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Bosch offers many different display options paired with their motors. In this video we will walk you through all the functions of the Bosch Smart Phone Hub display.
If we didn't cover something or if you have any questions, feel free to reach out to us. Thanks for watching!
#boschebike #smartphonehub #cobidisplay
Timecodes:
00:00 Intro
00:30 Smart Phone Hub Display
02:00 Cobi App
02:30 Cobi App Walkthrough
03:55 Connecting to Cobi App
04:55 Setting up Cobi App
05:40 Mounting Phone to Bike
06:08 Cobi App Homescreen
6:59 Fitness Function
7:36 Heart-rate Monitor and Compatibility
8:29 Music Compatibility
09:38 Navigation
14:10 Phone Calls
15:30 Changing Assist Levels15:44 Weather and Sunset Display
16:20 Manual
16:40 Walk Assist
17:05 Charging
17:40 Final Thoughts
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@58WP
@58WP 3 года назад
Very nice walkthrough. I have made several comments/answers to questions below. I hope they help. The Smart hub does need some upgrading: like better a mechanism to secure the phones and better documentation. Bosch is pretty slim in this regard. They also need to produce lists of compatible heart rate monitors and cadence sensors.
@BadTomzi
@BadTomzi 3 года назад
Just got one thanks to this video. Amazing product.
@arnesoderstrom
@arnesoderstrom 4 года назад
Great walkthrough! It has to be said that your videos do a lot more than tell us about a given product; they give us a glimpse into what it might be like to actually use and live with the product. On the flip side, I now feel quite torn. I really have my heart set on an e14 drivetrain (for the gearing range), but the smartphone hub now has me seriously considering the prospect of an enviolo setup (at least I wouldn’t have to give up the belt drive too). If speed motors were legal where I live it would be a no brainer. Love the seamless integration of bike computer, navigation, fitness tracking, and hands free(ish) phone control. Bosch is really onto something. Thanks for contrasting the hub’s nav functionality with that of Google maps. I found that quite informative.
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 4 года назад
Thanks so much for your detailed feedback and comment! I do suspect that the smartphone hub will eventually be compatible with eShift, but it might be a little while. There will also be the option to add the new Nyon display which was supposed to be launched this summer, but we might be looking at the fall with everything which is going on. Anyway, I hope that’s helpful and I’m sure whatever you chose it will be great!
@arnesoderstrom
@arnesoderstrom 4 года назад
Thanks Chris. A Nyon looks like it would hit the spot, provided it works with the Rohloff. I’ll keep my fingers crossed until we hear more from Bosch!
@markkohr6078
@markkohr6078 4 года назад
Wow. Really nice complete walk through. Well done.
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 4 года назад
Thanks so much Mark! Much appreciated! I hope you’re staying healthy and safe.
@BillWatson425
@BillWatson425 4 года назад
Another great review Chris. You now have a new Twitter follower as well 👍
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 4 года назад
Thanks Bill! Much appreciated! Hope you’re staying healthy and safe.
@marcovandamme1487
@marcovandamme1487 4 года назад
Around 5:00 you show the Riese & Müller design and features. What are the features and could it be that I do not see them because shortly after Cobi installation my dealer upgraded the firmware of my Delite?
@curtisjohnson4886
@curtisjohnson4886 3 года назад
Do you know how to clear the miles for each ride
@R0dan
@R0dan 3 года назад
Very helpful...thank-you👍
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 3 года назад
🙏
@pixbylorne1436
@pixbylorne1436 3 года назад
Despite having misgivings about having one of my local shops install the Smart Phone Hub on one of my new Trek Verve=2 bikes I went ahead and had them order it and reluctantly took my big in at 2:45 one afternoon. Went back two hours later to see a couple of confused guys looking at my bike with parts strewn on the floor. Really, a Trek Dealer that sells bikes with Bosch drives should be able to re & er the motor in 40 to 50 minutes, add another 10 or so to swap out the displays. The sop closed at 5 so I gave them a couple of hours the next day to finish. Thankfully after some debate with the owner the charge to install was minimal which is a good thing as I have just spent over $7000.00 at this shop. Back home there was no problem getting the phone to sync with the hub after setting up an account with Bosch through the Kobi App. The question now is about getting android phones in the hub phone cradle/holder without it activating the phones buttons. All that seems to work is having most of the phone stick out the side of the cradle but that causes the phone to interfere with other controls on the handlebar. Any ideas???
