I know it's a color-block sweater, but since we can usually only see the first two blocks I am choosing to believe you are wearing a Star Trek uniform.
Right ? like what best way of people not going to coachella if there’s no popular artists they want to see that would be more powerful than boycotting it from outside
some artists can't survive without the money though. With the rise of streaming and declining music sales, artists have to perform live if they want to eat.
lol boycotting coachella is like the laziest/most effortless form of activism i've ever heard. i'm in. (because i already had zero desire to go there anyway for a myriad of reasons)
if you had zero desire to go in the first place, I don't think your "in" on the boycotting. That really starts with people who had the desire to go and the celebrities that perform there, to, ya know, stop going..
The fact is rich people ( 1%) will do what ever benefits them. Many of these people give money to organizations that are corrupt but in order to keep their head above water, they’re willing to put their morals to the side. Boycotts rarely work, making a noise and loudly disagreeing with something does work. You can never escape immoral people with money but you have a choice what you will say about it.
@Angel Ramirez That's because you aren't understanding the difference between the marginal and effective tax rates. No one is saying tax ALL of their income at 50% or 90%. The proposal is more about taxing the rich at that higher rate on everything after they make after their first 10 million dollars. A marginal tax rate is the highest percentage you pay on a portion of your income. While an effective tax rate it the rate you actually pay.
With this guy I think it dose go along with his morals, if he is a conservative Christian then his morals would be conservative and Christian. Not everyone shares the same morals
the "all or nothing" mindset isn't very productive and I can't help but feel that it was put out there by the people at the top, lol. if you can't be perfect don't even try!!!!!!!!!!! (I'm being sarcastic). it all starts somewhere and coachella is NOT necessary for anyone to go to, period. it's not like buying groceries from walmart because there's nowhere else around you, people make a choice to go to coachella as an "extra" in their lives and it's so easy to simply..... not go. I agree that sometimes there are certain things people can't boycott for various reasons, but coachella ain't it.
the real question is why Anschutz owns Coachella? how can he justifies this "sinfest" to his Maker? 🤔 Conservative Christian businessmen make me laugh. looks like he turns off his Christian beliefs when it's time to make money 🤷🏾♀️
I’ve been trying to research this but it’s so time costuming to try to find information that’s factual. Thanks for making a video about this and bringing light to the situation, great vid!
Coachella is a festival that can actually be affected by a boycott. If influencers and celebrities stop going to Coachella and the hype behind it dies down, “regular people” will stop spending money to attend it too. If Haley Pham were to tell her followers to not go to Chick-Fil-A, chances are 1. No one would take her seriously, and 2. Even if they did, ‘every day people’ will still continue to go to a restaurant.
Ashley Cobb Coachella itself is a very inclusive environment. There’s a CEO at the top of a conglomerate that owns a company that owns a company that owns a company that owns Coachella. His company also owns electric forest which is one of the most inclusive, loving, magical music festivals out there. The man has A LOT of investments and it’s likely we all contribute to his pockets here and there. Depriving yourself of fun in an environment that is far removed from the dude who is the problem is just you depriving yourself of fun. a family owned company would be far more effected by a boycott on their brand than people boycotting the pocket change this man gets and gives to/from Coachella. Coachella is one very tiny puzzle piece in the way this man makes money.
Elio nobody is saying that we shouldn’t allow mothers to get abortions if their lives are at stake. Of course the mother should be able to decide. Those cases and rape make up less than 1% of all abortion cases. The fact that EVERY SINGLE pro choice person relies on this as an argument says that even you know that this is morally wrong. Where since is concerned, yes the fetus is indeed alive. It has a heart beat at 6 weeks in gestation and can feel pain around 20 weeks. It’s is a separate being from the mother. You don’t say a pregnant woman has 2 feet, 2 heads and so on. Not trying to be rude at all, I am simply informing.
