What makes watching Wineking channel so fun is not only the expertise of MW Peter and Wineking, but also the chemistry between these two with sarcastic but sincere comments from Peter. Hi Jay, The master of wine content creator. Job well done. Love what you create as always. 👍
These videos are honestly sooooooo helpful! I have thought about buying most of those brands of wine in the recent past. I’m glad y’all do these videos! Thank you truly
Our local wine bar had one of these "abominations" for its Wine Club offerings in Sept 2018. It was called "Rack and Barrel Cabernet" out of Lodi. The only comment I had written on my Tasting Notes sheet was, "Hideous". I'm delighted to know that I'm in agreement with Peter and Jay.
Im ashamed to admit that Josh Cellars Cabernet Sauvignon aged in Bourbon Barrels is what originally got me into drinking reds... I swear I've improved my sense of taste! Love this theme! Great job :D
master peter. i love your sincereness to wine and even you are already master of wine but you never stop studying. im learning not only wine but the life from you. huge repect and love from Korea. thanks ;-) p.s. i love the way you laugh. hehehe~lol
Remember that bourbon barrels must be new when used for the brown stuff. So in practical terms these white oak barrels could be just 3 years old. And with the residue of the whiskey I could definitely see them having an outsized effort, although I imagine that they are still using essence.
Subscribed. I don't really know you folks, am not that much into wine reviewers or the wine press (I would rather drink and experience wine than talk and read about it). But after watching a couple of your videos I have to say that Peter is the coolest cat I have ever seen in my 42 years of drinking wine. He's the kind of guy who is so interesting and well spoken that people probably stop talking when he walks into the room because they don't want to miss anything he says. BTW, if I want bourbon I'll grab myself a bottle of Booker's Small batch (though admittedly I'm a single malt Scotch person when it comes to whisky). I don't want bourbon influencing the taste of my wine. Run away when you see bourbon barrel aged on the label of a bottle of wine!! No good can come from it.
I’ve never liked a wine aged in bourbon barrels, so I can imagine how these must have tasted. However, and I am sorry, Peter, but it was absolutely hilarious to watch you taste and comment on them!
Thank you SO MUCH for suffering through these horrible wines and exposing this marketing gimmick. Naturally, I was a little curious about the bourbon barrel aged.
Could you please tell Peter that the Mondavi Bourbon Barrel Cabernet in my country (Thailand) costs $45 and that a lot of people buy it? I would like to see his reaction hahaha
Love you guys !! 🤣🤣🤣 makes me wants to go hardcore on some wine training course . Your unpretentious love for wine totally rocks and speaks to me ! Thanks for doing this for us ! ❤️❤️
Actually a wine course can teach you how to express the wine in words better. The wine course is more to explore the description of wine, and recognition of wine type. A worthy investment of it.
Coming from having knowledge in whisk(e)y this was an interesting video. To me it makes sense that they probably added something to add oakiness to the wine since bourbon (or any spirit really) will suck a lot of the tannins and 'spice' out of the barrel. This makes bourbon casks great for scotch, since you can generally get more nuance out of the wood and the residual tannin is turning into vanillin which gives a vanilla flavour and can contribute to a caramel or butterscotch flavour in the whisky. However, when you use those same barrels for wines, I would appreciate that all that it's going to do to the wine is allow it to pick up residue left by the bourbon which is not conducive to producing a wine with subtle and nuanced flavours as it will likely fight with the grape (two completely different flavour profiles).
i sampled a bourbon barrel wine priced at $50 and i ran for the hills. it was awful and a crime against humanity. conversely, i really enjoy bourbon that has aged in wine barrels. namely port barrels. wonderful content, guys. keep up the good lord's work!!!
I loved the video. Peter your reactions are hilarious. One thing I did want to question is how the char on the barrel might actually be stripping the wine's nuance. Most wine barrels I know of are toasted on the inside to allow the oak to express certain nuances, however bourbon barrels are charred on the inside to create a surface of carbon. This char tends to aid in removing congeners from the bourbon as it ages as well as creating maillard reaction related flavours in the wood. However I do believe this layer of carbon would hinder the flavour of wine more than help, as the wine alcohol level is much lower than barrel strength bourbon (around 60 - 65% ABV)
Slight correction: wine makers don't get bourbon barrels for cheap because they've "been used for hundreds of years and the barrels are dead." The real reason is because in order for whiskey to be called bourbon, one of the requirements is that is has to be aged in new, unused oak barrels. So once a barrel is used for bourbon, it can never be used for bourbon again. There is a glut of used bourbon barrels that can be acquired cheaply, which is why you've seen a surge in bourbon barrel aged wine, beer, and other spirits (scotch, tequila, rum, etc.). On the flip side, NEW barrels are extremely expensive because of the demand bourbon distillers create on a relatively scarce resource (unused oak).
You guys just make a man want to join the table and have a good time. By the way, I would really love to see you guys trying some Portuguese Wines. I do believe that we have lovelly wines in Portugal, on budget, maybe not first quality bordeaux but still superb wines from south like Cartuxa, Cortes de Cima, Ermelinda de Freitas or from north Douro region like Casa Fereirinha and many others. Wish you both the best!