@thetravlinmagicshow2385
@thetravlinmagicshow2385 4 года назад
What’s the difference of the speed shown in the middle of the main screen and the speed shown on the lower left. Not always the same.
@aswinanil1125
@aswinanil1125 4 года назад
hey nice video. keep it up .
@markberry2785
@markberry2785 3 года назад
Very good overview. Thank you! I spent $6K on a Trek Powerfly 9 FS Equipped and didn't get what you provided in under 20 minutes from Trek or the dealership. Whatever happened to user manuals? Oh, that's right - RU-vid!
@jeff8076
@jeff8076 2 года назад
Thanks Chris for another very helpful video. I really enjoy the Propel e-bike videos. I have had a smartphone hub on my Riese and Mueller Nevo 3 for about 6 months now and have to say that I'm totally underwhelmed by the product. Its best feature is the large speedometer printout on the phone screen. However, it doesn't seem to have an odometer or cumulative mileage total for the bike. This may be available if the motor is connected to the Bosch software in a workshop but as I would like to monitor this myself, it's an obvious feature that is frustratingly absent. Perhaps I have missed something and would be grateful for any advice on how to access this facility if it actually exists. Help?
@otmeijers761
@otmeijers761 3 года назад
Hi All, Is there any way to find a manual that I can DOWNLOAD? To make it possible for me to print it? Thank you for walking us through the whole thing, Propel, really appreciate it.
@GeoffreyBSAXE
@GeoffreyBSAXE 4 года назад
Thanks very much for this! Very useful. Question: I just recently purchased a 2020 R&M Superdelite with smartphone hub. Do you know whether there's a dedicated iPhone case that fits in an indentation just below the hub mount? If so, does Propel sell it?
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 4 года назад
There is, but we don’t have it available at the moment.
@arlienedunn-christison9373
@arlienedunn-christison9373 4 года назад
My bike hub is in metrics ie KM not Miles...how do I change that?
@esthermofet
@esthermofet 4 года назад
Choosing a cycling route based on fastest, shortest, or quietest! That's a win right there. Now, if we just add that feature to the readily-available Apple or Google Maps apps...
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 4 года назад
That is my wish. Preferably Google maps.
@GarryNichols
@GarryNichols Год назад
I heard that it wasn't compatible with the HS models. Is that still the case? AND WHY?
@FM-us3rd
@FM-us3rd 4 года назад
So I have an allant 8s stagger and love it. But my only issue is the cobi phone cradle, hit a bump and your phone will be dislodged. So strap it in or utilize a different cradle. Or just use the mini display.
@pixbylorne1436
@pixbylorne1436 3 года назад
Get a quad lock mount, that solved our problem
@sollieutube
@sollieutube 4 года назад
I also have the Trek Allant+ 8S with this Cobi display/app. I have a problem with the compass not always indicating the right direction, it tends to be 90° out of phase through half the ride going back to correct and then phasing back to 90° off the correct direction. I’m not sure what causes this and I’m wondering if anyone else is having this problem. Otherwise I really love this display and I’m thinking of ordering it from my other bosh bike system. I do not have a problem with my iPhone 11 S max coming out of the holder, perhaps the larger phone is held tighter by engaging the spring clamp mechanism more at the top range of the force applied (that holds the phone.)
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 4 года назад
This is really great feedback! Thank you very much for sharing. Hopefully someone else can chime in if they’ve had the issue. I don’t use the navigation too much, but maybe I will more in the future and check this out.
@stephensaxon9053
@stephensaxon9053 4 месяца назад
Question, We are now in March 2024, is this Bosch Smartphone Hub still able to be used and works well?