@@livinglife5295 No, by derailing the conversation and saying "well yeah women have rights but I don't like the way you argue" you are being rude. Nobody is running to the abortion clinic excited to get an abortion. Nobody said abortions are fun and good. Women just want control of their bodies. Why do you feel the need to micromanage every uterus in the world? Unless you want to do a case by case investigation of every single woman on earth who needs an abortion and the pay for the childcare and college of each and every child who is born after an unwanted pregnancy, I suggest you sit down and shut up.
I find the concept of “boycotting coachella” kind of hilarious... going to coachella isn’t really an accessible option for most people so boycotting it is kinda just. living life as normal lol
I think if beyonce speaks out, she'll still be booked in other venue. The mega stars could speak out and would still be fine. That's the same thing as the all weinstein thing. Many celebrities could have spoken way sooner (meryl streep had already built an amazing career, yet she never spoke out against HW) but didn't....
i dont think consistency even matters like i mean if you KNOW both coachella and chik fil a are bad and you choose to boycott coachella but eat at chik fil a twice a week thats absurd but you cant track where your every dollar is gonna go. that said if you do know a few things you may otherwise support are supporting anti-lgbt rights and choose not to support them, it's both a really good start as well as a good way to get people talking about this exact conversation and questioning where they put their money. so yes, boycotting is effective even if its not directly financial
As a Christian myself, I'm not anti-LGBTQ, like y'all do what you wanna do, I'll do what I wanna do, and I believe what Greg Steir said is wrong, like you can't just say something like that, it's wrong. Like our most important commandments as Christians is to love God and then to love your neighbor as yourself (and by neighbor that means everyone, including LGBTQ people) like dang dude you managed to break one of the most important commandments, what u doin son???
@Sofía Jiménez Why do marriages, private engagements between people, have to do anything for society? What about heterosexual couples who are infertile or can't have babies otherwise? Useless?
Sofía Jiménez and you know what? That’s okay! We’re overpopulating the earth and there’s HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of kids stuck in Foster Care (America specifically) and all of these Gay couples are giving them homes. And that is just as important and as much of an important contribution to society as a het couple having kids
Sofía Jiménez I do understand your concern and it’s pretty worthwile. But there’s actually a great TEDX talk about this lesbian mom that was part of one of the first gay couples who adopted a child in the UK. She was asked by the adoption panelists how she’d take care of her adoptive son in terms of primarily dad things, like male puberty, learning how to play video games, ride bikes, how to shave etc. For the video games and sports part, she said she and her wife would do it themselves. For the male puberty and shaving, she said she’d get her male friends to pitch in and give advice that men truly need. Shaving, male puberty, any typically male issues- she’d get her close guy friends to act as uncles to her adoptive son, and be strong male role models in his life. A similar approach could be taken for a girl in a male gay couple. It’s the way single moms and dads have been managing for years, getting the community to pitch in. If a child has a loving family and strong role models of either or both genders to look upto or learn from, then the father or mother figure thing will be diminished.
Anything publicly owned is going to be WAY more expensive and inefficient/lower quality because the government won't have any skin in the the game. Whereas, privately owned things, someone puts up the money for that and has a vested interest it succeeding, and if people can get a higher quality or better serviced "thing" elsewhere than they'll leave and the consumer wins. And the owner of that "thing" will have to make improvements to woo people back. A little thing called competition happens. Otherwise it's a "take it or leave it" scenario when the feds get involved.
@@kodyeldridge5847 The notion that anything privately owned is always better and that competition is always better is just downright stupid. In Germany we have had this problem for a very long time, where because of this reason, stuff like trains were privatized which just made it worse for all the people who would prefer to use the train over cars.
Each time you would pronounce "anti", my mind was understanding "hentai" .... I'm not a native English speaker and I should spend less time on Internet
i agree that it’s hard to be aware of every single company that goes against your own values but since the coachella situation has been a thing for so long and i’m pretty sure everyone knows by now i will absolutely not support both the festival and the people attending/performing
I’m so blown away by how well thought out and well researched your videos are. I was pretty eloquent at 23, but I’m not sure I could have put together such thorough compilations the way you do.
