and more armor to keep Iron Bear up more often.
Is Moze’s ‘click click’ based on the percentage of ammo remaining or just the number itself, like shotguns with low mag capacity anyway will get the boost even if they’re fully loaded?
See now for moze I'd base her build with either the defense or rapid fire trees and using her demolition tree to increase her mech time and add some ai to increase her survivability.
10:22 I think +93% reload speed does *not* mean almost instant reload (that would be +infinity% reload speed), but rather that reloading is _almost_ twice as fast. Rates are counter-intuitive. Well, at least that's what would make sense mathematically. But who knows what the devs intended here...
I hear people saying armara is underwhelming, her elemental tree is going to be nuts,here's why Grasp someone which will give you a damage boost then pull other enemies closer, shoot the grasped enemy bullets ricochet of it to others, wildfire causes status effect to spread, target dies your gun is instantly reloaded, grasp finds new target. Also muliwan guns now have two elements and you can convert some damage to your action skill element so three elements one gun. Oh and u can grab guardian angel skill for instant revival out of FFYL. #teamarmara
Can u maybe make a video on how to appoint the skills in proper order, if there is one, or is it by preference how we achieve this end result for the Amara build? 🤔🙃
I kno ur milking it with these borderlands 3 vids but im loving it and its keeping me from going crazy by waiting for its release so please keep them coming!!
Great video thanks. I don't agree with amara being on the last place tho. For me it's the best for solo for one simple fact : no opponent has the dps to kill you if you have max clarity samsara and helping hands, even bosses. Plus she's the fastest with mindfullness and has a self-res. These are all early game perks that makes your life easy till lvl 30 at least.
Moze with your build is a glass Canon 🤔 She will have a lot more survivability with her shield 🛡 skilltree. And you easily go up to over 100% weapon dmg! 😉 Good vid btw.
Scheudenfreude. Love it. Not perfecly pronounced but i bet i Sound funny if i talk english.😁 I still can't decide beten Zane and Amara. My BL2 Main was Krieg and i think the closest to it is Amara, but Zane could be inZanely fun too.😂
Actually got to play a little while yesterday... leveled up to 18... log on this AM, I've lost all progress and am a level 10. Realllly fun experience so far :(
@@pittypatterputzzler5311 Even better... I got home, and managed to manipulate the cloud save - got my shit back, just to log in today after a "hot fix" and it reset me back down to 20 from 23. WTF is Epic doing over there?
@@buetang Sorry to hear that. I reinstalled epic games just so I could start the game. I wish steam would fork out the cash to keep handling triple A games. On the plus side we will spend so much time farming in this game that lvl is not to relevant.
Thumbs up thanks for the information it is very helpful I will be buying this game tomorrow and I want to use Zane and I will use the information you are giving and I just Subscribed to this channel after seeing this info.
Wait. Zane’s ability to have the first shot of every gun have a 30% chance to throw a grenade will be extremely OP with the infinity pistol since every shot is the first shot.
The grenades comes from your ammo depot meaning you will run out and most likely wasting them most of the time, plus you dont know when it happens, you can shoot it into a stupid ledge and it bounces back into your own cover.
so im level 30 now and only played online once , im at chapter 13 . i just realized now that you can use more then one skill tree at a time. i though you had to use only one color skill tree. this is going to be a game changer if i can use pieces of all different trees at once. i basically just bought everything in the master skill tree.