@StephenBieda
@StephenBieda 2 года назад
What if you don't have an eBike but want smart functionality and connectivity? I have a Vanhawks Valour which has some of this but they went bust before bringing the full set of safety and connectivity features. Is there a similar smartphone hub for non-ebikes? I do like the idea of an integrated headlight with the unit as on the earlier COBI version of this product.
@mbk1251
@mbk1251 2 года назад
Hi if find a solution give us a heads up don't think boash off the shelf buyers will buy alternative mode kits ,I'd like to quick release all the ebike control on a big frame bike from the back wheel battery bank and builtin speed monitor and a smartphone hub holder all wireless but I could dreaming
@ronsandford6793
@ronsandford6793 3 года назад
Excellent walk through and many thanks. You have made comparisons with the Kiox display, but in your opinion how does the Smarthub compare with the Nyon display, especially the 2021 Nyon? Would you choose the Smarthub over the Nyon?
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 3 года назад
My preference is Nyon hands down
@jvmcgill8305
@jvmcgill8305 2 года назад
Can you tellme how to reset for a new trip...right now it's cumulative and I would like to see it reset for a new trip. Thanks, and great tutorial 😃
@michaelharbounnn
@michaelharbounnn 4 года назад
Such a great walkthrough! Question: For bikes that currently have a Rohloff setup would it be possible to interchange a Kiox display with a smarthub display in the future? (Once Rohloff integration becomes available)
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 4 года назад
It is retrofittable so if and when it becomes compatible with eShift you can do it.
@cec8122
@cec8122 4 года назад
Any ETA for when Rohloff integration might become available? Thanks...great video!
@TeddysVentures
@TeddysVentures 4 года назад
Great video! I was looking at a Trek Allant+ 8s with this system on it before non-essential closures. I think I prefer the Kiox personally. Also, my Note 10+ with the Otter Box case will not fit in the expandable cradle.
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 4 года назад
Thanks! The Kiox is a great option and you technically can swap the display to Kiox on that bike with the same wiring. For the Smartphonehub it doesn’t actually need to be in the cradle. We have a customer that actually is using an iPad for a display with it and they mounted on top of the whole display.
@TeddysVentures
@TeddysVentures 4 года назад
@@Propelbikes Thank you!
@jberkley17
@jberkley17 Год назад
I have an iPhone 13 and I have to remove it from the case in order to insert into the smart phone mount
@mauibuilder1239
@mauibuilder1239 4 года назад
It would be cool if the Smart Phone Hub display wirelessly charged your phone.
@juliemartin4899
@juliemartin4899 4 года назад
I can’t seem to figure out how to keep track of each ride. It doesn’t clear the miles after the ride has ended. I don’t know where to find the ride info that I get with Strava.
@58WP
@58WP 3 года назад
I have the same problem. No solutions yet.
@DemonLordTuomas666
@DemonLordTuomas666 4 года назад
how sturdy is the phone holder. i have iphone XR saw you have similar model. i ride a urban arrow fam. mainly urban area but there are quite the bumps when there are some hills going over 25khm (15 MPH) so does it support and hold the "heavier" type of phones. and i asume the regular base hub is all season proof ? im living in Finland where its cold and freezing in the winter. thank you for the walk-trough !
@EdKeen
@EdKeen 4 года назад
Tuomas, I am on day 2 of owning my Trek Allant+ 9.9s, and my iPhone 11 Pro came out of the holder on my ride today. Thankfully I had the phone plugged in via the charging cable, which prevented it from falling directly onto the street. I am not sure how I am going to fix this issue, but it seems like a major oversight. Didn't they test this out in real world conditions?
@EdKeen
@EdKeen 4 года назад
Just to follow-up on my own comment, in case anyone else is wondering. I had a few conversations with my Trek dealer and also with a representative at Trek corporate about the issue, and they said they would contact Bosch, but that went nowhere. So I bought a pack of Grifiti Band Joes X Cross Style 6" silicone rubber bands, and it worked like a charm, holding the phone in very snugly. You can find them on Amazon.