OK now for my real comment: I grapple with these kinds of questions all the time as I try to figure out which brands I want to support and which ones I don't. Something I've fallen into is simply not mentioning the brands and people that I don't want to give publicity to. A lot of (but not all, certainly not the Coachella example) of these "controversial stances" that brands take are done in the name of marketing. Get people mad and get people talking. The best thing that I can do in these cases is to simply not give them what they want by talking about them.
Definitely boycott this! Solidarity with LGBTQIA+ comrades!! Oops.. should I not speak out? I need to consider where I can get booked once I'm a prominent electric kazoo artist.
Except he’s not doing anything wrong. You can choose to not go but just bc he’s Christian and conservative doesn’t equal anti lgbtq+. It’s really super nit-picky to dive into places that he donates to and then say “well because he donates to these places that SOME have those beliefs, he must as well”. Like I’m a democrat but if ur gonna have that kind of logic then u should really look into where a lot of the democrat senators get donations from, and where they donate to as well. Seems like your just going along with whatever people say when you don’t actually look into it.
OMG, definitely look at where democratic senators are getting their donations! We need to stop being complacent and stop tolerating rampant corruption!
All controversies aside, and maybe it sounds mean, but i think it’s a bit weird that an old ass man is the owner of a music festival that the majority of young people go to. I know he’s not the original founders of the festival, but he still owns the festival.
blanca nieve exactly. He must not have too much of a problem with it, considering he profits from it. We can’t control what he donates HIS money to....I mean seriously?
Lynn Burch there’s an amazing documentary called For The Bible Tells Me So. Highly recommend it for you❤️ Here, found the link: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yhSa1oAipHg.html
It really seems like sexuality is taking prevalence over how many good actions they have done but because they have done one major questionable action they are labelled as bad. It honestly terrifies me.
lol in europe almostball stores are closed on sundays.. :D it was so weird for me to hear someone finding that very religious, I never even thought about that ^^ I'm just glad the employees have one secure off-day :)
Some parts of Europe, yeah. Here in Paris you have a guaranteed day(s) off, but it’s not necessarily Sunday. In fact, often restaurants/cafes/bars are closed on Monday or Tuesday, since there’s a lot of money to be made on Sunday and less at the start of the workweek
Whenever ppl discuss about abolishing having everything closed on sundays, the arguments I saw are usually about having a day where families can spend time together, not religious.
In Switzerland we always have everything (besides restaurants and a few essential shops) closed, we don‘t think of it as anything religious, more to ensure that there is a fix day off for (almost) everyone so that the can spend their time with their family or just have an day off. But we kinda see a change the last few years.. more and more stores are also open on sundays to make more profit or to always be accessable (can be positive & negative🤷🏽♀️) hahah maybe that was too much into detail😅
Would love it if you talked about Bozos/Amazon or Urban Outfitters, the second has confused me for years. Also I love your podcast, but completely understand why you're nit posting as much anymore xx
I have a few considerations: 1. As vegans, we use our lifestyle to go up against massive industries--far larger than Anschutz--knowing full well that the issue of animal exploitation and environmental destruction is much greater than just not eating meat. But we do it anyway because every action matters. I'd say the same goes for boycotting companies such as Coachella and Chick-fil-a. 2. Being an ally means putting the needs of the communities you support above things such as personal profit. If these artists are profiting off of a festival that funds anti LGBTQ+ efforts because they're afraid that boycotting it will make them less desirable to other festivals, then they're not allies at all. They're just benefiting from the cultural currency of appearing "woke" while still contributing to the violence that these large corporations inflict on the communities they victimize. Instead they should promote and participate in festivals operated by POC, LGBTQ+ folx, women, etc. because being an ally is an action, not a statement.
In Australia we have Ability Fest which is a music festival that’s entirely accessible for people with disabilities. We need to see more stuff like this actively making the world a better place for everyone!