Wow! This is the first ever video I have seen from you guys. I am a craft beer reviewer on RU-vid (for 13 years). I have had a lot of Bourbon barrel aged beers and I enjoy them. I mainly checked it out because I have been trying to expand my interest in wine. I know little about it. So I had a 2020 1000 Stories Zinfandel aged in Bourbon Barrels simply because of my beer interests. You did not talk about that one but I could see some of the same characteristics in the one I had compared to what you talked about. This was an educational video for me. I just subscribed and I want to check out some of your reviews for "REAL" wine. Maybe I'll find something I really like.
Man you guys were BRUTAL! I've been drinking wine for close to 50 years. It is a wonderful beverage that improves its flavor with food, and make food better tasting too. My rule is that you drink what you enjoy. Next rule is that it is just as easy to spill a glass filled with a $100. a bottle wine as a $5. bottle of wine. Rule 3, price does not improve quality, although as a general idea, a more expensive wine will probably taste better than a cheaper one. That said, I have never tasted a bourbon aged wine in my life, nor do I intend to. I've had non bourbonized Ménage, and for a slice of pizza or a hamburger off the grill, it is a great wine. It's cheap, it goes down, it's not trying to prove anything to anyone. I've had several Layer Cakes in my time, and they universally disappoint. They tend to be those rare selections that actually improve when you put an ice cube in the glass. My in laws once presented me with a fine Apotek Cabernet. I think it was cabernet. It might have been a dry muscadine. It was pretty gross. No, I would not serve it with hamburgers or pizza. It is suitable for an underage teenager's drinking binge first weekend away in college. Now as for overoaked, when it comes to Chardonnay, I LOVE oak, you can't put enough oak in the bottle to make me happy, especially if it has undergone malolactic secondary fermentation. Sugar, you are spot on. I won't go near a Kendall Jackson chard because of the sugar/sweetness. Anyway, gentlemen, it was fun listening to you.
로버트 몬다비 버번 지난주에 마셨었는데 진짜 첫 잔에서는 꽉 막힌 듯한 답답한 맛과 인위적인 향기 그리고 시간이 지날수록 지나치게 퍼지는 알코올 느낌 때문에 아내와 혹평을 하며 마셨었는데.. 피터옹이 대노하는 모습에 뭔가 제 입이 잘 맞췄다는 게 뿌듯해지기도 하네용 ㅎㅎ
love this content, and Peter's South African accent is as strong as ever .. had to do some googling after I watched the first video .. was like wtf he is from SA ???
I understand where Peter's coming from and totally respect his value on 'pure' and elegant wines, but wondering if some of the wines (especially those that are heavily commercialized) should be treated as pop sodas... like choosing between coke or mountain dew. As such, measuring quality at this point these types of wine is a bit meaningless ... just matter of consumer preferences. (To Peter's point, these wines are intentionally pandering to the consumer palate) That said, this video is valuable to not to confuse commercialized wine to think they are 'good' or 'quality' wines because they appeal well to the consumers. Huge thanks to Peter and Jay for keeping us honest and straight on this.
@@account4402 The point was not suggesting to consume alcohol instead of soda. It was to point out that some wines that are made with very high commercial intent should be seen as if consumers are choosing soda . That is, a consumer does not gauge quality of coke vs. pepsi... rather they try to select ones that please their palate and preferences.
Love your tastings and I'm so glad it's you guys taking a hit for the team here. Re the 15.9% ABV brute. Adding a splash of water can dramatically improve wines like that particularly if they have good underlying concentration
Love you guys to funny but very educational! My palette is getting better because of your videos.Sorry you have to go through this as I admit I was in the mass consumer sector buying these wines not anymore. Thank You.
have no idea why i got recommended this video when I can't drink any alcohol. Also I have No Idea What they are talking about. BUT for some reason, I am having fun watching this
Okay. You have done it. You have saved this soul from a life of bad wine! I don't know how I can thank you, I have started on a new journey thanks to you! Apothic inferno was literally my favorite wine, it was my go to, I LOVED it! Then I saw this video. I was astonished, then I binged most of your other videos, rewatched many. Absorbed all I could, even went out and bought a proper wine glass! Then I went and bought my favorite abomination to sit down with it and actually experience, instead of just drinking it, to see if I could understand your perspective..... How did I think this was good? Just sitting there with a glass and experiencing it over about 30-45 minutes and wow, it was not good at all! At one point it straight up smelled like walking into a mechanic's shop, gasoline, hydraulic fluid, bathroom cleaner, I was astonished! This really is horrible, and I don't think I will be buying it again, and searching for much better options for the price. Maybe also I have learned in this very short time not to just sit and drink wine, but to experience it, and I owe that to you! THANK YOU!
Here in Belgium, at the end of the year, my favorite supermarket will be selling the 1000 stories Zinfandel (not the red label, but the black one) for 1+1 free. At 10€ a bottle, it's a bargain. Personally, I love this wine.
We don't only enjoy your knowledge your friendship too guys, keep going greetings from Argentina we also have very good wine here you should try some in your videos.
TRUTH, Truth, and truth.... OMG my shop carries some of this... would like you to try Buckshack Bourboun barrel aged. I roll my eyes but that one was OK.
I must admit I love the Zinfandel 1000 stories, which is a very good wine for me. At the end of the year in my country, Belgium, and in one of the big supermarkets here, it will be sold like every year: one bottle bought, one offered. At €10 a bottle, it's a bargain.