@MarcFessler
@MarcFessler 4 года назад
I’ve only used the phone holder for a 15 k ride home from work the dealer in London. To be honest the mount scared the hell out of me the whole way. I felt likemy phone would fall out or get nicked at a red light. I was planning to see what it would cost to switch back to the kiox head unit but instead decided to give a quadlock mount a try instead. Since it’s Bluetooth there’s no need to use their holder. I’m not sure yet but it looks like the the universal mount is removable to clean things up. The comments about the gps route finding are spot on too. Twice the maps tried to send me down pedestrian zones. I had to switch to google maps to get home safely.
@thetravlinmagicshow2385
@thetravlinmagicshow2385 4 года назад
@@EdKeen do you have a photo or how you secure your phone?
@pixbylorne1436
@pixbylorne1436 3 года назад
Quad lock mount solves that problem, it has worked great for us!
@jberkley17
@jberkley17 Год назад
Would be helpful to go into detail on each of the displays in fitness mode
@gillespellerin4442
@gillespellerin4442 4 года назад
Do you know if this is available for the R&M Superdelite GT Rohloff?
@ruirodtube
@ruirodtube 4 года назад
The SmartphoneHub is not compatible with the Rohloff because it doesn’t manage the e-shifting. That information came straight from R&M. I wanted the same setup - you’re a smart man! 😉
@gillespellerin4442
@gillespellerin4442 4 года назад
Ruirodtube Thanks for the reply
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 4 года назад
Love this. It might be possible in the future if Bosch rewrites the software but it’s not possible now.
@cindyengebose9082
@cindyengebose9082 4 года назад
This works well for a flat bar bike--but NOT on a drop bar bike. With this, I can't access my aero bars, had to put the thumb controller on the aero bar, not very ergonomic. I don't like the "dumbed down" aspect. This controller displays less info than the Purion which came with my Domane +. Sucks my phone battery dry. Having it uninstalled and going to a Garmin.
@RozicSanel
@RozicSanel Год назад
Are you having dual battery, cuz on mine Smartphone hub i dont have, like you 2 battery icon. 😅
@MOV1955
@MOV1955 4 года назад
Hi, got any idea how to recall the total milage by the app?
@otmeijers761
@otmeijers761 3 года назад
Open the app. click the black bottom part. Go to settings (in the upper corner left). The number you see there is your total milage.
@sageweb
@sageweb 3 года назад
@@otmeijers761 thank you. Not one walk through tells you this. Just spent an hour trying to find the odometer. Thank you so much.
@58WP
@58WP 3 года назад
@@otmeijers761 Thanks for this. However, I would much prefer to be able to see it on the "Dashboard" like the Shimano app does it.
@Qoss1
@Qoss1 4 года назад
is the grip strong enough for hiking? I mean, if you ride your bike offroad, will your smartphone stay where it shoud be in the display?
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 3 года назад
I wouldn’t recommend it as much for off-road riding. The Kiox, Intuvia or Purion would be better for that.
@Qoss1
@Qoss1 3 года назад
@@Propelbikes But you would recommend it for city roads? Because I read some comments from people that smashed their cellphone because it lost grip riding in a bump and fell out of the hub. This is a major deal breaker for me so I would like to be sure these type of accidents dont happen on flat roads.
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 3 года назад
The main challenge is when you use a phone with a big case the display can’t grip it well. There is also a COBI specific case you can use, but honestly I think I would just go with the Kiox or the new Nyon. The Kiox now has turn by turn, but the new Nyon is awesome and it will be upgradable.
@igorgetsin3646
@igorgetsin3646 4 года назад
The charging is not automatic. You have to scroll up on the odometer and tap the charge icon. At least that's how it works with Trek Allant 8+ S.
@JohnDavis-zg5se
@JohnDavis-zg5se 3 года назад
Where can i get one. Presume it will work on my Cube ebike with Bosch motor ?
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 3 года назад
They should be available with your Bosch dealer, but if you need we can also sell them, but it's helpful to work with a dealer for the install.
@58WP
@58WP 3 года назад
Amazon has them and the price is the same. Unless you find one on e-Bay. Bosch stuff is fair traded.
@filipnyssen2534
@filipnyssen2534 3 года назад
Great review. Is this smart phone hub available for R&M speed bikes ?