I can always trust Tiffany to share just the knowledge I was looking for. Thank you for this deep dive, so informative and you made it so easy to understand!
I think it also needs to be said that Haley also didnt go due to anxiety. We need to stop bashing people for what they dont do, and instead celebrate what they do.
Thanks for making a video on this Tiffany! I agree it's important to be an informed consumer but avoiding all of these larger corporations on a daily basis would be difficult. Boycotting Coachella is one approach but I wonder if making the LGBTQ+ presence known at Coachella would be more impactful.
i think making lgbt+ presence more known at coachella would be as useful as people burning their nike shoes after they've already bought them. at the end of the day, our money still goes into their pockets
i’m pretty sure haley pham didn’t boycott solely because the anti lgbtq+ connotations, but also because she didn’t like or enjoy the atmosphere of the dote group (ie the “dote girls”) which she would have been going with because she was only friends with some of them and they are very cliquey as you’ve mentioned in your videos on the dote group
I’m shocked you’re shocked he didn’t know. Most rich people put literally no thought into their donations. That’s on their financial advisors who donate money for tax deductibility.
Thank you for your commentary and thoughtful analysis. I love the effort and care you put into each of your videos. Your insight is much appreciated, sis! Keep it up!
I part of the reason people always say “boycott coachella” but not any of those other festivals is just bc so many people are so upset about the hype of coachella
im torn on the artists performing at coachella thing because as you said - he owns majority of concert venues in the us so all these artists and many others performing at those venues are also giving back to his bank account (or should i say vault?). some of these artists are lgbtq+ themselves or show support like ariana headlining this year has always been supportive, kevin abstract performed last year wearing a vest with the f slur on it and so many others at camp flog gnaw as well. and they're giving a good message, sure that i appreciate so much as a queer woman but what is a message in comparison to thousands of dollars? but also can we expect them to drop coachella since if they wanted to do that but not seem like hypocrites they'd have to stop performing at a lot of american venues? also its still possible that other venue owners or sponsors are antilgbt as well so. its a complex and messy issue. either way i've heard that glastonbury festival donates to a bunch of good causes and harry styles donated over a million dollars to charities during his tour so i guess there's still some good alternatives where you know your money will end up in a good place
I'm sorry if you're a conservative christian and you feel you're a good person who shouldn't be attacked by facts, but you can't escape your community's history of being against (and taking away) basic human rights of many groups of people.
Is there a word like “greenwashing” for these rich people making little donations to make themselves look open minded? - and boycotting is so hard especially when trying to avoid Coca Cola and Nestlé or Unilever - because they seem to own ALMOST EVERYTHING
Not that I'd go to Coachella, but I don't like the whole feel of: "well, if you boycott Coachella, you HAVE to boycot all of THESE *insert loads of things* aswell, or it's no use, and you might just do whatever. So why not go to Coachella, it doesn't matter anyways!" That's bullshit. Every time you spend money, you're voting. If enough ppl would stop going to Coachella, or would stop spending money on... well, basically anything, even if it's just ONE thing, the people on the receiving end WILL listen. ANY action you take to protect your morals counts. It's better to do one thing, boycott ONE thing, than not doing anything at all.
I REALLY appreciate these videos. I really like how you approach them with not just opinions but facts to back everything up. It’d be so cool to see this as a podcast in the future. ❤️
I feel like you need to make a distinction between being religious or conservative and actively being anti-LGBTQ+. Like, if the organization is directly involved in discrimination, then that would make sense, but if it's just a Christian or conservative organization that may include people with certain views, but they don't actually do anything to discriminate or speak out against LGBTQ+ people, then it doesn't really matter. Like, I'm not gonna boycott a charity for being religious if the services they provide have nothing to do with how they may or may not feel about the LGBTQ+ community
My old (Christian, private) school would hand out coupons once a month for Chik-fil-A, 10% of the profits made off the orders with the coupons would go back to the school. So, yes, from personal experience, Chik-fil-A does donate to anti LGBTQ+ causes.
“It’s not like Coachella itself is funding these organizations.” Except that it is because the money goes to the founder who is donating to these organizations who want to take away LGBTQ+ rights.
Personally, I think Chick Fil A is important to boycott because it's easier, culturally, to do so. Just go to another restaurant. With Coachella, it's more embedded in our society culturally and it's harder to speak out against (especially for the artists). Boycotting Coachella is a nice gesture, but like Tiffany said, AEG's reach is far and wide so it's difficult to avoid. Also, Chick Fil A has supported conversion camps and that's just horrendous.
While on one hand, we must acknowledge it is a very complex issue since these billionaires own several revenues and oversimplifying this would only lead to some empty shallow form of activism, we can’t use this as an excuse not to pursue a more ethical consumption. It’s true we may not be able to completely outline every single ownership and its ramifications, however it is VITAL we a) keep getting educated on the subject b) Take a stand when it’s clear a certain group’s actions are far from ethical If we know Nestle bought a repress in India so the citizens had to buy their mineral water, we don’t support them. If we know Victoria’s Secret has sweatshops in developing countries, we don’t buy their products Once you know the repercussions a certain purchase has, it’s not a choice but an unavoidable moral obligation to look for an alternative Provided that you do have a choice in terms of money and are not confined to a certain amount of products due to your economic situation
A man in his position who is far right conservative & aligns himself with these type of organizations is likely to be saying & doing a whole lot of things that are likely to be bad news for me & people I care about...I will definitely try to avoid lining his pockets ever, for any of his businesses...from any event or venue.
Just discovered your channel this week and I love your content! Its become a part of my morning routine to pick a video while I drink my coffee lol. I think a good topic for a future video (if it hasn't been done already, still working my way through your videos) that you lightly touched in this video, is how social media boycotts can actually backfire and give companies free advertisement. The Nike boycott is a great example of how companies can take public outrage and use it in their favor. Some people even believe it was curated after the Keurig boycott, seeing how all people did was smash their Keurig and gave the company free attention.
I am still watching while commenting this but it should also be noted that influencers and celebrities get massive paychecks from designers or brands for simply attending Coachella. I guess I wonder how much people would be willing to attend if they weren't being set up by brands and earning similar paychecks to some of the talent on the stage. But I do think you make a really fair point about it is up to the person to decide if it is worth giving their money to a giant corporation as a means to greatly support their favorite artists. All of the same people who shame Coachella for having a tie to anti-LGBTQ+ organizations are the same people who consume products from unethical corporations every single day of their lives without giving it a thought. There's no absolute winning so you might as well live your life with as much awareness as possible!
This is like vegans not supporting unilever because they also sell non vegan products. I am vegan and I am for voting with my euro for things I do want from those companies. Because if vegan stuff sells, they will make more of it.
Coachella is a first world luxury, and even then only open to those with the money to afford such a luxury. Not denying that moral support through finance should be considered, but it seems ridiculously trivial.
Shouldn't it be more of the responsibility of performing artists/celebrities to boycott coachella.As an artist, there should be a moral responsibility of researching the venues and events where you perform. I guess that would prevent artists from performing at any big venue.
My version of boycotting Coachella for being anti-LGBTQ is me not going to Chick-fil-A. As a general principle, I don't support any huge company if I can avoid it because you can't really know the personal views of the owners or other people in charge. I am under the poverty line, so I do have to buy things from big companies like Wal-Mart, but I still research the brands I buy.
thanks for this informative video! I’ve been wanting to find out more info on this topic. really appreciate the nuanced take on this and how you examined all sides. honestly its so difficult as someone whos trying to be an informed consumer trying to keep track of all the diff companys and owners and their views. trying to do my best without also getting overwhelmed haha
tiffanyferg Exactly! its like, where do you draw the line? also though, isnt this what the good place season 3 is addressing? 😅 maybe they can figure out for us how to choose actions that dont send us to the ‘bad place’ (i.e. how to make ethical choices, all the way down the line)