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 3 года назад
Only in the US at the moment as there is a regulation about always displaying the speed on speed pedelecs in Europe and the COBI software which wasn’t written by Bosch doesn’t account for this. Also - the Smartphone hub doesn’t work with the Rohloff E-14
@george40ish
@george40ish 3 года назад
I am trying to figure out if this app holds my historical data. For example...every mile biked in the past 6 months. If not, why not?
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 3 года назад
It holds it in the ebike connect app.
@pixbylorne1436
@pixbylorne1436 4 года назад
How do you install the Smartphone hub on a bike with the Purion Bosch Display?
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 3 года назад
You would need to re-wire the display to the motor
@pixbylorne1436
@pixbylorne1436 3 года назад
@@Propelbikes more details would be appreciated
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 3 года назад
It’s really a job for a shop, but I’ll see if we can do a video on this at some point. The work will vary per bike, but you need to replace the main wire which goes all the way down to the motor and it often runs through the frame.
@58WP
@58WP 3 года назад
@@pixbylorne1436 see my comments to Marinko and Johnson above
@58WP
@58WP 3 года назад
@@Propelbikes see my comments to Marinko and Johnson above.
@londer71
@londer71 2 года назад
Thanks for the walkthrough but why in the world does this not have wireless charging 😒
@mattyoonie
@mattyoonie 4 года назад
I have the Trek Allant+ 8S and I found that going over things like drainage ditches on streets at high speeds has the potential to knock the phone off of the bike. If mine wasn't plugged in to the USB cord, it would've went flying.
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 4 года назад
Good feedback. I hope they will make more phone cases available as I think they are more secure than the universal mount.
@thetravlinmagicshow2385
@thetravlinmagicshow2385 4 года назад
Do you use anything specific to secure your phone?
@rwolf369
@rwolf369 3 года назад
Matt Yoon rubber bands.
@jberkley17
@jberkley17 Год назад
Had exact same experience; and since I had to remove my phone from the case to fit it into the mount, the charging cable was the only thing that prevented the phone from crashing to the street and an expensive disaster
@Vardraq
@Vardraq 4 года назад
Does this not support Qi wireless charging?
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 4 года назад
This doesn’t charge wirelessly. But you can connect a wire to charge your phone.
@ryan6764
@ryan6764 3 года назад
great video... does the app allow the control of Deezer?
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 3 года назад
Deezer?
@ryan6764
@ryan6764 3 года назад
@@Propelbikes yeh the music service.. you can install it in "free" mode like spotify....
@garybarker3124
@garybarker3124 4 года назад
is this getting controlled by bluetooth ?
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 4 года назад
Yes it is
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 Год назад
In glorious monotone.
@telecomprofi
@telecomprofi 4 года назад
Make sure you strap your phone with some kind of rubber bands. I fallen twice -cost , me two screens cause internal plastic latches that hold two springs are- pretty lame and your phone would go flying 100% if universal hloder has same internals as original cobi.bike holder.
@thetravlinmagicshow2385
@thetravlinmagicshow2385 4 года назад
Do you use anything special?
@telecomprofi
@telecomprofi 4 года назад
@@thetravlinmagicshow2385 there is that rubbber contraption sold with GUB phone holders on aliexpress - it fixes smartphone by its corners.
@58WP
@58WP 3 года назад
Roger that!! My iPhone 11 standard in a fairly slim case barely fits and after a jolt at 8-10 mph the phone departed, hit the concrete and slithered about 10 ft. It survived, but how does one secure it better?
@thetravlinmagicshow2385
@thetravlinmagicshow2385 4 года назад
What is walk assist?
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 3 года назад
It will push the bike along at around 2-3 mph to assist with pushing up a hill while walking.
@bajkerKedi
@bajkerKedi 5 месяцев назад
as you can see how much he pressed in total
@mbk1251
@mbk1251 2 года назад
1000w motor on a Brompton please battery and speed controller allinone and this type wireless all traraine fat tyered
@Chobaca
@Chobaca 4 года назад
Don't ride a bike in an urban environment with headphones on!
@williamvan909
@williamvan909 4 года назад
not good gov. can track you where ever you go
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